we’re paying more for high speed then 10 years ago… i remember rogers was $45 and was faster then it is now… its brutal

Why are they targeting just p2p websites, why not target all illegal internet activities such as child pornography. If Rogers wants to act as an internet cop they can’t just pick and chose their battles.

This will slowly undermine the net neutrality concept in which the internet was founded on.

So what my problem is, when you pay for unlimited usage (no bandwidth cap) for 5Mb service, you technically are being told that everyone who bought this can, at the same time, download at around 540KB/s without stopping constantly all day all night forever. If not then they are overselling their network and lying to their customers. Even if it’s not MNSI’s fault that Bell is caping bandwidth on common BitTorrent ports, it still affects the end user.

Whenever a game patch is out, or when SP2 for xp came out, and SP1 for Vista and SP3 for XP comes out, I will only download via torrent, because unlike dedicated file servers which can only handle a couple of hundred users at a time, torrents actually get faster. So yeah, everybody wins except ISP’s who have to pay for that bandwidth.

This is, to put it gently, totally fucking bullshit.

Last night, I used my Extreme connection to download something on uTorrent, and reached a 1.0MB/s download speed.

Do some research folks.

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If you’ll read three posts back you’ll see my initial post.

Still with TekSavvy and STILL happy with them.

I just hope they don’t get too high on themselves (like Rogers did) and start playing games ’cause when they do….it’s Hasta La Vista!

But for now….two thumbs up!

I’m not new to this post. I’ve come across it a few times actually but never posted (until now that is).

I just thought I’d let you know about a website I came across by accident a while back, http://www.canadianisp.com.

In a nutshell it’s a website that’ll help you find alternative ISP’s in Canada (duh!)

I found one internet service provider, TekSavvy Solutions Inc. that doesn’t seem to port throttle or traffic shape.

It’s an ADSL provider, so I had to buy one of their modems (as I only had the cable modem I bought from Rogers). The mode was about….$100 plus $10 for shipping and a $20 setup fee (which if I understand correctly, will be reapplied if I ever move).

Overall the speed is ALRIGHT (about 3 Mbps) for where I live ; Brampton, Ontario. Nothing campared to the 8 Mbps I was getting with Rogers but at least I can download without having to deal with traffic shaping tactics. ;p

For now, http://www.teksavvy.com is alright. Check it out, you might find it a reasonable alternative. I’m happy with it thus far. My only beef really is that YouTube videos are somewhat choppy but you give, you take.

Cheers.

traffic management is what they said to me today. What a crock. I hear Telus internet might be coming here soon. That’s what I had in Vancouver and if they come, i’m getting it.

I just spoke with a woman named “Deborah Brann” who is the Manager of Customer Service at Bell Sympatico in Ottawa.

She confirmed to me that Bell is, in fact, throttling the network “at peak times”. She claims this is within the “Terms and Conditions” of the Bell Sympatico agreement. She said the promise is that the connection will be somewhere above 1Mbps, generally.

What is most interesting is her statement that there has been a 40% increase in use of Sympatico since August 2007 and “no ISP could handle an increase like that.”

Then, why advertise what you can’t deliver, I asked?

No answer to that one.

I started a group on Facebook to protest this – Let’s All Sue Bell Sympatico For Deceptive Marketing!

I have noticed that between 3pm and 12am is the slowest times for dling.

All p2p are being throttled; torrents, limewire, kazaa, and I’ve of slow speeds for vpn too.

Rogers’ motivation in limiting bandwidth and torrent use has nothing to do with either infrastructure or piracy concerns (directly). They are doing it to protect the future of their cable television business.

With the internet and digital broadcasting, barriers are being broken. Rogers can no longer rely on the CRTC to act as their guardian as the internet exposes them to competition from the States and elsewhere and modes of delivery totally removed from the constraints of the physical cable they have in the ground. As Rogers looks into the future, they see that the stranglehold they have on living room entertainment is quickly disappearing and that the only thing standing in the way of people using the internet as their main entertainment source is social convention. In order to prevent the internet from becoming the main provider of entertainment they limit the ability of people to access that kind of data (torrents). If they were to overtly censor anything, the Canadian public would be up in arms, but they can subtly state that it’s in the interest of preserving their infrastructure and ensuring quality of service to all its users. Even if they tell you it’s a cash grab, you will be pissed but you will believe it. They would prefer upset customers who think no further about the issue, because if I am correct, they are a company in a position of market dominance abusing power in order to protect their interests. And that is illegal.

Sure they have damaged their reputation as an internet service provider, but that is of little concern to them, since their real interest is in protecting their television cable assets. They don’t want to give you a way around paying for their cable content, which is a larger source of revenue, has few (if any) real competitors in most of its markets and is protected by Canadian content regulation. It is not a coincidence that Rogers and Shaw have been perhaps the most aggressive ISP in terms of bit-shaping.

Just my two cents.

My, aren’t you being rather naive?
They’re throttlingbecause they don’t want to invest in infrasructure (and because they made some promises they didn’t really mean). In some circumtances they’ve even admitted this.

The RIAA/MPAA (in europe aka MAFIAA) have some interesting perspectives on whoat’s “legal” and the balance between copyright holders vs fair use (note for example, the recent testimony of Sony’s lawyer in court, that making back-up copies and downloading songs that you already own both qualigy as theft http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071002-sony-bmgs-chief-anti-piracy-lawyer-copying-music-you-own-is-stealing.html)

And where do you get this “99% of bit torrent traffic is piracy” figure. From the **AA crowd? (And again, under what definition of so-called “piracy”).

Not to mention that those whove actually tried, find that free downloads actually increases income (try googling Janis Ian’s “Internet debacle” for some good examples, as far back as 2002). Also check out Nine Inch Nails current foray into “pay what you feel like” download offering.

Your remarks, while arguably logical and principled, are based on highly questionable assumptions and disprovable facts. The prevelence of these ulyimately bogus arguements says more about the PR and lobbying powers of huge corporations than about reality. I highly recommend doing some in-depth research on this subject — it’s a real eye-opener!

(PS: for what it’s worth, I have never, ever downloaded infringing music or software. I do occassionally download freely-offered, legal music (and sometimes bought CD’s as aconsequence) and open-source software)

Another thing to note especially by those whose sharing ratios are hurting. Downloading is not illegal in canada but uploading is, and bit torrent promotes uploading through sharing ratios etc.

I still download the occasional thing myself but complaining about a service being restricted is pointless.

Big Companies like Rogers do this because theres illegal activity going on. And don’t give me that crap about open source and bit torrent because 99% of bit torrent traffic is piracy.

You can whine and complain all you like or you can move on to the next file sharing epidemic, cause it’s not legal and you can’t expect it to be offered.

What do you think about Apple Iogo? >:)

“# No speed bumps in sight when downloading large files and software updates
# Enhanced speed gives you the edge you need to dominate online games
# Multimedia mastery �€” blaze through video and music downloads ”

Seems shaping is all about invalidating their own selling point. Isn’t that called false advertising?

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EVERYBODY CANCLE ROGERS INTERNET ON MAY THE 31!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Has anyone run into this problem?

Anyone know if (and how) I can somehow port-forward Hotspot? If this is even possible, will it fix the non-connect problems I am having

Any advice would be appreciated….[/quote]

I’ve been using Hotspot Shield for a few weeks and it’s been working great against the throttling up until 2 days ago now all i get is an authorization failure and then it disconnects. Don’t know how to fix it and i’m pretty bummed i think Ted caught on to it…but who knows.

Has anyone run into this problem?

Anyone know if (and how) I can somehow port-forward Hotspot? If this is even possible, will it fix the non-connect problems I am having

Any advice would be appreciated….