Comments on: Convicted BitTorrent Admin Fights for his Right to Use Linux http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:44:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: Anonymous Guy http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-390775 Anonymous Guy Wed, 21 May 2008 21:29:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-390775 I am a Kubuntu user myself so I completely understand his position. He has my full support for the government to build linux-based monitoring software. I hope he wins in court, but if that is not the case, perhaps he can use VirtualBox and install Linux on that. If they can't monitor virtual machines, then isn't it still perfectly legal? I am a Kubuntu user myself so I completely understand his position. He has my full support for the government to build linux-based monitoring software. I hope he wins in court, but if that is not the case, perhaps he can use VirtualBox and install Linux on that.

If they can’t monitor virtual machines, then isn’t it still perfectly legal?

]]> By: Crow http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-370652 Crow Sat, 03 May 2008 12:59:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-370652 [quote comment="161438"]I bet he was someone's bitch in prison... "So what are you in for?" "I uploaded a bootleg of Episode 3...You?" "Murdered an entire family then ate them...You might wanna just take your pants off now..."[/quote] Hahaha.. Funny one :p [quote comment="161438"]I bet he was someone’s bitch in prison…

“So what are you in for?”

“I uploaded a bootleg of Episode 3…You?”

“Murdered an entire family then ate them…You might wanna just take your pants off now…”[/quote]

Hahaha..
Funny one :p

]]> By: jnak http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-297460 jnak Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:41:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-297460 probation is shit, in the state i live, it costs $150 a month. that shit isn't funny. you're constantly monitored. the fucking system wants to control your schedule, and if you break any rule, out you go. that's what it's like. for all of you fucking law abiding citizens out there, you don't know the fucking law. the only reason you haven't been criminally prosecuted is because you aren't constantly monitored. when the government monitors every second of your life, then life will really go to shit. probation is shit, in the state i live, it costs $150 a month. that shit isn’t funny. you’re constantly monitored. the fucking system wants to control your schedule, and if you break any rule, out you go. that’s what it’s like. for all of you fucking law abiding citizens out there, you don’t know the fucking law. the only reason you haven’t been criminally prosecuted is because you aren’t constantly monitored. when the government monitors every second of your life, then life will really go to shit.

]]> By: jerome http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-249004 jerome Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:28:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-249004 sk0t should do the community a service and use windows. That way the snoops won't have to bother developing Linux monitoring software, leaving the rest of the Linux using community free of being snooped upon! sk0t should do the community a service and use windows.

That way the snoops won’t have to bother developing Linux monitoring software, leaving the rest of the Linux using community free of being snooped upon!

]]> By: Grendel http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-163133 Grendel Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:15:38 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-163133 If I could afford it, I would sneak an Ultra Mobile PC to you. :D If I could afford it, I would sneak an Ultra Mobile PC to you.

:D

]]> By: Sean http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162794 Sean Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:28:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162794 "No precedent of which I am aware says that a criminal has to pay his own money to fulfill the terms of his sentence in a criminal trial." When under house arrest, you have to pay a fee for the ankle bracelet. “No precedent of which I am aware says that a criminal has to pay his own money to fulfill the terms of his sentence in a criminal trial.”

When under house arrest, you have to pay a fee for the ankle bracelet.

]]> By: Nephilim http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162791 Nephilim Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:20:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162791 It would be interesting to see how this plays out. Certainly the court could decide that he has to use Windows. If they can put a man in a cell and never let him out, an OS seems to be a minor sentence. The real trick here is whether or not they can force him to PURCHASE a copy. No precedent of which I am aware says that a criminal has to pay his own money to fulfill the terms of his sentence in a criminal trial. (That would be civil law unless I'm much mistaken.) Of course the ruling could simply state that the defendant must run Windows or nothing, and thus force the issue. Oh, and I believe Wine is run in something akin to a VM, so you could run Wine and the spyware but it would only monitor things accessible to the Wine program. What COULD work is to run a Windows box as a proxy to route net traffic. That all depends on whether or not the spyware is designed to monitor processes or just net traffic... It would be interesting to see how this plays out. Certainly the court could decide that he has to use Windows. If they can put a man in a cell and never let him out, an OS seems to be a minor sentence. The real trick here is whether or not they can force him to PURCHASE a copy. No precedent of which I am aware says that a criminal has to pay his own money to fulfill the terms of his sentence in a criminal trial. (That would be civil law unless I’m much mistaken.)
Of course the ruling could simply state that the defendant must run Windows or nothing, and thus force the issue.
Oh, and I believe Wine is run in something akin to a VM, so you could run Wine and the spyware but it would only monitor things accessible to the Wine program.
What COULD work is to run a Windows box as a proxy to route net traffic. That all depends on whether or not the spyware is designed to monitor processes or just net traffic…

]]> By: Linux News Log » Blog Archive » Linux News Log Podcast #136 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162782 Linux News Log » Blog Archive » Linux News Log Podcast #136 Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:01:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162782 [...] Convicted BitTorrent Admin Fights for his Right to Use Linux [...] [...] Convicted BitTorrent Admin Fights for his Right to Use Linux [...]

]]> By: An0nym0us http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162373 An0nym0us Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:20:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162373 seeing as i am being blocked from sk0t's page... keep in mind sk0t, your real friends are still here even if we are in silence due to all the shit the US is putting you throu, but I know that we will rise again. keep your head up as better days are soon to come for you. CTIDU seeing as i am being blocked from sk0t’s page… keep in mind sk0t, your real friends are still here even if we are in silence due to all the shit the US is putting you throu, but I know that we will rise again. keep your head up as better days are soon to come for you.

CTIDU

]]> By: The Great Geek Manual News » Convicted BitTorrent Admin Fights for his Right to Use Linux http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162313 The Great Geek Manual News » Convicted BitTorrent Admin Fights for his Right to Use Linux Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:58:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162313 [...] Read the Entire Story…Source: Torrent Freak [...] [...] Read the Entire Story…Source: Torrent Freak [...]

]]> By: brian http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162164 brian Mon, 10 Sep 2007 06:04:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162164 he charged for torrents IIRC. a friend of mine told me he would pay a monthly fee to use his site. he loses all my respect for that and gets no sympathy from me. he charged for torrents IIRC. a friend of mine told me he would pay a monthly fee to use his site. he loses all my respect for that and gets no sympathy from me.

]]> By: Snapphane http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162146 Snapphane Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:10:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-162146 Well, the point here is still the same. Instead of educating the police force, they try to make it a criminal act to use things they aren't trained for. This is simple put, very stupid. I could be fine with the whole idea if it was put something like this. You are a hacker (not true here, I know) and you are not allowed to use hacking tools again. Linux is by us considered a hacking tool, but you may use Windows. OK, maybe not the most cleaver thing in the world, but it still make some sort of sense. In this case, I would have agreed that using Windows is better then not using a computer at all. But as the situation stands now, I don't. Learn how to monitor a Linux system, as well as a Mac/Apple system. Make the proper software. DON'T force people to fit into your narrow frames of mind! Well, the point here is still the same. Instead of educating the police force, they try to make it a criminal act to use things they aren’t trained for. This is simple put, very stupid.

I could be fine with the whole idea if it was put something like this. You are a hacker (not true here, I know) and you are not allowed to use hacking tools again. Linux is by us considered a hacking tool, but you may use Windows.

OK, maybe not the most cleaver thing in the world, but it still make some sort of sense. In this case, I would have agreed that using Windows is better then not using a computer at all. But as the situation stands now, I don’t.

Learn how to monitor a Linux system, as well as a Mac/Apple system. Make the proper software. DON’T force people to fit into your narrow frames of mind!

]]> By: mike http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161935 mike Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:15:17 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161935 He is NOT free in his own house, he is under house arrest, which is NOT probation. Let him choose -- read a few good books and comply, or go back to jail. Sounds like a hand slap sentence anyway. And what kind of silly lawyer would play around with such petty crap? He's got the $300 bucks per hour for a lawyer and can't afford windows? GEt a used Dell latitude Of CL,and load the backup. He is NOT free in his own house, he is under house arrest, which is NOT probation. Let him choose — read a few good books and comply, or go back to jail. Sounds like a hand slap sentence anyway. And what kind of silly lawyer would play around with such petty crap? He’s got the $300 bucks per hour for a lawyer and can’t afford windows? GEt a used Dell latitude Of CL,and load the backup.

]]> By: Sean http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161923 Sean Sun, 09 Sep 2007 17:26:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161923 [quote comment="161763"]Well, saying he is a criminal and thus he has no right doesn't quite work. Sure, when in prison he kind of has no rights, but now he is free and living in his own house. To then say, you should use this or that, just doesn't work. He should be free to use a Mac or a PC running Linux. If the police lack the software to monitor him, that's their problem. Read something similar about the iPhone. With it being different and on top of that, Mac based, all the normal forensic software just wont work. If an iPhone is used in a crime, there is today no software that can extract call logs and such. And even if there was, they would probably have to use Mac, which no police know how. According to most people here, to solution is not to train the police and develop new software, but to simple make it a crime to use the iPhone. Or to put in another light. Say the criminal has to use an ankle bracelet when being confined to his or hers home. Now, the person is a double amputee. Should it now be a crime not to have legs? Sure, it sounds stupid, but the principle is the same. If the old methods don't work, create something new to fix it.[/quote] I never said he didn't have any rights. I just said that as a criminal some rights are taken away, you give them up when you commit an offense, get caught, and then plead guilty. He doesn't like Windows, he can feel free to go to jail for all I care. [quote comment="161763"]Well, saying he is a criminal and thus he has no right doesn’t quite work. Sure, when in prison he kind of has no rights, but now he is free and living in his own house.

To then say, you should use this or that, just doesn’t work. He should be free to use a Mac or a PC running Linux. If the police lack the software to monitor him, that’s their problem.

Read something similar about the iPhone. With it being different and on top of that, Mac based, all the normal forensic software just wont work. If an iPhone is used in a crime, there is today no software that can extract call logs and such. And even if there was, they would probably have to use Mac, which no police know how.

According to most people here, to solution is not to train the police and develop new software, but to simple make it a crime to use the iPhone.

Or to put in another light. Say the criminal has to use an ankle bracelet when being confined to his or hers home. Now, the person is a double amputee. Should it now be a crime not to have legs? Sure, it sounds stupid, but the principle is the same. If the old methods don’t work, create something new to fix it.[/quote]

I never said he didn’t have any rights. I just said that as a criminal some rights are taken away, you give them up when you commit an offense, get caught, and then plead guilty. He doesn’t like Windows, he can feel free to go to jail for all I care.

]]> By: bdragon http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161908 bdragon Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:38:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161908 Why doesn't he just install Ubuntu in a VM under Windows? If he's got a decent enough machine and not planning on doing any Compiz Fusion then it should work alright. Why doesn’t he just install Ubuntu in a VM under Windows? If he’s got a decent enough machine and not planning on doing any Compiz Fusion then it should work alright.

]]> By: R10t http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161893 R10t Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:37:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161893 im not in the know about the software and how it works, but im guessing it only runs when windows is loaded... solution? dual boot, just dont let them know :P as long as windows OS isnt loaded, his PC will be seen as "off" because the software wont be monitoring as it isnt loaded im not in the know about the software and how it works, but im guessing it only runs when windows is loaded… solution?

dual boot, just dont let them know :P as long as windows OS isnt loaded, his PC will be seen as “off” because the software wont be monitoring as it isnt loaded

]]> By: ReallyEvilCanine http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161833 ReallyEvilCanine Sun, 09 Sep 2007 13:09:03 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161833 He's on probation. In order to meet the terms of that probation (remain at home and provide proof that he's there), he must use hardware and software provided. He isn't being forced to use Windows; he can go back to jail if he prefers. Or he can run Windows in a VM inside the Linux box. Or he can buy a $200 POS which runs Windows and can support the monitoring program. He’s on probation. In order to meet the terms of that probation (remain at home and provide proof that he’s there), he must use hardware and software provided.

He isn’t being forced to use Windows; he can go back to jail if he prefers. Or he can run Windows in a VM inside the Linux box. Or he can buy a $200 POS which runs Windows and can support the monitoring program.

]]> By: roofy http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161822 roofy Sun, 09 Sep 2007 12:45:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161822 whay dont you code this! you have no idea what your talking about because its very hard to code software for linux from windows. its like rewritting the heart of the software. even after that do you think the government will trust a program they didnt write? whay dont you code this! you have no idea what your talking about because its very hard to code software for linux from windows. its like rewritting the heart of the software.

even after that do you think the government will trust a program they didnt write?

]]> By: PornZits http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161806 PornZits Sun, 09 Sep 2007 11:55:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161806 I think the Linux community should rally and help code this thing so the cops will get out of Scott's ass. I think the Linux community should rally and help code this thing so the cops will get out of Scott’s ass.

]]> By: Nitrate Row http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161802 Nitrate Row Sun, 09 Sep 2007 11:41:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/convicted-bittorrent-admin-fights-for-right-to-use-linux-070908/#comment-161802 [quote]Well, saying he is a criminal and thus he has no right doesn't quite work. Sure, when in prison he kind of has no rights, but now he is free and living in his own house. To then say, you should use this or that, just doesn't work. He should be free to use a Mac or a PC running Linux. If the police lack the software to monitor him, that's their problem.[/quote] He's on probation. [quote]Well, saying he is a criminal and thus he has no right doesn’t quite work. Sure, when in prison he kind of has no rights, but now he is free and living in his own house.

To then say, you should use this or that, just doesn’t work. He should be free to use a Mac or a PC running Linux. If the police lack the software to monitor him, that’s their problem.[/quote]

He’s on probation.

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