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Confessions Of a BitTorrent Pirate Chasing Lawyer

Over the last year a handful of lawyers have sued well over one hundred thousand alleged BitTorrent users in the United States. Usually, when these lawyers respond to the press, if they even choose to do so at all, we are given only generic comments. Until now. In a quite revealing interview, Texas lawyer Evan Stone becomes the first of his kind to open the book on the motivations which see him going after “smarmy entitled little brats.”

evan stoneIn recent months we’ve written dozens of articles on copyright trolls and BitTorrent mass lawsuits, but we’ve heard little from the people who orchestrate these witch hunts.

Thanks to an interview arranged by Patrick Michels of the Dallas Observer we are now given the opportunity to get a little more personal with one of them. Even at six long pages it’s well worth the read, but for the time sensitive, here are the juicy parts.

Meet Texas Lawyer Evan Stone.

Stone is a Junior Attorney who describes himself as a programmer, filmmaker and musician. Together, these skills turn him into the perfect pirate chaser, or so he thinks. Suing tens of thousands of pirates is Stone’s destiny, and despite the fact that he hasn’t won a single trial case yet, he will continue this fight.

“I was born to do this shit,” Stone says. “I eat, sleep, breathe, shit this stuff.”

Despite the perfect fit, the Texas lawyer didn’t come up with the pay-up-or else schemes himself. It was another law firm that inspired him. When he read about the cases started by law firm Dunlap, Grubb and Weaver (who in turn were inspired by operations in Germany and the UK) he immediately knew that the wanted to follow in their footsteps.

At the time he was providing legal services to anime distributor FUNimation, where he recalls a fellow lawyer saying: “Wouldn’t it be great if we could do this?” Stone agreed, and in the months that followed he approached several content owners, offering his assistance.

Closer to home in the anime business, he didn’t have much success initially. Anime producers know that their audience can be characterized as being pro-BitTorrent. So, suing the very same people who also buy their content was probably not in their best interest, some may have thought. This meant that Stone had to try his luck elsewhere.

“I said, you know what, I know a whole bunch of people whose shit is pirated all the time that don’t give a fuck about bad press.”

And he was right.

Through his contacts at FUNimation, Stone got in touch with people in the porn industry who were happy to work with him. Not just because Evan Stone carries the name of a ‘huge’ porn star, but mainly because there’s some serious cash to be made.

The money is also one of the main motivators for Stone. He admits that he gets about 45% of the cash recouped through settlements, money he uses to take care of his family. But financial incentives aside, Stone thrives simply on his hatred of pirates.

Some of this grudge originates from early last decade when he founded a music company that was planning to sell MP3s. The timing was perfect, bands were interested and the first MP3-players were just hitting the mainstream. However, there was a slight problem that burst the bubble – a problem called Napster.

“My vendetta against pirates has been building for years and years,” he says, commenting on that history.

Back to the present day, Stone admits that he enjoys going after pirates, but the scheme has also met resistance from various sides. Among other issues, ISPs are putting up a fight, with some claiming they can only lookup a few IP-addresses a month. Stone doesn’t buy it.

“I know what’s involved, and it’s such horseshit for them to say they can’t get this stuff,” he says, later referring to them as “those fuckers” at Verizon and “those snakey fucks” at Time Warner.

Similarly, the porn industry hasn’t given him the love he was looking for either, at least not in a business way. The legal community in the porn business didn’t like the newcomer and turned against him. This is one of the reasons why Stone decided to pull out.

“Fuck the adult industry,” he says. “You can quote me on that,” he told the Dallas Observer journalist.

Stone is now looking for more mainstream clients to continue his business. According to him there is no shortage of pirates and plenty of publishers who want to make a few extra bucks after all. Interestingly enough, one of Stone’s latest clients is FUNimation, who sued 1337 BitTorrent users earlier this year.

And so this hatred-fueled battle of a generally likeable lawyer continues.

“I hate hardly anybody,” he says, “but when I think about pirates, I do tend to think about a lot of them as smarmy entitled little brats,” Stone says.

The above is just a small sample of the excellent piece just published in the Dallas Observer. We encourage everyone who’s interested in more background on Stone to have a read.

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  • Guest

    LOL

    • Joseph Ryan

      I’m glad there are folks like Evan Stone out there. After all, it only takes one ultra greedy prick to ruin it for everyone. It is lawyers like him that will ultimately help the pirate cause more than anything else. That is one of the great things about law, the scales of justice are always in motion. Eventually the pendulum must swing in the other direction, and it is the likes of this man and his ilk that will help speed up this process. So a big LOL is indeed the most appropriate response I can think of after reading this article. That and a big thank you to Evan Stone for showing the entire world once and for all what truly motivates you and all the other petty, greedy lawyers.

      • http://profiles.google.com/clsilver Jeff K

        Well said

  • Jeroen

    Wow, what a personality! This dude hasn’t only the name of a ‘huge’ pornstar, he also got a ‘huge’ ego! I really don’t get this guy, I mean, he is proud of stomping out people who download ‘illicit’ art — that’s ninty percent of Amerika’s and Europe’s inhabitants! He has some major issues, and if I ever meet him IRL, I would suggest he’d visit a shrink!

    Oh, and a little offtopic, this is a very interesting read, and I am going to read the full interview!

    • Comrade

      if he lived in my country his big mouth would have him already 6 feet under

  • Jeroen

    Wow, what a personality! This dude hasn’t only the name of a ‘huge’ pornstar, he also got a ‘huge’ ego! I really don’t get this guy, I mean, he is proud of stomping out people who download ‘illicit’ art — that’s ninty percent of Amerika’s and Europe’s inhabitants! He has some major issues, and if I ever meet him IRL, I would suggest he’d visit a shrink!

    Oh, and a little offtopic, this is a very interesting read, and I am going to read the full interview!

  • CatchMe

    The new line of ambulance chasers has emerged. Or… just some pervert trying to find a way to get closer to his porn star idols lmao.

  • Fantafaust

    So basically, he’s butthurt because one of his early business ventures didn’t work out as hoped. So now he’s attempting to get revenge on people who are only related to the incident-not likely involved. Way to be a douche, Evan Stone. Early business ventures not working out is, you know, a part of life. Not everyone is ridiculously lucky.

  • Peroivin

    talk,talk,talk.

  • hotsunr

    Well this man has got some serious problems. He seems to hate everyone – the pirates, the isp’s , even the content companies that don’t want to sue. I am pretty sure he is a sad little man who was bullied in school and is taking out his frustrations on the P2P community

  • hotsunr

    Well this man has got some serious problems. He seems to hate everyone – the pirates, the isp’s , even the content companies that don’t want to sue. I am pretty sure he is a sad little man who was bullied in school and is taking out his frustrations on the P2P community

    • Marcus

      He even publically slagged off his former clients.
      I can’t see him getting any new ones soon.

    • Anonymous

      So true… he’s definitely the sort of person who was beaten at school. Word to you Mr Stone just because you’re a junior lawyer makes you only a tiny bit taller than when you were at school. We are still smarter, better looking and faster than you so you will still be the last one picked, the last one loved and the first one going down.

  • LOL

    what a douche-bag. if your music popular, it will be popular in real life and bittorrent. if your music suck ass, dont go blaming the napster, it wont be popular there either.

    sick guy

  • LOL

    what a douche-bag. if your music popular, it will be popular in real life and bittorrent. if your music suck ass, dont go blaming the napster, it wont be popular there either.

    sick guy

  • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

    Given this gentle, FUN-loving, educated and talented man who also has a qualification in law (and allegedly allowed to practice IRL too), would you honestly and genuinely trust him unreservedly 100% to represent you in Court?

    Would you hire him to ensure your personal and/or business interests are fully and legally understood, protected and represented by this multi-functional man who can apparently grow a beard and raise his hand to shoulder height at the same time?

    This “qualified” waste of space has NEVER represented a case in Court that went to full trial. He’s just another scam-merchant trying to “feed his family” by scavenging and picking on the weak and the poorest in the USA whilst giving his own clients little or no justice.

    This Evan Stone copywrong troll is a prime example of the Bandwagon set of opportunistic, stupid lawyers who think they can make BIG bucks by extorting people via threats of Court action.

    He’s a LOSER before he even starts any cases – and no doubt he’ll try to make more money by tracking me down and defaming him – coz that’s just how the law works. Isn’t it Mr Stone? You fuckwit!!!

    • Anonymous

      lol… funny rant… And….

      ( oh technicality’s…. have to stoop to your level mr **** the lawyer ))
      …(libel dictates I am generalizing with the following statement : )

      Being a Lawyer trying to EXTORT , money from people is just low bastard.
      Doing it over worthless info… Makes you a greedy low bastard.
      Hiding behind technicality’s… etc…. Real big… asshole , greedy low bastard.

      Watchin a Real big… asshole , greedy low bastard ……….
      going out of business and ruining his own career…. Priceless….

      Gonna enjoy watchin this fall from grace…. like I did with ACSLaw…
      Crossley’s still waiting in line for that coffee in the train station : )

    • Glowerous

      Agree.

      This a means to and end for an otherwise inept individual.

      Having never won a case he is using the media platform to milk as much publicity as posible in the hope he can hook a Big Fish studio contract. His blatant loathing of ‘pirates’ is a smoke screen, a cover to bolster his ego for his own inability to develope a pay per download music site.

      There is a nice article on how he likes to sue people for downloading porn.

      http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110201/02582912905/mass-copyright-lawsuit-lawyer-petulantly-drops-lawsuit-after-called-out-apparent-ethics-violations.shtml

      Slimy little blighter lives off others fear of being shamed, not for criminal wrongdoing.

      ACSLaw were felled by their own incompetence and arrogance.

      Let us hope this one goes the same way. Soon.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah the poor, teased and lonely little boy trying to make friends with the music industry by saying he also hates us. Suing the poor and innocent to get media attention because it seems even a decent law firm doesn’t want anything to do with him. Even the porn industry puked him out…

    • Whatever

      As he is a scammer his “qualifications” are probably greatly overrated.

      This is the ultimate parasite, one of the first that need to end on the bottom of the sea with a nice block of concrete. These kind of creatures do not bring ANY gain to civilization. They just waste oxygen.

      (You know what, i can also argue programmer, musician and filmmaker. As long as you don’t ask too many difficult questions about backing it up.)

  • qwerty

    “The legal community in the porn business didn’t like the newcomer and turned against him. This is one of the reasons why Stone decided to pull out.”

    Pun intended? :)

    • YouWouldntDownloadAToilet

      Well, ya know, sex is like a bank – one you withdraw ya lose interest…

      • bobdolesays

        wow, you fucked that up… women are like a bank account – quick deposit, early withdrawal, lose all interest

        • http://crashsuit.blogspot.com crashsuit

          I think you meant to say “time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.”

          #corrections

        • Mudkip

          and then john was a zombie.

        • Mudkip

          and then john was a zombie.

        • bobdolesays

          nah, even tho yours is different, it still holds to congruity of the joke. I wrote that simply because the way he put it makes sex sound boring. Could be true for the previous poster, but who gives a fuck I guess.

        • http://crashsuit.blogspot.com crashsuit

          facepalm.jpg

  • Abuse

    And it was so sad that the “reporter” did not want to look any further into matters.
    Because he is a fine upstanding lawyer who has not broken the law repeatedly to try and extort money, lying about copyright filings, lying to people about damages, lying about subpoenas. That is all because they are out to get him, not because hes incompetent.

    I wonder how much he paid for that wonderful puff piece to be run.

    • Abuse

      Sad I am… pointing out all of the things Stones done wrong got deleted form the comments.
      I guess hiding the fact your coverboy has done something illegal, rather than just accusations, is more important to people who don’t do research.

    • Abuse

      Sad I am… pointing out all of the things Stones done wrong got deleted form the comments.
      I guess hiding the fact your coverboy has done something illegal, rather than just accusations, is more important to people who don’t do research.

    • Abuse

      Sad I am… pointing out all of the things Stones done wrong got deleted form the comments.
      I guess hiding the fact your coverboy has done something illegal, rather than just accusations, is more important to people who don’t do research.

  • Abuse

    And it was so sad that the “reporter” did not want to look any further into matters.
    Because he is a fine upstanding lawyer who has not broken the law repeatedly to try and extort money, lying about copyright filings, lying to people about damages, lying about subpoenas. That is all because they are out to get him, not because hes incompetent.

    I wonder how much he paid for that wonderful puff piece to be run.

  • Abuse

    And it was so sad that the “reporter” did not want to look any further into matters.
    Because he is a fine upstanding lawyer who has not broken the law repeatedly to try and extort money, lying about copyright filings, lying to people about damages, lying about subpoenas. That is all because they are out to get him, not because hes incompetent.

    I wonder how much he paid for that wonderful puff piece to be run.

  • Cgimusic

    “I hate hardly anybody, but when I think about pirates, I do tend to think about a lot of them as smarmy entitled little brats”.

    So he only hates about two-thirds of the population then.

    • Anonymous

      And..
      “”smarmy entitled little brats”" … sounds like the industry…. trying to sell us something that can be copied endlessly .. hence has zero value.

      The industry are the ones who feel “”entitled”" , to sell us worthless information.

      Sharing worthless information isn’t wrong. Selling it is !

      Being a Lawyer trying to EXTORT , money from people is just the lowest of the low.

    • Anonymous

      Lol I noticed that too. But what I found truly amusing is the following:

      “I hate hardly anybody,” he says. And just before that we get the following bits of hatred from him.

      “those fuckers” at Verizon and “those snakey fucks” at Time Warner

      “Fuck the adult industry,” (when the legal side of the industry didn’t welcome him with open arms)

      Man, the dude has some serious anger issues. BUT, he hates hardly anybody. ; )

      • YouWouldntDownloadAToilet

        Yup, he’s bad at maths so he rounds down any number less than 100% to 0%…

        …so rounding 99% down to 0% could mean “hardly anybody”

    • Anonymous

      Lol I noticed that too. But what I found truly amusing is the following:

      “I hate hardly anybody,” he says. And just before that we get the following bits of hatred from him.

      “those fuckers” at Verizon and “those snakey fucks” at Time Warner

      “Fuck the adult industry,” (when the legal side of the industry didn’t welcome him with open arms)

      Man, the dude has some serious anger issues. BUT, he hates hardly anybody. ; )

    • Anonymous

      Psh. More than that. Pretty much EVERYONE is a pirate.

      According to distribution and copyright laws you cannot do the following.

      1) Ever seen a movie at school for some kind of treat or something? I remember we did that all the time. I didn’t know my teachers were breaking the law by showing us the movie in a public place! That’s against the law because they didn’t have permission to use it! (note: albeit in school, watching Mickey Mouse is CLEARLY not educational!)

      2) As Bainwol so clearly told us, apparently we can’t even burn our CDs onto our computer and onto iTunes, because that’s putting the music the “artists did not wish it be on.”

      • Anonymous

        My former school once showed movies like “Watership Down” and “The Cat from Outerspace.” I am sure though they did it with approval when they sold tickets.

        Less authorised was when I did further education and the son of a video store rental business brought his favourite titles to the center for all to watch during the lunch breaks. We saw many good movies then including Wierd Science.

        So it varies but people can put on a licensed public showing but it would mean ticket sales to claw back the cost. An option some overlook because they are not a major movie theatre.

        • Whatever

          Watership Down ? I guess the teacher wanted to save you from reading the huge book. :-)

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

    I wonder how you can suffer from sharing, when most who share wouldn’t ever buy it, even if it was the only option… it’s a community thing, people like sharing, and even more so if it won’t cost them anything, just like most will break the law if it gets them what they want, or get it to them (or them to it) faster. for many, it’s free or forget it.

    and politicians can shut up, most of them will do anything for some quick cash..
    darn humans and their corruption..

    and start suing schools, they’re sharing movies and music more than most people!
    no, most of what they show comes from one of the teachers homes, not licensed to show at the school. (even in the disclaimer it says it’s not legal to show it in groups or at public locations or something like that)

  • John1891

    Evan Stone is a morbidly obese child molester. Look at his fat pedophile ass. He rapes 5 year old’s for sure. :D

    Tubby cunt.

    • http://toby7728.myopenid.com/ TT7728

      Inb4 slander lawsuit.

      • noko

        The comment is online, so it’d be libel, not slander.

      • Anonymous

        Can someone tell me what it was? :P I’d like to know!

        • http://toby7728.myopenid.com/ TT7728

          It was calling him (Evan Stone) an “obese child molester” and a paedophile… Which isn’t a clever thing to say about a lawyer. :p

        • Paul

          Lawyer or not, you don’t say that about anyone who obviously isn’t. Comments like that can ruin someone’s career or life. There is a line you don’t cross!!

      • Samanth9

        NO! John1891 was right… Evan Stone HAS been accused of child grooming and child molestation… of his niece.. he is most likely a pedophile…

      • Samanth9

        NO! John1891 was right… Evan Stone HAS been accused of child grooming and child molestation… of his niece.. he is most likely a pedophile…

    • Jayell

      This comment is terrible and should be deleted. We may not agree with the man but that’s no excuse for this.

  • SteRipper

    WAIT – THAT’S Evan Stone ?
    Aw Crap, I burned all those DVD’s For nothing. :S

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  • Xetrill

    A programmer?! I am one and sharing our work is so incredibly essential to us, just like air is for everyone. We would not get any shit done otherwise.

    And besides being insulted by him calling himself a programmer, I also wonder why he thinks it’s napster’s fault he didn’t succeed and not his one? …

    I honestly hate such weak minded people. Do you think he even knows words such as solidarity or empathy?

  • Momo

    Notice the basic formula:

    - Hates pirates for his own personal failures
    - Selfish and Opportunistic
    - Temper
    - Irrational sense of superiority
    - Bottom-feeding lawyer
    - Copyright troll

    This is exactly the kind of guy that spends his days trolling TorrentFreak, telling people that copyright should trump people’s liberties.

    • Anon

      “go Evan.”

      lol

    • Anon

      @Momo.
      For the record Momo, you don’t pay attention.

      I’ve never said “copyright should trump people’s liberties.” I’ve said these sorts of things are sorted along legal lines and until pirates get their stuff together with quality representation and bring consistent and compelling, legal arguments on why the laws should change, you’ll be hunted and punished. “Argh, we be pirates and you can’t stop us.” isn’t going to cut it.

      And so far, that really seems to be about the best you’ve got. Well, that and Rickard Falkvinge. ;-)

      All unlawful online behavior is being grouped together, Momo; bank fraud, phishing, infringement, kid porn, bullying, digital misrepresentation, illegal copying and distribution, you name it, and it is all being addressed together.

      So what I’ve actually said, Momo, is the process towards truncating our freedom and hence our ability to do these sorts of things online is already underway and your sense of “liberty” will not be an obstacle towards moderating illegality. Nowhere in history has this ever been true and I’m betting it’s not true here either. They’ll take their time, sure, but I’d even venture to say it won’t be an obstacle in almost every culture and society, given the time to sort this out.

      That process towards enforcement will never stop, either, it will grow more strict with every passing year, taking our liberties with it until you stop. And I don’t think you, you collectively I mean, will ever. So you are handing these justifications to government on a silver platter. And I’m enjoying watching how foolish and fundamentally ignorant you all are.

      I’ve also said our modern concept of privacy is not an inalienable right because it isn’t, it’s a privilege you can lose if you abuse it. And in fact, we are ALL losing it because pirates still abuse it. Truth is Momo, most of you don’t even realize the “presumption of innocence” doesn’t even apply here. THAT’s how poor your understanding is of these issues. “Innocent until proven guilty” is a burden-of-proof threshold for criminal cases, but infringement is a civil infraction. 51% of the evidence pointing towards a likelihood of guilt and you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. That’s how civil infraction works.

      I don’t think Evan Stone and his ilk are showing the way forward, frankly. But just wait until the costs of internet law enforcement begin to show up on subscribers bills, the way the UK ISP’s are now in for 25% of the cost, undoubtedly passed along to subscribers. As this spreads, pirates personally will be paying the costs of hunting themselves down. lol So infringe while you still can. And pay closer attention.

      • Anonymous

        You have so little foresight and creativity (lol @ calling yourself creative industry) that you are always going to lose. Specially in technology for example: One big wifi that could cover a city would make us unstoppable. If you knew what was coming next you would know we have already won. They lost when the first computer was made and we are just living the history of they died.

      • Anonymous

        You have so little foresight and creativity (lol @ calling yourself creative industry) that you are always going to lose. Specially in technology for example: One big wifi that could cover a city would make us unstoppable. If you knew what was coming next you would know we have already won. They lost when the first computer was made and we are just living the history of they died.

      • Momo

        “For the record Momo, you don’t pay attention.”

        It’s YOU who doesn’t pay attention. I’ve addressed your arguments, but you continue to make them.

        “All unlawful online behavior is being grouped together, Momo; bank fraud, phishing, infringement, kid porn, bullying, digital misrepresentation, illegal copying and distribution, you name it, and it is all being addressed together.”

        I’ve said, repeatedly, that you shouldn’t blame pirates if they are being used to push through internet surveillance. The people who are not abiding a bad law (in this case, copyright) are not the villains, they are victims too. The people trying to get the surveillance through are the real villains (the people you always refer to as “them” or “they” in your comments), along with the politicians are also to blame for neglecting their duties, and the general public for their passiveness and ignorance.

        Can you not see that even if pirates completely stopped infringing copyright, all the other scapegoats you mention will quickly be used in their place? Piracy is entirely inconsequential in the long scheme of things, and if people get to ignore a bad law while they still can, no loss and no gain. Indeed, you are an idiot for flaming at the pirates… other than to get them off their lazy asses, which would actually make you a good guy.

        “I’ve also said our modern concept of privacy is not an inalienable right because it isn’t, it’s a privilege you can lose if you abuse it.”

        Right there. You are doing it again. An unfair and unnecessary law such as copyright should under no stretch of the imagination trump privacy, a natural right. I’m not a lawyer and I couldn’t care less about your interpretation of US law, however I am sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that when copyright is at odds with privacy, privacy should win.

        • Anon

          Momo wrote:
          “The people who are not abiding a bad law (in this case, copyright) are not the villains, they are victims too.’’

          Ah yes, Momo, let’s all pity the poor pirates doing their civic duty, ignoring the laws they feel entitled to ignore. Good plan. That’s really cogent thinking and why the situation is as screwed up as it is. I remember you actually comparing this earlier to fighting slavery. I guess the fact that civil rights leaders braved firehoses and lynchings out in public but pirates get hard drives full of free music and movies while hiding on VPN’s on the internet is just, y’know, incidental. Right? But certainly, in your view they are so morally equivalent. Poor pirates.

          “Can you not see that even if pirates completely stopped infringing copyright, all the other scapegoats you mention will quickly be used in their place?”

          I can. That’s something we can agree upon. But Momo, can point out any time anywhere when a rampart form of lawlessness (any form) did not compel tighter scrutiny and harsher restrictions? Think for a second. You are suggesting “bank fraud, phishing, infringement, kid porn, bullying, digital misrepresentation and infringement” as mere scapegoats?? Really? Does that make high-speed car chases mere scapegoats to the laws surrounding that behavior? Is counterfeiting a mere scapegoat to our counterfeiting laws? Or is physical violence a mere scapegoat to assault? You are breathing different air, Momo. Come back to earth.

          “I’m not a lawyer and I couldn’t care less about your interpretation of US law, however I am sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that when copyright is at odds with privacy, privacy should win.”

          Well then, you are not a lawyer and bully for your blind certainty. The facts are quite different. No form of unlawful behavior becomes permitted because you can hide while doing it and you have a lot to learn. Tell you what. Charles Nesson would probably be thrilled to hear your interpretation of these statutes. Tell Joel to explain it to the judge that his infringement is no different and no worse than asking Walmart to copy their cd’s, but they can keep the originals so no harm is done and privacy laws must protect him while he does it. I’m sure that’ll go over bigtime and you’ll be lauded for your trenchant insight.

        • Momo

          “let’s all pity the poor pirates doing their civic duty, ignoring the laws they feel entitled to ignore.”

          I didn’t say pirates are doing a civic duty or anything like that. The point is, copyright is a bad law since it tries to do something impossible — to restrict the copying of files in a world full of computers that can copy files in seconds, over a network that was created for the purpose of copying files. Pirates, who are generally computer-literate people, see the immense potential of those new tools and as a result are also conscious of how patently absurd it is to try to control what files people copy. It’s unnatural for pirates to live in the confines of that bad law like it’s unnatural for a bird to live in a cage.

          “I guess the fact that civil rights leaders braved firehoses and lynchings out in public but pirates get hard drives full of free music and movies while hiding on VPN’s on the internet is just, y’know, incidental.”

          Even though pirates do not face the same dangers faced by the slaves, pirates do face dangers. You must have noticed how pirates are defying worldwide persecution.

          It’s of course not my intention to belittle the slaves’ struggle for their rights, but to point out that when the natural rights of people are suspended by oppressive laws, those people are most certainly entitled to fight back.

          Today, copyright with its copying-restricting stuff, the anti-circumvention stuff, the privacy-infringing stuff, the expression-limiting stuff etc is seriously eroding what the public can do with their property and their bodies, as well as a host of other rights I’ve gone over many times already.

          Pirates, who like I said are generally more computer-literate, are a reflection of tomorrow’s internet users. They are the first ones to start to feel the effects of copyright, and there’s no question that as internet penetration and computer literacy improve, the number of people affected will also rise (possibly exponentially).

          “You are suggesting “bank fraud, phishing, infringement, kid porn, bullying, digital misrepresentation and infringement” as mere scapegoats??”

          You forgot infringement. And, yes. Laws already exist to deal with the crimes you mention. The kind of internet surveillance you advocate is only needed to restrict the sharing of information, to kill off privacy and basically to give governments tighter control over what their people think and say. It’s way beyond what is reasonable or necessary to deal with those crimes, and it’s just another chapter in the “Patriot Act” saga to turn western democracies into crypto-totalitarian states.

          “Well then, you are not a lawyer and bully for your blind certainty. The facts are quite different. No form of unlawful behavior becomes permitted because you can hide while doing it and you have a lot to learn.”

          I’m not a lawyer, but I’m neither stupid nor uninformed.

          Unlike you, I understand the law is written by fallible people, and it is a living thing. It can change when it must, such as when disruptive technologies come along that require entrenched business interests to adapt or die.

          I also understand that the legal technicalities you talk about are completely irrelevant since the copyright battle is no longer a legal battle but a political one.

        • Anon

          “The point is, copyright is a bad law since it tries to do something impossible.”

          1) By that reasoning, every law is bad law because it is impossible to eradicate any unlawful activity. Now you are just being arbitrary instead of smart. Your contention has no merit because it is utterly without a point.

          “those people are most certainly entitled to fight back. “

          2) Agreed. I never said you are not entitled to fight back. But creative artists and rights holders exercise the same privileges and there’s the rub. I suggest you consider fighting back in lawful ways that gather respect and influence instead of hiding and sneaking about, filling secret harddrives full of pilfered entertainment. I’m not complaining you are fighting back, Momo, so you might stop complaining that rights holders—artists and industries— are pursuing their rights to the fullest extent under the law, too.

          “seriously eroding what the public can do with their property and their bodies,”

          Do whatever you want with your body. I couldn’t care less. Read the EULA’s if you don’t understand what a licensing agreement is and how that does not confer property rights. Don’t buy it if you don’t agree with the EULA and let the product wither in the marketplace. Do without or make your own products and license them as you wish But if you pay for it and willfully, knowingly disregard the EULA “stop complaining rights holders are pursuing their rights to the fullest extent under the law.” You just bring this on yourself, while you want to be respected for your intellect.

          “It’s way beyond what is reasonable or necessary to deal with those crimes.”

          I hear you and respect your right to express your opinion. The governments of the world appear not to agree. The industries being ripped off certainly don’t appear to agree either. The artists who are being enjoyed but not compensated for their work in creation don’t appear to agree with you either. I don’t agree with you either. Build a case that evidences your beliefs with a majority of the people behind it and then take it to your government or recognize that’s all it’ll ever be, just your belief. Also recognize the distinction between your right to free speech, to openly state your beliefs which I believe in, and your “right to free files”, which remains unlawful in almost every global jurisdiction.

          “It can change when it must, such as when disruptive technologies come along that require entrenched business interests to adapt or die. “

          Entrenched business interests will do neither. As far back as March 2006, digitally recorded “U.S. INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY was valued at $5.5 trillion, equal to 47% of our GDP and greater than the GDP of any other nation but China.”** That figure will only grow in the years ahead and so there is a decision to make, Momo. Digital IP is the basis of modern economy. Either digital files are free with zero cost as you say they must be or they are copyrighted (or patented) and not free, with laws, surveillance and law enforcement to whatever degree is necessary. I don’t think this is terribly complicated, actually. You might.

          ** http://motherjones.com/politics/2006/03/intellectual-property-run-amok

          It’s a legal battle. The Pirate Party is infinitesimal and for a political coup you need more than half the world to permanently walk away from trillions and the very basis of global economy. There is going to come a time when you have to raise your game, Momo, and see the bigger picture. I don’t expect that moment to be now, by the way, but there’s no harm in you beginning to embrace reality.

        • FuzzyDuck

          “By that reasoning, every law is bad law because it is impossible to eradicate any unlawful activity. ”

          I am sure you realize that there are laws that can be enforced to a large degree and those that can’t. It has to do with how large the segment of society is that engages in the banned activity. So while most people are happy not to be allowed to murder their neighbor, very few are happy not be allowed to drink for instance. If alcohol consumption could realistically be banned it would have happened already (hell they tried and even put the ban in the US constitution at the time).

          It’s the same shit with copying. Everyone does it, intentionally or not (even copyright maximalists get caught breaking their own rules). Such laws basically criminalizes everyone and are therefore truly unenforceable.

          “I suggest you consider fighting back in lawful ways”

          Yeah lol, the MAFIAA bought those laws, they deserve no respect. As long as lobbyist are allowed to buy our politicians, there is no moral high ground in the law.

          My own moral guidelines tell me that it is wrong to try to bankrupt and destroy the lives of a few randomly chosen people to make an example out of them. It may be the law, but it’s clearly not right and has no moral basis.

          My moral guidelines also tell me that punishing a whole family by cutting off their Internet (like in New Zealand and France) for something that one family member may have done is immoral and amounts to collective punishment.

          So yeah, sorry but f*ck those MAFIAA laws.

          And what’s more when the MAFIAA is actively engaged in destroying people’s lives and punishment of innocent people through collective punishment, then I think we have a moral duty to try to destroy the MAFIAA before it makes even more victims.

          That’s moral justification enough never to pay for any MAFIAA product again. Personally I’d prefer if we all stopped listening to and watching their shit, and we should all stop promoting MAFIAA products to our friends or on the web.

        • Aenon

          It is my duty as a free citizen to disobey copyright laws as they do not represent the best interests of the people of this country. Laws should only be followed if they benefit society, but copyright laws limit the preservation of culture and harm our cultural and artistic development and through their enforcement, copyright trolls intend to limit our human and civil rights by invading our privacy and restricting our ability to communicate freely.

        • Momo

          A few of quick points.

          “But creative artists and rights holders exercise the same privileges and there’s the rub”

          Property + privacy of everyone > monopoly privileges of the few.

          “Do whatever you want with your body.”

          Ok, I want to play my guitar and sing. Oh wait, it’s illegal to do those things in public without paying a license fee.

          “Read the EULA’s if you don’t understand what a licensing agreement is and how that does not confer property rights.”

          EULAs are enforced with contract law (a screwed up part of contract law) and I wouldn’t knowingly buy a device with a licensing agreement removing my property rights (Apple and Sony, take heed). As for software, I use FOSS. Copyright, however, is a “contract” somehow written into law that I seem to have signed at birth without my knowledge. Such a one-sided contract goes against every rule of a free market, and in a world full of computers it goes against my property rights. Fuck that law, it needs to go.

          “The artists who are being enjoyed but not compensated for their work”

          Citation needed. Overall music and film industry revenues are growing year on year. The Metallicas and KISSes of the world may complain, but they aren’t typical artists.

          “Digital IP is the basis of modern economy.”

          And then you wonder why the US is being bought out by the Chinese. An economy based on imaginary, untaxed property isn’t really an economy.

          “It’s a legal battle.”

          How is it a legal battle when you’re arguing about your country’s GDP?

        • Anonymous

          @The copyright troll Reasoned Mind pretending to be “Anon”

          “Ah yes, Momo, let’s all pity the poor pirates doing their civic duty, ignoring the laws they feel entitled to ignore.”

          To ignore or break unjust laws IS the civic duty of every man, woman, and child. Otherwise, they and their countrymen are doomed to live under a state of ceaseless, wall-to-wall injustice because nobody has the courage to fight back and change things.

          “Ignoring the laws they feel entitled to ignore” is the reason why there isn’t a law saying black people have to sit at the back of the bus or drink at separate fountains from white people anymore.

          “Ignoring the laws they feel entitled to ignore” is the reason why many countries are no longer a British colony, including the USA.

          “Ignoring the laws they feel entitled to ignore” is the reason why 20th Century Fox exists and largely the reason why Hollywood itself exists.

          “Ignoring the laws they feel entitled to ignore” is why prohibition ended.

          “Ignoring the laws they feel entitled to ignore” is why women aren’t stoned to death anymore in most parts of the world.

          If people, and I use the term loosely, like you had their way we’d still be living under the murderous, hyper-oppressive theocracies that most societies have managed to progress from thanks to ignoring their laws. The truth is, the whole filesharing “war” is actually just another minor battle in a war that’s been going on for all of human history and will never end.

          It’s the war of those who want progress versus those who want to hold back progress because they happen to profit from the status quo.

          The good news is that we won this particular little battle, the filesharing battle, before it even began. You’ve lost that one completely and it’s pretty funny to watch you delude yourself into thinking otherwise. The bad news is that no side will ever ultimately defeat the other. There’s always, ALWAYS, going to be the proverbial outlaws driving cars and the buggy-whip industry trying to stop them.

          That’s the big picture.

        • http://www.rpgmaster.wordpress.com/ RPG Master

          *copies and pastes into notebook for further use*
          Thank you for the wonderful explanation.

  • Paul

    His head is upside down

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      It’s also up his ass.

      • Knowsmorehtanuthink

        is the way you like it.. right FAG?

        • Paul

          Oooooooh, that was low!!

        • Paul

          Oooooooh, that was low!!

  • John Space

    “describes himself as a programmer, filmmaker and musician.”
    Hell hath no fury like a failed artist. Isn’t it, Adolf?

  • Truther

    He gives a very professional impression!

  • Rya

    I like the part where he says he eats shit!
    LOL!
    (Kind of what I pictured he did anyway : p )

  • http://toby7728.myopenid.com/ TT7728

    He’s just playing the blame-game for his own failed musical career.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly
    • GreyWolf

      Maybe hes Crossley’s love child???

      • Anonymous

        Then his mom would have to be a dog.

      • Anonymous

        Then his mom would have to be a dog.

    • Ugly American

      Too bad his hair is on the wrong side of his head.

      Fatso should look into this:
      http://www.hairclub.com/

  • None

    Anyone else get chuckle that they sued 1337 people?

  • Marcus

    Another big mouth who has just shot himself in the foot.
    If I were a content provider the last person I would want representing my interests is this unstable, vindictive, foul mouthed liability.

  • Dr_Faustus

    The ambulance chasers of the modern digital age. Even panhandling by the freeway on-ramp is a more efficient business model.

    • Marcus

      It’a also a more dignified one.

  • hotdog

    lol smarmy is that like a made up word?seems like all the industries are rejecting him he should stick to eating food and getting fat.Let me catch him on a dead end street.:P

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      He can’t, he’s too busy eating shit (and given his head’s so far up his own ass, it’s his own shit he’s eating!)

      • hotdog

        This is a whole new meaning of being full of shit!!

      • Knowsmorehtanuthink

        Cumon Rob.. Everyone knows you like to eat shit more than the rest of us… sticking your c0ck in another man’s ass… you love that.

  • vortex go woosh

    That dude is pure hostility. Wow. Crazy, yet pretty commical. He should really go see a shrink.

  • Anonymous

    I think this guy really doesnt have a place to roam around. Could someone pick him up? LOL

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  • AnonBuddhist

    Great way to get Anonymous’s Attention that’s for sure. Let him troll it would bring enough fun for the bored.

  • Anonymous

    My god, what is wrong with this man? A greedy, disgusting, vulgar pig he is! Good job at acting “professional” or you know, not using so many explicit words on the job, and acting like an absolute dick suck. (hey, I’m not exactly a “professional” like this guy here, or you know… a lawyer, so I can say what I want).

    Some people need to grow. Poor baby didn’t get all the milk he wanted. Suck your own dick you cunt.

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Yep, the baby milk aspect is indeed a possible explanation.
      I also go for too strict a potty training.

  • Guess

    rofl “I was born to do this shit,” Stone says. “I eat, sleep, breathe, shit this stuff.” this bitch needs to go back to law school

    • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Wouldn’t 6th Grade be more appropriate?.

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  • Asdas

    >“My vendetta against pirates has been building for years and years,” he says, commenting on that history.

    >“I hate hardly anybody,” he says, “but when I think about pirates, I do tend to think about a lot of them as smarmy entitled little brats,” Stone says.

    Well, fuck you for making rich people richer.

    • Anonymous

      To conversely agree with your statement, rich people… let’s face it, there is some aspect of life that we need “rich people.” You are most likely anti-big business, I’m guessing from this comment, but the fact is whether you support big business or not, they run the industry. Industry referring to ANY big company business. Go ahead and start your own business, but you know it won’t be successful as the big companies that got their start in the 20s, when you could get such a business started.

      I really need to stop. ^_^

  • Anon

    How can he be expected to be taken seriously when he acts this unprofessional? What a moron….

    • Anonymous

      I would completely agree. I would call this man a horror of a lawyer with no ethics or morals backing him.

      Nice pun on insulting the porn industry, though, Mr. Stone!

  • Copyandprintgetoffayaweebassa

    Evan Stone. i wouldn’t put your face about like this. a lot of people now know you who you really don’t want to. grow some hair oops. i mean a mustache/beard, oh you have one, well a wig or something,that should do it, or maybe a sex change, and whilst you’re at it, change you’re vocation arse hole

  • Guest

    We will eradicate all the parasites such as Evan Stone.

  • Anonymous

    this young man has a lot of anger. i hope he can reconcile his issues.

  • Anonymous

    this young man has a lot of anger. i hope he can reconcile his issues.

  • Predator

    “My vendetta against pirates has been building for years and years,” he says, commenting on that history.”

    Retaliation against this piece of rotten meet is not going to take that long.

  • Predator

    “My vendetta against pirates has been building for years and years,” he says, commenting on that history.”

    Retaliation against this piece of rotten meet is not going to take that long.

  • ZERO

    “Fuck the adult industry,” he says

    arn’t they already getting fucked?

  • EvilHom3r

    I wonder if there was no money to be made, would he still hate pirates and pursue them?

    • Neil P

      BINGO EvilHom3r. The “harmed” producers/performers/etc are merely a conduit through which this ass-hat is trying to make a killing. If he could figure out a way to personally benefit by suing for infringement whilst keeping 100% of the proceeds to himself he surely would do so. It must annoy the shit out of him when he writes a share check to those whose rights he is “protecting.”

      The USA is overrun with dimwitted law school graduates who have no productive skills. I say the next government stimulus should be a cash for diplomas buy-back. Bring in your degree from a second or third rate law school and promise never to practice law again. We’ll pay you $ 100K.

      Guys like Stone can load up on McDonalds Big Macs for a year and society will benefit by having fewer under-employed menaces destroying our economy.

      It’s what we call a Win / Win.

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  • Xxx

    jew much?

    • Anonymous

      What???

  • Bodoblender

    so they sued 1337 bittorrent users ? really? i mean really? lol they are leet

  • Bodoblender

    so they sued 1337 bittorrent users ? really? i mean really? lol they are leet

  • Beer-Man

    what a polite gentleman…

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  • A1512838

    Looking into my crystal ball, I see a vexing visitation upon Mr Stone from 4chan and Anon.

  • Neotoasty

    Fuck you, Stone.

  • Fuckstone

    What a jerk-off this guy is. He’s the type of guy you like to punch right in his fat face. Hopefully someone will beat us all to it.

  • Jasoncool1

    I know where this fat cunt lives. I am going to find him, and murder him.

    I AM GOING TO MURDER EVAN STONE. WITH A KNIFE.

    • Jasoncool1

      Um… For some reason the bottom sentence about that being a joke dissapeared. Quickly, delete that comment before someone calls the FBI. Oh shit. :S

    • http://toby7728.myopenid.com/ TT7728

      - nevermind -

  • Anonymous

    Sad, sad individual.. “Ronery, I’m so ronery..”

  • Anonymous

    He’s also a sad story just BEGGING for an Anon attack. Then he’ll try to go after them and he’ll realize just how devastating they can be.

    • Knowsmorehtanuthink

      attack what? Why don;t you clowns try an attack in real life and see what happens?

  • Travis

    This guy is a douche bag, waist of skin, whatever adjective you can use for an idiot. I hope he gets dos’ed at home and work until he goes mad.

  • Dudeguyperson

    awww man if this is any example of what where up against then we won this war already

  • Ginger_ape

    “but when I think about pirates, I do tend to think about a lot of them as smarmy entitled little brats,” ..yeah what a pond life scumbag…what’s up? not smart enough to take on the real financial pirates? Maybe if he’d have done something useful with his profession, we may have averted a collapse back in 2008 huh? tosser.

  • Joker

    He has this vendetta because he thought he would get rich with his lame MP3 service!

    Everybody knew that Internet bandwidth and file sharing technologies would expand, and so would the sharing of music!

    C’mon, seriously.

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  • AllanTheMan

    No seriously… like the guy before me said, this guy WAS accused of child molestation and sexual grooming… Only ACCUSED, but still. He’s a pedophile for sure…

  • AllanTheMan

    No seriously… like the guy before me said, this guy WAS accused of child molestation and sexual grooming… Only ACCUSED, but still. He’s a pedophile for sure…

  • AllanTheMan

    No seriously… like the guy before me said, this guy WAS accused of child molestation and sexual grooming… Only ACCUSED, but still. He’s a pedophile for sure…

  • Lucas1989

    Evan Stone actually did have an accusation of “inappropriate sexual contact with a minor”. It’s on the http://www.texas.edu lawsuit list RTR. It’s the same Evan Stone.

  • Lucas1989

    Evan Stone actually did have an accusation of “inappropriate sexual contact with a minor”. It’s on the http://www.texas.edu lawsuit list RTR. It’s the same Evan Stone.

  • FuzzyDuck

    Never seen a total looser so full of shit as Evan Stone.

  • Because You Can’t Torrent Beer

    This guy will go far… the sooner he gets going the better.

  • Lumpy

    Wow, he mad

  • in.cog.nito

    “You eat shit for breakfast?” – Adam Sandler (Happy Gilmore)

  • Whatever

    “I hate hardly anybody” except 100′s of millions of people sharing data.

  • Amilius

    I’d rather be a “smarmy entitled little brat.” than some hate filled dipshit on a personal vendetta going back to the Napster days and who makes a living trying to extort money out of people …

  • AnonRedpanda

    “I know what’s involved, and it’s such horseshit for them to say they can’t get this stuff,” he says, later referring to them as “those fuckers” at Verizon and “those snakey fucks” at Time Warner.”

    I lol’d so hard that I had to read it over twice.

  • Jason Bourne

    MR Anon; there will always be pirates, just like there will always be matter. The reason is simple Mr Smartypants unstoppable human spirit..thats what you forget…and that you can’t kill…you can’t even touch it. All your arguments fail in meaning…that spirit drives people.to do whatever makes them happy or whatever one may call it. You waste your energy and passion on a fruitless argument, it’s a war of strike and counter-strike..there is no forseeable ending. What causes piracy or how it started is quite beside the point, the point is, is it IS. Strike and counter-strike…each side finding a way to counter the others counter…only the pirates have the upper hand, there still pirating despite all the so called efforts, the anti-piracy catch a handful, fine them, jail them, whatever.release them and back they are…corps. waste even more of their profits prosecuting offenders on top of “loss of sales due to piracy”..a double loss, I have no anwsers, perhaps their is none. I can point out the futility of all your carefully laid and planned arguments. You’ll keep on arguing though, just like pirates will keep on pirating, and in that, you both are alike, undeniable human spirit. Undeniable human spirit, it raises empires or brings them asunder..it take or chases after those that take…but the takers keep taking and the chasers keep chasing…good day Mr. Intellectual.

  • Jason Bourne

    MR Anon; there will always be pirates, just like there will always be matter. The reason is simple Mr Smartypants unstoppable human spirit..thats what you forget…and that you can’t kill…you can’t even touch it. All your arguments fail in meaning…that spirit drives people.to do whatever makes them happy or whatever one may call it. You waste your energy and passion on a fruitless argument, it’s a war of strike and counter-strike..there is no forseeable ending. What causes piracy or how it started is quite beside the point, the point is, is it IS. Strike and counter-strike…each side finding a way to counter the others counter…only the pirates have the upper hand, there still pirating despite all the so called efforts, the anti-piracy catch a handful, fine them, jail them, whatever.release them and back they are…corps. waste even more of their profits prosecuting offenders on top of “loss of sales due to piracy”..a double loss, I have no anwsers, perhaps their is none. I can point out the futility of all your carefully laid and planned arguments. You’ll keep on arguing though, just like pirates will keep on pirating, and in that, you both are alike, undeniable human spirit. Undeniable human spirit, it raises empires or brings them asunder..it take or chases after those that take…but the takers keep taking and the chasers keep chasing…good day Mr. Intellectual.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HKMWXNS6V7N4QL2VD4LAY7MAQI John

    a plague on both his houses….

  • Ninja

    LoL. He’s an idiot. Nuff said.

  • fanny mcdougal

    Pirates 1 – 0 Stone Mcfuckface

    he is such a spoiled brat that spits his dummy out when things arnt going your way…probably home schooled as a teenager whilst still sucking his mummys tittys…welcome to the real world nob-rott and good luck with finding a new job now that you have slagged off all your previous employers (i hear mcdonalds are looking for a toilet licker)

  • Jimbob

    He filed more cases in the Eastern District of Texas

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