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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-455628</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOOD!!! Comcast SUCKS!</description>
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		<title>By: OTiS</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-422515</link>
		<dc:creator>OTiS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 04:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for those of you who ASS U ME I was referring to just them take a moment and read the other 140 post on this site. 

I don&#039;t care if a single person on here condones the actions. What was done was illegal. 

Not much to discuss there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for those of you who ASS U ME I was referring to just them take a moment and read the other 140 post on this site. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if a single person on here condones the actions. What was done was illegal. </p>
<p>Not much to discuss there.</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Random Rep</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-418630</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast Random Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH and for the record....
I never once in all the years working in Tech Support...I have NEVER had a SINGLE person call in saying they were having trouble Seeding...never had ANYONE call in saying Comcast is &quot;throttling&quot; or &quot;Sandvining&quot; their service...never had anyone complain about that kind of problem....why is that?  How come if everyone believes this to be a problem with Comcast...that it&#039;s Comcast doing this...How come nobody calls in to complain about it?  Why&#039;s that?  Hmmmm......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH and for the record&#8230;.<br />
I never once in all the years working in Tech Support&#8230;I have NEVER had a SINGLE person call in saying they were having trouble Seeding&#8230;never had ANYONE call in saying Comcast is &#8220;throttling&#8221; or &#8220;Sandvining&#8221; their service&#8230;never had anyone complain about that kind of problem&#8230;.why is that?  How come if everyone believes this to be a problem with Comcast&#8230;that it&#8217;s Comcast doing this&#8230;How come nobody calls in to complain about it?  Why&#8217;s that?  Hmmmm&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Random Rep</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-418614</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast Random Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole Concept of ALL my posts, if you were paying attention, from day 1, from the very first post... the whole reason for posting anything on here...was to get people to realize that Comcast is NOT the reason for every single problem that anyone encounters with their internet...I NEVER said Comcast was God, or that they are completely flawless..NEVER.  I simply stated in a series of posts, that most of these stupid ass Comcast customers on here posting &quot;Comcast Sucks!&quot; really have NO IDEA what the problem is...they just simply blame Comcast. If there ISP was AT&amp;T or DirectTV or whoever...every problem those same people have, they would blame them.  If you only knew...95% of the calls we get EVERYDAY (which on average is about 2000+ per day), are issues with either customer owned Routers (which some of us reps know how to fix anyway...we dont have to fix that for you but we do), or problems with their Computers.  9 times out of 10, there is NO problem with the Internet Service they we provide.  I&#039;ve had customers call me and say &quot;Something is wrong with my Internet...My screen wont turn on&quot;.. Plug their damn screen in and everything is peachy.  

That was the whole reason I started posting on here.  People&#039;s misplaced anger. It&#039;s my job to figure out what is wrong with people&#039;s internet...been doing that everyday for a very long time...I&#039;ve seen it all.  Now granted..in some areas...Comcast is in need of some serious upgrades... but unless you are in South Florida, thats not your area.  And in some areas, they really need to hire better Repair Technicians... cuz the Techs suck in most areas... so see, im not saying that Comcast doesn&#039;t have problems...all I&#039;ve basically been saying is look at your situation, use some common sense before you just blame it all on Comcast.

Oh and if you have to call Tech Support for help....when we troubleshoot your situation and then tell you what is wrong...don&#039;t tell us we are wrong...you called US for help...chances are that its not the FIRST time we&#039;ve seen a problem like yours.  Hell 99% of the time...you can tell me what your computer screen says and I can tell you what the problem is and how to fix it...because I&#039;ve fixed it before.  So keep in mind...when you call US for help....we&#039;re here to help YOU....not the other way around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole Concept of ALL my posts, if you were paying attention, from day 1, from the very first post&#8230; the whole reason for posting anything on here&#8230;was to get people to realize that Comcast is NOT the reason for every single problem that anyone encounters with their internet&#8230;I NEVER said Comcast was God, or that they are completely flawless..NEVER.  I simply stated in a series of posts, that most of these stupid ass Comcast customers on here posting &#8220;Comcast Sucks!&#8221; really have NO IDEA what the problem is&#8230;they just simply blame Comcast. If there ISP was AT&amp;T or DirectTV or whoever&#8230;every problem those same people have, they would blame them.  If you only knew&#8230;95% of the calls we get EVERYDAY (which on average is about 2000+ per day), are issues with either customer owned Routers (which some of us reps know how to fix anyway&#8230;we dont have to fix that for you but we do), or problems with their Computers.  9 times out of 10, there is NO problem with the Internet Service they we provide.  I&#8217;ve had customers call me and say &#8220;Something is wrong with my Internet&#8230;My screen wont turn on&#8221;.. Plug their damn screen in and everything is peachy.  </p>
<p>That was the whole reason I started posting on here.  People&#8217;s misplaced anger. It&#8217;s my job to figure out what is wrong with people&#8217;s internet&#8230;been doing that everyday for a very long time&#8230;I&#8217;ve seen it all.  Now granted..in some areas&#8230;Comcast is in need of some serious upgrades&#8230; but unless you are in South Florida, thats not your area.  And in some areas, they really need to hire better Repair Technicians&#8230; cuz the Techs suck in most areas&#8230; so see, im not saying that Comcast doesn&#8217;t have problems&#8230;all I&#8217;ve basically been saying is look at your situation, use some common sense before you just blame it all on Comcast.</p>
<p>Oh and if you have to call Tech Support for help&#8230;.when we troubleshoot your situation and then tell you what is wrong&#8230;don&#8217;t tell us we are wrong&#8230;you called US for help&#8230;chances are that its not the FIRST time we&#8217;ve seen a problem like yours.  Hell 99% of the time&#8230;you can tell me what your computer screen says and I can tell you what the problem is and how to fix it&#8230;because I&#8217;ve fixed it before.  So keep in mind&#8230;when you call US for help&#8230;.we&#8217;re here to help YOU&#8230;.not the other way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Steal is such a harsh word</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-418193</link>
		<dc:creator>Steal is such a harsh word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharing is good. Ever heard the term?
You know there is a video called &#039;I wouldn&#039;t steal&#039; right that defines sharing as sharing, not stealing, like what the MPAA and RIAA want you to think, and darn, its even from a sizable political party in the EU! Guess it&#039;s not credible, and that we&#039;re all committing crimes when SHARING. (sarcasm)

http://www.savetheinternet.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharing is good. Ever heard the term?<br />
You know there is a video called &#8216;I wouldn&#8217;t steal&#8217; right that defines sharing as sharing, not stealing, like what the MPAA and RIAA want you to think, and darn, its even from a sizable political party in the EU! Guess it&#8217;s not credible, and that we&#8217;re all committing crimes when SHARING. (sarcasm)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: As for ketchup</title>
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		<dc:creator>As for ketchup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its more like they forget your entire order.

Also, I know that the hacking wasn&#039;t related to hating comcast (which I will say AGAIN, cause certain people don&#039;t read the comments!). Emphasis again on me arguing at the comcast rep about them not doing evil, not condoning idiot hackers who have nothing better to do and aren&#039;t even doing it for a cause, and since they are doing it, don&#039;t even know how to cover their tracks.

http://www.savetheinternet.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its more like they forget your entire order.</p>
<p>Also, I know that the hacking wasn&#8217;t related to hating comcast (which I will say AGAIN, cause certain people don&#8217;t read the comments!). Emphasis again on me arguing at the comcast rep about them not doing evil, not condoning idiot hackers who have nothing better to do and aren&#8217;t even doing it for a cause, and since they are doing it, don&#8217;t even know how to cover their tracks.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: I wasn't condoning their action</title>
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		<dc:creator>I wasn't condoning their action</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;d read my posts. I was arguing at the Comcast Rep that his/her claim about Comcast not doing evil was bogus.

I&#039;m actually quite dismayed at it, I thought we&#039;d be better than this (I would say that at least (and I actually oppose hacking, just saying that it would have been better if), if someone hacked, they&#039;d hack their news and maybe insert a message with our plea/argument with a optional click here to learn more about our cause button, while not denying them of any services, that&#039;s all, wouldn&#039;t really harm anyone, or deny anything)
http://www.savetheinternet.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;d read my posts. I was arguing at the Comcast Rep that his/her claim about Comcast not doing evil was bogus.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually quite dismayed at it, I thought we&#8217;d be better than this (I would say that at least (and I actually oppose hacking, just saying that it would have been better if), if someone hacked, they&#8217;d hack their news and maybe insert a message with our plea/argument with a optional click here to learn more about our cause button, while not denying them of any services, that&#8217;s all, wouldn&#8217;t really harm anyone, or deny anything)<br />
<a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: OTiS</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-415455</link>
		<dc:creator>OTiS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hows this for a little common sense. I hear all these idiots saying &quot;they warned them first&quot; and since comcast blew them off the took that to mean they should break the law.

So lets change the model a little bit. You walk by your neighbors house and see his window is open. You call and tell him about it and he tells you to screw off. So the next day you walk by and the window is open again. You figure the guys was a jerk to you and you need to teach him a lesson. So you climb through his window and hang out in his house for a while. Even if you did nothing to the house, the simple fact that you broke the law in spite of someone still means you broke the law. Why is it that people here are trying to make this issue about Comcast? Ok, so they piss people off. Ok, so they don&#039;t have the best customer service. just because McDonald&#039;s forgets your ketchup it doesn&#039;t give you the right to damage or steal from them. 

Anyone who condones the actions of these two idiots really has no place to speak about morals when it comes to how Comcast conducts business. if you pirate or steal software etc. You also have no real place to speak about the morals of Comcast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hows this for a little common sense. I hear all these idiots saying &#8220;they warned them first&#8221; and since comcast blew them off the took that to mean they should break the law.</p>
<p>So lets change the model a little bit. You walk by your neighbors house and see his window is open. You call and tell him about it and he tells you to screw off. So the next day you walk by and the window is open again. You figure the guys was a jerk to you and you need to teach him a lesson. So you climb through his window and hang out in his house for a while. Even if you did nothing to the house, the simple fact that you broke the law in spite of someone still means you broke the law. Why is it that people here are trying to make this issue about Comcast? Ok, so they piss people off. Ok, so they don&#8217;t have the best customer service. just because McDonald&#8217;s forgets your ketchup it doesn&#8217;t give you the right to damage or steal from them. </p>
<p>Anyone who condones the actions of these two idiots really has no place to speak about morals when it comes to how Comcast conducts business. if you pirate or steal software etc. You also have no real place to speak about the morals of Comcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Hacked in BitTorrent Throttling Payback?&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comcast Hacked in BitTorrent Throttling Payback?&#160;at IDTorrent Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Really.....good to see a concession</title>
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		<dc:creator>Really.....good to see a concession</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, may I ask, was with the &quot;if the speed&#039;s horribly slow, its the customer&#039;s end&#039;s fault&quot; attitude? Isn&#039;t that strongly implying that the reason we get &quot;random drops&quot; from &quot;sandvining&quot; is some reason other than comcast&#039;s doing. Sure, I concede there&#039;s probably a good amount of users who don&#039;t know why having a router slows down their speed if they can&#039;t port forward or do something else right, and don&#039;t know the difference between uploading and downloading, but there is a significant amount of users who are not like that, who actually understand the difference, who don&#039;t use a router, and who, if the ISP isn&#039;t sending forged RST or doing other deceitful things, shouldn&#039;t have ANY connection issues at all.

Worst customer service attitude I&#039;ve ever heard of.

As for &quot;good reason&quot;:
If it was limited to 200kb/s, I wouldn&#039;t care.
If it was limited to 100kb/s I probably still wouldn&#039;t care. Hey, I can only upload at 300kb/s to media fire, so no big to me.
But if its completely blocked/forged RST packets that&#039;s being used....

I fail to see the logic behind this. I mean, I can either upload at 300kb/s to media fire and use MORE bandwidth, or upload at 75kb/s and use LESS...........anyone with basic math skills can tell you that the 75kb/s is less....and yet, instead of implementing a cap (at say 75, although I&#039;d like it if it were at 100, cause sometimes I want to seed more than one at a time) or even allowing us to upload, your company is completely blocking the protocol, I seem to remember before the sandvining, there was a cap anyway, so why suddenly block it completely?

http://www.savetheinternet.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, may I ask, was with the &#8220;if the speed&#8217;s horribly slow, its the customer&#8217;s end&#8217;s fault&#8221; attitude? Isn&#8217;t that strongly implying that the reason we get &#8220;random drops&#8221; from &#8220;sandvining&#8221; is some reason other than comcast&#8217;s doing. Sure, I concede there&#8217;s probably a good amount of users who don&#8217;t know why having a router slows down their speed if they can&#8217;t port forward or do something else right, and don&#8217;t know the difference between uploading and downloading, but there is a significant amount of users who are not like that, who actually understand the difference, who don&#8217;t use a router, and who, if the ISP isn&#8217;t sending forged RST or doing other deceitful things, shouldn&#8217;t have ANY connection issues at all.</p>
<p>Worst customer service attitude I&#8217;ve ever heard of.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;good reason&#8221;:<br />
If it was limited to 200kb/s, I wouldn&#8217;t care.<br />
If it was limited to 100kb/s I probably still wouldn&#8217;t care. Hey, I can only upload at 300kb/s to media fire, so no big to me.<br />
But if its completely blocked/forged RST packets that&#8217;s being used&#8230;.</p>
<p>I fail to see the logic behind this. I mean, I can either upload at 300kb/s to media fire and use MORE bandwidth, or upload at 75kb/s and use LESS&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..anyone with basic math skills can tell you that the 75kb/s is less&#8230;.and yet, instead of implementing a cap (at say 75, although I&#8217;d like it if it were at 100, cause sometimes I want to seed more than one at a time) or even allowing us to upload, your company is completely blocking the protocol, I seem to remember before the sandvining, there was a cap anyway, so why suddenly block it completely?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Random Rep</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-412288</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast Random Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL....I never once denied that Comcast wasn&#039;t throttling or sandvining...lol...I was only stating that they have a good reason to if they are. thats all lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL&#8230;.I never once denied that Comcast wasn&#8217;t throttling or sandvining&#8230;lol&#8230;I was only stating that they have a good reason to if they are. thats all lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Edit</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-411771</link>
		<dc:creator>Edit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some reason, this didn&#039;t show up on my previous post, probably because I used the greater than sign instead of typing it out or something:

....I&#039;ve had 2 hour downloads of game demos at 700kb/s (which I had to restart a few times due to connection issuesâ€¦.why did UaW demo have to be a Gb large)

I&#039;ve had 2 hour uploads for a media project on media fire at 300-400kb/s. (which I had to re-upload afterward cause I didn&#039;t know there was a 100Mb limit on files and they don&#039;t tell you until after you upload it....as for more than 100mb, its not that hard to reach it if you don&#039;t have time to encode videos compiled/edited in windows movie maker)

 Yet I can&#039;t seem to get greater than 75kb/s upload on my client (before I switched clients, I could barely get 1kb/s up during seeding) AFTER your company started sandvining....

Gr...the you&#039;re posting comments too quickly is annoying on firefox with noscript and adblock plus, seeing as I have to temporary allow everything whenever I want to post and it reloads the page for each script domain...

http://www.savetheinternet.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason, this didn&#8217;t show up on my previous post, probably because I used the greater than sign instead of typing it out or something:</p>
<p>&#8230;.I&#8217;ve had 2 hour downloads of game demos at 700kb/s (which I had to restart a few times due to connection issuesâ€¦.why did UaW demo have to be a Gb large)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had 2 hour uploads for a media project on media fire at 300-400kb/s. (which I had to re-upload afterward cause I didn&#8217;t know there was a 100Mb limit on files and they don&#8217;t tell you until after you upload it&#8230;.as for more than 100mb, its not that hard to reach it if you don&#8217;t have time to encode videos compiled/edited in windows movie maker)</p>
<p> Yet I can&#8217;t seem to get greater than 75kb/s upload on my client (before I switched clients, I could barely get 1kb/s up during seeding) AFTER your company started sandvining&#8230;.</p>
<p>Gr&#8230;the you&#8217;re posting comments too quickly is annoying on firefox with noscript and adblock plus, seeing as I have to temporary allow everything whenever I want to post and it reloads the page for each script domain&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: To the misinformed comcast rep</title>
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		<dc:creator>To the misinformed comcast rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m NOT using a router, stopped using it YEARS ago cause I couldn&#039;t play any games online without NAT issues. Only direct connection to the Modem for me, thank you. (right now I&#039;m not on the PC I&#039;m referring to though atm so if you were to trace my IP or something...:P No sane person would be running p2p on a (effectively free cause of rebates) low end pre-shipped Vista laptop, I&#039;d leave it to my XP desktop instead..(which is directly connected to the modem, NOT router))

100kb/s is not 2.5mb/s You say it&#039;s supposed to start at 6mb/s (and actually that&#039;s the plan I have), and then go to 2.5 mb/s. I, unlike many people, actually READ fine print (I&#039;m a fast reader, so I have the time to). I know about overselling/&quot;powerboost&quot; I know that its probably not possible to have continuously 6mb/s, but come on, not even 0.1mb/s??!!

And as for throttling, I&#039;ve had 2 hour downloads of game demos at 700kb/s (which I had to restart a few times due to connection issues....why did UaW demo have to be a Gb large &gt;75kb/s upload on my client (before I switched clients, I could barely get 1kb/s up during seeding) AFTER your company started sandvining (which I mentioned earlier, and if you had assumed that I didn&#039;t change any hardware configurations, which I didn&#039;t between now and a bit before you started sandvining, I said that I could upload at 100kb/s easily, I could even go to 150 or 200 (although I usually limited it lower), doesn&#039;t sound like my NONEXISTENT &quot;router&#039;s&quot; the cause) .......I don&#039;t think it has to do with anything on my end hardware wise.

As for hacking Comcast, I know they didn&#039;t, just re-routing (know to use google). Still, that&#039;s a separate issue (as said by the hackers), what really annoys me is that a Comcast rep is denying throttling and wrongdoing (which FYI, Comcast Corp. has already ADMITTED to forging RST packets. You must be really misinformed....or trying to spin the truth....or both!)

P.S.: Try seeding next time on p2p instead of leaching....tell me if you don&#039;t get any random drops (even on the new client, I get random drops around the 15-30 sec mark, although thankfully the client seems to automatically re-connect). Direct Downloads aren&#039;t p2p. Stop referring to those here. They are red herrings in this discussion.

Better yet, download the Azureus Plug-in or other plug-in&#039;s that are from independent parties and monitor Forged RST packets and compare your findings to others on comcast...

Now proudly writing this on XP, finally managed to install it over pre-shipped Vista :)

http://www.savetheinternet.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m NOT using a router, stopped using it YEARS ago cause I couldn&#8217;t play any games online without NAT issues. Only direct connection to the Modem for me, thank you. (right now I&#8217;m not on the PC I&#8217;m referring to though atm so if you were to trace my IP or something&#8230;:P No sane person would be running p2p on a (effectively free cause of rebates) low end pre-shipped Vista laptop, I&#8217;d leave it to my XP desktop instead..(which is directly connected to the modem, NOT router))</p>
<p>100kb/s is not 2.5mb/s You say it&#8217;s supposed to start at 6mb/s (and actually that&#8217;s the plan I have), and then go to 2.5 mb/s. I, unlike many people, actually READ fine print (I&#8217;m a fast reader, so I have the time to). I know about overselling/&#8221;powerboost&#8221; I know that its probably not possible to have continuously 6mb/s, but come on, not even 0.1mb/s??!!</p>
<p>And as for throttling, I&#8217;ve had 2 hour downloads of game demos at 700kb/s (which I had to restart a few times due to connection issues&#8230;.why did UaW demo have to be a Gb large &gt;75kb/s upload on my client (before I switched clients, I could barely get 1kb/s up during seeding) AFTER your company started sandvining (which I mentioned earlier, and if you had assumed that I didn&#8217;t change any hardware configurations, which I didn&#8217;t between now and a bit before you started sandvining, I said that I could upload at 100kb/s easily, I could even go to 150 or 200 (although I usually limited it lower), doesn&#8217;t sound like my NONEXISTENT &#8220;router&#8217;s&#8221; the cause) &#8230;&#8230;.I don&#8217;t think it has to do with anything on my end hardware wise.</p>
<p>As for hacking Comcast, I know they didn&#8217;t, just re-routing (know to use google). Still, that&#8217;s a separate issue (as said by the hackers), what really annoys me is that a Comcast rep is denying throttling and wrongdoing (which FYI, Comcast Corp. has already ADMITTED to forging RST packets. You must be really misinformed&#8230;.or trying to spin the truth&#8230;.or both!)</p>
<p>P.S.: Try seeding next time on p2p instead of leaching&#8230;.tell me if you don&#8217;t get any random drops (even on the new client, I get random drops around the 15-30 sec mark, although thankfully the client seems to automatically re-connect). Direct Downloads aren&#8217;t p2p. Stop referring to those here. They are red herrings in this discussion.</p>
<p>Better yet, download the Azureus Plug-in or other plug-in&#8217;s that are from independent parties and monitor Forged RST packets and compare your findings to others on comcast&#8230;</p>
<p>Now proudly writing this on XP, finally managed to install it over pre-shipped Vista :)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.savetheinternet.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.savetheinternet.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simple Math</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-406118</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple Math</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve already won the piracy war people, it&#039;s just a question of time. 

Assuming 1 AxxO movie = 700 MB, the average MP3 = 5 MB, and a $200 hard drive increases in capacity every 1.5 years (not unreasonable), then:

5 years (2012) - We&#039;ll have 7 Terabyte hard drives costing $200, capable of storing 9,643 Movies or 1.3 Million songs!!

10 years (2017) - We&#039;ll have 51 Terabyte hard drives costing $200, capable of storing 73,225 movies or 10.3 MILLION songs

15 years (2022) - We&#039;ll have a 389 Terabyte hard drive costing $200, that can store 556,000 Movies!!! or 77.8 Million songs (Is there even that many songs in the history of the world?!?!?)

20 years (2027) - We&#039;ll have a 2956 TERABYTE hard drive, costing $200, that can store 4.2 MILLION MOVIES or 590 MILLION MP3s!

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GAME *UCKING OVER!
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By 2030, we&#039;ll have every movie and song in the world stored on our freakin&#039; wrist watches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve already won the piracy war people, it&#8217;s just a question of time. </p>
<p>Assuming 1 AxxO movie = 700 MB, the average MP3 = 5 MB, and a $200 hard drive increases in capacity every 1.5 years (not unreasonable), then:</p>
<p>5 years (2012) &#8211; We&#8217;ll have 7 Terabyte hard drives costing $200, capable of storing 9,643 Movies or 1.3 Million songs!!</p>
<p>10 years (2017) &#8211; We&#8217;ll have 51 Terabyte hard drives costing $200, capable of storing 73,225 movies or 10.3 MILLION songs</p>
<p>15 years (2022) &#8211; We&#8217;ll have a 389 Terabyte hard drive costing $200, that can store 556,000 Movies!!! or 77.8 Million songs (Is there even that many songs in the history of the world?!?!?)</p>
<p>20 years (2027) &#8211; We&#8217;ll have a 2956 TERABYTE hard drive, costing $200, that can store 4.2 MILLION MOVIES or 590 MILLION MP3s!</p>
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GAME *UCKING OVER!<br />
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<p>By 2030, we&#8217;ll have every movie and song in the world stored on our freakin&#8217; wrist watches!</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Random Rep</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-405683</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast Random Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christopher...just so you know...they didn&#039;t even HACK Comcast....they didn&#039;t HACK anything...they changed a bunch of DNS pathways and rerouted them to a site that they control.  Those DNS pathways don&#039;t even belong to Comcast...they are owned and opperated by a 3rd party organization called Network Solutions....just so happened that they got ahold of the DNS pathways that service Comcast.net.  In no way did this affect anything belonging to Comcast except for a bunch of Customers&#039; email routings.  It was fixed in 6 hours.  The &quot;Hackers&quot; worked all night for 6 hours of a &quot;Hijacked&quot; DNS Pathway.  Read the Phone Interview with the &quot;Hackers&quot; on Wired.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christopher&#8230;just so you know&#8230;they didn&#8217;t even HACK Comcast&#8230;.they didn&#8217;t HACK anything&#8230;they changed a bunch of DNS pathways and rerouted them to a site that they control.  Those DNS pathways don&#8217;t even belong to Comcast&#8230;they are owned and opperated by a 3rd party organization called Network Solutions&#8230;.just so happened that they got ahold of the DNS pathways that service Comcast.net.  In no way did this affect anything belonging to Comcast except for a bunch of Customers&#8217; email routings.  It was fixed in 6 hours.  The &#8220;Hackers&#8221; worked all night for 6 hours of a &#8220;Hijacked&#8221; DNS Pathway.  Read the Phone Interview with the &#8220;Hackers&#8221; on Wired.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-405363</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t hack Comcast because they were upset at Comcast for throttling, they were upset at them because they informed them of a serious site vulnerability and got the kiss-off from Comcast.</description>
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		<title>By: PN Services &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linkpost &#124; 5.30.2008</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-405166</link>
		<dc:creator>PN Services &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Linkpost &#124; 5.30.2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] â€¢ Comcast Hacked - Comcast Network Solutions Account Compromised? &#8212; Home page hacked, DNS changed. Also Comcast Hacked in BitTorrent Throttling Payback? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] â€¢ Comcast Hacked &#8211; Comcast Network Solutions Account Compromised? &#8212; Home page hacked, DNS changed. Also Comcast Hacked in BitTorrent Throttling Payback? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Drill Down 043 - Hacks and Scalability Issues &#124; The Drill Down</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-404782</link>
		<dc:creator>The Drill Down 043 - Hacks and Scalability Issues &#124; The Drill Down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the attack that crippled Revision3 Comcast Hacked in BitTorrent Throttling Payback? US plots &#8220;Pirate Bay killer&#8221; multi-lateral trade agreement The Dawn of Free Internet [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the attack that crippled Revision3 Comcast Hacked in BitTorrent Throttling Payback? US plots &#8220;Pirate Bay killer&#8221; multi-lateral trade agreement The Dawn of Free Internet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Random Rep</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-404596</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast Random Rep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok first of all...I haven&#039;t talked to a customer YET that even knows what they are paying for....all they can come up with is what they think they are paying for.  Comcast&#039;s available speeds...4MB, 6MB, 8MB, and 12MB.  Lets take for example the most common...6MB.  You complain that you aren&#039;t getting what you pay for.  If you read your Subscription agreement...6MB service with Comcast entails this... You are Guaranteed a MAXIMUM of 6MB of DOWNLOAD speed.  A MAXIMUM...you will not see 6MB of speed the entire time.  NORMAL service will see on Average 2.5MB to 3.5MB on a regular, everyday basis...on a download, 20 mins into the download, you will see a burst that will cap at 6MB...this boost in speed will last 20 secs...this process will occur every 20 mins of a group of downloads. You are not paying for a continuous 6MB 24/7...thats not even what we advertise. So stop thinking thats what you&#039;re supposed to be getting.  And none of that I just said, applies to your Upload speed. 
Second of all...if you&#039;re signal is suposed to be showing you 100Mb/s, that means you&#039;re using a Wireless G Router of some kind...which means that if you are only showing 10Mb/s at best...your problem is you Router...NOT your signal. Time for a new Router.  Don&#039;t give me this shit about...&quot;Impossible! I&#039;ve had no problems out of this Router.&quot; or &quot;It&#039;s brand new.&quot; I see it every day...thats your problem.  And if you want more than that...go get the new Wireless N Router...you&#039;ll get 300Mb/s. 
Anyways...my point is...don&#039;t start blaming Comcast for their services when you don&#039;t even know what you&#039;re supposed to be getting...you&#039;re bringing the problems on yourself.  I don&#039;t have any problems downloading songs or games or videos or anything P2P or software or anything like that.... and I have the same shit you do... just the regular Comcast service... no Employee special service or anything..just regular 6MB Tier service...NO problems.  

One more thing....
Quote: you can tell whoever is in charge of throttling that they&#039;re failing! To a pre-pre-pre alpha client too! :P)

There is no such person, no such department....there is NOBODY sitting there pushing a button to start &quot;Throttling&quot; anyone&#039;s signal.  Seriously? That&#039;s just ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok first of all&#8230;I haven&#8217;t talked to a customer YET that even knows what they are paying for&#8230;.all they can come up with is what they think they are paying for.  Comcast&#8217;s available speeds&#8230;4MB, 6MB, 8MB, and 12MB.  Lets take for example the most common&#8230;6MB.  You complain that you aren&#8217;t getting what you pay for.  If you read your Subscription agreement&#8230;6MB service with Comcast entails this&#8230; You are Guaranteed a MAXIMUM of 6MB of DOWNLOAD speed.  A MAXIMUM&#8230;you will not see 6MB of speed the entire time.  NORMAL service will see on Average 2.5MB to 3.5MB on a regular, everyday basis&#8230;on a download, 20 mins into the download, you will see a burst that will cap at 6MB&#8230;this boost in speed will last 20 secs&#8230;this process will occur every 20 mins of a group of downloads. You are not paying for a continuous 6MB 24/7&#8230;thats not even what we advertise. So stop thinking thats what you&#8217;re supposed to be getting.  And none of that I just said, applies to your Upload speed.<br />
Second of all&#8230;if you&#8217;re signal is suposed to be showing you 100Mb/s, that means you&#8217;re using a Wireless G Router of some kind&#8230;which means that if you are only showing 10Mb/s at best&#8230;your problem is you Router&#8230;NOT your signal. Time for a new Router.  Don&#8217;t give me this shit about&#8230;&#8221;Impossible! I&#8217;ve had no problems out of this Router.&#8221; or &#8220;It&#8217;s brand new.&#8221; I see it every day&#8230;thats your problem.  And if you want more than that&#8230;go get the new Wireless N Router&#8230;you&#8217;ll get 300Mb/s.<br />
Anyways&#8230;my point is&#8230;don&#8217;t start blaming Comcast for their services when you don&#8217;t even know what you&#8217;re supposed to be getting&#8230;you&#8217;re bringing the problems on yourself.  I don&#8217;t have any problems downloading songs or games or videos or anything P2P or software or anything like that&#8230;. and I have the same shit you do&#8230; just the regular Comcast service&#8230; no Employee special service or anything..just regular 6MB Tier service&#8230;NO problems.  </p>
<p>One more thing&#8230;.<br />
Quote: you can tell whoever is in charge of throttling that they&#8217;re failing! To a pre-pre-pre alpha client too! :P)</p>
<p>There is no such person, no such department&#8230;.there is NOBODY sitting there pushing a button to start &#8220;Throttling&#8221; anyone&#8217;s signal.  Seriously? That&#8217;s just ignorant.</p>
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		<title>By: SPACEDOG</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-hacked-in-bittorrent-throttling-packback-080529/#comment-403977</link>
		<dc:creator>SPACEDOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONCASH SUCKS AS@ !! FRICK EM THEY DESERVE IT MESSIN WITH OUR SHIT WHY NOT MESS WIT THEIRS</description>
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