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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-276298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andreas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Essentially this means that data will be distributed in a similar fashion as it is with Usenet. They haven&#039;t shut down Usenet so why wouldn&#039;t ISPs offer BT caches?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Essentially this means that data will be distributed in a similar fashion as it is with Usenet. They haven&#8217;t shut down Usenet so why wouldn&#8217;t ISPs offer BT caches?</p>
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		<title>By: dollars &#38;sense</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-211566</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dollars &#38;sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Look the reason why ISP&#039;s put up with bt traffic is my fricking money! If they don&#039;t want people who use bt to use their services all they have to do is block it and we will go to the next game in town that will let bt user use bt...simple. Let me tell you about the power of 1. if i have 1 million people giving me 1 dollar a month every month how much do i have? Now that&#039;s why the throttle instead of block and that&#039;s why their greedy little asses will never stop letting bt traffic on their networks. end of story]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look the reason why ISP&#8217;s put up with bt traffic is my fricking money! If they don&#8217;t want people who use bt to use their services all they have to do is block it and we will go to the next game in town that will let bt user use bt&#8230;simple. Let me tell you about the power of 1. if i have 1 million people giving me 1 dollar a month every month how much do i have? Now that&#8217;s why the throttle instead of block and that&#8217;s why their greedy little asses will never stop letting bt traffic on their networks. end of story</p>
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		<title>By: Bouillon project &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How hard will P2P hit backbones?</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-10340</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bouillon project &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How hard will P2P hit backbones?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2006 08:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Here are some recent news: BitTorrent developers are introducing caching functionality to resolve tensions with leading ISPs whose pipes are cluttered with BT (30-60% of traffic according to Bram Cohen). Some ISPs throttled BT, BT answered with encryption to prevent detection. What if P2P BitTorrent-like traffic will become more and more prevalent? Freaks apart, what if most of casual users will be intensively consuming podcasting/vlogging/other multimedia distributed via P2P? WWW traffic could be aggregated well (e.g. 1000*10Mbit=100Mbit), because users don&#8217;t browse synchronously. A P2P client may stream instantly, 24&#215;7. This way, aggregation is not possible. Deploying backbones capable of serving all the bandwidth sold is likely to be too expensive. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here are some recent news: BitTorrent developers are introducing caching functionality to resolve tensions with leading ISPs whose pipes are cluttered with BT (30-60% of traffic according to Bram Cohen). Some ISPs throttled BT, BT answered with encryption to prevent detection. What if P2P BitTorrent-like traffic will become more and more prevalent? Freaks apart, what if most of casual users will be intensively consuming podcasting/vlogging/other multimedia distributed via P2P? WWW traffic could be aggregated well (e.g. 1000*10Mbit=100Mbit), because users don&#8217;t browse synchronously. A P2P client may stream instantly, 24&#215;7. This way, aggregation is not possible. Deploying backbones capable of serving all the bandwidth sold is likely to be too expensive. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: varun krish on the web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Download torrents from your ISP soon !!</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-9481</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[varun krish on the web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Download torrents from your ISP soon !!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2006 04:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Binary</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-9437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Binary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[quote comment=&quot;9434&quot;]P2P isn&#039;t used to transfer legal content,  its used to transfer copyrighted material to avoid having to pay for it.  For movies,  music,  applications and video games.  Trying to come up with a nice system for downloading legal content is a great idea but it ignores that the content being traded is almost entirely illegal to begin with.[/quote]

Do you have factual proof of this? Or is this your own opinion of what you typically use your BT client for?

Any technology can be used for good or bad. Cell phones are used by drug dealers because they&#039;re harder to track than a land line... lets make those illegal. No, that would be silly.

So is your argument. There are tens of thousands of legit torrents available - and it allows content providers to spend their money on making quality content - not paying for bandwidth.

Grow up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="9434"]P2P isn&#8217;t used to transfer legal content,  its used to transfer copyrighted material to avoid having to pay for it.  For movies,  music,  applications and video games.  Trying to come up with a nice system for downloading legal content is a great idea but it ignores that the content being traded is almost entirely illegal to begin with.[/quote]</p>
<p>Do you have factual proof of this? Or is this your own opinion of what you typically use your BT client for?</p>
<p>Any technology can be used for good or bad. Cell phones are used by drug dealers because they&#8217;re harder to track than a land line&#8230; lets make those illegal. No, that would be silly.</p>
<p>So is your argument. There are tens of thousands of legit torrents available &#8211; and it allows content providers to spend their money on making quality content &#8211; not paying for bandwidth.</p>
<p>Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Binary</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-9436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Binary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[quote comment=&quot;9425&quot;]
All you need to do is figure a 4GB ISO download is equivilent traffic to about 100,000 emails and web pages and you can see how easily this happened.[/quote]

So blame open source software for creating linux distributions... that are 4GB in size. No, that wouldn&#039;t be right.  Look - torrents are here to stay. They are just as legit as web or email traffic. ISP&#039;s figured out running internal mirrors for sourceforge, Tucows, and others was much cheaper than kicking their users to their peer connections. Do the same for bittorrents - and you&#039;ll have happy users and cheaper bandwidth bills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="9425"]<br />
All you need to do is figure a 4GB ISO download is equivilent traffic to about 100,000 emails and web pages and you can see how easily this happened.[/quote]</p>
<p>So blame open source software for creating linux distributions&#8230; that are 4GB in size. No, that wouldn&#8217;t be right.  Look &#8211; torrents are here to stay. They are just as legit as web or email traffic. ISP&#8217;s figured out running internal mirrors for sourceforge, Tucows, and others was much cheaper than kicking their users to their peer connections. Do the same for bittorrents &#8211; and you&#8217;ll have happy users and cheaper bandwidth bills.</p>
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		<title>By: Ditto Much</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-9434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ditto Much]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 16:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P2P isn&#039;t used to transfer legal content,  its used to transfer copyrighted material to avoid having to pay for it.  For movies,  music,  applications and video games.  Trying to come up with a nice system for downloading legal content is a great idea but it ignores that the content being traded is almost entirely illegal to begin with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P2P isn&#8217;t used to transfer legal content,  its used to transfer copyrighted material to avoid having to pay for it.  For movies,  music,  applications and video games.  Trying to come up with a nice system for downloading legal content is a great idea but it ignores that the content being traded is almost entirely illegal to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Goldenpi</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-9431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goldenpi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How does this distinguish legal from infringing content? If it doesn&#039;t, no ISP will touch it - not with the MPAA sending threatening glances in their direction. But if it does, then there will have to be some type of trusted authority (ie, CacheLogic). Which means there will be burocracy and fees to pay for anyone who wants to take advantage of the cache, to have their content certified and signed as non-infringing.

That achieves nothing. The majority of the traffic will still be unsigned - not just the illegal, but the small and non-profit projects that cant afford the time or money for certification.

Its a perfect guilty-until-proven-innocent system. And if you want to prove your innocence, you have to pay for it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does this distinguish legal from infringing content? If it doesn&#8217;t, no ISP will touch it &#8211; not with the MPAA sending threatening glances in their direction. But if it does, then there will have to be some type of trusted authority (ie, CacheLogic). Which means there will be burocracy and fees to pay for anyone who wants to take advantage of the cache, to have their content certified and signed as non-infringing.</p>
<p>That achieves nothing. The majority of the traffic will still be unsigned &#8211; not just the illegal, but the small and non-profit projects that cant afford the time or money for certification.</p>
<p>Its a perfect guilty-until-proven-innocent system. And if you want to prove your innocence, you have to pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Heliologue</title>
		<link>/cachelogic-and-bittorrent-introduce-cache-discovery-protocol/#comment-9426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heliologue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d feel bad for ISPs if the major telcos hadn&#039;t been promising us the moon for the last decade.  If they had carried through on their promises (and on the millions given to them by the government), we&#039;d all have fibre to the curb and more capacity than even bittorrent could fill.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d feel bad for ISPs if the major telcos hadn&#8217;t been promising us the moon for the last decade.  If they had carried through on their promises (and on the millions given to them by the government), we&#8217;d all have fibre to the curb and more capacity than even bittorrent could fill.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Brundle</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seth Brundle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2006 14:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, the problem exists there is no doubt. My friend owns one of the largest regional ISPs in California and his bandwidth went through the roof with P2P traffic.

All you need to do is figure a 4GB ISO download is equivilent traffic to about 100,000 emails and web pages and you can see how easily this happened.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the problem exists there is no doubt. My friend owns one of the largest regional ISPs in California and his bandwidth went through the roof with P2P traffic.</p>
<p>All you need to do is figure a 4GB ISO download is equivilent traffic to about 100,000 emails and web pages and you can see how easily this happened.</p>
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