Comments on: Copyright Group Prosecuted For Failing to Pay Artists

By: They are the Pirates

They are the Pirates — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 06:49:09 +0000

sabam = Pirates

Most of us know this here & have known for a long time…

riaa/mpaa = Pirates

By: Anon

Anon — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 05:16:38 +0000

Oh sh…..60 posts and still no neofag.

By: Grok

Grok — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:15:08 +0000

This is just silly. They’re not satisfied with the amount that they steal normally, I see. They just have to steal from the artists. Hypocritical to the extreme.

By: ThePenguinator

ThePenguinator — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 12:41:00 +0000

Nice to see this :)

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Fri, 24 Jul 2009 15:47:31 +0000

[...] Copyright Group Prosecuted For Failing to Pay Artists The attorney general in Brussels has concluded a three year investigation into the money trails at the the local music royalty collecting agency SABAM. The attorney general concluded that the copyright group is not paying the artists the money owed to them, and will prosecute five managers for forgery of documents and abuse of trust. [...]

By: mattias

mattias — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:07:04 +0000

Q. why’s the economy become so bad in recent times?

A. f***ing copyright groups and middle-men hogging all the money for their own pockets.

By: UltraLeetJ

UltraLeetJ — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:33:53 +0000

about time! this article is the definite proof of EVERY POINT I’ve been making. Oh, and by the way still wondering where is the so called “intelligent discourse” (AKA trolls). Whats up neoUnstylized, where’s the justification for these atrocities your idols (record labels) have been making? If they are so much of an interest it would be a kind action for them to be defended NOW

By: Yar

Yar — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 06:16:51 +0000

Stating that these kind of companies as copyright-MAFIA isn’t that far-fetched now is it? :D

By: neko

neko — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:02:52 +0000

about time some cards were called

By: Bruselská organizace na ochranu autorských práv ?elí žalob? za neplacení um?lc?m

Bruselská organizace na ochranu autorských práv ?elí žalob? za neplacení um?lc?m — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:13:43 +0000

[...] Zdroj: TorrentFreak [...]

By: anonymous in belgium

anonymous in belgium — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:13:53 +0000

this fine organization crashed our BBQ and demanded the party hosts(me) to pay up. because we didn’t pay in advance.

By: CDR levy of canada

CDR levy of canada — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:09:39 +0000

sabam = sadam?

By: woof

woof — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:14:18 +0000

@ 46 Jul 23, 2009 at 15:34 by Anonymous

ah! wondered when fagnonymous would appear after cherry picking his comments to reply to….or splicing and dicing them …as usual you bypass the meat of the article to spew your nonsense…

ever heard of piece work you twat, and believe it or not there IS a world that exisists outside the USA.

By: SABAM, la SGAE belga, perseguida por no pagar a los artistas [eng] (meneame) | BlogUniverso

Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:14:10 +0000

[...] Original source : http://torrentfreak.com/copyright-group-prosecuted… [...]

By: Jim Bob

Jim Bob — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:05:25 +0000

Keep in mind, this is how all these organizations work. This is how they make money. IF they gave it al to the artists, they would make nothing.

By: Moova! News on the Move » Un grupo defensor de los derechos de autor robaba a los artistas que representaba

Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:46:10 +0000

[...] de tres años de investigación se determinó que SABAM estaba guardándose una buena parte del dinero que debería ir destinado a los artistas que defendía para financiarse. Y como si esto ya fuera [...]

By: Sendaii

Sendaii — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:46:26 +0000

@45: Not likely. I haven’t seen a single anti-piracy group that can do their job competently, the latest example being BREIN scum.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:34:37 +0000

“royalties” should apply to kingdoms only, why is it even used in relation to petty entertainers and their slave drivers?

you can say this with a straight face the moment 9-5 jobs give up their sick leave, paid vacation, health plans, dental plans, 401k, retirement funds AND enact a largely performance-based pay system rather than a guaranteed salary (that they still receive even in the event of their product or service turning out to be a complete failure)

until then…LOL

By: BioShockT81

BioShockT81 — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:32:30 +0000

It’s groups like these that give copyright advocates a bad name. Hopefully they will be replaced by a more proper antipiracy agency.

By: Sendaii

Sendaii — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:09:05 +0000

Now who’s the thieves?

This is excellent. Groups like this think that they are above the law, and it’s nice to see them brought crashing down. Now, if only we can get the RIAA, IFPI and BPI like this…

By: Belgien: Verwertungsgesellschaft hat Tantiemen unterschlagen « 11k2

Belgien: Verwertungsgesellschaft hat Tantiemen unterschlagen « 11k2 — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:05:00 +0000

[...] ( via torrentfreak) [...]

By: Kanine

Kanine — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:54:43 +0000

36–>”Just proves that downloading is not stealing from the artist —– there wouldn’t have been any sale, and even if there had been, the artist wouldn’t have recieved the money.”
———–

SHARING music files with others never was (nor will be) piracy.

Piracy is living as PARASITES from the hard work of others, which is EXACTLY that pro-copyright groups as RIAA, SGAE, etc. do.

By: Kanine

Kanine — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:49:37 +0000

BTW, excellent article

By: Kanine

Kanine — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:45:10 +0000

33–>”Of course this Copyright Groups in all countries wants more money every year and are collecting more money every year. Copyright Groups workers salary costs are very high. Example leaders and co-leaders in Copyright Groups salary in year is average 1-5 million euros. When normal Copyright Groups workers earns average 400 000-800 000 euros year. Again this is same in all countries. In One Copyright Group can work from many hundreds to many thousands workers.

Example one Copyright Group have 10 000 workers and 1 leader and 4 co-leaders . Leader earns 5 million year when co-leaders 3 million year and workers average earns 600 000 euros so salary costs are about 80 million euros year plus all bonus thins add another 10-20 millions. Totally about 100 million euros salary costs.”
———-

That a big waste of our money for maintaining a bunch of PARASITES that don’t provide any benefit to society.

Why are some governments supporting this organized crime against the society that in addition undermines the rights and civil liberties of the people?

By: M-RES

M-RES — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:41:27 +0000

Why am I not surprised by this?

What would be sweet irony is if it turned out they owed Metallica a sh*t load of cash!

By: Un grupo defensor de los derechos de autor robaba a los artistas que representaba | ALT1040 (Destacadas)

Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:30:44 +0000

By: rofl

rofl — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:21:00 +0000

ahah nice.. and you idiots wonder why we download.

WIN for us bitches..

This is official PROOF that artists dont get compensated. OWNED. F*CKING OWNED Neofag and bongwaters and whatever rest of the trolls still on here.

We win we win we win we win hahaha

oh.. are you gonna cry?

sux to loose doesnt it.. well its great to win.

By: El que guarda siempre tiene » SABAM, la SGAE belga, perseguida por no pagar a los artistas

Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:00:36 +0000

[...] Así la SABAM (equivalente belga de la SGAE) esta acusada de no pagar a los artistas lo que debiera: [...]

By: albinoblackrabbit

albinoblackrabbit — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:28:15 +0000

so according to them singing carols is
wrong but stealing money off the artists isn’t?

By: Whu?

Whu? — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:24:52 +0000

This was the best part:
After a play a SABAM-inspector came and demanded that they had to pay because the author of the piece was with SABAM. But the person who they claimed this to was the president of the group and also the author of the play, and he was not affiliated with SABAM…

By: Cordelia

Cordelia — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:46:35 +0000

Just proves that downloading is not stealing from the artist —– there wouldn’t have been any sale, and even if there had been, the artist wouldn’t have recieved the money.

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:20:05 +0000

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:15:18 +0000

Also Italy and Spain.

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:14:44 +0000

Of course this Copyright Groups in all countries wants more money every year and are collecting more money every year. Copyright Groups workers salary costs are very high. Example leaders and co-leaders in Copyright Groups salary in year is average 1-5 million euros. When normal Copyright Groups workers earns average 400 000-800 000 euros year. Again this is same in all countries. In One Copyright Group can work from many hundreds to many thousands workers.

All those artist money goes Copyright Groups salary and bonus costs. All examples are from USA, Canada, France, UK, Germany Copyright Groups average salaries.

By: Tim

Tim — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:00:38 +0000

Copyright Groups in all countries collect money AND less than 10% goes to artists. While Copyright Groups use over 90% of the collected money. It is same in every country.

By: meneame.net

meneame.net — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:59:23 +0000

SABAM, la SGAE belga, perseguida por no pagar a los artistas [eng]…

[Traducción] "El fiscal general en Bruselas ha finalizado una investigación de tres años sobre los rastros del dinero de SABAM, la agencia local de recolección de royalties de música. El fiscal general ha concluido que el ‘grupo de copyright…

By: woof

woof — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:51:55 +0000

tough, i’m delighted they rip off the artists, if their to lazy or stupid to organize them selves and make sure they get what they feel they’re due, then they get whats given – and they should have no problem with file sharers either if thats the case

By: Zwartbaard.nl ~ Belgische MAFIAA handelt niet fair

Zwartbaard.nl ~ Belgische MAFIAA handelt niet fair — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:45:34 +0000

[...] int. Die doerakjes geven het geld echter niet terug aan de artiesten, maar gebruiken een deel om hun pleziertjes te financiëren. Dit is super krom, en eigenlijk ook deels crimineel. Als mensen royalities afstaan, mag wel worden [...]

By: hot sex gary

hot sex gary — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:35:38 +0000

artists make fuck all as it is, this is still just a drop in the ocean, although hopefully a step towards the death of recording companies

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 03:23:03 +0000

Death to these assholes.

By: CCC

CCC — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:42:44 +0000

next target RIAA

By: Family Holloway » Blog Archive » Copyright Group Prosecuted For Failing to Pay Artists

Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:27:59 +0000

[...] TorrentFreak reports that “The attorney general in Brussels has concluded a three year investigation into the money trails at the the local music royalty collecting agency SABAM. The attorney general concluded that the copyright group is not paying the artists the money owed to them, and will prosecute five managers for forgery of documents and abuse of trust.”. [...]

By: Copyright Group Prosecuted For Failing to Pay Artists | TorrentFreak « Copyright

Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:08:08 +0000

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By: deadmanamerican

deadmanamerican — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:49:03 +0000

read 3rd paragraph again and replace sabam with u.s. government and everyone will get a clearer picture.

By: Sol1d

Sol1d — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:52:43 +0000

Oh GOOD! Now they can know what it feels like to be raped in the ass! :)

By: sleeping pill

sleeping pill — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:52:15 +0000

@25

Although “spelt” is actually spelled correctly it’s definition is somewhat different than what you had intended.

spelt

O.E. spelt, perhaps an early borrowing from L.L. spelta “spelt” (c.400, noted as a foreign word), which is perhaps ult. from PIE base *spel- “to split, to break off” (probably in ref. to the splitting of its husks in threshing), which is related to the root of flint. The word had little currency in Eng., and its history is discontinuous. Widespread in Romanic languages (cf. It. spelta, Sp. espelta, O.Fr. spelte, Mod.Fr. épeautre). The word also is widespread in Gmc. (cf. O.H.G. spelta, Ger. Spelt), and a Gmc. language is perhaps the source of the L.L. word.

By: annoyance

annoyance — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:12:21 +0000

I didn’t know pirate was spelt SABAM

By: Turbis

Turbis — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:54:59 +0000

It’s just like putting up a donation fond for starving kids and then instead of giving the money to the kids you just use them for yourself.
It’s kinda ironic how we allways say the music industry is greedy and now we’ve even confirmed that the lobbyists are greedy aswell, this is getting funnier and funnier for every TF blogpost.

By: Kanine

Kanine — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:38:55 +0000

Ooppss… I forgot to appoint to BREIN in my previous post.

By: Kanine

Kanine — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:35:21 +0000

I always have thought and reaffirmed that all these pro-copyright organizations as the RIAA, SABAM, SGAE, GEMA, etc. are simply vulgar delinquents, pirates, parasites and thieves… nothing more, nothing less, and that definitely something very bad was happening with the judicial systems of some countries for allowing to these vulgar delinquents to do all that they want.

Fortunately in Brussels exists some justice yet. I hope that all these vulgar pro-copyright delinquents get jail for the rest of their lives.