Canadian ISP is throttling BitTorrent traffic
Written by Ernesto on December 21, 2005The Canadian ISP “Rogers” has started to kill all BitTorrent traffic on their network. Rogers uses a bit-shaping application to throttle the traffic that is generated by BitTorrent and other p2p applications.
They are still finetuning the bit-shaping application, and apparently they had some problems configuring it the right way. Last month they were even blocking podcasts and songs from the Itunes music store.
It’s ironic that the same ISP advertises with the slogan:
“for sharing large files and much more”
Well, there’s not much to share when they block all p2p traffic including the best protocol to share large files (BitTorrent). You can can read more about this over here.
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The best way to deal with this problem is for the majority of customers to start calling customer service department. And keep calling. If everyone keeps hammering them for days in a row, they will back down. When I say hammer, the phone system needs to have a 30 minute wait time constantly.
Cogeco is where it’s at. nuff said.
Stop talking about this and find the work-around (I did, I am with Roger’s and everything is fine).
I don’t think this is a human rights issue. Just switch to another company if you don’t like it.
And stop attracting attention unnecessarily to BT.
Wow, I’m truly surprised! This actually confirms what I am seeing on my end; disgustingly slow Torrent downloads around 1-5k/sec. Why not use a 2400baud modem and dial up then?!?
Not only that, but to my regret a few months ago, Rogers went ahead and CANCELLED NNTP (news groups). Did anyone know this?!?! I asked when did they do this, and why was I not notified as a customer, to which they said “we sent all customers an e-mail.” If their e-mail service was not so bad, I would actually use it and found this message. Further in this discussion with the rep, I asked if there would be a reduction in price, and of course they said no.
Did anyone know about this service cut as well? News is a wonderful resource for file sharing movies, games, apps, pics, music etc, and I am very disappointed it was taken away.
I say again what everyone is asking, how can they shamelessly promote highspeed transfers and large file sharing when its becoming nearly impossible to use any means to do this?
The things that bothers me most, is the loose “contract” they have in their favor, to change anything they want, and also the lack of options for ISPs. If there were more competition, I think they would offer better service. Moreover, the general public has no recourse or resources to take on a huge company like Rogers on a legal level to get anything changed. Helpless.
Pillick, the email was in fact sent out to everyone. (I got it and was very sad :()
Simply http://www.ihaterogers.ca/ - I moved from Rogers years ago, and have been happy since.
You know what… I happen to have this and similar conversations every-so-often… it just makes me sick!
They continuously find ways of limiting what users do… took down newsgroups, b/w limits, throttling and you know what solution I always come up with?
Well… they do it because they can!
Face it… they’re practically a monopoly in the communications area. Theres nothing you can do about it.
Funny thing is when a friend of mine tried to unsubscribe they told him they each house is only allowed to unsubscribe twice to their service and once they go over that limit they will stop offering service to your house unless you can prove you’re a new owner or something. Geez this is the only company that can do such BS.
Simply put, what they’re saying is; We own you. We can do whatever we want… so what if a few hundread ppl leave us… we have a couple million other clients that have no other choice. Go on… leave but you’ll be back.
We cant really do anything about it… but if someone can organize something huge im sure more than half their customer base will support the cause.
-X
I got fed up with rogers BS and have cancelled Internet, home phone, am looking for a new TV signal provider, then will cancel rogers cell phones. Theres a constant stream of cutbacks and price increaces from Rogers. I am moving on. Found a cool littl DSL company i the area…3mb line for 30 a month ..no caps.
Rogers can piss-off.
Just use port 1720. It’s the same port
they use for VOIP. So if they start throddling that port QOS will be affected on the VOIP.
My speeds increase once I changed my torrent client.
the solution is easy, use Azereus 2.4.0.0 and follow these instructions to enable Transport Encryption:
http://azureus.aelitis.com/wiki/index.php/Avoid_traffic_shaping
it works. i moved to an area thats restricted and BT is freakin slow, now my speeds are 1-2Mbit with 8 torrents downloading.. back to normal!
quit complaining. your lame torrents suck up sick amounts of bandwidth, and given the shared nature of coax broadband between the customer and the HFC receiever there is only limited pipe. what gives you the right to hinder other users with your lame wasted bandwidth just so you can have the latest pirated release? If you want to do whatever you please - pay to have an optical line installed.
“If you want to do whatever you please - pay to have an optical line installed.”
I would settle for it doing what they advertised - being faster than DSL. Heywood, people are complaining because they signed up for what they thought was high speed only to find out later that they are paying money for something they can’t use. It bullshit that they say it’s 3.0 MB or higher but cut you off for the stuff you really need it for. Phuck Rogers!
Bell now offers naked dsl (no home phone needed) at no extra charge and I got $30 a month no contract for leaving Rogers. Torrents once again faster but more importantly my VOIP now works well. Bye Uncle Ted!
the best
Hi For about the past 5 years, I’ve run a Direct Connect protocol filesharing hub. One day it basically died as connections to it could not be held. Way to go Rogers. :(
They advertise the ‘Extreme’ modem for faster downloads and make other claims they cannot or chose not to meet.
Here’s how I see it after being in the IT field for about 33 years:
1. Rogers now sucks.
2. The Rogers system just doesn’t cut it anymore. Cutting back the heavy usage customers is cheaper and faster than upgrading their equipment and they couldn’t care less if a heavy user quits their services.
3. Rogers sucks.
4. If Rogers makes claims of performance that are not the same as their EULA (or whatever they called it) then I hope a Class Action lawsuit burns their ass!
5. Rogers still sucks.
What about the contractors that work for rogers..one i reported for stalking, and another got so violent with me my husband had to get between us to stop him. we have done nothing wrong, and pay every month..they were acting like we were criminals, and harassing us for paying our bill!
God damn rogers sucks! I couldn’t agree more with the people saying there should be some kind of class-action lawsuit launched against them…. When the focus of all your advertising is “We’re the best for downloading large files” and then you block the #1 source of getting said files… Well if that isn’t misrepresentaion and false advertising then i don’t know what is! Never mind the fact that if you claim a service is XXXX k/s Up or down.. then it should be that speed 24/7… FOR ALL PROGRAMS!
It all comes down to what many have also posted here before… Rogers simply hasn’t bought enough bandwidth to meet the demands of their userbase… AND THEY KNOW IT! … They also know the biggest consumer of all that bandwith is a relatively small percentage of users that use P2P heavily. So they’ll gladly do everything they can to drive those users off… it’s cheaper to do that than buy the amount of bandwidth to cover that kind of usage. So it’s really no use to complain to rogers about it.. They’ll just happily hide behind that Bogus EULA they shoved down everyone’s throat. And if you don’t like it then tough beans… “Them’s the rules!”
Personally i think the best way to fight back is not to quit rogers.. but exactly what’s happening within the bittorent community right now.— Clients with packet encryption to disguise P2P Traffic… Maybe eventually they will learn that for every attempt they make to “throttle” or “traffic shape” users will eventually find away around it. there is no way they will ever find a way of sniffing out P2P traffic that users won’t find a way to defeat… Not with a handful of lame-ass rogers techs VS millions of bittorent users!
For now I’ve settled on using the new Utorrent client (1.5) with a random port, Forced encryption, and legacy connections enabled. My speeds have been great and i’m making sure to download more than ever! :D just to stick it to them! :)
Take that and your stupid EULA and shove it You-know-where Ted…..
lol @ you ppl … I am on the rogers extreme package and no word of a lie i max out at 700 kb/s on all my torrents i dont if it has to do with the port im using or that it is a private tracker or what but they have not throttled me whatsoever and i am completly satified with rogers so far ..
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