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		<title>By: Celesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>illegal. i love swedish law.</description>
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		<title>By: snarf's status on Sunday, 21-Jun-09 20:18:54 UTC - Identi.ca</title>
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		<dc:creator>snarf's status on Sunday, 21-Jun-09 20:18:54 UTC - Identi.ca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Use-https-Dummy</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/collecting-ip-addresses-illegal-sweden-090618/#comment-571735</link>
		<dc:creator>Use-https-Dummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Court has ruled that collecting and storing IP addresses is in violation of the Personal Data Act.&quot;

@46 Zaphod 
 &quot;Uhhh, this has a very chilling effect…

What about private parties that have, and use anti-anti-p2p blocklists for use with peer guardian (or firewall rules) on their computers?

Does this make it illegal to have IP data for private use?&quot;

NOT in the least,how could it if you follow the ruling it cleary involved the USE of personal data.

the question you need to ask is &quot;how do you equate personal data to a website IP&quot; ?

you dont and cant is the answer, Now it may be that there are web sites (in the darknets of the comercial sector for profit businesses) that are collecting the IP addresses of peoples personal IPs and that would be covered by the data protection acts of the EU countrys OC, but not the other way around.

 there is after all no &quot;business data protection act&quot; legislation, as they are not people, only people inside them hiding behind the corporate paper, that make their choices to spy, wiretap, collect and process your personal data for commercial profit etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Court has ruled that collecting and storing IP addresses is in violation of the Personal Data Act.&#8221;</p>
<p>@46 Zaphod<br />
 &#8220;Uhhh, this has a very chilling effect…</p>
<p>What about private parties that have, and use anti-anti-p2p blocklists for use with peer guardian (or firewall rules) on their computers?</p>
<p>Does this make it illegal to have IP data for private use?&#8221;</p>
<p>NOT in the least,how could it if you follow the ruling it cleary involved the USE of personal data.</p>
<p>the question you need to ask is &#8220;how do you equate personal data to a website IP&#8221; ?</p>
<p>you dont and cant is the answer, Now it may be that there are web sites (in the darknets of the comercial sector for profit businesses) that are collecting the IP addresses of peoples personal IPs and that would be covered by the data protection acts of the EU countrys OC, but not the other way around.</p>
<p> there is after all no &#8220;business data protection act&#8221; legislation, as they are not people, only people inside them hiding behind the corporate paper, that make their choices to spy, wiretap, collect and process your personal data for commercial profit etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Zaphod</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zaphod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhhh, this has a very chilling effect...

What about private parties that have, and use anti-anti-p2p blocklists for use with peer guardian (or firewall rules) on their computers?

Does this make it illegal to have IP data for private use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhhh, this has a very chilling effect&#8230;</p>
<p>What about private parties that have, and use anti-anti-p2p blocklists for use with peer guardian (or firewall rules) on their computers?</p>
<p>Does this make it illegal to have IP data for private use?</p>
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		<title>By: frasnasicio</title>
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		<dc:creator>frasnasicio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Entertane.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Entertane.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@42

Don&#039;t you mean Pirate Pontén?</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t you mean Pirate Pontén?</p>
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		<title>By: Turbis</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 05:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Henrik Pontén is now celebrating in joy that he can still play cop.
Damn nutjob, telling he got warrents for peoples arrests when he has no rights to do so at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Henrik Pontén is now celebrating in joy that he can still play cop.<br />
Damn nutjob, telling he got warrents for peoples arrests when he has no rights to do so at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Swedish Pirate Party’s Rick Falkvinge writes that a paragraph in IPRED specifically says that you don’t need to be granted exception from the Personal Data Act in order to retrieve the names of IP address holders from ISPs.
Translated: Antipiratbyrån can do as they please…&quot;

Even if that was the case it won&#039;t help Antipiratbyrån. Swedish ISP&#039;s are not government agencies and the law also applies to them so they are not supposed to have the information MAFIAA wants.
Several Swedish ISP&#039;s are flat out refusing to store any traffic-information as they say the Personal Data Act specifically prohibits them from doing so without a court-order .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Swedish Pirate Party’s Rick Falkvinge writes that a paragraph in IPRED specifically says that you don’t need to be granted exception from the Personal Data Act in order to retrieve the names of IP address holders from ISPs.<br />
Translated: Antipiratbyrån can do as they please…&#8221;</p>
<p>Even if that was the case it won&#8217;t help Antipiratbyrån. Swedish ISP&#8217;s are not government agencies and the law also applies to them so they are not supposed to have the information MAFIAA wants.<br />
Several Swedish ISP&#8217;s are flat out refusing to store any traffic-information as they say the Personal Data Act specifically prohibits them from doing so without a court-order .</p>
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		<title>By: manky goes to bollywood</title>
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		<dc:creator>manky goes to bollywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool story bro :)  </description>
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		<title>By: neostyles</title>
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		<dc:creator>neostyles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My answer can be found here
http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html

?Copying others works is NOT a natural right. According to his own definition of &quot;rights&quot;, our ownConstitution would say that you can copy other people&#039;s things, which couldn&#039;t be further from the truth.  The Berne convention (something which probably 2% of pirate are probabalyaware of) established that holding the EXCLUSIVE rights over a creative work is right and over 170 countries are bound by it.

Hence copyRIGHT. It&#039;s in the name.
 
?Almost every creative work is automatically protected by copyright. It doesn&#039;t have to be granted, which suggests, that contrary to his subjective ranting, that copyright is right, not a privilege that must be granted.

?The judge won&#039;t care if you tell them that copyright is a &quot;privelage&quot; not a &quot;right.&quot;  Its just semantics.

?Bottom line he seems to be trying to skirt around is that copyright is part of the law and if you break it, you will be stuck with the consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My answer can be found here<br />
<a href="http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html</a></p>
<p>?Copying others works is NOT a natural right. According to his own definition of &#8220;rights&#8221;, our ownConstitution would say that you can copy other people&#8217;s things, which couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth.  The Berne convention (something which probably 2% of pirate are probabalyaware of) established that holding the EXCLUSIVE rights over a creative work is right and over 170 countries are bound by it.</p>
<p>Hence copyRIGHT. It&#8217;s in the name.</p>
<p>?Almost every creative work is automatically protected by copyright. It doesn&#8217;t have to be granted, which suggests, that contrary to his subjective ranting, that copyright is right, not a privilege that must be granted.</p>
<p>?The judge won&#8217;t care if you tell them that copyright is a &#8220;privelage&#8221; not a &#8220;right.&#8221;  Its just semantics.</p>
<p>?Bottom line he seems to be trying to skirt around is that copyright is part of the law and if you break it, you will be stuck with the consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: renaissance chambara alias Ged Carroll - Links of the day</title>
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		<dc:creator>renaissance chambara alias Ged Carroll - Links of the day</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 19:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@neostyles

    If you are not just an industry paid troll i would like to see your take on the arguments made on this site http://www.digitalproductions.co.uk/index.php?id=171

    as he does a much better job of explaining what i think than i can, maybe you might learn something ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@neostyles</p>
<p>    If you are not just an industry paid troll i would like to see your take on the arguments made on this site <a href="http://www.digitalproductions.co.uk/index.php?id=171" rel="nofollow">http://www.digitalproductions.co.uk/index.php?id=171</a></p>
<p>    as he does a much better job of explaining what i think than i can, maybe you might learn something ;)</p>
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		<title>By: ExWaffler</title>
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		<dc:creator>ExWaffler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Stated Many Times Before, They Are Wasting Time And Money Fighting Piracy. It Would Probley Be Cheaper To Compete...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Stated Many Times Before, They Are Wasting Time And Money Fighting Piracy. It Would Probley Be Cheaper To Compete&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fan of TF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fan of TF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok! the cat is out.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually, they are alot like the mafiia.&quot;

AHAHAHAAHAHA!!

The Pirate Bay is like the mafia? The PIRATE BAY is like the mafia?

Ah hah. Let me just say I stand here in awe as I eagerly await more nuggets of wisdom from you. Such as &quot;the ocean is dry&quot; and &quot;the sun is cold&quot;.

&quot;Grow a pair, sweden.&quot;

They did. Have you seen the parliamentry election results? Swedes stood up and said NO to Hollywood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, they are alot like the mafiia.&#8221;</p>
<p>AHAHAHAAHAHA!!</p>
<p>The Pirate Bay is like the mafia? The PIRATE BAY is like the mafia?</p>
<p>Ah hah. Let me just say I stand here in awe as I eagerly await more nuggets of wisdom from you. Such as &#8220;the ocean is dry&#8221; and &#8220;the sun is cold&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Grow a pair, sweden.&#8221;</p>
<p>They did. Have you seen the parliamentry election results? Swedes stood up and said NO to Hollywood.</p>
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		<title>By: TerribleTony</title>
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		<dc:creator>TerribleTony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst the overall effect may be insignificant, it is still a victory! Arrr.</description>
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		<title>By: Pirates &#62; RIAA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pirates &#62; RIAA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IPRED failed

Antipiratbyrå will soon follow, now we just need to make storing of IP addresses illegal in the US.</description>
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<p>Antipiratbyrå will soon follow, now we just need to make storing of IP addresses illegal in the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Use-https-Dummy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Use-https-Dummy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Currently, British inventors are responsible for over half of all the new inventions in the World.
If ever I find my opinion to be that of the majority, I know my opinion is wrong. -- Mark Twain&quot;

neostyle did you forget all the US copyright infringments that have been made for the minor 300+ years your USA has existed against the likes of the Uk and the many EU countrys inventors copyright for US COMMERCIAL PROFIT.

you do understand the difference between a &quot;non profit&quot; end user, and &quot;for commercial profit&quot; infringment dont you @31 neostyle
even in your country ?


ones a tort common law offence.

the other ones a lock you up for a long time if you cant afford a top rated and highly payed lawyer firm to defend you in your country....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Currently, British inventors are responsible for over half of all the new inventions in the World.<br />
If ever I find my opinion to be that of the majority, I know my opinion is wrong. &#8212; Mark Twain&#8221;</p>
<p>neostyle did you forget all the US copyright infringments that have been made for the minor 300+ years your USA has existed against the likes of the Uk and the many EU countrys inventors copyright for US COMMERCIAL PROFIT.</p>
<p>you do understand the difference between a &#8220;non profit&#8221; end user, and &#8220;for commercial profit&#8221; infringment dont you @31 neostyle<br />
even in your country ?</p>
<p>ones a tort common law offence.</p>
<p>the other ones a lock you up for a long time if you cant afford a top rated and highly payed lawyer firm to defend you in your country&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: neostyle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@5 : One might say the same thing about pirates.  Im surprised that sweden&#039;s legal system isn&#039;t giving them the tools they need to put thieves behind bars.

Awhile back, Congress did a report on countries which basically shit on copyright holders.  If I was in charge, Sweden would be one of the first contestants to hit the paper.  For a decade, they have fostered The Pirate Bay&#039;s theft and helped it grow into the world&#039;s biggest digitial crime syndicate.  Actually, they are alot like the mafiia.  Their crimes cost society millions if not billions and then when questioned about it they come up with snarky responce.

Somone in sweden should have realized &quot;hold on, what these people are doing is nothing more than common theft&quot; instead of &quot;wel itz intranetz so dats okay den ^___^&quot;

Grow a pair, sweden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5 : One might say the same thing about pirates.  Im surprised that sweden&#8217;s legal system isn&#8217;t giving them the tools they need to put thieves behind bars.</p>
<p>Awhile back, Congress did a report on countries which basically shit on copyright holders.  If I was in charge, Sweden would be one of the first contestants to hit the paper.  For a decade, they have fostered The Pirate Bay&#8217;s theft and helped it grow into the world&#8217;s biggest digitial crime syndicate.  Actually, they are alot like the mafiia.  Their crimes cost society millions if not billions and then when questioned about it they come up with snarky responce.</p>
<p>Somone in sweden should have realized &#8220;hold on, what these people are doing is nothing more than common theft&#8221; instead of &#8220;wel itz intranetz so dats okay den ^___^&#8221;</p>
<p>Grow a pair, sweden.</p>
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