thank you !!@!@##@@@

It is for people who keep defending the MAFIAA.

Respect for Holland =/

That should bring about some badly needed change for the better, when it comes to the issue of file sharing being legitimate or not.

Dutch “Consumentenbond” FTW!

Well, jeepers mister, I happen to work for a TV network (air, not cable, so it’s “free” in every sense of the word) and I still get my salary, even though noone specifically PAYS for it. Wanna now why? Ratings. Market share. Adver-FlacJacket-Tising! All those little things that form the “Business” part of the “Entertainment Business” WITHOUT imposing severe monetarial penalties on both the consumers and the CREATORS.

As for Raisin Bran here, it’s kinda sad to try and keep the smug facade when all efforts to deter file-sharing have gone nowhere faster than you can say “The Pirate Bay”. I just can’t wait for your eventual BSOD, perhaps accompanied by repeating the phrase “It’s just good business” over and over. Savvy?

Try before you buy….I’m writing about films and music, of course….

My friends aren’t going to the theater and pay 40-50$ unless they know it’s worth it.

There are very few good films out there. Just incredible promotion and misleading press…….

I dare you to explain how it’s wrong to download thingss that you wouldn’t even buy if there was no such thing as filesharing. I double dog dare you.

Or how about explaining why it’s wrong to download things on a try-before-you-buy basis? Is it still wrong if you later buy what you downloaded? Is getting ripped off by buying something horrible less wrong than saving yourself from being ripped off by downloading it and finding out its horrible before hand? Is it still wrong if you’re downloading something that wasn’t even released in your country? Is it still wrong when media prices are extortionate, when your money simply goes to the labels and studios instead of the artists, when you have to choose between buying a DVD and eating or paying bills yet the cokeheads your money goes to could each afford a fleet of Ferraris?

Come on. Let’s hear it.

Most of Hollywood needs to be arrested for their work, not paid from tax dollars. Close-up shots of penises isn’t “work” that most people consider worth protecting.

Fair use has been around for as long as copyright law. It’s simple, once the product is bought, I can do what I like with it, as long as I do not try to profit from it, or claim the work as my own. Copyright protects the profits of the rights holder, which is not usually the creator due to evil industry contacts. As middle men, these copywhores should realize that abusing your content creators, and criminalizing your consumers is, if nothing else, a bad business model.

I agree /w yer post. Just as many corrupt people in any country. Trying to force intellectual poverty restrictions on the masses.

I’d rather someone grab the free version and not break their computer /w drm.

TV shows being viewed online being criminalized? The same song I listened through ads for on the radio if I put on my ipod is illegal?

Who’s making the laws here? Sure ain’t the people being represented.

Clickity briefcases are making OUR laws. None of this shit would BE law if proposed laws had a vote from “everyman” or your average citizen.

So I push on for Open Source Government, usually last post here but some will read it.

http://www.opensourceg.com in tribute to Linux and their great job in computer land. Can anyone help me port this over to our govt structure so we actually GET a vote?

Best 15 bucks in tribute I ever spent, I figure if it’s good enough for Firefox and Ubuntu and American military SURELY it’s good enough for our leaders, not as code but GPL style rules being applied in the House of Commons/Senate.

We can email, twitter, facebook, read slashdot and torrent freak yet NO ONE has organized citizen voting alongside their “leaders”???

Like the leaders should still get the call but I’d LOVE to see stats of who votes IN these laws vs what people actually want.

…b/c we all want to be criminalized for every day use of Internet. b/c we want to watch the Simpsons after work instead of during work /w a vcr. Just download the torrent and be done /w it!

Anyways the laws, they need a fixin, and not just individual laws but the system itself. Time for an upgrade!

I can only DREAM of the upgrades everyone’d help make to BETTER our lives via an online website. I’ll link to it AS SOON AS IT’S AVAILABLE! :D (or help me build it, I don’t know shit. lmao)

Folks, the moment a copyright appears, it’s the moment EVERYONE else loses some rights to copy a specific combination of 1s and 0s.

once they have that control, download/filesharing will be the dogs danglies, the best thing since sliced bread, the one thing that every internet user/home must have! without it, you must either be really poor or a total social misfit and should be ashamed!

Fair compensation? You mean when the labels get the money instead of artists?

Yeah, fair compensation doesn’t exist, even without filesharing. You might want to reconnect with reality before reading your script to us

Of course its okay & easy to download MOVIES & MUSIC for FREE. arseplug. We are doing nothing wrong… You are…

I do it too yes, because i can’t afford paying for new cd’s or move tickets with my student budget, and probably because most of the stuff that comes out today is crap. BUT that does not make it okay or right to download.

The least you assholes could do is admit that your doing something wrong. Anyone who thinks its right is a tool.

I love this sentence! If I download it illegaly, it probably means I will not buy it, right? So who cares?

I will buy what I want to and support who I want to.

Sorry for the rant TF, but that kind of shite pisses me off!

Ordinarily if you wish to take your company global, you research the laws of each country and decide if it is a wise move to begin distribution there. What you do not do is decide your business model doesn’t stand up to their laws, so take people to court because you were too stupid to respect their oppinions in the first place.

That’s just typical of Americans though. You can’t seem to see that oppinions differ and you just may be wrong about something.

That being said, this spot is one massive heap of fail. To anyone that isn’t already familiar with the intellectual property issue, which is most of the population, this spot has no meaning whatsoever. All it is, is a few people proclaiming they are not criminals, for whatever reason. It doesn’t inform and it doesn’t interest people to inform themselves. It doesn’t even tell them what to inform themselves about or what the actual issue is.

Of course most of these things will be explained on the website, but there’s little point to that if people don’t go there.

I pirate due to outrageous prices and unavailability. Who wants to wait over a year for a anime episode to come out subbed on a dvd. I do not, I would be ok with a week but this problem leads to the other of price gouging. For example a full season of a show with 24 episodes can cost anywhere between $100-$400. There is no way I would pay those type of prices for 24 episodes.

So I agree with the Dutch consumer rights organization message of “Sometimes I buy, sometimes I download, but I am not a criminal..,” I just hope they succeed and the rest of the world realizes this as well especially the usa.

O and a little add on to this that I thought about is that I do buy some music from zune but the problem is that 60%+ of the songs I want they do not have.

Furthermore…

“Before criminalizing consumers, the industry has to make sure that they offer a decent amount of content. Once that improves, I think consumers are willing to pay…

The industry won’t do that though! They would rather steal from their own artists, and criminalize their customers! What absolute morons!

Presently, downloading movies and music for personal use in The Netherlands is seen as “fair use” and not punishable by law.

fail read the article idiot lolol

I have an unlimited card for a local cinema. It means I can see any film I want, for free. I’ve watched probably about 20 films or so in the last couple of months. Want to know how many of them I would consider watchable or enjoyable? 2. 2 fucking films I was happy to ‘pay’ for and sit through (Zombieland and Paranormal activity FYI).

Movie companies have not, as the article said, given a decent alternative to illegal downloading. I’m fucking fed up of handing over MY hard money to some exec, on a multimillion pay packet, who just spews out shit film after shit film.

Slam that you ignorant a$$!

Imagine for a moment the article text up top there is copyrighted information that Ernesto is distributing without authorisation from the legal rights holder. I don’t know this, but in my clicking this link I’ve just downloaded unathorised content to my computer. Am I a criminal now?

What if someone clicks a link to download http://whatever.org/legal.file yet it turns out the content wasn’t in fact legal as one might expect AFTER it’s been downloaded and checked? Am I a criminal now?

Am I stupid or something, because to me it defies common sense logic to attempt to make the reception of information an offence, because there’s no way of knowing what someting is until you actually have it.

You could sting anyone with it simply by playing with descriptions:

Two magnet links:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d605e8e4781b9c890c53b16c2a303ea3e3d4f49&dn=Star%20Wreck%20-%20Legacy

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:oqe42adny5kptwbirh3c6kv3l7etixv7&dn=Inglourious+Basterds+%282009

Which one’s legal?

I must just be thick. I don’t understand but apparently everyone else does because no one seems to mention it. What am I missing?

If it’s for sale but you take it for free knowing that you’ve willfully deprived the rights from their fair compensation, you’ll get what you deserve.

Karma is a bitch.

So is Euro-American law enforcement. So will be the ACTA.

Consumers have every right to what is offered free. Creators have every right to slam you hard when you take it illegally. And so they will.

Good.