Uhhh. Very Interesting….

They over sell I would imagine by more then 10x and then just banish the high usage people (welcome to the blacklist 650GB/month got me banned for a year).

Like Cox cable did years ago they were forced to provide a monthly cap and did. But Cox actually can provide each customer with this cap and Comcast cannot. Comcast is in a situation where if they tell the cap we the customer would use every inch and they know they could not even handle this value.

Ultimately Comcast is horrible at customer service. The legal department knows there is a cap but ask a service person and they dont know shit. Face it if you get blacklisted you have no recourse but argue that AUP and EULA are unfair to usages that would be considered normal operation over a ISP connection.

No, all they care about is EASY money; they COULD make heaps more money by boosting bandwidth/capacity so they can sell way higher speeds to way more people; once its paid off (won’t take too long) its just pure profit.

But no, that’s the idealistic, long-sighted greed that capitalism is SUPPOSED to be based on.

These guys are just in it for a “quick” (/quicker) buck.

(societally destructive jerks, grumble grumble grumble)

Peace.

So they’re not as big of dicks as Comcast, but almost. We all need some REAL net neutrality laws to protect us as consumers and providers of information in an emerging age of true freedom of information.

The problem is that anti-religious fanatics are just as bad. Ever heard of communist Russia? An official atheist state that killed at least 20 million of it’s people (and would routinely torture and kill people for their religious beliefs). I’m afraid people kill whether they are religious or non-religious. The first and second world wars were certainly not fought or started by religious fanatics (though there were surely fanatics of some kind involved).[/quote]

Russia may have been officially atheist but that doesn’t mean anything really. They advocated atheism because it’s a lot harder to organize and motivate a group whose only commonality is the absence of a belief. The reason for all the torture and killing was institutionalized paranoia. They were afraid of a revolution.

To their credit I can say that speeds are usually spot on (200+kb/s down, 25-30kb/s up). THey have a fair access policy and a bandwidth limit, which at their highest package, which I have, nets you 17gb of download traffic and (I may be a little off)6gb upload per rolling 30 days. It’s really not that bad but you can’t leave your torrents on all night like you lucky cable/dsl fuckers.

Purchase ANY product in the world and if you can’t use it fully then why are they selling it?

It’s a con job IMO.

http://comcastissue.blogspot.com

And check out my youtube video responding to Concast’s mailers to my house NOW that the 12 month termination has ended.

The damn company WANTS my business after treating my family like $h!t?

You can find the video under the name U235Sentinel. Enjoy :D

Tor network developers ask that BT traffic stay off of the Onion network for just this reason.

Network neutrality is very important. However, it’s a network, not a trough. Comcast sells access, not umlimited access. That being said, shaping bandwidth is not the answer, in my opinion. It’s illegal, to begin with, and it’s a very very slippery slope.

Part of the answer is, obviously, for P2P sharers to do so with a bit of self-restraint. I throttle my downloads and uploads voluntarily. I share to a ratio of 2 or more, but never at unlimited speeds. Yeah, that means you are going to get my packets more slowly, but you’ll get them.

Child Porn!!!! Get Them for supporting that junk

If I want to download the entire internet, thats my own business…

dont play with my feelings, comcast!!

Here is what I mean…Comcast currently offers many services that are in direct competition with other content providers, legal and not.

Comcast wants you to pay $5 to watch a movie “On Demand” on their proprietary service, NOT download the same movie over P2P! It really does not matter to them that you may be using a VUDU box or some other legal P2P method, they want to sell you THEIR content!

Same goes with VOIP. Why use Skype? You should be using Comcast Voice (TM)!

Make no mistake, this is not only about network capacity, but also where you get (buy) your content from. This is evil, pure and simple, and I really hope the Judges and Lawmakers out there can reverse this very nasty trend!

pirates are simply replacing record labels as the new exploiters of the labor and resources of others, contributing nothing yet feeling entitled to everything for free.

Also, that guy from the Register is not a dummy. He is consistently opposed to the RIAA. The fact that you regard the Register as “the enemy” only demonstrates how delusional some of you have become.[/quote]

So its OK to mess up someones buiseness with TCP resets??? f*ck you!

Bittorrent aint just a stupid pirate tool its the best distribution method ever created for the internet, and yea ISPs sutch as Comcast need to provide more bandwith, thats what ISPs does and if it costs they can raise the subscriptions but they sure as hell cant mess with peoples usage! If Comcast cant compete (witch they sure as hell cant with European ISPs that have tons of bandwith from thin air havent they?) then they go out of buiseness!
They cant throttle users and mess with protocols just to be able to compete then they are obviously doing something very wrong! again frack you, if your work was being messed with im sure you would go out and r*pe anyone supporting them aswell![/quote]

So if they interfer with your work then get business class connection you tool. Get T1 and you will be set. What? you don’t want to pay for T1? Well then STFU you punk.

One way or another, that’s copyright infringement, and before long the isps will get it in the neck from the artists/studios/record companies and be forced to do something.

I bet they can probably give everyone X days’ notice and cancel their contracts anyway, but of course we’d go elsewhere until all IPSs implemented some step to stop infringement.

It’s just a case that until someone discoveres a reliable form of DMS, the ISPs have every right to err on the side of caution.

On Jan 1, as all the other folks sat around blindly, unaware they were now in business with a monster, I voted with my pocketbook.

My sacrifice is that I now use DSL. However, I have a much clearer conscious because I know I’m not giving a dime to those douches.

The problem is that anti-religious fanatics are just as bad. Ever heard of communist Russia? An official atheist state that killed at least 20 million of it’s people (and would routinely torture and kill people for their religious beliefs). I’m afraid people kill whether they are religious or non-religious. The first and second world wars were certainly not fought or started by religious fanatics (though there were surely fanatics of some kind involved).

You ruin the data rates for the rest of us.

First you steal music and movies, and then you complain that your ISP is hindering your illegal activity in an attempt to restore capacity for the rest of the law abiding citizens.

Check yourself. Srsly.

Uhh, first of all, all traffic over network is serialized, so basically all traffic looks like your first diagram anyway. While you can make it look like the third diagram to put it in layman’s terms, it’s misleading. Also, all traffic looks the same at the TCP level; only by looking at the data part of the transmission can Comcast determine (well, in addition to looking at the ports, if you’re using default ports, and traffic activity somewhat), so there really is no such thing as —- normal traffic and ==== p2p traffic, as you put it, from the network’s perspective.

Secondly, Comcast is already overselling its pipes with its HDTV channels, trying to push HD content highly compressed, yet getting people to be OK with it anyway. This is also eating away at your internet bandwidth, since they are only allowing internet traffic in a small window of frequencies on their cable network for internet usage, much like the problems cell phone companies are having with bandwidth over-the-air (and crappy voice quality as a result).

Third, let’s not fall into the trap of comparing ourselves to Japan again. Japan is a country roughly the size of California with about 1-1/2 times higher population density, as well as a different system of competition among service providers and a different expectation of service, as well as a different urban development system. Apples and oranges, my friend, apples and oranges.

Fourth, Comcast uses coaxial cables for much of their network, especially in older areas that haven’t been updated. Coaxial is, by definition, a broadcast network. Broadcast networks are, by definition, less reliable and slower than switched networks, especially when traffic density approaches maximum, due to collisions that occur on a physical level with sending signals on a broadcast network (see the difference between switched networks and broadcast networks for more information, i.e. 100baseT vs 802.11g). It’s no wonder they’re trying to keep traffic density down. Smaller bandwidth won’t help much in this case when the actual number of transmissions, not the payload-per-transmission, will not go down as a result of a lower bandwidth-per-customer scenario. Not that it’s right (in a legal sense) but, from a technical perspective, it makes perfect sense.

YOUR FAILED BUSINESS MODEL IS NOT MY PROBLEM.

These assholes have oversold their service, on the assumption that the world is unchanging, new technologies will never emerge, no one will find new ways to improve peoples’ lives with broadband.

BZZZZZZTTTTTT!!!!!! Thanks for playing.

It’s called an “OH SHIT” moment. No different as the situation that would unfold if every account holder at Wells Fargo went to their local branch at 9am Friday morning and said “Give me cash for all the money in my account. I’m cashing out.”

Look you cigar-chomping fatcat executive assholes. You’ve been sucking on the tit of Bob and Mary Jane consumer for years, paying $49 a month to read email and fuck around on Ebay. Now that they’re actually starting to use the bandwidth they’re paying for, you’re like “Oh shit! What’s going on? How did this happen?”

You’ve been so fucking arrogant and greedy, swimming around in all the cash you’ve made, failing to re-invest it in the business, building out your network.

Well fuck you. I hope there’s a congressional panel created to investigate all this overselling and underperforming.

Assholes.

http://www.ellacoya.com/solutions/control.shtml

I used to work for an ISP when I first heard of ellacoya and then did some research to find out its bandwidth throttling. When I first saw the website it has changed somewhat over the years, I’m pretty sure it controls any/every app/port and its bandwidth capability and highly doubt that when network traffic is at a low, they allow P2P to go into burst mode. Effective marketing but NOT.

oh and btw, havent you ever heard of suicide bombings in the name of Allah? theyre pretty damn common seeing as how they happen EVERY SINGLE DAY IN THE MIDDLE EAST.

‘ no link between any fanaticism and crime ‘ hunh???

the rational people of the world seem to disagree with you.