Comments on: BSA Monitoring BitTorrent Traffic http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sun, 22 Nov 2009 15:19:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: RockstaR http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-524392 RockstaR Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:06:17 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-524392 Once upon a time the internet WAS more or less "private", or at least it was unregulated by anyone (supposedly). But that was several years ago, they started policing the net for perv's, then for pharmacia's selling scripts w/o a prescription, and they just couldn't stop there (power-hungry nazi's as usual) so before we even knew what was going on they're watching everything we do online! Thank you Mr. Bush- I'm sure this will stop the terrorists. Hey- but what about all the non-terrorists that want their privacy??? "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin Once upon a time the internet WAS more or less "private", or at least it was unregulated by anyone (supposedly). But that was several years ago, they started policing the net for perv's, then for pharmacia's selling scripts w/o a prescription, and they just couldn't stop there (power-hungry nazi's as usual) so before we even knew what was going on they're watching everything we do online! Thank you Mr. Bush- I'm sure this will stop the terrorists. Hey- but what about all the non-terrorists that want their privacy???

"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." — Benjamin Franklin

]]> By: beast http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-275485 beast Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:00:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-275485 All the traffic on the Internet is captured, stored, indexed and data-mined for finding global bad guys. And this is by the several governments worldwide, so the idea that there is some level of privacy on the net is non-existent. Play nice or BIG Brother / BIG Business will rain on your parade, BIG time! All the traffic on the Internet is captured, stored, indexed and data-mined for finding global bad guys. And this is by the several governments worldwide, so the idea that there is some level of privacy on the net is non-existent. Play nice or BIG Brother / BIG Business will rain on your parade, BIG time!

]]> By: heddy http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-274065 heddy Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:19:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-274065 Encryption won't help in the slightest. Encryption won’t help in the slightest.

]]> By: onizuka http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-99293 onizuka Fri, 11 May 2007 19:56:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-99293 make that another one who got one from bethere broadband....im so glad im not the only one aswel.... Are they gonna take us to prison??? make that another one who got one from bethere broadband….im so glad im not the only one aswel….

Are they gonna take us to prison???

]]> By: John http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-98285 John Wed, 09 May 2007 12:32:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-98285 I got one dated yesterday from Bethere. How do we encrypt so they cannot trace us? I got one dated yesterday from Bethere.

How do we encrypt so they cannot trace us?

]]> By: methree http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-97165 methree Sun, 06 May 2007 20:01:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-97165 I just got an email from BeThere too. I was spooked by how they referred to an exact date, time and file. Sooo glad I'm not the only one... I just got an email from BeThere too. I was spooked by how they referred to an exact date, time and file. Sooo glad I’m not the only one…

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]]> By: Joe http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-53677 Joe Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:23:33 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-53677 I got one from Freedom2Surf. I tried to reply to it, but it bounced back. How serious are these letters? I got one from Freedom2Surf. I tried to reply to it, but it bounced back. How serious are these letters?

]]> By: John http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-47749 John Sat, 10 Feb 2007 11:22:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-47749 [quote comment="43692"]I don't think this is limited to just Pipex. Back in December I received an email with very similar wording to the one mentioned. My ISP is BeThere...[/quote] Ed, I'd be interested to know what action did BeThere take? [quote comment="43692"]I don’t think this is limited to just Pipex.

Back in December I received an email with very similar wording to the one mentioned.

My ISP is BeThere…[/quote]

Ed, I’d be interested to know what action did BeThere take?

]]> By: td http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-45814 td Sun, 04 Feb 2007 15:35:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-45814 Yep thank god for encryption. But is that all that is needed... will the IPs of the BSA need to be blocked by PG2 or Protowall or something?.. Yep thank god for encryption. But is that all that is needed… will the IPs of the BSA need to be blocked by PG2 or Protowall or something?..

]]> By: metoo http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-44140 metoo Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:51:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-44140 I also had a mail like that from BeThere... I also had a mail like that from BeThere…

]]> By: Greyriver http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43949 Greyriver Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:00:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43949 As kdsde says they just begin downloading an illegal torrent and see which IPs they are downloading it from. They don't connect to you unless you are sharing that item. It's not illegal for them to download it since they have the permission of the copyright holder. Some people download a list of IPs they'd rather not connect to. If this included the companies doing the looking they would be safe. However the companies know about that snf they change their own IPs at intervals. I'd like to know if a log they made showing an IP number counts as any kind of proof anyway. After all they could make them up if they wanted. As kdsde says they just begin downloading an illegal torrent and see which IPs they are downloading it from. They don’t connect to you unless you are sharing that item.

It’s not illegal for them to download it since they have the permission of the copyright holder.

Some people download a list of IPs they’d rather not connect to. If this included the companies doing the looking they would be safe. However the companies know about that snf they change their own IPs at intervals.

I’d like to know if a log they made showing an IP number counts as any kind of proof anyway. After all they could make them up if they wanted.

]]> By: Ed http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43692 Ed Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:56:13 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43692 I don't think this is limited to just Pipex. Back in December I received an email with very similar wording to the one mentioned. My ISP is BeThere... I don’t think this is limited to just Pipex.

Back in December I received an email with very similar wording to the one mentioned.

My ISP is BeThere…

]]> By: Matt http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43648 Matt Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:49:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43648 Thats scary cause I'm on Pipex in the UK :S Thats scary cause I’m on Pipex in the UK :S

]]> By: kdsde http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43647 kdsde Sun, 28 Jan 2007 12:47:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43647 The BSA is not watching your line! They just ask MediaSentry and Co. to hop on the same torrents you do. That way they get the information about your IP they need. And no, using a bloglist does NOT protect you from being seen downloading anything "illegal". The BSA is not watching your line!
They just ask MediaSentry and Co. to hop on the same torrents you do. That way they get the information about your IP they need.

And no, using a bloglist does NOT protect you from being seen downloading anything “illegal”.

]]> By: Hannes http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43616 Hannes Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:54:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43616 $200.000 for a guilty conscience for the rest of the life? No thanks, life is not about money. $200.000 for a guilty conscience for the rest of the life? No thanks, life is not about money.

]]> By: corey http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43615 corey Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:50:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43615 ok ok but when was a law passed that allowed people to look at *my* internet logs?!?! there supposed to be private are they not??? ok ok but when was a law passed that allowed people to look at *my* internet logs?!?! there supposed to be private are they not???

]]> By: Bob http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43612 Bob Sun, 28 Jan 2007 10:33:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43612 "not everything you do is watched by a private lobby organisation like the BSA, according to my grandchild. They just watch you when you download something they are interested in" Have you thought that through properly? How do they know when you're downloading the stuff they're interested in unless they're watching all the time? It's like saying a security guard only watches an office when he knows it's being burgled. How does he know it's being burgled unless it's being watched for a burgalar to come along at any time? Just think it through for a moment. Anyway, something about this story doesn't quite ring true to me. Either this organisation has access to the black boxes at LINX (is that really likely?) or they're getting access to some server logs through raids or some other method of acquiring them, and are trying to bluster that they have the all seeing eye hoping it will scare people. As far as I know, the usual way the police find out about porn is through server logs found in raids or by working closely with an ISP so that they go through their own logs to see who has connected to specific sites or servers. Pipex don't seem to have been involved with this, they're just on the recieving end, so it's either one of the first two methods or another ISP (possibly abroad) has given information from their logs that shows Pipex IP addresses exchanging data with their own customers. “not everything you do is watched by a private lobby organisation like the BSA, according to my grandchild. They just watch you when you download something they are interested in”

Have you thought that through properly? How do they know when you’re downloading the stuff they’re interested in unless they’re watching all the time?

It’s like saying a security guard only watches an office when he knows it’s being burgled. How does he know it’s being burgled unless it’s being watched for a burgalar to come along at any time? Just think it through for a moment.

Anyway, something about this story doesn’t quite ring true to me. Either this organisation has access to the black boxes at LINX (is that really likely?) or they’re getting access to some server logs through raids or some other method of acquiring them, and are trying to bluster that they have the all seeing eye hoping it will scare people.

As far as I know, the usual way the police find out about porn is through server logs found in raids or by working closely with an ISP so that they go through their own logs to see who has connected to specific sites or servers. Pipex don’t seem to have been involved with this, they’re just on the recieving end, so it’s either one of the first two methods or another ISP (possibly abroad) has given information from their logs that shows Pipex IP addresses exchanging data with their own customers.

]]> By: Scharfschutze http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43607 Scharfschutze Sun, 28 Jan 2007 09:15:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43607 That was one weird comment. Wow, just wow. That was one weird comment. Wow, just wow.

]]> By: old grandma http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43587 old grandma Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:40:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/bsa-monitoring-bittorrent-traffic/#comment-43587 corey, not everything you do is watched by a private lobby organisation like the BSA, according to my grandchild. They just watch you when you download something they are interested in Liek those perverts watching childporn. Charly, my lovely grandson, explained to me that I can be sure that my online bingo play on weekends will not be watched by them. But he warned me not to share my stitching patterns (*) and crosscheck my christmas cookyrecipe before giving the cookies to the kids next door. I guess it is no violation of "your" privacy if they just record the data of specific transactions. The question is, if an IP address and some allegations is evidence enough that YOU as a specific person did something that makes it reasonable to hand over your private data to those private entities. An IP address is NOT a specific person, if you are a grandchild, lets have your old granny sign the paperwork for the ISP account! My Charly asked me to do him this favour and now we are both happy. Sicen an IP is not a person, he can continue to care for all the important things in the world and have fun with his modern computerstuff while I get some action in my old days by reading strange letters from strange companies like adosoft and microbe. (shit, my eys don't get better, can't they use a bigger font? It's hard do see all that...) Boy, I'm so old, I don't understand most of the words in those strange letters. * http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2006/9/11/82110/2869 corey, not everything you do is watched by a private lobby organisation like the BSA, according to my grandchild.

They just watch you when you download something they are interested in Liek those perverts watching childporn.

Charly, my lovely grandson, explained to me that I can be sure that my online bingo play on weekends will not be watched by them. But he warned me not to share my stitching patterns (*) and crosscheck my christmas cookyrecipe before giving the cookies to the kids next door.

I guess it is no violation of “your” privacy if they just record the data of specific transactions.
The question is, if an IP address and some allegations is evidence enough that YOU as a specific person did something that makes it reasonable to hand over your private data to those private entities.

An IP address is NOT a specific person, if you are a grandchild, lets have your old granny sign the paperwork for the ISP account! My Charly asked me to do him this favour and now we are both happy.
Sicen an IP is not a person, he can continue to care for all the important things in the world and have fun with his modern computerstuff while I get some action in my old days by reading strange letters from strange companies like adosoft and microbe. (shit, my eys don’t get better, can’t they use a bigger font? It’s hard do see all that…)

Boy, I’m so old, I don’t understand most of the words in those strange letters.

* http://www.gripe2ed.com/scoop/story/2006/9/11/82110/2869

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