Comments on: Buying The DVD: Unhelpful And Unethical http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:21:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: nightshift http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-324115 nightshift Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:02:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-324115 this is a really good article. this is a really good article.

]]> By: BrainaicX http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-323979 BrainaicX Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:24:33 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-323979 If the moguls put as much effort into finding the big paying advertisering partners and working with BT instead of against it, they could harness more profit from the audience that never has and prob never will purchase HBO. Nobody wants the low res clip crap that media companies seem to think is internet distribution. When it is clearly an attempt to keep people watching TV from a TV provider. Embrace BT or be left behind and forgot!!! If the moguls put as much effort into finding the big paying advertisering partners and working with BT instead of against it, they could harness more profit from the audience that never has and prob never will purchase HBO.

Nobody wants the low res clip crap that media companies seem to think is internet distribution. When it is clearly an attempt to keep people watching TV from a TV provider.

Embrace BT or be left behind and forgot!!!

]]> By: backus http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-305055 backus Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:42:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-305055 Which reminds me, because of your comment I'm off to download another 50 or 60 album discography. The DVD should make a nice gift for somebody, and I'll have to sell a few copies as well to recoup losses and make a buck. When you start selling things like that at a decent price I may consider it, but like that would ever happen,hahaaa Which reminds me, because of your comment I’m off to download another 50 or 60 album discography. The DVD should make a nice gift for somebody, and I’ll have to sell a few copies as well to recoup losses and make a buck. When you start selling things like that at a decent price I may consider it, but like that would ever happen,hahaaa

]]> By: Backus http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-305049 Backus Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:36:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-305049 [quote comment="295468"]What of bunch of nonsense. The reality is that no matter how easy the entertainment companies made it for us (no DRM, cross-compatibility, etc), as long as it isn't free, most people will get it illegally from TPB etc. It's because we're thieves, and all this self-righteous rambling is just smoke and mirrors.[/quote] You sound like you have a sudden case of self-guilt. Read "RIAA confederate/crony/thug/obsessive" If you're really that brainwashed by propaganda you can believe it, but not the rest of us. I wouldn't buy them no matter how cheap they were, because YOU'RE all thieves and i don't support criminal orgs. I'd rather pay the pirates who are non-profit. [quote comment="295468"]What of bunch of nonsense. The reality is that no matter how easy the entertainment companies made it for us (no DRM, cross-compatibility, etc), as long as it isn’t free, most people will get it illegally from TPB etc. It’s because we’re thieves, and all this self-righteous rambling is just smoke and mirrors.[/quote]

You sound like you have a sudden case of self-guilt. Read “RIAA confederate/crony/thug/obsessive”

If you’re really that brainwashed by propaganda you can believe it, but not the rest of us.

I wouldn’t buy them no matter how cheap they were, because YOU’RE all thieves and i don’t support criminal orgs. I’d rather pay the pirates who are non-profit.

]]> By: goobimama http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-302219 goobimama Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:40:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-302219 I would love to pay the creators of the stuff I download. Just don't want to end up paying for packaging, shipping, advertising, and all that whatnot. I would love to pay the creators of the stuff I download. Just don’t want to end up paying for packaging, shipping, advertising, and all that whatnot.

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]]> By: AIMEEbaby http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-298199 AIMEEbaby Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:47:36 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-298199 We are very excited to announce that the Global job search engine has been released! <a href="http://www.perfectsea.com" rel="nofollow">perfectsea.com</a>is the first website that includes all jobs related to a lot of countries that speak English. There are over 8 countries and/or areas jobs on PerfectSea.com. It searches over thousands job sites and provide millions jobs to our customers. We use total automatic Robot technology to collect tons information from website, do analysis. So perfectsea.com provides the unique job search environment to our customers, let them have a place to search all jobs in the world. This is one site solution. Let people just come to one website and search the job, whatever where the job is, what kind of job the user wants. Job seeker can get great benefits from it. People don't need to go to different website for looking for job. This is one stop solution. Perfectsea.com will change the way people looking for the job. We are very excited to announce that the Global job search engine has been released!
perfectsea.comis the first website that includes all jobs related to a lot of countries that speak English.
There are over 8 countries and/or areas jobs on PerfectSea.com. It searches over thousands job sites and provide millions jobs to our customers.
We use total automatic Robot technology to collect tons information from website, do analysis. So perfectsea.com provides the unique job search environment to our customers, let
them have a place to search all jobs in the world. This is one site solution.
Let people just come to one website and search the job, whatever where the job is, what kind of job the user wants.
Job seeker can get great benefits from it. People don’t need to go to different website for looking for job. This is one stop solution.
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]]> By: prodigydancer http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-298142 prodigydancer Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:58:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-298142 [quote comment="297657"]The grammar, demeanor, and language of this column [/quote] Who cares about grammar in the news? As for the language - it's actually good that for once here is an author who doesn't use slang in every other line. Remember that TF is an international resource and not people are native English speakers. (For example I'm not.) [quote comment="297657"]make it harder to be taken seriously by the bureaucrats you so hope to convince[/quote] Convince? Newsflash for you: we're in war with them. Besides are really dumb enough to seriously think that *any* news column could convince bureaucrats of anything? This makes me laugh. Stop watching TV, pal, it has turned your brain into a mess. In this world it takes either cash or guns to be convincing. And our opponents got all the money, which kinda narrows it down. [quote comment="297657"]The grammar, demeanor, and language of this column [/quote]
Who cares about grammar in the news? As for the language – it’s actually good that for once here is an author who doesn’t use slang in every other line. Remember that TF is an international resource and not people are native English speakers. (For example I’m not.)

[quote comment="297657"]make it harder to be taken seriously by the bureaucrats you so hope to convince[/quote]
Convince? Newsflash for you: we’re in war with them.

Besides are really dumb enough to seriously think that *any* news column could convince bureaucrats of anything? This makes me laugh. Stop watching TV, pal, it has turned your brain into a mess.

In this world it takes either cash or guns to be convincing. And our opponents got all the money, which kinda narrows it down.

]]> By: Gred http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-297657 Gred Mon, 25 Feb 2008 11:07:46 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-297657 Who wrote this? Jamie King? While I agree with the tone and message, it was written horribly. Keep directing 'documentaries,' don't write columns, sir. The grammar, demeanor, and language of this column is sure to poison Torrent Freak's reputation as a decent source of news. More articles will ruin the esteem of this site and make it harder to be taken seriously by the bureaucrats you so hope to convince. Who wrote this? Jamie King? While I agree with the tone and message, it was written horribly. Keep directing ‘documentaries,’ don’t write columns, sir. The grammar, demeanor, and language of this column is sure to poison Torrent Freak’s reputation as a decent source of news.

More articles will ruin the esteem of this site and make it harder to be taken seriously by the bureaucrats you so hope to convince.

]]> By: Kyle Brady: A Blog » Blog Archive » Dr. Linksalot von Koeppenhausen http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-297645 Kyle Brady: A Blog » Blog Archive » Dr. Linksalot von Koeppenhausen Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:39:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-297645 [...] “Buying the DVD” [...] [...] “Buying the DVD” [...]

]]> By: prodigydancer http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-297389 prodigydancer Mon, 25 Feb 2008 01:10:57 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-297389 [quote comment="296112"]"Blargh blargh TV is shit WATCH THE WIRE WATCH THE WIRE WATCH THE WIRE Blargh blargh DVDs are a ripoff." Gee, that was an insightful article! Way to go, torrentfreak![/quote] [quote comment="296113"]I think torrentfreak needs to un-welcome Jamie King until he gets his head out of his arse and writes some open-minded articles that make a bit of sense.[/quote] If you don't like the article, then what are you doing here? Go watch your cable and don't forget to buy some DVDs after that. The way I see it, there are some people who enjoy being fucked in the ass by media industry so much that they're paying for it on a regular basis. And you're one of them. [quote comment="296112"]“Blargh blargh TV is shit

WATCH THE WIRE WATCH THE WIRE WATCH THE WIRE

Blargh blargh DVDs are a ripoff.”

Gee, that was an insightful article! Way to go, torrentfreak![/quote]
[quote comment="296113"]I think torrentfreak needs to un-welcome Jamie King until he gets his head out of his arse and writes some open-minded articles that make a bit of sense.[/quote]

If you don’t like the article, then what are you doing here? Go watch your cable and don’t forget to buy some DVDs after that.

The way I see it, there are some people who enjoy being fucked in the ass by media industry so much that they’re paying for it on a regular basis. And you’re one of them.

]]> By: Troc Ster http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296716 Troc Ster Sun, 24 Feb 2008 03:04:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296716 damn, I was going to comment on your perceptive and accurate description of p2p vs tv/dvd. Then I realised that you were involved with 'Steal this film N' : were N is a real number. Steal this film 2 is superb. You are so right, ads on tv are insidious, pernicious and weapons grade. Even the BBC goes ott with their in house promo-rubbish. p2p just makes for a better quality of life. I love the wire, like lost, and think 'the shield' is great. All other TV i left behind since I lost interest in voyager and got affected by the incessant attempts at manipulating my wants and opinions. Fucking marketing/branding/pr publicity assholes spoilt it for me and I recon are fubar the world with their twisted aims and means. p2p's renumeration problem will be partly solved when ppl realize the potential of the internet. Once they see the possibilities of unlimited and customized access I'm sure they will be happy to pay for it in a new way too. Like most of the developed world does for health care, transport infrastructure, education and defense; to name but a few. The problem then becomes (re)distirbution, but that is what democracies are for no ? damn, I was going to comment on your perceptive and accurate description of p2p vs tv/dvd. Then I realised that you were involved with ‘Steal this film N’ : were N is a real number. Steal this film 2 is superb.

You are so right, ads on tv are insidious, pernicious and weapons grade. Even the BBC goes ott with their in house promo-rubbish. p2p just makes for a better quality of life.

I love the wire, like lost, and think ‘the shield’ is great. All other TV i left behind since I lost interest in voyager and got affected by the incessant attempts at manipulating my wants and opinions. Fucking marketing/branding/pr publicity assholes spoilt it for me and I recon are fubar the world with their twisted aims and means.

p2p’s renumeration problem will be partly solved when ppl realize the potential of the internet. Once they see the possibilities of unlimited and customized access I’m sure they will be happy to pay for it in a new way too. Like most of the developed world does for health care, transport infrastructure, education and defense; to name but a few. The problem then becomes (re)distirbution, but that is what democracies are for no ?

]]> By: Glenn http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296651 Glenn Sun, 24 Feb 2008 00:26:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296651 I strongly object to the bozo who referred to 'Top Gear' as quality output from the BBC. For those who don't watch programme, it is literally a bunch of public schoolboy types being paid a million pounds ($2m) a year of public money a year to drive new cars around. Thats it! They (the BBC) then have the balls to sell this programme on DVD and people buy it! When I move out of my current apartment I will leave the tv here and will never even think about buying a new one! I've spent the last year downloading every decent show ever made and have enough to last me a lifetime - thanks Bit Torrent. PEACE! I strongly object to the bozo who referred to ‘Top Gear’ as quality output from the BBC.

For those who don’t watch programme, it is literally a bunch of public schoolboy types being paid a million pounds ($2m) a year of public money a year to drive new cars around. Thats it!

They (the BBC) then have the balls to sell this programme on DVD and people buy it!

When I move out of my current apartment I will leave the tv here and will never even think about buying a new one! I’ve spent the last year downloading every decent show ever made and have enough to last me a lifetime – thanks Bit Torrent.

PEACE!

]]> By: KingStone http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296483 KingStone Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:55:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296483 I don't know if my words will get the rings about this article, it was a good read and I enjoyed it, for me in Kuwait it was harded to get showes like Deadwood and Heroes, most of us learned about a lot of shows by downloading via P2P or reading classic articles like these around the internet or some blogs of fans who devoted a full website for a show from here to there, we've seen how a show like Jericho got saved because some fans couldn't stop supporting it and sent a big amount of Peanuts to ABC to keep it up and coming. in anyhow talking too much doesn't help specialy with my poor english, still I'd love to know about hit shows in the air nowadays so I could follow up about it all, because its never will be knowen if not for those who these big suits tring to hunt and stop! its P2P that made most shows so famous specialy Prison Break which is here is followed by a lot even they don't watch that much of tv. thanks and good luck in next articles.. I don’t know if my words will get the rings about this article, it was a good read and I enjoyed it, for me in Kuwait it was harded to get showes like Deadwood and Heroes, most of us learned about a lot of shows by downloading via P2P or reading classic articles like these around the internet or some blogs of fans who devoted a full website for a show from here to there, we’ve seen how a show like Jericho got saved because some fans couldn’t stop supporting it and sent a big amount of Peanuts to ABC to keep it up and coming.

in anyhow talking too much doesn’t help specialy with my poor english, still I’d love to know about hit shows in the air nowadays so I could follow up about it all, because its never will be knowen if not for those who these big suits tring to hunt and stop! its P2P that made most shows so famous specialy Prison Break which is here is followed by a lot even they don’t watch that much of tv.

thanks and good luck in next articles..

]]> By: h33t.com http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296470 h33t.com Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:27:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296470 welcome J.J. King, great article get your feet under the desk now tackle some of the real issues welcome J.J. King, great article

get your feet under the desk

now tackle some of the real issues

]]> By: Jamison http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296403 Jamison Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:53:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296403 I don't know how it works in the UK, but "The Wire" specifically is distributed by HBO, which is a channel you pay to see. Every episode of The Wire is aired free of adverts, which is why I always felt HBO was worth the extra ten bucks. Same goes for Weeds and Californication (Showtime, the Pepsi of Premium TV). Besides DVD sales (and itunes, i guess), this is the ONLY way those creators make any money. It's why HBO and Showtime can only support a couple of good shows at a time. I agree that the networks are circling the bowl worse than ever, but you're not doing any favors to the guys who work on these shows by downloading them. Of course it's all relative. I don’t know how it works in the UK, but “The Wire” specifically is distributed by HBO, which is a channel you pay to see. Every episode of The Wire is aired free of adverts, which is why I always felt HBO was worth the extra ten bucks. Same goes for Weeds and Californication (Showtime, the Pepsi of Premium TV). Besides DVD sales (and itunes, i guess), this is the ONLY way those creators make any money. It’s why HBO and Showtime can only support a couple of good shows at a time. I agree that the networks are circling the bowl worse than ever, but you’re not doing any favors to the guys who work on these shows by downloading them. Of course it’s all relative.

]]> By: -the Queef- http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296333 -the Queef- Sat, 23 Feb 2008 12:30:17 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296333 I agree,but if you think that people in the UK or US have crap on their tv think agian.Overhere in Holland we are "proud" to have the worst tv system in the world. There is a public system which brings you nothing but "talking heads" and religion.It's a total waste of time, money and effort.Watching paint dry is more entertaining. There are also the commercial channels and they are the real stinkers.They really don't give a shit what they're putting on,reallity-tv like idols,dancing stars,cooking with stars,walking the dog with stars,and so on,movies like beverely-hills cop prt. 1(was on more then 15 times, and cops chasing crooks. If you want so see if tv makes people dumb, take a look at my country. In total in an average week with ten channels there is no more then one hour a week watchable televion(the simpsons). If anyone wanders why I got more than 400 TB (downstream) traffic a year just read the above. cheers, -the Queef- I agree,but if you think that people in the UK or US have crap on their tv think agian.Overhere in Holland we are “proud” to have the worst tv system in the world.
There is a public system which brings you nothing but “talking heads” and religion.It’s a total waste of time, money and effort.Watching paint dry is more entertaining. There are also the commercial channels and they are the real stinkers.They really don’t give a shit what they’re putting on,reallity-tv like idols,dancing stars,cooking with stars,walking the dog with stars,and so on,movies
like beverely-hills cop prt. 1(was on more then 15 times, and cops chasing crooks.
If you want so see if tv makes people dumb, take a look at my country.
In total in an average week with ten channels there is no more then one hour a week watchable televion(the simpsons).

If anyone wanders why I got more than 400 TB (downstream) traffic a year just read the above.

cheers,

-the Queef-

]]> By: cc http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296134 cc Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:40:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296134 horrible written article . too much emotional than fact . horrible written article . too much emotional than fact .

]]> By: Halitherses http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296129 Halitherses Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:24:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296129 Most TV and DVD's are absolutely worthless. I watched "A Beautiful mind" yesterday. Which was "inspired by the events" of John Nash's life. According to wikipedia there are quite a few glaring historical inaccuracies. Now if they are going to misrepresent the the historical events in John Nash's life so much then what right have the got to use this man's name in the movie? Hollywood should stop trying to rewrite history and manipulate peoples conception of reality. Most TV and DVD’s are absolutely worthless. I watched “A Beautiful mind” yesterday. Which was “inspired by the events” of John Nash’s life. According to wikipedia there are quite a few glaring historical inaccuracies. Now if they are going to misrepresent the the historical events in John Nash’s life so much then what right have the got to use this man’s name in the movie?

Hollywood should stop trying to rewrite history and manipulate peoples conception of reality.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296113 Anonymous Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:56:17 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296113 I think torrentfreak needs to un-welcome Jamie King until he gets his head out of his arse and writes some open-minded articles that make a bit of sense. I think torrentfreak needs to un-welcome Jamie King until he gets his head out of his arse and writes some open-minded articles that make a bit of sense.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296112 Anonymous Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:52:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296112 "Blargh blargh TV is shit WATCH THE WIRE WATCH THE WIRE WATCH THE WIRE Blargh blargh DVDs are a ripoff." Gee, that was an insightful article! Way to go, torrentfreak! “Blargh blargh TV is shit

WATCH THE WIRE WATCH THE WIRE WATCH THE WIRE

Blargh blargh DVDs are a ripoff.”

Gee, that was an insightful article! Way to go, torrentfreak!

]]> By: mike http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296090 mike Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:52:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296090 why did you remind me of firefly?! I'm sad all over again! why did you remind me of firefly?! I’m sad all over again!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296020 Anonymous Fri, 22 Feb 2008 22:53:45 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-296020 I gave up on television when X-Files went off the air. I stick to movies now. I gave up on television when X-Files went off the air. I stick to movies now.

]]> By: Crandom http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295893 Crandom Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:00:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295893 we need some dvds.... or where would we get the material for DVDRips? we need some dvds…. or where would we get the material for DVDRips?

]]> By: emile http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295882 emile Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:37:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295882 This article should have been entitled "Ode to The Wire". And worse, it misleads the reader by purporting to be about technology that it never fully discusses or explains. JJ, please take a course in journalism and stop emulating the worst sort of editorializing writers the New York Times has to offer. This article should have been entitled “Ode to The Wire”. And worse, it misleads the reader by purporting to be about technology that it never fully discusses or explains.

JJ, please take a course in journalism and stop emulating the worst sort of editorializing writers the New York Times has to offer.

]]> By: NickIsRetarded http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295877 NickIsRetarded Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:13:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295877 Nick is a troll. Attack! Nick is a troll.

Attack!

]]> By: db0 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295868 db0 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:03:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295868 and by "this piece" I meant http://www.dbzer0.com/blog/2006/06/22/public-venture-public-content (the link was eaten) and by “this piece” I meant

http://www.dbzer0.com/blog/2006/06/22/public-venture-public-content

(the link was eaten)

]]> By: db0 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295867 db0 Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:02:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295867 <blockquote>If you've got ideas, throw them in the comments box below</blockquote> Well, I did write this piece</a> almost two years ago and I would still like to try it out as an idea.

If you’ve got ideas, throw them in the comments box below

Well, I did write this piece almost two years ago and I would still like to try it out as an idea.

]]> By: Horsecrap http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295866 Horsecrap Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:02:31 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295866 Here's a question: how many torrent users have actually donated money to the guy who created BitTorrent? I did, and I hardly ever use the thing. If every Bit Torrent user donated $5, the guy would be RICH. And guess what? He's not. Unfortunately, this scenario is often used to point out that people do not always put their money where their mouth is. So go give that guy a donation, and then come back to talk about the ethics of file sharing and how we need change. Here’s a question: how many torrent users have actually donated money to the guy who created BitTorrent? I did, and I hardly ever use the thing. If every Bit Torrent user donated $5, the guy would be RICH. And guess what? He’s not. Unfortunately, this scenario is often used to point out that people do not always put their money where their mouth is. So go give that guy a donation, and then come back to talk about the ethics of file sharing and how we need change.

]]> By: Horsecrap http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295860 Horsecrap Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:54:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295860 Is there really a single 'creator' in film? Sure, Joss Whedon developed the idea for Firefly, but just think about how many people needed to be involved to produce the finished product. Who is the 'creator' here? I would suggest that everyone involved in the filming and production plays that role. As such, are they not all entitled to compensation? And therein lies the problem. The complexities of compensating so many people require some sort of organization. You have to deal with multiple unions, multi national financial considerations, insurance, and a myriad of other issues. The time and effort required for these productions is enormously expensive. I have read about how inflated movie budgets are, but they are not 90% inflated. If you are happy with low-budget movies, then that's a different story. But the Hollywood blockbuster requires an entire infrastructure to create it. And therein lies the problem. You don't like all the adds? You don't want to have adds on the DVD? You don't want to share the thing with people? So where does the money come from to pay the bill for the film, and the salaries of all the people involved? Suggesting that file sharing is a 'protest' against copywrite and DRM is crap. Its about watching a movie and not paying for it. And I personally don't care what people do, but its dishonest to suggest that it has some ethical motivation. If you truly want a different system, stop WATCHING Hollywood movies. Find a film that is freely distributed, watch that, and promote it. All you yahoos swapping Hollywood movies and yammering on about how 'ethical' it is are full of shit. Sharing those movies is supporting the system just as much as buying them. If you truly care about digital freedom, go BUY an independent film and let people know that they should go BUY it too so that the 'creator' can pay the rent and make another film. Is there really a single ‘creator’ in film? Sure, Joss Whedon developed the idea for Firefly, but just think about how many people needed to be involved to produce the finished product. Who is the ‘creator’ here? I would suggest that everyone involved in the filming and production plays that role. As such, are they not all entitled to compensation? And therein lies the problem. The complexities of compensating so many people require some sort of organization. You have to deal with multiple unions, multi national financial considerations, insurance, and a myriad of other issues. The time and effort required for these productions is enormously expensive. I have read about how inflated movie budgets are, but they are not 90% inflated. If you are happy with low-budget movies, then that’s a different story. But the Hollywood blockbuster requires an entire infrastructure to create it. And therein lies the problem. You don’t like all the adds? You don’t want to have adds on the DVD? You don’t want to share the thing with people? So where does the money come from to pay the bill for the film, and the salaries of all the people involved? Suggesting that file sharing is a ‘protest’ against copywrite and DRM is crap. Its about watching a movie and not paying for it. And I personally don’t care what people do, but its dishonest to suggest that it has some ethical motivation.

If you truly want a different system, stop WATCHING Hollywood movies. Find a film that is freely distributed, watch that, and promote it. All you yahoos swapping Hollywood movies and yammering on about how ‘ethical’ it is are full of shit. Sharing those movies is supporting the system just as much as buying them. If you truly care about digital freedom, go BUY an independent film and let people know that they should go BUY it too so that the ‘creator’ can pay the rent and make another film.

]]> By: Jeremy http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295858 Jeremy Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:51:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295858 We need a system where the following can happen: 1) Show makers can create a pilot for a show, and upload it to a site. 2) Fans can review pilots to find shows they would like to see. Once they find one, they pay $X (minimum amount decided by the show's creator, but people could always volunteer more) to get a "subscription" to the show. 3. Once enough people have paid enough money to meet the show's production costs (again, determined by the creator ahead of time), the show would go in to production. The intermediary site (the one hosting all these pilots) would handle the contract between the fans (who paid) and the show, to ensure that no one gets cheated (they'd make the payments to the show, and deliver the show to the fans). 4. Once a season is done, the process would repeat, only this time without a pilot. 5. Ideally any finished (and paid for) shows would go in to the public domain. We need a system where the following can happen:

1) Show makers can create a pilot for a show, and upload it to a site.
2) Fans can review pilots to find shows they would like to see. Once they find one, they pay $X (minimum amount decided by the show’s creator, but people could always volunteer more) to get a “subscription” to the show.

3. Once enough people have paid enough money to meet the show’s production costs (again, determined by the creator ahead of time), the show would go in to production. The intermediary site (the one hosting all these pilots) would handle the contract between the fans (who paid) and the show, to ensure that no one gets cheated (they’d make the payments to the show, and deliver the show to the fans).

4. Once a season is done, the process would repeat, only this time without a pilot.

5. Ideally any finished (and paid for) shows would go in to the public domain.

]]> By: stfu http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295852 stfu Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:39:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295852 [quote comment="295767"] I have to disagree with the thrashing the BBC is getting. I think they are putting out some good stuff. There documentaries are a refreshing change to Hollywood popcorn films. But then again I'm not in England and I'm getting BBC via Sat, so I'm not paying for it. Thanks to those who do :).[/quote] And there lies the problem. Most of the people in the world who priase the BBC for their so called quality programming are not forced by law to pay for the damn thing. Every year we pay more and get less, all so they can sell the programming we pay for to every other country on the planet who then get to watch it for fuck all. The commercial wing of the BBC makes more than enough money to support their cheap ass programming, the british public should not be forced to foot the bill so the shareholders in the commercial part of the BBC can get fat bonuses by selling the programming we pay to get made. Its about time they stopped leeching off of the british public. As for the BBCi player, its a drm infected pile of shit, and whever mentioned BBC3 BBC4 ecterea, stfu, they are a comlete waste of air time. I'd rather have my eyelids forced open ala Clockwork Orange, and be forced to watch QVC 24/7, you moron. [quote comment="295767"]
I have to disagree with the thrashing the BBC is getting. I think they are putting out some good stuff. There documentaries are a refreshing change to Hollywood popcorn films.

But then again I’m not in England and I’m getting BBC via Sat, so I’m not paying for it. Thanks to those who do :).[/quote]

And there lies the problem. Most of the people in the world who priase the BBC for their so called quality programming are not forced by law to pay for the damn thing. Every year we pay more and get less, all so they can sell the programming we pay for to every other country on the planet who then get to watch it for fuck all. The commercial wing of the BBC makes more than enough money to support their cheap ass programming, the british public should not be forced to foot the bill so the shareholders in the commercial part of the BBC can get fat bonuses by selling the programming we pay to get made. Its about time they stopped leeching off of the british public. As for the BBCi player, its a drm infected pile of shit, and whever mentioned BBC3 BBC4 ecterea, stfu, they are a comlete waste of air time. I’d rather have my eyelids forced open ala Clockwork Orange, and be forced to watch QVC 24/7, you moron.

]]> By: poopoo http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295816 poopoo Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:25:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295816 agree with WTF agree with WTF

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295785 Anonymous Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:41:33 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295785 [quote comment="295547"][quote comment="295152"]The really need to bring back Firefly[/quote] YESSS!!! yes they do.[/quote] yesss [quote comment="295547"][quote comment="295152"]The really need to bring back Firefly[/quote]
YESSS!!! yes they do.[/quote]
yesss

]]> By: WTF http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295767 WTF Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:06:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295767 Extremely Naive! I am a proponent of the try before you buy idea, concerning torrents, but the writers outlook is overly simplistic. The success of a film or TV show and the financial rewards gained by the producers, distributors etc... make it more likely these writers, carpenters, camera technicians, make-up, caterers etc... will get hired again! Whoever is putting out the money is taking the biggest risk and deserve the greatest financial rewards. That is how market capitalism functions. Take a look at the German film industry. Heavily subsidized and floundering in incompetence. Even the German press heap scorn on the committees who dole out the funds. Hollywoods market driven system has put it at the top for quality film production. I have to disagree with the thrashing the BBC is getting. I think they are putting out some good stuff. There documentaries are a refreshing change to Hollywood popcorn films. But then again I'm not in England and I'm getting BBC via Sat, so I'm not paying for it. Thanks to those who do :). Cheers. Viva la Revolution Extremely Naive! I am a proponent of the try before you buy idea, concerning torrents, but the writers outlook is overly simplistic. The success of a film or TV show and the financial rewards gained by the producers, distributors etc… make it more likely these writers, carpenters, camera technicians, make-up, caterers etc… will get hired again!

Whoever is putting out the money is taking the biggest risk and deserve the greatest financial rewards. That is how market capitalism functions. Take a look at the German film industry. Heavily subsidized and floundering in incompetence. Even the German press heap scorn on the committees who dole out the funds. Hollywoods market driven system has put it at the top for quality film production.

I have to disagree with the thrashing the BBC is getting. I think they are putting out some good stuff. There documentaries are a refreshing change to Hollywood popcorn films. But then again I’m not in England and I’m getting BBC via Sat, so I’m not paying for it. Thanks to those who do :).

Cheers. Viva la Revolution

]]> By: TagZ http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295761 TagZ Fri, 22 Feb 2008 14:02:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295761 The creators and the others that take part in creating the media need to make a living somehow. We don't want to pay for it - call it the want for convenience or blame the shabby state of TV in general, but at the core of it we just don't want to pay. Case in point - the last Radiohead Album. I believe only three people paid for it. The rest deleted the files after the first listen, but that is beside the point. The creators and the others that take part in creating the media need to make a living somehow. We don’t want to pay for it – call it the want for convenience or blame the shabby state of TV in general, but at the core of it we just don’t want to pay.

Case in point – the last Radiohead Album. I believe only three people paid for it. The rest deleted the files after the first listen, but that is beside the point.

]]> By: Monster_mack http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295752 Monster_mack Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:40:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295752 An interesting article because I was having similar thoughts. I recently downloaded I am legend, and I really enjoyed it. I thought, hmm, I should buy the dvd in order to support the makers of the film, but then I remembered that the money would go elsewhere, and only a very small amount would go where I wanted it to go. So I said to myself, fuck it. I am sorry "I am legend" guys, I wish there was a way to support you in a different way. An interesting article because I was having similar thoughts.
I recently downloaded I am legend, and I really enjoyed it. I thought, hmm, I should buy the dvd in order to support the makers of the film, but then I remembered that the money would go elsewhere, and only a very small amount would go where I wanted it to go.
So I said to myself, fuck it.

I am sorry “I am legend” guys, I wish there was a way to support you in a different way.

]]> By: Teenage Mutant Killer Tomato http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295733 Teenage Mutant Killer Tomato Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:57:56 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295733 I said the same of music not too long ago. That if any RIAA label is connected to the music at all, don't buy it new. Buy used or download it. Same with gibson guitars and it's subsidiaries. The people you like aren't getting the benefits of the money so give it direct. I'm hoping enough people can figure out how ready big media is to just collapse in on itself. I said the same of music not too long ago. That if any RIAA label is connected to the music at all, don’t buy it new. Buy used or download it.

Same with gibson guitars and it’s subsidiaries.

The people you like aren’t getting the benefits of the money so give it direct. I’m hoping enough people can figure out how ready big media is to just collapse in on itself.

]]> By: kisli http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295724 kisli Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:38:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295724 [quote comment="295678"]That's nice and all, but nothing gets made without producers. They need to get paid too. Don't leave them out of your grand scheme here. We wouldn't see tv shows with high production quality like lost without guys with lots of money paying for these things. That's just how it is.[/quote] Yeah, yeah. The problem is exactly well produced recycled shit. and btw, true artists dont sell themselves, entertainers do. and prostitutes. [quote comment="295678"]That’s nice and all, but nothing gets made without producers. They need to get paid too. Don’t leave them out of your grand scheme here. We wouldn’t see tv shows with high production quality like lost without guys with lots of money paying for these things.

That’s just how it is.[/quote]

Yeah, yeah. The problem is exactly well produced recycled shit.
and btw, true artists dont sell themselves, entertainers do. and prostitutes.

]]> By: peter griffin http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295714 peter griffin Fri, 22 Feb 2008 12:18:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295714 1. downloaded content is usually from much lower quality then tv. 2. don't watch prime time tv. it's for desperate people. 3. get HDTV. you will enjoy it. 4. continue watching unavailable stuff on your computer, that's what it's for. 1. downloaded content is usually from much lower quality then tv.

2. don’t watch prime time tv. it’s for desperate people.

3. get HDTV. you will enjoy it.

4. continue watching unavailable stuff on your computer, that’s what it’s for.

]]> By: Tommy http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295701 Tommy Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:49:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295701 This is one of the most beautifully written articles I have seen up to date on the 'net. Keep on. Ciao from Italy. This is one of the most beautifully written articles I have seen up to date on the ‘net.

Keep on.

Ciao from Italy.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295678 Anonymous Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:59:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295678 That's nice and all, but nothing gets made without producers. They need to get paid too. Don't leave them out of your grand scheme here. We wouldn't see tv shows with high production quality like lost without guys with lots of money paying for these things. That's just how it is. That’s nice and all, but nothing gets made without producers. They need to get paid too. Don’t leave them out of your grand scheme here. We wouldn’t see tv shows with high production quality like lost without guys with lots of money paying for these things.

That’s just how it is.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295673 Anonymous Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:46:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295673 I haven't paid for tv in over a year. I have a 72"tv for my monitor to watch dvd-r and xvid rips. I refuse to pay for protected media. I haven’t paid for tv in over a year.

I have a 72″tv for my monitor to watch dvd-r and xvid rips.

I refuse to pay for protected media.

]]> By: Stef http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295671 Stef Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:42:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295671 Brilliant - sums up so well the thoughts that have been brewing up inside of me. Brilliant – sums up so well the thoughts that have been brewing up inside of me.

]]> By: MG http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295665 MG Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:27:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295665 How about a solution where a show has one of those donation thermometers, so the initial pilot gets made, and the next one won't get made until it reaches a certain level in the donation thermometer. I'm sure JFC addicts like myself would have banned together and paid for the next installment. The creators would have to subsidize the first pilot, but that's their risk, but if they feel they got a hit, they can go for it, the donation system could hold funds in escrow and if the critical mass is not reached in a certain time period then the donations could be refunded. There could even be a system where if a series did well in advertisng, dvd, or product placement revenue, the donator/investors would get a slice of the pie. Wow I like this idea, I'm gonna go launch my new website. How about a solution where a show has one of those donation thermometers, so the initial pilot gets made, and the next one won’t get made until it reaches a certain level in the donation thermometer. I’m sure JFC addicts like myself would have banned together and paid for the next installment. The creators would have to subsidize the first pilot, but that’s their risk, but if they feel they got a hit, they can go for it, the donation system could hold funds in escrow and if the critical mass is not reached in a certain time period then the donations could be refunded. There could even be a system where if a series did well in advertisng, dvd, or product placement revenue, the donator/investors would get a slice of the pie. Wow I like this idea, I’m gonna go launch my new website.

]]> By: poopoo http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295651 poopoo Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:04:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295651 I'm not addicted to the products of the modern entertainment industry. So to me, all you people who whinge about the 'evil empire', old guard of media sound a lot like people who whinge about how expensive it is to smoke cigerettes due to the taxes the government puts on it. So, if you can't afford to smoke, don't smoke and if you can't afford to consume media, don't consume it. But for heavens sake, don't go around pretending to be some kind of couch potato vanguard, 'liberating' products robin hood style for the peasants consumption. I’m not addicted to the products of the modern entertainment industry. So to me, all you people who whinge about the ‘evil empire’, old guard of media sound a lot like people who whinge about how expensive it is to smoke cigerettes due to the taxes the government puts on it.

So, if you can’t afford to smoke, don’t smoke and if you can’t afford to consume media, don’t consume it. But for heavens sake, don’t go around pretending to be some kind of couch potato vanguard, ‘liberating’ products robin hood style for the peasants consumption.

]]> By: Imagine http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295630 Imagine Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:22:57 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295630 If you want the guess what the future of entertainment looks like, peek around youtube. Entertainment follows a power law, and youtube showcases how long exactly the long tail can be. At the same time, there are gems on youtube. While the medium encourages short and amateurish creations, it wouldn't be that much harder to progressively evolve the medium toward better produced creations. I don't think salvation is going to come from the TV, recording or movie worlds. They still have too much to lose in the transition. My money is on the public at large being given better tools of creation and distribution. If that can translate into commercial endeavors, familiar names will inevitably start to appear in the new arena. If you want the guess what the future of entertainment looks like, peek around youtube.
Entertainment follows a power law, and youtube showcases how long exactly the long tail can be.
At the same time, there are gems on youtube. While the medium encourages short and amateurish creations, it wouldn’t be that much harder to progressively evolve the medium toward better produced creations.

I don’t think salvation is going to come from the TV, recording or movie worlds. They still have too much to lose in the transition. My money is on the public at large being given better tools of creation and distribution. If that can translate into commercial endeavors, familiar names will inevitably start to appear in the new arena.

]]> By: Kiah http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295604 Kiah Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:45:38 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295604 Or you could...do something more constructive. Honestly, anything you can think of - anything at all - is more constructive and a better use of your time than watching television. Get a hobby, play a game, hang out with your friends, read Digg obsessively, hell even watching a movie is time better spent than television. Sad, but true. Or you could…do something more constructive. Honestly, anything you can think of – anything at all – is more constructive and a better use of your time than watching television. Get a hobby, play a game, hang out with your friends, read Digg obsessively, hell even watching a movie is time better spent than television.

Sad, but true.

]]> By: McFly http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295592 McFly Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:26:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295592 The only reason I still have cable is because I live with my mom and she won't buy a computer nor cancel the cable. Shows I watch every episode of: Simpsons, Family Guy, 24, Lost, House MD. All available for download the same night they air. I'm paying $60 a month for four hours of TV per week, two hours of which aren't even on right currently, and aren't on half the year or more. Who's crazy? The only reason I still have cable is because I live with my mom and she won’t buy a computer nor cancel the cable. Shows I watch every episode of: Simpsons, Family Guy, 24, Lost, House MD. All available for download the same night they air. I’m paying $60 a month for four hours of TV per week, two hours of which aren’t even on right currently, and aren’t on half the year or more. Who’s crazy?

]]> By: Someguy http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295581 Someguy Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:08:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/buying-the-dvd-unhelpful-and-unethical-080221/#comment-295581 English isn't the only language on the planet... TV shows and movies are produced in countries other than the USA, UK, etc. English isn’t the only language on the planet… TV shows and movies are produced in countries other than the USA, UK, etc.

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