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		<title>By: Switeck</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-vs-bittorrent-whats-next-080821/#comment-492059</link>
		<dc:creator>Switeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ComCast added VoIP, HD digital channels...and low-quality digital channels -- cutting into total bandwidth shared between their cable internet customers. They don&#039;t want to sacrifice another tv channel for more users&#039; bandwidth...so more users now have less to share! ComCast by my estimates has a contention rate of about 50:1 -- that means they only have 1/50th as much REAL bandwidth as everyone running at 100% would use. Even at absolute best, they don&#039;t top 20:1 contention rate...except maybe for very low customer areas. As bad as 20:1 sounds, few people use anywhere near 95% max 24/7 -- certainly not down AND up at the same time! But during peak hours even 20:1 might be too little for each person. They are using up most of their infrastructure gains (DOCSIS 2-&gt;3) by increasing top tier from 16/2 mbit to 50/5 mbit and leaving little room for increased customer usage! Because of that, contention ratios might even get WORSE! So now they cap. Another ISP could offer slower speeds with no cap or throttling (beyond perhaps worst-case-scenario peak hours) and cost almost as much...and customers will flock to it once ComCast really starts enforcing the caps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ComCast added VoIP, HD digital channels&#8230;and low-quality digital channels &#8212; cutting into total bandwidth shared between their cable internet customers. They don&#8217;t want to sacrifice another tv channel for more users&#8217; bandwidth&#8230;so more users now have less to share! ComCast by my estimates has a contention rate of about 50:1 &#8212; that means they only have 1/50th as much REAL bandwidth as everyone running at 100% would use. Even at absolute best, they don&#8217;t top 20:1 contention rate&#8230;except maybe for very low customer areas. As bad as 20:1 sounds, few people use anywhere near 95% max 24/7 &#8212; certainly not down AND up at the same time! But during peak hours even 20:1 might be too little for each person. They are using up most of their infrastructure gains (DOCSIS 2-&gt;3) by increasing top tier from 16/2 mbit to 50/5 mbit and leaving little room for increased customer usage! Because of that, contention ratios might even get WORSE! So now they cap. Another ISP could offer slower speeds with no cap or throttling (beyond perhaps worst-case-scenario peak hours) and cost almost as much&#8230;and customers will flock to it once ComCast really starts enforcing the caps.</p>
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		<title>By: We Want Fiber Optic with 6-9mbit speeds and no caps.!</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-vs-bittorrent-whats-next-080821/#comment-491523</link>
		<dc:creator>We Want Fiber Optic with 6-9mbit speeds and no caps.!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aug 26, 2008 at 06:04 by pirates ahoy be proud we have them worried
 
  heres what i do not get
    give every one 5 megabit internet , build the infrastructure so that 95% can use at unlimited speed

a reply to this is. their networks do handle it as cable is a shared network more people on it means lower speeds. however the RIAA and MPAA are losing over and over of getting peoples information from the ISP so the Major Record labels and Movie Company&#039;s said fine we are holding the ISP&#039;s responsible for this. If people really wanted to pirate things they will. It has gone on since BETA and VHS and tapes and has not stopped. When will the big guys learn that it never will stop. 

that is my 2 cents anyhow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aug 26, 2008 at 06:04 by pirates ahoy be proud we have them worried</p>
<p>  heres what i do not get<br />
    give every one 5 megabit internet , build the infrastructure so that 95% can use at unlimited speed</p>
<p>a reply to this is. their networks do handle it as cable is a shared network more people on it means lower speeds. however the RIAA and MPAA are losing over and over of getting peoples information from the ISP so the Major Record labels and Movie Company&#8217;s said fine we are holding the ISP&#8217;s responsible for this. If people really wanted to pirate things they will. It has gone on since BETA and VHS and tapes and has not stopped. When will the big guys learn that it never will stop. </p>
<p>that is my 2 cents anyhow</p>
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		<title>By: John Long</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-vs-bittorrent-whats-next-080821/#comment-491521</link>
		<dc:creator>John Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have heard been watching all of the ideas of metering plans and what excessive data usage might be. Well say you own maybe WoW im sure that is a bandwidth hog all its own and with other games such as Warcraft, Starcraft 2 being played online what isp has the right to determine what an excessive usage. All that will be done is make things like the 56k dialup days where files were shared in a manor that there were 50 parts at 4mb or a so a piece take a 3gig file and break it down to 500mb segments and you still have the same file. Or with the uprising of Wifi A,B,G,N networks using WEP/WPA encryption or none at all are easy prey to obtain the network-key and waste their bandwidth racking up $100&#039;s if not $1000&#039;s about 70% of computer users are such novices they would never know someone has done this. It will be a great lose to the advancement of any furthering of technology. Once again it is an example of the rich wanting to get richer and the people who depend on a service taking the hit in pocket book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard been watching all of the ideas of metering plans and what excessive data usage might be. Well say you own maybe WoW im sure that is a bandwidth hog all its own and with other games such as Warcraft, Starcraft 2 being played online what isp has the right to determine what an excessive usage. All that will be done is make things like the 56k dialup days where files were shared in a manor that there were 50 parts at 4mb or a so a piece take a 3gig file and break it down to 500mb segments and you still have the same file. Or with the uprising of Wifi A,B,G,N networks using WEP/WPA encryption or none at all are easy prey to obtain the network-key and waste their bandwidth racking up $100&#8217;s if not $1000&#8217;s about 70% of computer users are such novices they would never know someone has done this. It will be a great lose to the advancement of any furthering of technology. Once again it is an example of the rich wanting to get richer and the people who depend on a service taking the hit in pocket book.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-vs-bittorrent-whats-next-080821/#comment-489757</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#19 -- &quot;As soon as FiOS is available in my area, Comcast is going to be thrown out of my house in the cold and then we&#039;ll see who&#039;s boss.&quot;

Same here I already switched my phones over to verizon ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#19 &#8212; &#8220;As soon as FiOS is available in my area, Comcast is going to be thrown out of my house in the cold and then we&#8217;ll see who&#8217;s boss.&#8221;</p>
<p>Same here I already switched my phones over to verizon ^^</p>
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		<title>By: b1rd</title>
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		<dc:creator>b1rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Portugal, bandwith caps were (and still are) the market norm. Only very recently have some ISPs adopted unlimited monthly transfers into their available plans. 
Funny to see how our market is slowly seeing the light as others previously seen as ground breakers are turning to these high-profit, who cares about the consumer, business practices. The only way to defeat this is to educate the average consumer to demand unlimited access. People in Portugal didn&#039;t use to complain, until several years of campaigning from informed users made the average user base realize we were being exploited.
It would seem the US has gone through the inverse process. As the average consumer is depicted as consistently less informed/interested in his service conditions, the more aggressive the ISPs become to exploit him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Portugal, bandwith caps were (and still are) the market norm. Only very recently have some ISPs adopted unlimited monthly transfers into their available plans.<br />
Funny to see how our market is slowly seeing the light as others previously seen as ground breakers are turning to these high-profit, who cares about the consumer, business practices. The only way to defeat this is to educate the average consumer to demand unlimited access. People in Portugal didn&#8217;t use to complain, until several years of campaigning from informed users made the average user base realize we were being exploited.<br />
It would seem the US has gone through the inverse process. As the average consumer is depicted as consistently less informed/interested in his service conditions, the more aggressive the ISPs become to exploit him.</p>
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		<title>By: pirates ahoy be proud we have them worried</title>
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		<dc:creator>pirates ahoy be proud we have them worried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok 

heres what i do not get 
give every one 5 megabit internet , build the infrastructure so that 95% can use at unlimited speed

problem solved
move along
quite whining the fact is that this is what it is supposed ot be not some form a corporate schill cash

i swear i can see why osama blew up a corporate building sad yes the loss of life but these noobs have to realize:
A) they are destroying the planet , and not doing anyhting of value for any of us.
B) when cdrs reach 30$ again , then what. I will tell you. hacker wireless streams that bounce town to town with your lovely xvids and dvdrs, roaming little vans broadcasting out the cool shite, kinda like a reborn BBS of the days of old. YE can&#039;t Stop er ARGGGGG Matey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok </p>
<p>heres what i do not get<br />
give every one 5 megabit internet , build the infrastructure so that 95% can use at unlimited speed</p>
<p>problem solved<br />
move along<br />
quite whining the fact is that this is what it is supposed ot be not some form a corporate schill cash</p>
<p>i swear i can see why osama blew up a corporate building sad yes the loss of life but these noobs have to realize:<br />
A) they are destroying the planet , and not doing anyhting of value for any of us.<br />
B) when cdrs reach 30$ again , then what. I will tell you. hacker wireless streams that bounce town to town with your lovely xvids and dvdrs, roaming little vans broadcasting out the cool shite, kinda like a reborn BBS of the days of old. YE can&#8217;t Stop er ARGGGGG Matey.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey comcast go suck your commie bros DICK!!!!!!!!!FREEDMON WAS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY ARE OWN!!! AND YOU ARE DAMNED SURE NOT ONE OF US....ps. rot in hell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey comcast go suck your commie bros DICK!!!!!!!!!FREEDMON WAS BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY ARE OWN!!! AND YOU ARE DAMNED SURE NOT ONE OF US&#8230;.ps. rot in hell</p>
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		<title>By: ALIS</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-vs-bittorrent-whats-next-080821/#comment-488757</link>
		<dc:creator>ALIS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ISP&#039;s that start slowing all traffic of setting some limits to how much you can download/upload will lose lots of customers. I dont think i will have that problem in few years but if/when it happens i will not wait one minute to change isp. If all isp&#039;s limit speeds or download amounts then ill take the slowest and cheapest connection so i will be connected but wont pay much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ISP&#8217;s that start slowing all traffic of setting some limits to how much you can download/upload will lose lots of customers. I dont think i will have that problem in few years but if/when it happens i will not wait one minute to change isp. If all isp&#8217;s limit speeds or download amounts then ill take the slowest and cheapest connection so i will be connected but wont pay much.</p>
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		<title>By: Idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23
Your an idiot. I had Bigpond it was terrible and i had that glitch but you have been very smart to tell everyone.
So the next time they go through there system and check someone has extra large bandwidth they will charge your mate. So good idea moron and remember to tell your friend its only $110/gig over or nice lawsuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23<br />
Your an idiot. I had Bigpond it was terrible and i had that glitch but you have been very smart to tell everyone.<br />
So the next time they go through there system and check someone has extra large bandwidth they will charge your mate. So good idea moron and remember to tell your friend its only $110/gig over or nice lawsuit.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ Phil</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-vs-bittorrent-whats-next-080821/#comment-488565</link>
		<dc:creator>PJ Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what good are Concast&#039;s 9Mbps connections going to be if they slow down streaming and file sharing? Will people go for it just to do super-fast spam downloads into Outlook?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what good are Concast&#8217;s 9Mbps connections going to be if they slow down streaming and file sharing? Will people go for it just to do super-fast spam downloads into Outlook?</p>
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		<title>By: Nozmo</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/comcast-vs-bittorrent-whats-next-080821/#comment-488559</link>
		<dc:creator>Nozmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is also Comcast&#039;s way of undermining the budding streaming TV upstarts like Americafree.tv and TVUnetworks. They don&#039;t want to risk losing the cable TV customer cash cow to Internet based entertainment platforms. If they are going to provide Internet service for a price then they should refrain from throttling bandwidth to curb competition. All this will do is force the supply and demand to favor other providers that don&#039;t mess with their paying customers. But then Comcast was never famous for fair practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is also Comcast&#8217;s way of undermining the budding streaming TV upstarts like Americafree.tv and TVUnetworks. They don&#8217;t want to risk losing the cable TV customer cash cow to Internet based entertainment platforms. If they are going to provide Internet service for a price then they should refrain from throttling bandwidth to curb competition. All this will do is force the supply and demand to favor other providers that don&#8217;t mess with their paying customers. But then Comcast was never famous for fair practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 12:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best to make sure you got a good &lt;a&gt;shell&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 09:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like I&#039;ll have to be going back to Frontier. I download/upload about 50gb a day. If they are going to have caps I don&#039;t know what will happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I&#8217;ll have to be going back to Frontier. I download/upload about 50gb a day. If they are going to have caps I don&#8217;t know what will happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Meocross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meocross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 06:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i swear people seriously change ISP&#039;s Comcast needs to learn that we are not sheep we will leave if the service stinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i swear people seriously change ISP&#8217;s Comcast needs to learn that we are not sheep we will leave if the service stinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Number Two</title>
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		<dc:creator>Number Two</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;3 Aug 22, 2008 at 00:11 by Dissent is Guaranteed&quot;

Its simple to prove that Cumcast is slowing down your speeds with the recent evidence brought forth. Depending on what kind of contract you hold with them (assuming youve read and understood all fine print), you can sue their collective half-retarded asses for breach of contract. In fact, im surprised there hasnt been a class action lawsuit against them already. I guess it just goes to show how meek and ignorant the American Public are.

My advice to those who can prove illegal bandwidth throttling: SUE SUE SUE. SUE UNTIL YOURE BLUE IN THE FACE.

It is, after all, the only way you can get any sort of justice anymore in these United States of the Criminally Insane and Ignorant a.k.a The United States of America.&quot;

I generally agree with the sentiment but if you look deeper, I think you&#039;ll find the majority of people will have no case if they go to court.

The standard agreements for residential customers do not guarantee anything.  In most jurisdictions your best &quot;guarantee&quot; is that Comcast will &quot;do its best&quot; to give you what you pay for.  You may even see a mediation clause in there, meaning you&#039;ll have a tougher time getting a case into court.

Yeah it sucks, but you DID agree to it, even if through 10 pages of fine print.  

Most just don&#039;t realize what they actually signed up for.

Business/SLA class customers who are &quot;managed&quot; against their agreements have a much better chance for successful litigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;3 Aug 22, 2008 at 00:11 by Dissent is Guaranteed&#8221;</p>
<p>Its simple to prove that Cumcast is slowing down your speeds with the recent evidence brought forth. Depending on what kind of contract you hold with them (assuming youve read and understood all fine print), you can sue their collective half-retarded asses for breach of contract. In fact, im surprised there hasnt been a class action lawsuit against them already. I guess it just goes to show how meek and ignorant the American Public are.</p>
<p>My advice to those who can prove illegal bandwidth throttling: SUE SUE SUE. SUE UNTIL YOURE BLUE IN THE FACE.</p>
<p>It is, after all, the only way you can get any sort of justice anymore in these United States of the Criminally Insane and Ignorant a.k.a The United States of America.&#8221;</p>
<p>I generally agree with the sentiment but if you look deeper, I think you&#8217;ll find the majority of people will have no case if they go to court.</p>
<p>The standard agreements for residential customers do not guarantee anything.  In most jurisdictions your best &#8220;guarantee&#8221; is that Comcast will &#8220;do its best&#8221; to give you what you pay for.  You may even see a mediation clause in there, meaning you&#8217;ll have a tougher time getting a case into court.</p>
<p>Yeah it sucks, but you DID agree to it, even if through 10 pages of fine print.  </p>
<p>Most just don&#8217;t realize what they actually signed up for.</p>
<p>Business/SLA class customers who are &#8220;managed&#8221; against their agreements have a much better chance for successful litigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worrying developments indeed.  I can already see that these companies are pretty much going to cripple the Internet.  I&#039;m really surprised that Companies like Microsoft, Sony, Google, etc.  Haven&#039;t taken a tougher stand against ISP&#039;s looking for the cheap way out instead of doing the upgrades they should.  

The U.S. is lagging behind in Bandwidth (way way behind) as it is because the corporations want to squeeze as much money out of us without paying to upgrade their services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worrying developments indeed.  I can already see that these companies are pretty much going to cripple the Internet.  I&#8217;m really surprised that Companies like Microsoft, Sony, Google, etc.  Haven&#8217;t taken a tougher stand against ISP&#8217;s looking for the cheap way out instead of doing the upgrades they should.  </p>
<p>The U.S. is lagging behind in Bandwidth (way way behind) as it is because the corporations want to squeeze as much money out of us without paying to upgrade their services.</p>
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		<title>By: HelloWorld;</title>
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		<dc:creator>HelloWorld;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big pile of poop.

Once you hear about a starting ISP that will say &quot;They do it but we wont&quot; and froopty-loopty, suddenly that starting ISP will get popular and Comcast will do anything to get their precious costumers back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big pile of poop.</p>
<p>Once you hear about a starting ISP that will say &#8220;They do it but we wont&#8221; and froopty-loopty, suddenly that starting ISP will get popular and Comcast will do anything to get their precious costumers back.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 22:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cables done, DSL in.</description>
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		<title>By: sickboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sickboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Perrin J

I don&#039;t know about &quot;making life miserable for everyone&quot; as anyone downloading content for free are probably not going to be feeling so miserable afterwards.  But, sure, &quot;if they&#039;d just buy their movies, books, software&quot; â€¦ but that&#039;s not reality now, is it.  Wish all you want but people won&#039;t because people primarily function to serve their own interest.  Say a prayer or something if you&#039;re religious, maybe that&#039;ll work for you?  And to finish of; actually there &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; still be a fair number of people using BitTorrent technology even if nobody swapped illegal content.  It&#039;d surely be a massive drop in BitTorrent usage, no doubt, but it IS still a very useful technology that people and companies DO use for legitimate content distribution.

@ Kathryn

The &quot;Internet&quot; isn&#039;t &quot;unethical&quot;, people are, in exactly the same way as they are in the &#039;physical&#039; world.  So-called &quot;unethical&quot; people utilise the capabilities of the INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY to exchange information.  So long as the capability exists people will continue to use it to satisfy their personal desires.  That might be a shit pill to swallow, but it&#039;s reality.  Computer technology dropped a nice big bag of spanners into the gears of many information-based industries.  Modern IT nullified the fucking traditional systems and there&#039;s little you can do but adapt to it.

It&#039;s not a fight between people, it&#039;s a fight between technological systems, with humans virtually just tertiary actors caught in the battle.

â€¦

Re: Comcast/FCC - I can&#039;t help but be suspicious of some angle being played here.  Seems to me that it&#039;d be somewhat un-American NOT to bend primarily toward support for the corporate interest.  I&#039;ll assume that it is and I&#039;m so far just too dumb to see it.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know about &#8220;making life miserable for everyone&#8221; as anyone downloading content for free are probably not going to be feeling so miserable afterwards.  But, sure, &#8220;if they&#8217;d just buy their movies, books, software&#8221; â€¦ but that&#8217;s not reality now, is it.  Wish all you want but people won&#8217;t because people primarily function to serve their own interest.  Say a prayer or something if you&#8217;re religious, maybe that&#8217;ll work for you?  And to finish of; actually there <i>would</i> still be a fair number of people using BitTorrent technology even if nobody swapped illegal content.  It&#8217;d surely be a massive drop in BitTorrent usage, no doubt, but it IS still a very useful technology that people and companies DO use for legitimate content distribution.</p>
<p>@ Kathryn</p>
<p>The &#8220;Internet&#8221; isn&#8217;t &#8220;unethical&#8221;, people are, in exactly the same way as they are in the &#8216;physical&#8217; world.  So-called &#8220;unethical&#8221; people utilise the capabilities of the INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY to exchange information.  So long as the capability exists people will continue to use it to satisfy their personal desires.  That might be a shit pill to swallow, but it&#8217;s reality.  Computer technology dropped a nice big bag of spanners into the gears of many information-based industries.  Modern IT nullified the fucking traditional systems and there&#8217;s little you can do but adapt to it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a fight between people, it&#8217;s a fight between technological systems, with humans virtually just tertiary actors caught in the battle.</p>
<p>â€¦</p>
<p>Re: Comcast/FCC &#8211; I can&#8217;t help but be suspicious of some angle being played here.  Seems to me that it&#8217;d be somewhat un-American NOT to bend primarily toward support for the corporate interest.  I&#8217;ll assume that it is and I&#8217;m so far just too dumb to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasonable Person</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reasonable Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With bandwidth throttling only the bittorrent protocol was being targeted. With the FCC ruling, ISP&#039;s will indeed move to alternative means of exploiting their customers. This means that all heavy bandwidth users are now going to be punished regardless of the protocol/program being used to download (HTTP, FTP, Usenet, etc).

Due to where I live, my choices are pretty limited when it comes to television services. For several years now I&#039;ve dreamed of the day when I would be able to choose an HD service from one of many online providers worldwide instead of being restricted to a local one (all of which are poor quality). Unfortunately it is starting to look like that may never happen. So much for innovation. ISP&#039;s should be working towards having enough bandwidth so that everyone could subscribe to HD television services via the internet and even be a part of that entertainment market which I&#039;m sure is just waiting to explode.

It seems to me that ISP&#039;s these days would rather pocket any short term profits they make now rather than reinvesting it into the future like they should be doing. Fighting what their customers want is a really odd stance to take too. The only thing I can see happening if they stick with plans to meter bandwidth with outrageous overuse costs is the eventual loss of many of their customers. None of it makes any long term business sense at all.

I guess if you&#039;re an affected customer you have to ask yourself if you really need what they&#039;re offering. I know that if I could no longer download large files and there wasn&#039;t an alternative service to take my business to, I would find the cheapest dial-up service I could and switch to that, provided I actually need the internet at all. The internet may be wonderful, but it&#039;s not like we&#039;ll all die without it. The best thing people can do is show they&#039;re opinion by canceling their internet service, letting the ISP&#039;s know why, and telling them point blank what it would take to get you back. Make sure they know that you will be suggesting to all friends and family they do the same as well. Things will never change unless people make a stand for what they believe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With bandwidth throttling only the bittorrent protocol was being targeted. With the FCC ruling, ISP&#8217;s will indeed move to alternative means of exploiting their customers. This means that all heavy bandwidth users are now going to be punished regardless of the protocol/program being used to download (HTTP, FTP, Usenet, etc).</p>
<p>Due to where I live, my choices are pretty limited when it comes to television services. For several years now I&#8217;ve dreamed of the day when I would be able to choose an HD service from one of many online providers worldwide instead of being restricted to a local one (all of which are poor quality). Unfortunately it is starting to look like that may never happen. So much for innovation. ISP&#8217;s should be working towards having enough bandwidth so that everyone could subscribe to HD television services via the internet and even be a part of that entertainment market which I&#8217;m sure is just waiting to explode.</p>
<p>It seems to me that ISP&#8217;s these days would rather pocket any short term profits they make now rather than reinvesting it into the future like they should be doing. Fighting what their customers want is a really odd stance to take too. The only thing I can see happening if they stick with plans to meter bandwidth with outrageous overuse costs is the eventual loss of many of their customers. None of it makes any long term business sense at all.</p>
<p>I guess if you&#8217;re an affected customer you have to ask yourself if you really need what they&#8217;re offering. I know that if I could no longer download large files and there wasn&#8217;t an alternative service to take my business to, I would find the cheapest dial-up service I could and switch to that, provided I actually need the internet at all. The internet may be wonderful, but it&#8217;s not like we&#8217;ll all die without it. The best thing people can do is show they&#8217;re opinion by canceling their internet service, letting the ISP&#8217;s know why, and telling them point blank what it would take to get you back. Make sure they know that you will be suggesting to all friends and family they do the same as well. Things will never change unless people make a stand for what they believe in.</p>
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