We have broad-band typical for american-style ADSL up to 1100 up and 14000 (advertised as 16000) down.

Telling Rick to STFU because jake don’t have access to what Rick has, sounds like an energy better spent on getting what Rick has or moving somewhere civilized where Rick’s style Internet connection, and many other basic rights of humans, are honored.

Only, because (I’m guessing here) jake lives in a populist pre-authoritatian state, doesn’t mean Rick has to STFU for a reminder of the hazards for working folks, such as the connection, equal now to dial-up. jake seems to think it gives him license to tell Rick off: in a so-called free speech zone. Free for what?

Use your bitterness to change your situation, not by cussing out a Swede.

You know, Rick, us ‘Americans’ (meaning USA, I’m guessing) really need to put down our 44oz sodas, stop our bickering over internal issues, and see the big picture:

A general strike until we get what we want: including a publicly-owned high-speed infrastructure, no private bank controlling assets and no more monopolies in the so-called ‘market’, and many many other things OT. Unless it happens in, say, 1 year (these things don’t take long), more general strikes. It won’t paralyze the economy, as it’s already 80% dead.

Btw after the ;last updates in Azureus and Bitcomet the above tips dont work. One good tip is to access ur rooter and give him the exact ports that ur client uses,
if anyone is interresting how to have stable speed in torrents just use the following query in google:
port mantake& or +”routermodelname” bittorent.

dont use the ” or both & and + signs.
example
port mantake+cisco980ft bitorrent.

u will get the walkthroughts for ur router. or if you are really bored to search and go edit ur router’s options just download connection optimizer,.(from version 2.34 I think i was out on September 2k7) it has a button for optimizing ur bittorrent client. It supports the most known and i can tell u that it works for bitcomet after version 0.91 and azureus vuze..3.0.4.2

other clients like μtorrent… never tested so play with it.

The only thing torrents will do is make the rich a little less rich, and the poor a little less poor. I love you people.

I’m only gettin like 2(yes 2!)Mbit/s, but that’s mainly because I live about 150km frm d big shmoke aka Dublin

The government doesnt really give a **** about the other 90% of the population as long as those d4 pricks can see Ross O’Carroll Kelly say “Awlroysh” in 1080p on a 36″ telly, Live, from The Moon, wearing a leinster jersey, while playing rugby, and drinkin west coast cooler, all while opening a Brown Thomas Outlet

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Thanks again!

You don’t need to build an archive any longer. That said, I have a couple of terabytes. That’s not unusual today, though.

Elohssa: I wouldn’t be so sure. Several studies here are showing that the TV is being slowly replaced, and IP telephony is coming very strongly. Myself, I haven’t had a TV set for ten years. I just don’t understand the appeal of tuning in to prepackaged entertainment on somebody else’s schedule, and I haven’t had a landline phone in some eight years (I use cellphone only). Radio is a different matter. I don’t have one of those, either – I mostly have Pandora running.

There are plenty of historical examples of companies choosing not to pursue new technology in favor of existing revenue streams. My favorite is Polaroid, the instant camera manufacturer, who were actually first with digital photography (which has completely obsoleted Polaroid). They chose not to pursue that technology on exactly the grounds that it would kill their existing business, and they went bankrupt a couple of years ago.

If there is a profit to be made, then capitalism demands that it be made. The telcos and cable companies are positioned to dominate this new revenue stream, so why are they not taking advantage? It’s un-American. :]

More bandwidth could enhance the pre-existing services, not make them extinct. People still watch TV and listen to radio in Sweden, I assume. I know they won’t be stopping any time soon over here.

Perhaps you are correct, but I still find it hard to imagine that profit-driven companies, regardless of baggage, would outright refuse to feed a hungry market because they are already servicing a different one.

We can see the same thing happening in many countries in Europe. The key reason Sweden didn’t take this road was a few hungry entrepreneurs who founded Internet-Only providers, with no telco or TV business luggage. They quickly established new norms that telco and cable simply had to follow or get the heck out of the market.

That is, what is the population density? If you have a high enough population density, the area itself is irrelevant, as the market is large enough. If the pop density is low enough, it doesn’t matter if you’re just fibring an area as large as a city, you’re still not going to get it back.

The United States has 50% _HIGHER_ population density than Sweden, even with Alaska counted. The US has 31 people per km^2, Sweden has 20.

I’ll admit that we’ve neglected our infrastructure, but I don’t see your ISPs rolling in to show we yanks how to do it right. I’m sure there are legal issues there (nothing is easy in telecom.) It’s no excuse, but we also developed the Internet, and we’re suffering a national “early adopter” penalty. And of course, the pre-existing tech cash cows are still mooing away.

The first non-US ISP that wants to spring for stretching fiber across the lower 48, and then offering it up at fair rates is welcome to a blow from my GF. It would only take a 100 years to recoup your investment. With medical technology, some of the original investor might still be alive to turn a profit.

As for the “tens of thousands of dollars” claim, I think you’re right, you would have to pay tens of thousands of dollars for that kind of speed, yes. But for us who pay in Swedish Krona, Yen, or whatever currency Korea uses, it’s readily available at reasonable rates. Heck, it’s more than just “available”, 100Mbit full duplex is some sort of minimum acceptable standard in urban households today in Sweden. Some have gigabit connections.

Several industries have had a gigantic financial incentive in delaying the Internet rollout, particularly TV and telco. Ironically, these are the ones who provide low-speed internet connectivity (single digit megabits) in the US and claim it’s fast. They have to do that in order to not lose their major cash cow, TV and land line telecomms.

What the US needs is independent internet providers without previous cash flows to safeguard against new technology.

Cheers,
Rick (pirate party lead)

they rob us in north america