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‘Conan The Barbarian’ Chases 2,165 BitTorrent Downloaders in Court

A mass lawsuit against 2,165 alleged downloaders of ‘Conan The Barbarian’ was filed at the United States District Court for the District of Maryland last Friday. Through this legal action movie studio Nu Image hopes to collect millions of dollars in settlement fees. Details of the case reveal that the lawyers have learned from past mistakes, increasing the risk for those accused of copyright infringement.

conanStarting two years ago, hundreds of thousands of BitTorrent users who allegedly shared films without the consent of copyright holders have been dragged to court in the US.

The aim of the copyright holders is never to take any of the cases to trial, but to get alleged infringers to pay a substantial cash settlement to make legal action go away. Some equal this scheme to extortion, but the copyright holders say they are merely protecting their work.

One of the first film studios to recognize the potential of these schemes was Nu Image. Last year they had the questionable honor of filing the largest P2P lawsuit in history by targeting 23,322 alleged downloaders of ‘The Expendables’.

While that case was dismissed a few months later, Nu Image isn’t leaving BitTorrent users alone.

Late last week the studio filed a brand new mass-BitTorrent lawsuit at the US District Court of Maryland for another well-known movie. The suit targets 2,165 alleged sharers of ‘Conan The Barbarian,’ a film that was downloaded on BitTorrent by millions of people in recent months.

The accused individuals had their IP-addresses exposed while downloading the film, and were ‘busted’ somewhere between December 1st 2011 and February 1st of this year as can be seen from the full list of “Doe defendants” below.

Other than the new film title, the paperwork is pretty much identical to previous lawsuits that were filed by the US Copyright Group (USCG). However, a closer look reveals that the lawyers did learn from ‘mistakes’ made in previous cases.

One of the most significant changes is that all defendants appear to reside in the right district, Maryland in this particular case. Previously judges have dismissed tens of thousands of defendants because they lived in other districts. This was also the main reason why Nu Image’s ‘The Expendables’ case died prematurely.

The judge in that case advised Nu Image to use one of the many IP-location databases to find out who they can go after in court, and the movie studio has done so for their most recent filing.

Another smart move from the movie studio is to include only IP-addresses allocated to Internet providers that were previously cooperative, such as Comcast and Sprint. Noticeably absent is Time Warner, who successfully fought the mass-production of IP-addresses in a related case.

While the above give Nu Image a better chance of reaching their desired goal, BitTorrent users aren’t sitting still either.

The mass-lawsuits and the upcoming copyright alert system motivated many BitTorrent users to routinely hide their IP-addresses through proxy and VPN services. But nevertheless, the scheme is profitable enough for studios like Nu Image to continue. Even if only half of the defendants pay up the total settlement earnings will be in the millions.

And so the cat and mouse game continues.

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  • Anonymous

    it’s a bad movie anyway

    if they don’t make any money the market is trying to tell them something and they should use the money their lawyers take to improve future films.

    • Anaon

      Yeah it was so bad they needed TITS to try to make people pay to watch it. When a movie really sucks I always say the TIT rescue will be tried.

      Yet they forgot tits are all over the web for free and since the 90′s the TIT rescue has been seen as a desperate act.

      Please everyone now boycott this production company.

      • Nu(de) Image suck cocks

        Rated 5.2 on IMDB roflmao! Nu(de) Image suck cocks

        • yoyo

          HOLY CRAP… My IP is on there……
          wait, didnt waste excessive megabyte on that crudddd…..

    • Arrrr, eh?

      To be fair I thought the beginning with young Conan was actually ok. Not great, just ok. The rest of the film stinks though. I’ll happily buy the ones that I feel are worth it (Avatar, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Rango, etc) but I refuse to be ripped off by the multitudes of crap Hollywood produces each year which far outnumbers everything else they “create” (Your Highness for instance, lord that was awful). I’m not at all surprised by this news regarding a mass lawsuit. It seems to be the only idea they can come up with for obtaining those profits they desired but failed to achieve and showcases their stunning lack of creativity for all to see. Hollywood moguls, the shallow and petty rich folks they are, waste their money focusing on the problem when they should be investing it in finding an equitable solution instead. We can live without them, but they cannot live without us. This will be their undoing in the end.

      • GhestWho

        Ghost Rider II is a steaming pile of soggy elephant shit.

    • Anonymous

      They’re just trying to cover their losses. It’s easy to say you’re protecting your work when you have legal justification to make a quick buck.

    • Anon

      spend a few bucks of your money and invest in vpn…even TF is pointing this out in the article…

      these types of lawsuits are ridiculous. but the easiest way to deal with it now is disguise the ip + encrypt the traffic.

      less than twenty dollars a month will do both. no it won’t protect you from the government should you decide to hack them, but it will more than take care of the media trolls.

      and it will allow you access to blocked content, secure you on open wifi, etc etc.

      seriously, i don’t know why you would be on bt, usenet, or any p2p without vpn.

  • Anonymous

    ARSEHOLES they will lose, they make so much money why rape the poor?

    • Krozar

      Actually they’ll win. Verizon and Comcast will hand over their customers on a silver platter.

      • duckington

        The fact that it’s only Comcast and Verizon on the list makes me think they’ve already cooperated.. I’m sure more people in this world downloaded the movie than just those two ISP’s customers .. despite how rotten the film is.

  • Guest

    What a shitty movie.

    • OMGWTFBBQ

      How about, because they are assholes. We give even their best movies crap reviews and IMDB ratings of 0,1. I mean 2000 people is a good start and once this goes viral we could have a laugh. See if that costs them enough money to correct their behavior.

  • Admin

    when the judge sees the movie this case is fucked.

    • Userlo105

      yea its fuckin gay userlo105

  • Krozar

    I wonder if Nu Image is from Niue, the TLD being .nu. Otherwise such a spelling looks completely retarded.

    Well, seems like a massive win for VPNs. Their tactics are obvious. Even a US-based VPN is probably fine if their only going after a select group of users.

    • Kkkkkkkk

      “…Even a US-based VPN is probably fine…”
      you would be a fool to use a US VPN

      • Krozar

        True but it sucks going to a site from a foreign country.

  • LOL

    LOL …

    Just show the sh*t movie to the Judge and the case will be dismissed!

    • Admin

      *s what i said.

      • LOL

        brilliant minds think alike.

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    @ all 2.165 victims in Maryland -
    Do NOT panic;
    Do NOT pay anything to them;
    Do NOT pay for legal advice;
    Do NOT speak to them if they phone you.

    Stand firm, stay strong and they’ll eventually leave you alone because they WONT proceed to Court.

    This is a well-established routine and there’s plenty of people out here that will help and advise you AT NO COST to you whatsoever.
    See
    https://www.eff.org/
    and,
    http://dietrolldie.com/
    and
    http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/

    • Momo

      Oh, come on, Rob. You have to give them something at least.

      Give them bad reviews.

      On everything they ever release.

      • Chronoss2008

        ya tell em your satan and you donated all your money on a sacrificial alter that had lawyers on it …

        OH and a few actor and musican heads….

    • Anonymous

      Say that my old IP is listed (I know it’s my old IP because I remember it by heart), but my IP has changed. What now??

      • Krozar

        Your ISP is required by law to keep logs of when you were using a specific IP. That’s why they list the time and date along with the IPs.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Still doesn’t point to a specific person, Krozar. With a home with a wireless router, it could be ANYONE in 300 feet of the home who did this.

        • Anonymous

          yes, but that defence doesn’t work because the MAFIAA already perverted the law

        • Krozar

          > “Still doesn’t point to a specific person, Krozar. With a home with a wireless router, it could be ANYONE in 300 feet of the home who did this.”

          As it stands in the real world, whoever’s name is on the bill is responsible for all activity and keeping the wireless secure. A lawyer who posted here on TF has an opposing theory on the matter: www(dot)ranallolawoffice(dot)com/archives/214

          However, unless you have hundreds of thousands of dollars to pursue such a theoretical defense against a large organization such as the RIAA/MPAA; then you’re out of luck.

        • 2e4t_

          “As it stands in the real world, whoever’s name is on the bill is responsible for all activity and keeping the wireless secure.”

          Awesome. With that legal precedent I should be able to break into Al’s house, steal his gun, shoot Bob, then blame it all on Al for getting his house broken into and Bob for getting himself shot. Dumbasses had it coming for not knowing better! LOL!

        • MadAsASnake

          … which is irrelevant if they started off with a fairly random list of ÍP’s in thefirst place. While the ISP matching is not likely to be awfully accurate, no trolling org has ever been prepared to show how they gather their IP’s. Quite frankly, a random number generater wouldn’t do much worse in my veiw.

    • Rplatypus

      Plus one this people, cause this exactly what you should do. Unless you are served with a subpoena or lawsuit, which is extremely unlikely, DO NOTHING.

    • gollu

      Rob8… says how to do it but can people of internet understand it, meantime I will watch that conan movie just need to go around TBP block (DONE), download magnet file (DONE), check trailer etc.(DONE), uh, film is cheap CRAP lucky that I downloaded for FREE.

      So why dont people pay for crap?

  • http://www.facebook.com/SexyBabesForum Brian Dougherty

    Will it be one big case or 2,165 individual cases if it individual cases there is no way they will have to time or money to fight each one. This is just dumb I think the movie did so bad they are just trying making up the sh**y boxoffice numbers by suing everyone they can find that download this can you say greedy bastards. Of all the 3D movies that have come out in the last 5 yrs this one had the worst boxoffice numbers

  • Goosmoo

    If I was busted for downloading that movie, I’d be embarrassed that people knew I had downloaded it. I’d rather be busted for downloading porn. lol

  • Anonymous

    What a waste of a download !!!
    Better to stick with the original REH Stories.

  • Tom Dunlap

    Hey!

    This is a darn good movie!

    (Worth $2,500 a pop easy)

    Thomas M. Dunlap of Dunlap Grubb & Weaver PC

    http://www.dglegal.com/thomas-m-dunlap

    • RoboTroll

      Tom DunLap: I had to kill Nick Kurtz because he made a mistake. Now it’s time to erase that mistake

      I am Robo-Troll!

      Reporter: Excuse me, RoboTroll, any special message for all the kids watching at home?

      RoboTroll: Don’t Download.

      RoboTroll: Excuse me, I have to go. Somewhere there is a download happening.

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/47974467/Mark%20Lutz%20Calls-Remix.mp3

  • Anonymous

    If you get sued by a sick company such as this, the best thing to do is ignore them. Do not answer their calls, do not answer their emails, just ignore them and continue with your life. It will cost them extra money to track you down and search for a bank account in your name. Indeed, 76% of all litigants never collect.

    • Krozar

      I’ve been sued many times (and lost). There are a lot of protections for you. In my state they can’t touch you house and vehicle nor your pay. Eventually they’ll sell it off to some collections firm in India. When they call you just say “I filed bankruptcy and my case number is 43-72210″ And they will typically never call back because they won’t do the research to see if it’s legit and/or applies to their judgement as they purchased it for a few buck anyways.

      • Logos

        Just be careful with the claiming bankruptcy part. That’s illegal, and the state can and will get involved if you get caught doing that.

        • Guest

          Which state and which law makes it illegal to say you filed Bankruptcy to an individual on the phone? Maybe you should think about rereading the statement. You can tell any Joe blow you filed bankruptcy(outside of a deposition in which you are sworn in) as long as you do not write it down and sign it.

        • KillerJon

          Just deny that you said that. Deny that this is you on the recording. That’s all.

  • http://twitter.com/FreePSDFinder FreePSDFinder

    lol what a sick company…
    trying to get more money from pirates then in the cinema…
    they were hoping for this.

  • Uhmhello

    Were these people using VPN’s???????????

    • Krozar

      No. It i a raw list of “Doe defendant” IPs that tie directly to an ISP (namely Comcast and Verizon).

      • 2e4t_

        at this point, not using a VPN in Amerika is like:

        - loading your car full of TNT and spent fuel rods and then driving drunk and blindfolded along the Grand Canyon with the accelerator to the floor
        - screwing every $5 snaggle-toothed disease-ridden hooker you can find without wearing a rubber
        - going to the restroom and dropping your pants to take a piss while there’s a Republican in there with you
        - insert example here

    • DC

      Obviously not using VPNs.

      But many of the IPs listed are right outside Washington DC. HA!

      Maybe some political toes getting “stepped on” by Tommy Boy? (Tom Dunlap)

  • someone@somewhere

    They should give the lawyer money to Conan to buy some protein and steroids for Conan 2. Never seen such a skinny dude play Conan

    • Ygig

      lol

  • Mako

    Comcast, Sprint, and Verizon… Interesting…

    • Krozar

      Not surprising for Comcast and Verizon considering how poor their customer service is. I had FiOS and trashed it for TWC once they upgraded their speeds to be similar with FiOS and I pay half as much for it. Before I switched to FiOS I had an issue of the speed going up and down a lot so I sent an email to TWC, a rep actually called me and seemed very intent on fixing it and wanted to send out a tech to check the entire apartment complex. By this time I had already switched to FiOS and IMO was a bad mistake. With Verizon it took 4 days longer to even install because the first tech was too lazy to even go through the gate. Then on a call they did the same thing. Was a wreck with them. Seems like they threat their customers the same when it comes with protecting them from BS suits.

    • Anonymous

      Its because these particular ISPs care the least about their customers. For all they care they can just hand all the personal info to the plaintiff on a silver platter, no questions asked.

  • popeye

    LOL this was interesting: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/millenium-films-logo-lawsuit-255867

    Quote ” In May, Bill Dawson, a graphic designer based in California, went to the movies and became upset when he saw the trailer for Conan the Barbarian. Dawson thought he spotted something familiar at the end of the preview in the lower left corner of the screen. Now, six months later, Dawson has filed a lawsuit that alleges that producer Millennium Films stole his graphic design to create its logo ” and guess who owns Millennium Films? hehehe

    Anyone knows what happend in this case?

  • Sesew

    Just because your movie failed at the box office doesn’t mean it’s okay to sue people.

  • popeye

    This is how the Nu Image = Millennium Films thiefs looks like:

    http://i39.tinypic.com/2l887rk.jpg

    • OutrageMcMurderspree

      I like that, well done popeye.
      Now looking for exploitable relatives in social networks…

      Let’s hurt their families.

  • Sh D

    F them all

    they think if we don’t download, we will buy. you are dreaming

    • Krozar

      SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!

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  • DTSLeech.com

    All of the defendants in this suit should counter-sue for “Conan the Barbarian” wasting their bandwidth on such a crappy movie. This is just a ploy to help sales on this movie as it was such a flop.
    _____________________________________________________________________
    DTSLeech.com

  • http://www.facebook.com/ValhallaLegend Andrew Lee

    I hope every single person takes it to trial and drags it out. Hit em where it hurts!

  • Jojo

    I thought they could not do this anymore. I thought that these included too many innocent people.

    • Krozar

      The crazy thing is if you don’t like someone you can simply add their IP into the list. How could they prove the contrary?

  • Anonymous

    fuck you USA

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Anthony-Stewart/100001126184172 Anthony Stewart

    If you take someones elses car and kill someone with it do the police look at the license plate find the owner and decide that they are the one whom commited the crime… no.

    The same can be said for an IP address, an IP address does not: point to or equal a person.

    • Krozar

      Allegory never works in law. It’s basically like this, IP’s aren’t the best instrument for catching infringers, but it’s the best one they have for mass-suits like this one. Thus, it works.

      • Anonymous

        until the law is fixed

        which is probably never because the lawmakers are all bought

    • DTSLeech.com

      If you take someone else’s car, with their knowledge, and kill someone with said care, then yes the owner of the vehicle can be held liable.

    • MadAsASnake

      … it’s a lot weaker than that. Depending on the collection method (and no troll firm has ever been prepared to reveal that) then it may point to the router that an infingement occurred on… but more likely not. There are cases in the UK where the ISP’s couldn’t resolve 50% of the IP’s. What is the likelyhood that the others are accurate? Idiots still sued… Use of IP data like this should be banned unless there is end-to-end tracing and it’s made immediately available to the accused.

  • Old School Guy

    Why people still watch shity movies from Bullywood is beyond me…

  • Rohe

    This movie bombed, so they want the money from the downloaders.
    hxxp://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=conan3d.htm

    If they settle with a huge amount of those 20.000 for $2500 a pop, this means true money. The pr0n industry is already doing it – and getting bad flak for that.

    Thats wrong on so many levels.

    • Anonymous

      Yes they spent $70 million on this movie. So how much did they earn back?

      $21,270,904 return = $48,290,096 loss

      S H I T S T O R M

  • CONAN

    I will WIN!
    I will find YOU!
    I will Destroy you!

    I AM CONAN!

    http://www.dglegal.com/dgw-blog/the-mechanic-conan-producers-hire-us-copyright-group.html

    • What is best in life?

      Conan! What is best in life?

      Conan: To troll your enemies, see them send extortion checks, and to hear the lamentation of their parents.

    • It’s a fit-up

      I will WIN!
      I will find YOU!
      I will Destroy your ass!

      I AM GAY CONAN!

  • DSS

    This shitty movie reflect very well US society – people are brainwashed thats like this kind of Shitywood and doesnt make difference between quality /garbage , so they are like sheeps , anyway wake up people dont pay anything – they cannot jail 2000 people, laws cannot be aplyed for mass people , think about what happen if they will wanna jail every person who download a movie ,a music track etc ,thats is imposibile , they dont have jailes for that , people who download media prducts are billions ,over the globe so how they think can fight with billions ? People also can refuse to pay taxes ,to work and so on they cannot force them , they can try but will gat back more anger , becouse mass people have the real power not they (they just lie itself and belive in a ilussion of power but they dont have it – see whats happen with all dictators or leaders who abuse and force mass people – they all fail becouse dont understand a simple thing – the dont have the power – mass people leave it to belive that , seems they dont learn nothing about who have real power and how it works – system , laws, and all thigs works becouse people are agree with that , when people say is enough then nothing and nobody can stop them , weapons bullets cant stop them , these will generate more anger , violence

    Is stupid and utopic to belive someone ,an agency , a gov , can do that , they cant do that becouse people will get more anger and finally will go on streets to make revolutions !
    So when mass people breaking the laws nobody can judge and jail them
    nowhere on this planet happen this , becouse laws is just a piece of paper without people consent , states exist becouse people decide to be united ,or loosing battles and give up to fight in this case is like they are agree , if in one day large groups will decide to split thats will happen finally even to doing that many people will die in fight – thats civil war , so states , laws ,goverments , exist becouse of mass people, becouse they are agree or accept that and dont fight against , after all mass people decide if they wanna respect laws or not if they wanna accept a leader or not ,many says people dont have freedom , im agree with that but then why they dont fight against system , why they dont take down corrupt leaders , why they accept to pay high taxes, , why dont stop to buy and dont boycott shitty or unfair products ( “toxic” drinks , “plastic” vegetables , alienated chinkens etc and all garbage food , product corporations maded in poor country , where people work to make these products like a slaves for few coins but corporations make huge profit when sale all of these at high price in US UE , why people accept exploatation of other people (which struggle to survive and have many problems ) ,why people accept to pay for wars , for develop weapons for army insted medicine research why accept to be enslaved and obedient why all of these why dont make revolutions ?
    History repeat over and over again , nothing changed ,2000 years ago happend the same , the same dirty corrupt system continue to exist today , and all these shit begin when man invent money

    Something is wrong here -people belive in lies more then in truth , people make efforts to deny truth – becouse the truth it hurts the truth is nasty and show us how we are in fact maybe we arent like that from the begining but now we are odd ,system win and make us to foget we are a social beeing we need help of others we need to help others we need to comunicate and share ideas knowledges culture to feeling better and evlove as a society , system transfom us in their puppets robots trolls syetem use propaganda, dehumanization ,manipulation ,control but i think we are qulity becouse we let that to happen becouse we let our odd basic instinct like a greed to dominate us , we let out hipocricy to explode (people dont like the wolrd where live , doesnt like polution but dont think whats they doing , dont like junk food but they buy and eat everyday , dont like crimes , wars but wach bad news ,movies about that , in fact people love to see that but not to be involved) thats what we are now we say dont like bad things but we like the show and scary to be involved , we see the world is on wrong way but doing nothing to change

  • Jamesd

    Who cares, prove the infringement took place studios. Displaying an ip address means fuck all. If there was an infringement, prove there was a transfer of data that was in fact your so called copyright shit.
    You know, every web page you look at is copyright infringement, as I make a copy of images on my pc. This is all bullshit.

  • Stan

    What a shit company Nu Image is…

    “As we previously reported, the makers of Conan the Barbarian are currently facing a lawsuit that alleges they don’t own rights to the character of Conan.”

    http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2011/08/stan-lee-sues-over-new-conan-the-barbarian-film.html

  • Raybran4

    New to this world. Do people in Canada have anything to worry about at the moment? Can these companies come after crazy canucks?

    ZT

  • Fralla2

    Here’s the email I’ve send to info@millenniumfilms.com (Nu Image) :

    Hi there,

    I must first start by saying I am a really big fan of many movies you’ve produced in the last couple of years. I’ve seen about all of them in theaters and bought allot of them in DVD/Blu-Ray too.

    That being said, let me get it straight :

    Starting TODAY,
    Since your guys seems to enjoy bringing thousands of people to court and going after the people who dares to share movies they liked even when a majority of them already paid for those movies and makes you good publicity,
    and since you spend all your time and money trying to pass Laws like the C-11 Bill and other Bill that aim to restrict Canadians and other people from the globe from downloading and sharing over the internet or even enjoying their legally boughts content the way THEY WANT,

    I WILL PERSONNALY HAVE TO STOP BUYING any CDs, DVD and GOING TO THEATER, for any related products made by YOUR COMPAGNY. I will also ask Family, Friends, Colleagues and other persons I know to do the same, and I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL because we are all tired of you guys trying to exploit us and the artists more and more.

    And I’m someone who buy around 20 to 30 music CDs a year, I go to the Cinema about once a Week and have around 500+ CD and around 300+ movies in my collection….

    Please think about it before asking the government to make your best consumers criminals….

    Thanks for your past products… and sorry that I won’t be one of your costumer anymore

    • Anonymous

      I don’t think Nu Image is gonna listen to this, or even care what you think.

      • techanon

        That’s their loss… literally.

  • Krozar

    I wonder how hard it would be to spoof an IP inside of a torrent swarm. Despite no data actually going to the spoofed IP since the actual user of that IP hasn’t initiated any connection with the torrent, it should still appear in the swarm, no? Essentially meaning it would be easy to frame someone.

    • MadAsASnake

      Effectively already happens. many IP’s you see in the list are fakes. When one gets sued (such as printers at UW) you know that the IP gathering process ain’t much better than a random number generator.

  • R8rfanizme

    I wonder if this is the first of fifty lawsuits, one for each state

  • Ahmede

    why not sue the fucking world, sue the internets assholes

    • Desu75

      Sue Jesus too. He stole the fish sandwich idea.

  • Wzhtjluv

    Oh my…

    How retarded of NU Image.

    We should be suing YOU, for taking an EPIC movie from the 80′s and “remaking” it into a pile of hot, steaming manure.
    What the hell LOSERS?

  • Goof

    66.87.84.27

    Sprint PCS
    New Jersey
    http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/66.87.84.27

    NOT MARYLAND

    Kurtz GOOF

  • Goof
  • Bates

    Dear Nu Image,

    I will never masturbate with my penis to any of your movies ever again.

    Sincerely,

    Bates

    • Vagina

      Just masterbate with your vagina

  • Goof

    66.87.83.222
    Bronx, New York
    http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/66.87.83.222

    • Animal

      OMG!

      66.87.83.222 is the BRONX ZOO!

      Fucking Animals downloading CONAN!

  • barexamquestion

    Hmmm ….

    So if I am using Sprint PCS Wireless Broadband
    and I am downloading CONAN
    while driving north

    do I get sued from south to north?
    multiple times (for each state)

    (good question for the bar exam!)

  • Anonymous

    I am finding this totally funny.

    Every movie we hate a lot is taking us to Court. What will Hollywood call their next movie… “Enjoy this movie or we will sue you”?

    Well as I said when I first watched this new “Conan The Barbarian” movie then if you want to make a Barbarian movie then learn what the public expect what a Barbarian is about.

    I can only say to Nu Image is to “give it up already”. Such court cases not only fail often but you just put yourself into the worst of the worst group called “blame everyone but yourself for making a weak movie”. So the public did not like your wet Barbarian pussy movie but we say to you “try it again, add some growl, make him a total evil bastard just getting through life, rape some bitches, kill some animals and drink their blood”

    Oh I give up. Enjoy your downloaded movie or be sued. Maybe one day they will figure out that good movies always made good money while poor movies will make poor money. Behold Avatar, $2 billion profit, hundreds of millions downloaded, zero sued.

    • techanon

      “Enjoy this movie or we will sue you” sounds like a good title for a documentary about the copywrong trolls’ racket.

    • Anon

      You appear to be saying that is a movie is profitable you should be able to dl it for free, and if you decide that it is crap, you should be able to dl it for free. Surely, this will go over big with the producers and the justice system.

      Ands if this is what passes for keen analysis and comment in the piracy debate, count yourself lucky to have TF to publish this stuff you puke up.

      • Anonymous

        No I am saying that any movie can be downloaded but only good movies will go on to make good profit. If a movie is good they will want to buy the DVD and BluRay and also tell their friends it is worth the cinema trip.

        Even without downloads word of mouth has always done this along with movie reviews. These days people are just more informed with a “try before you buy” infringed download and I would say IMDB’s rating is as good or as bad for movie’s profit as any download is.

        My point is why should bad movies be allowed to make good profit? Why should we reward failure? Would not rewarding bad movies make the creation market fail to improve?

        Then why should we pay to see movies blindly? Would they promise a refund at the end if we do not like it?

        All Nu Imagine is trying to do is to boost their movie income through speculative invoicing. They seem to forget that those who downloaded had an interest in their movie and some would have liked it enough to buy it. In other words attacking their customer base is not a good idea.

    • themerryreaper

      Avatar was pretty bad too. Have to admit that I downloaded that one and got halfway through it before I realised that I was watching an empty box with some flashy lights.

      Never even bothered to download this Conan thingymabob. It looked, sounded and smelled like a turd. Hell they didn’t even have enough material to make a misguiding trailer.

      Hollywood… it wont be the first nor last example of how decadence and arrogance are the prelude to the downfall.

      • Anonymous

        Well I would never say completely everyone would enjoy Avatar when some people do not even enjoy sci-fi, action and adventure.

        However since Avatar has made $2,782,275,172 return, the largest ever seen in movie making history (equal to 131 Conan movies), then your own view disagrees with the larger population of planet Earth who did enjoy it.

        Avatar did have a lot of good acting in it headed by Zoe Saldana’s Neytiri. Then yes there was a whole lot of amazing CGI.

        With that all said Avatar is nothing special in the story line either. It just follows well established steps to be a great movie. Even a guy in a wheelchair is know to be a good addition to help lead to Oscar success.

        At least now that is over they can be more flexible when it comes to the script of the sequels.

        • themerryreaper

          It’s a matter of taste indeed, but I dislike how you correlate box office returns to enjoyment. You have to have seen it before you can rate it.

          To me personally it just proves how badly we have lowered our standards. I’ve seen porns with stronger plots tbh. Even bloody “Fight Club” has become a cult movie and to me it is just slightly better than mediocre.
          I started downloading movies after I wasted money on being annoyed by the predictability and piles of clichés in the way over hyped “American History X”. Nowadays I usually can’t even be arsed to download movies unless the gf wants to watch some chick-flick.

          You are right though, unfortunately my taste differs strongly from the mainstream. Even when looking for porn I have to go to those “perverted” niche sites that allow fur and aren’t all about ATMs, DPs and DTs. How perverted am I?

          Jusqu’ici tout va bien.

  • HollywoodAnna

    The original movie was full of fail, and so they decided to remake that fail, and failed?

    • Wzhtjluv

      I guess a little girl who doesn’t get the meaning at all, would call the original “FAIL”

      LMAO

    • Anonymous

      the original is a trash classic

      this one is just trash

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  • http://complicityexpos.moy.su/ Complicity Exposer

    Well I hope they sue YouTube also, I saw it on there just the other day!

    And I don’t mean the one where you need to pay, it was freely available, and seeing as it is now the case where web sites are responsible for what its Users upload then YouTube should be in deep ….!

    And it’s not like it ain’t been there for long, it’s been up there since just before New Year!

    So why is YouTube (Google) getting sued!

    I’m just sick of all the Double-standards regarding corporations and their actions.

    Ciao

    • http://complicityexpos.moy.su/ Complicity Exposer

      “So why is YouTube (Google) getting sued!” should have read ….

      “So why is YouTube (Google) not getting sued!”

      Oops! :s

      Ciao.

  • Neros

    I doubt half the people will end up paying since alot of people downloading are poor in the first place hence why they downloaded the crap. Also they should be more worried about making a product people are willing to pay for and see bit torrents as a way of advertising there product and make money off toys and other products as a result from the movie.

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  • Anonymous

    lol, they deserve to be in court for downloading such a stupid movie lol.
    Gone-Anon.tk

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  • Muneeb Nibo

    This is what I think of these nuts that download without a proxy or vpn

    http://adfoc.us/4138183644

    hehe

    • SmartGuy

      Well, at the same time we have to thank them, the movie producers don’t have to look very far to be satisfied.

  • Sam12345

    They wont win anyway, so theres no problem.
    Is this a new way to make money from shit films, it seems to be.

  • http://twitter.com/rottedcockmeat rottedcockmeat

    how long does it usually take for a person to receive an infringement notice from the time they supposedly carried out the infringing act? week? month? more?

    • Anonymous

      It is likely to take between weeks or months and maybe never.

      Nu Image needs the Judge to agree so that they can Subpoena the ISPs for subscriber details. US Judges are very wary though due to the money making speculative invoicing and vast numbers they don’t take to Court. Subscribers who’s IP comes up tend to contact the Court to point out their innocence, flaws and what scum Nu Image are.

      NEVER PUT YOUR REAL NAME AND CONTACT DETAILS ON ANY CONTACT TO THE COURT. Just use John/Jane Doe number ### and some untraceable email address. If not done the Court would publish your letters giving the enemy the details they need to speculative invoice you.

  • http://twitter.com/spiritbx mathieu demers

    hmm if those people were NEVER going buy the movie or pay to see it, how much money did they actually lose? NOTHING!!!!!! and thats what these people should have to pay.

    simple reasoning no?

  • http://twitter.com/spiritbx mathieu demers

    oh also heres a guide to make money when you cant make good movies:

    1) make a movie about something somewhat popular or known
    2) track down everyone that illegaly dled it
    3) sue them all for a few thousands each
    4) …
    5) PROFIT!!!!
    6) Rinse and repeat til satisfied or assassinated.

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  • Bigttommy

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/49942069/Shirokov-v-Dunlap-Grubb-Weaver-First-Amended-Complaint
    Fighting Back
    Nonetheless, Defendants have sought to coerce settlements from the Class membersthrough the Letters and other communications on the basis of expressly barred claims. Many members of the Class and its proposed subclasses, responding to Defendants’ falseclaims, have been successfully extorted. They have paid settlements of $1,500 or moreand/or made other expenditures, unaware of the fraudulent registration and the deceptioncritical to the Copyright Scheme’s impact. Threatening Ineligible Remedies, theDefendants took advantage of the Class members’ shallow pockets and ignorance abouttheir potential defenses, and a discovery lawsuit filed in a jurisdiction far from wheremost Class members reside, in order to induce them into settling. Absent Defendants’false registration, false threats, and extortionate tactics, these four-figure “settlements”would not have happened.7Case 1:10-cv-12043-GAO Document 10 Filed 02/08/11 Page 7 of 98

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  • John

    It’s about time ISP’s woke up and realized they’re bigger than the small movie guys bullying them and their costumers.

  • http://twitter.com/ninformant ninformant

    how embarrassing it would be to get caught caught sharing this steaming pile of shit.

    • Your Mom

      haha!! ninformant I was thinking the same thing. The courts should show some kind of mercy to these freetards. Oh, thats right there will be no trial for 99% as the copyright trolls just want extortion money.

      Easy Money In 8 Simple Steps

      1. Make a shitty cheap movie (preferably porn)
      2. Apply for copyright (not receive, just apply or dont apply)
      3. Hire troll attorney (John Steele – Troll of the Year Award Winner)
      4. Monitor torrents (collect IPs)
      5. Subpoena ISPs
      6. Send harassing letters and phone calls
      7. Collect extortion money
      8. Trolls & movie producers burn in hell for eternity!

      • Your Mom

        mathieu demers I didnt actually see your post before I made mine. Please dont sue for copyright infringement.

  • Killer

    Hopefully they will be a killer among the “2,165 alleged downloaders” and that will be the end of nu image and their lawyers.

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  • Jake D.

    Didn’t see, didn’t download, but this picture convinced me this movie is bad.

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  • Dontm

    I can’t believe so many people downloaded this crapfest.

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  • Anonymous
  • Guest of a Guest

    Dem copyright trolls get to trolling. I am glad I left Comcast for another ISP and that I can use a VPN when I need that protection. Always run PeerBlock on top of that too.

    I liked the new Conan movie. Fuck you to those who did not dig the classic Swords and Wizards action. Did not torrent it, just file lockered it.

    I am never worried about my ISP and the IP matter:
    Fifth amendment says I don’t have to admit that any IP address listed is mine. So if the IP address in question is alleged to be mine, said from my ISP, and was used in torrenting a movie: Who cares? I would challenge the ISP to simply submit to a forensic accounting exam of all billable internet services in the past 24 months, past and current customers, and the IP addresses (static or not) associated to each paid account. I maintain they made a huge mistake. Not even in the IT area, in the book keeping realm the files were confused.

    Who does their IT? Who does their books? Who does their customer care and tech support? In house? Out sourced? Out sourced over seas?

    That is a shit load of paperwork for them, a look at the guts of their operation spilled and many liability issues opened up for them if they comply.

    All records would have to be made part of the court record and be public FOREVER. This would ensure extra oversight and accuracy. If they called my bluff, it would only cost me not even $4k USD to pull the trigger on that and get someone to audit the documents. I would never get the complete set of documents (to be sure) so that would be case dismissed there. I could then counter sue, once any appearance of a mistake could be found and there WOULD be one in their stack of paperwork for sure, and get my expenses back plus punitive damages for their wrongly coming after me.

    My being named in any suit would be removed at that point, by my ISP backing out or from the troll realizing this is not going to be a one way attack.

    When lawyers for big movie cocksucker comes at you will bullshit, fling bullshit back into their faces. Only the easy targets get pressed. If you fight back, or know how to fight back, you will be let alone. This is in addition to the precautions you can take to be sure you never get caught in the first place.

    Be smart! Never afraid.

  • TeQuiLa-Addict

    That movie sucked !!
    and they wanna make milllions in seattlmeant ?
    aghhhhh fuqqurz

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