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By: CNN: Inauguration P2P Stream a Success, Despite Backlash « NewTeeVee

CNN: Inauguration P2P Stream a Success, Despite Backlash « NewTeeVee — Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:17:12 +0000

[...] Adobe’s Flash player, a fact that was widely known within the industry but only received very little coverage. Until yesterday, that is, when Windows Secrets suddenly came out blasting the network for [...]

By: Cox Plans to Throttle, mLabs to the Rescue : Easy Idiot - get better knowledge

Cox Plans to Throttle, mLabs to the Rescue : Easy Idiot - get better knowledge — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:45:20 +0000

[...] debate in DC, it apparently isn’t aware of current events like the inauguration — an event broadcast over the Internet by CNN using P2P technology. It’s almost like these cable networks can’t help themselves but to step in [...]

By: Presidential Inauguration Live Streaming - Landmark Event or Bust? Part II : TechMediaTalk

Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:05:16 +0000

[...] CNN Uses P2P Plugin for its Live Stream [...]

By: Jensa

Jensa — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:18:21 +0000

http://www.flashmagazine.com/news/detail/plugins_for_the...target=”_blank”>http://www.flashmagazine.com/news/detail/plugins_…

By: Jensa

Jensa — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:17:41 +0000

Heya. I did some research about Octoshape some time ago: http://www.flashmagazine.com/news/detail/plugins_for_the...target=”_blank”>http://http://www.flashmagazine.com/news/detail/plugins_for_the...andgot a comment from Adobe regarding their participation.

By: MusikManiacs

MusikManiacs — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:28:20 +0000

even CNN is using P2p..great!

By: Lean on your peers « SUFFICIENTLY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY

Lean on your peers « SUFFICIENTLY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:27:12 +0000

[...] event and achievement was aided by the much maligned peer-to-peer technology. TorrentFreak explained that CNN was able to provide video to this many simultaneous viewers by using P2P file sharing [...]

By: Monday Morning Head-start [Software Business Links] « OMS SafeHarbor

Monday Morning Head-start [Software Business Links] « OMS SafeHarbor — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:55:01 +0000

[...] CNN uses P2P Technology in Streams [...]

By: Izkata

Izkata — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:32:22 +0000

…And I have to wonder what makes you think that.

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:59:07 +0000

Doesn't matter, Linux users don't watch CNN.

By: CNN Uses P2P Plugin for its Live Stream | Online Net Meeting

CNN Uses P2P Plugin for its Live Stream | Online Net Meeting — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:43:03 +0000

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By: ThePlaz

ThePlaz — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:03:03 +0000

I was watching the CNN stream at 12 on Tue and the site was dog slow and the video even stopped. I did not know it was P2P and it going down with everyone watching is not was P2P is suppose to do. Plus before I got to watch it I was put in a short queue.

By: Izkata

Izkata — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 18:04:47 +0000

One down, any Linux users?

By: Dinni

Dinni — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:49:31 +0000

P2P works only with many ppl online.. http://sreedinesh.blogspot.com

By: kholt

kholt — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:45:34 +0000

Mac OS 10.5 worked like a charm

By: Izkata

Izkata — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:27:07 +0000

So, does that addon work on operating systems besides Windows? If it was pure flash, there'd be nothing to install, but since there was…

By: dxtr

dxtr — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:49:39 +0000

YAY! p2p is finally used by a major media company. I guess this is the kind of positive attention that p2p finally needs. It has always been criticized as the biggest source of piracy. http://stuckinframes.blogspot.com

By: mister_playboy

mister_playboy — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:32:25 +0000

I just tried that site (Hulu) out this morning and I"m pretty impressed with it. Very nice.

By: Múltiples usos del protocolo P2P » eConectados

Múltiples usos del protocolo P2P » eConectados — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:18:28 +0000

[...] por usar algo legal. O el otro día estaba viendo el discurso de Obama en la CNN. Hoy sabemos que parcialmente funcionó mediante P2P (un plugin de Flash). Podría estar viendo vídeos con Vuze (Azureus) y usar el protocolo P2P de [...]

By: Ralph Thomas

Ralph Thomas — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:08:07 +0000

LOL, way to go CNN! You Rock!

RT
http://www.privacy-tools.net.tc

By: GIUG

GIUG — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:15:06 +0000

old news: what about p2p programs like TVU, sOPCAST ETC.???

By: nerdd.net | news and opinion

nerdd.net | news and opinion — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 11:03:55 +0000

CNN Uses P2P Plugin for its Live Stream | nerdd.net…

\r\nThis week, millions of people watched Obamas inauguration on the Internet through one of the man…

By: nbucking

nbucking — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:20:03 +0000

That would be great and all if you didn't have to be in the U.S. to use it. Hulu says they are trying to go international but the evil (Seriously evil) copyrights have kept the rest of the world (including US armed forces serving abroad on US bases) from enjoying this service. I am currently living in Korea and the only way I can watch my favorite shows is to either hope they come on AFN or download from EZTV. I hate this whole thing with the MAFIAA and their strangle hold on the media. I hope that the stigma of sharing will go away eventually. I do not appreciate being labeled a pirate while my only way to keep connected is considered illegal. I really wish lawmakers would get their heads out of their asses and make legal precedent saying otherwise.

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:56:50 +0000

Actually most implentations of P2P are very easy to stop – just for the point of arguing with your comment of "impossible". Off the top of my head all an ISP would have ot do is provide an extremely limited range of ports that can be used and see you later Bittorrent.

Not that ISP's do this but just saying…

As for your second point: this is rather obvious isn't it?

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:53:18 +0000

"Despite the fact that there are thousands of legitimate uses for peer-to-peer technology, most businesses are not keen on using it because of the negative associated with it."

I find this statement hard to believe – but if somebody wants to provide some supporting evidence that businesses won't move to P2P based applications due to negative connotations please do. This is purely my assessment bases on what I have studied in the past and from talking to people that are at the "coalface".

Businesses are conservative in the way that they operate – essentially it doesn't make sense to take unnecessary risks. Risk boils down to how much money they make in the end.

If a function of a business can be done using a tried, proven and cost-effective method or technology most businesses will choose to use it over another method of carrying out the function that is more cost effective but is not proven or has a risk of not working as intended. This is especially true of IT functions: businesses have lost billions of dollars from trying new ways of doing things that involve IT: whether it's at the level of their own employees productivity using interfaces, customer satisfaction or in the case of many propietary systems even carrying out the core functionality it was designed for. One example of what I'm saying is that the vast majority of businesses do not use Linux for their employee's desktops despite the fact that Linux is now amply capable of providing functions at least as good as Windows for a fraction of the cost.

In the business world large IT projects have a reputation of not living up to expectations and what the client paid for: back whn I was doing Comp. Sci. I learned the rather staggering statistic that 56% of IT projects were considered failures because they either didn't deliver what they promised or required large amounts of extra money to make them perform as they were meant to.

I suspect this is the reason much more than any negative connotation associated with P2P in general. If say MS is capable of paying for servers and bandwidth that deliver data to end users it is a risk to then turn to a P2P platform to try and achieve the same outcome.

By: nka

nka — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:42:54 +0000

@Ghost: Hulu already does this, and TV.com will soon follow suit.

By: Jasson

Jasson — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 08:19:33 +0000

Nba.com also uses Octoshape to stream live games in their Nba Broadband package.

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:11:11 +0000

"With the current upload speeds and the throttling efforts by ISPs, this still only works in theory. Nevertheless, since more and more TV is being watched online, filesharing technology is the future."

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The p2p-technology is impossible to stop, and this is the future… Each time more and more people are using it, as consequence of the benefits of a significant reduction in bandwidth costs, and also as an excellent, cheap and reliable distribution medium; accessible to the masses.

The reality and the facts is that in a near future, the only ISPs that will be able to compete will be those that offer reliable, very fast (upload and download) and stable connections to its customers; without ridiculous caps, without restrictions… In a few words, ISPs that will be able to satisfy these exigencies.

By: Dingo_RG

Dingo_RG — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:09:30 +0000

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The reality and the facts is that in a near future, the only ISPs that will be able to compete will be those that will offer reliable, very fast (upload and download) and stable connections to its customers; without ridiculous caps, without restrictions… In a few words, ISPs that will be able to satisfy these exigencies.

By: The Technology Blog: CNN Uses P2P Plugin for its Live Stream

The Technology Blog: CNN Uses P2P Plugin for its Live Stream — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:32:36 +0000

[...] a peak of more than a million simultaneous viewers and also one that was using P2P technology.From:http://torrentfreak.com/cnn-uses-p2p-plugin-for-its-live-stream-090124/ Posted by Makin at [...]

By: [TorrentFreak] CNN Uses P2P Plugin for its Live Stream - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:53:07 +0000

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By: Mystia

Mystia — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:45:27 +0000

filesharing technology is the future
And the RIAA and the MPAA are the past. Dan Glickman and Mitch Bainwol are the past.
Down with the MPAA and RIAA! Down with the old order! Up with the new!

By: Jesús Amieiro

Jesús Amieiro — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:10:22 +0000

[...] TorrentFreak vía [...]

By: DaronK

DaronK — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:50:41 +0000

Wonderful news!

opposite with the rest of England…..

By: DaronK

DaronK — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 03:50:30 +0000

Wonderful news!

opposite with the reset of England…..

By: TheKhaos24

TheKhaos24 — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 00:31:57 +0000

This is quit interesting Thanks TorrentFreak

By: dollop

dollop — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:51:55 +0000

First….oh bollox….shouldnt of had a dump first….sorry….epic fail…lol…

By: EZEE

EZEE — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:12:29 +0000

"..filesharing technology is the future.." and those who oppose it (**aa) are going to be saying hello the the Dodo pretty soon.

I think these past few years will be looked upon as the dark ages of the internet coming of age, instead of embracing it and working with the technology they chose to fight it with all they had, catching a few poor souls as "example makers" and not even making a dent overall, on the other hand they could have been known as the people who made a huge POSITIVE impact with the resources they had (and still have) on hand.

Really a pity, history has shown us time and again, the wrong people have the money and power to really push change, but choose instead to just push their greedy agendas.

http://www.eZee.se

By: EZEE

EZEE — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:11:53 +0000

"..filesharing technology is the future.." and those who oppose it (**aa) are going to be saying hello the the Dodo pretty soon.

I think these past few years will be looked upon as the dark ages of the internet coming of age, instead of embracing it and working with the technology they chose to fight it with all they had, catching a few poor souls as "example makers" and not even making a dent overall, on the other hand they could have been known as the people who made a huge impact with the resources they had (and still have) on hand.

Really a pity, history has shown us time and again, the wrong people have the money and power to really push change, but choose instead to just push their greedy agendas.

http://www.eZee.se

By: Ghost

Ghost — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:07:40 +0000

Like I said in an earlier post, watching TV online IS the future (partly because of the digital switch). It will be fun to watch the companies choose to either stream the shows themselves through bittorrent, or rather allow pirates to do it for them. Personally, I wouldnt mind seeing a few ads in a live stream vs no ads in a cut version from a torrent site. http://bluehumor.org

By: Jim Guardian

Jim Guardian — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 23:05:01 +0000

It seems they've been using Octoshape for quite I while, I think I noticed a few weeks ago. It's a closed technology, but it was very convenient to install, no need to even restart the browser.

By: Ben Barren - Confessions of a Mad Man » sunday demons

Ben Barren - Confessions of a Mad Man » sunday demons — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:39:29 +0000

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