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		<title>By: Judge Delays Teksavvy Copyright Trolls For Public Interest Intervention &#124; TorrentFreak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Judge Delays Teksavvy Copyright Trolls For Public Interest Intervention &#124; TorrentFreak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 11:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in December Teksavvy asked for an adjournment of the case so it could properly advise its customers they were being targeted [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in December Teksavvy asked for an adjournment of the case so it could properly advise its customers they were being targeted [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Canadian</title>
		<link>/canadian-isp-defends-decision-not-to-oppose-bittorrent-copyright-trolls-121218/#comment-1017104</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Canadian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 08:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So does this mean they will go after every person who taped songs off the radio? Everyone who taped a movie off tv? They even made boomboxes with 2 decks specifically to copy tapes! Why is it now wrong to do what has been encouraged for years? If you have internet you most likely have cable and radio access, so saying it&#039;s not the same scope can shut up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So does this mean they will go after every person who taped songs off the radio? Everyone who taped a movie off tv? They even made boomboxes with 2 decks specifically to copy tapes! Why is it now wrong to do what has been encouraged for years? If you have internet you most likely have cable and radio access, so saying it&#8217;s not the same scope can shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Naze</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Naze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well as far as i can see this bobmail guy is a complete shit. He get paid to troll people.shame on you noob. few days before i heard cop arrested a 9 year old girl for downloading copyrighted video &amp; took her winnie the pooh laptop. Criminals are moving freely &amp; kids are being arrested by cope.thats how usa is. &amp; you looks like those guy bob who can arrest a kid just coz he/she downloaded something]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well as far as i can see this bobmail guy is a complete shit. He get paid to troll people.shame on you noob. few days before i heard cop arrested a 9 year old girl for downloading copyrighted video &amp; took her winnie the pooh laptop. Criminals are moving freely &amp; kids are being arrested by cope.thats how usa is. &amp; you looks like those guy bob who can arrest a kid just coz he/she downloaded something</p>
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		<title>By: Hololol</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hololol]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 06:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Encrypted packets do pass Deep packet inspection. DPI cannot break into an encrypted packet to see whats inside. Whoever mentioned that is possible is wrong. Look it up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Encrypted packets do pass Deep packet inspection. DPI cannot break into an encrypted packet to see whats inside. Whoever mentioned that is possible is wrong. Look it up.</p>
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		<title>By: 0omg</title>
		<link>/canadian-isp-defends-decision-not-to-oppose-bittorrent-copyright-trolls-121218/#comment-1012017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[0omg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dont mind him ... probly a paid copyright troll]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dont mind him &#8230; probly a paid copyright troll</p>
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		<title>By: Goodbye Voltage!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goodbye Voltage!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t settle.  Fight ... that is exactly what Voltage&#039;s lawyers hope won&#039;t happen.

Their legal costs to fight 2,000 lawsuits - most of which will ultimately be lost by simply pointing out that an IP does NOT MEAN that it was your download, not to mention sympathetic judges in a David vs Goliath legal fight.

Better that central legal counsel be retained ($100 per person sets up a hell of a fund) to deal with core issues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t settle.  Fight &#8230; that is exactly what Voltage&#8217;s lawyers hope won&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>Their legal costs to fight 2,000 lawsuits &#8211; most of which will ultimately be lost by simply pointing out that an IP does NOT MEAN that it was your download, not to mention sympathetic judges in a David vs Goliath legal fight.</p>
<p>Better that central legal counsel be retained ($100 per person sets up a hell of a fund) to deal with core issues.</p>
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		<title>By: OccamsKatana</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OccamsKatana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;
I always love the twisted logic.

I never invited the whole world over to listen to music. I never gave my comic books to everyone at the same time. I never hummed a song loud enough to be heard by everyone, and I most certainly didn&#039;t lend my movies to everyone in the world while magically also keeping it.

You are stupid. (You asked for it).

Everything you listed has reasonable and logical limits. You can only lend your comic book to one person at a time. You can only fit a half a dozen people in your living room to watch a movie. You can&#039;t sing loud enough in public to let the whole world hear.

Most importantly in all of those things is time. When you invite people over to watch a movie, you have to spend the time watching the movie too. With a half a dozen people a time, you couldn&#039;t even invite the whole student body of your local high school over to watch the movie in a month. Think about it. 2 showings a night, 6 people per show... that&#039;s 12 people. That&#039;s only 360 people in a MONTH, and you would be giving up every evening of your month to do it - plus cleaning.

Online, you could share the movie with 360 people in a few minutes. Given the month, you could easily reach everyone on the planet.

Most importantly, reaching all of those people would not take any of your time. You spend a minute, not a month to get it done.

Scale. it&#039;s the real issue that stupid people don&#039;t get. Are you that stupid?&lt;/i&gt;


So in your world, it&#039;s ok to be a little bit illegal?  Buddy, your logic tells me that you say this is all ok, it just depends on the scale of it???  So assault isn&#039;t assault if I only punch you in the face once in awhile instead of outright beating the shit out of you?

We&#039;ve always shared, whether its been lending a friend a book, giving your best girl a mixtape, or whatever.... Why is it suddenly a crime just because we&#039;ve shifted formats? Speaking of format shifting, why is it also now illegal to rip the CD  I paid for onto my mp3 player?    Because of idiot logic like yours that makes the laws.

The tip thing...... you entirely missed the point of that. Sad really.

Buddy, you have to pick a side. It&#039;s either ok by you to share, or it&#039;s not. Not kinda, sorta, or only if it&#039;s one person at a time..... you either share or you don&#039;t. Which is it?  Fuck the twisted logic, let&#039;s talk BLACK AND WHITE. Pick a side.]]></description>
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I always love the twisted logic.</p>
<p>I never invited the whole world over to listen to music. I never gave my comic books to everyone at the same time. I never hummed a song loud enough to be heard by everyone, and I most certainly didn&#8217;t lend my movies to everyone in the world while magically also keeping it.</p>
<p>You are stupid. (You asked for it).</p>
<p>Everything you listed has reasonable and logical limits. You can only lend your comic book to one person at a time. You can only fit a half a dozen people in your living room to watch a movie. You can&#8217;t sing loud enough in public to let the whole world hear.</p>
<p>Most importantly in all of those things is time. When you invite people over to watch a movie, you have to spend the time watching the movie too. With a half a dozen people a time, you couldn&#8217;t even invite the whole student body of your local high school over to watch the movie in a month. Think about it. 2 showings a night, 6 people per show&#8230; that&#8217;s 12 people. That&#8217;s only 360 people in a MONTH, and you would be giving up every evening of your month to do it &#8211; plus cleaning.</p>
<p>Online, you could share the movie with 360 people in a few minutes. Given the month, you could easily reach everyone on the planet.</p>
<p>Most importantly, reaching all of those people would not take any of your time. You spend a minute, not a month to get it done.</p>
<p>Scale. it&#8217;s the real issue that stupid people don&#8217;t get. Are you that stupid?</i></p>
<p>So in your world, it&#8217;s ok to be a little bit illegal?  Buddy, your logic tells me that you say this is all ok, it just depends on the scale of it???  So assault isn&#8217;t assault if I only punch you in the face once in awhile instead of outright beating the shit out of you?</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve always shared, whether its been lending a friend a book, giving your best girl a mixtape, or whatever&#8230;. Why is it suddenly a crime just because we&#8217;ve shifted formats? Speaking of format shifting, why is it also now illegal to rip the CD  I paid for onto my mp3 player?    Because of idiot logic like yours that makes the laws.</p>
<p>The tip thing&#8230;&#8230; you entirely missed the point of that. Sad really.</p>
<p>Buddy, you have to pick a side. It&#8217;s either ok by you to share, or it&#8217;s not. Not kinda, sorta, or only if it&#8217;s one person at a time&#8230;.. you either share or you don&#8217;t. Which is it?  Fuck the twisted logic, let&#8217;s talk BLACK AND WHITE. Pick a side.</p>
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		<title>By: Ardvaark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ardvaark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So they offer unlimited bandwidth as opposed to their competitors and you consider that a worse service?

You have a very good sense of business.

Imagine if every business had the same mindset: &quot;why use a USB drive, let&#039;s sell the same floppy disks as our competitors, of course!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So they offer unlimited bandwidth as opposed to their competitors and you consider that a worse service?</p>
<p>You have a very good sense of business.</p>
<p>Imagine if every business had the same mindset: &#8220;why use a USB drive, let&#8217;s sell the same floppy disks as our competitors, of course!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ardvaark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ardvaark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Bobmail

There you go again with misleading affirmations.
First of all, as others have said, scope doesn&#039;t matter. What matters though is that I can share with whoever wants me to share an item with them. Guess what? its just as online. I don&#039;t share it with the world, I share it with whoever wants me to share said item (by that someone getting the torrent for example). It&#039;s very unlikely that the whole world would want the same thing (and it would also be awfully boring) the difference is anyone can ask me to share that something regardless of where they are.

Also one important thing, since when do I have to watch a movie I&#039;m sharing with someone offline? I can, but do i HAVE to? certainly not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bobmail</p>
<p>There you go again with misleading affirmations.<br />
First of all, as others have said, scope doesn&#8217;t matter. What matters though is that I can share with whoever wants me to share an item with them. Guess what? its just as online. I don&#8217;t share it with the world, I share it with whoever wants me to share said item (by that someone getting the torrent for example). It&#8217;s very unlikely that the whole world would want the same thing (and it would also be awfully boring) the difference is anyone can ask me to share that something regardless of where they are.</p>
<p>Also one important thing, since when do I have to watch a movie I&#8217;m sharing with someone offline? I can, but do i HAVE to? certainly not.</p>
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		<title>By: Lest-Starve-Them</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lest-Starve-Them]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2012 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stop debating if the wolf is right killing hens in the hen house ! This is ludicrous. 

You do not resonate with wolves. You shot them or you starve them...

So start starving them: The last time I bought an &#039;intellectual property&#039; was in 2001 !

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop debating if the wolf is right killing hens in the hen house ! This is ludicrous. </p>
<p>You do not resonate with wolves. You shot them or you starve them&#8230;</p>
<p>So start starving them: The last time I bought an &#8216;intellectual property&#8217; was in 2001 !</p>
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