Comments on: CopySense Sleek Predator, or White Elephant? http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Fri, 25 May 2012 10:47:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? | test http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-517261 Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? | test Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:38:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-517261 [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...] [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...]

]]> By: ISP Level Anti-Piracy System Neutralized By BitTorrent | Torrent Searcher News http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-508808 ISP Level Anti-Piracy System Neutralized By BitTorrent | Torrent Searcher News Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:36:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-508808 [...] being accessed or sent by users on the particular ISP where Copyrouter is installed (similar to CopySense). If the system finds a match, transmission of any infringing files would be stopped and the user [...] [...] being accessed or sent by users on the particular ISP where Copyrouter is installed (similar to CopySense). If the system finds a match, transmission of any infringing files would be stopped and the user [...]

]]> By: ISP Level Anti-Piracy System Neutralized By BitTorrent | TorrentFreak http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-508632 ISP Level Anti-Piracy System Neutralized By BitTorrent | TorrentFreak Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:42:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-508632 [...] being accessed or sent by users on the particular ISP where Copyrouter is installed (similar to CopySense). If the system finds a match, transmission of any infringing files would be stopped and the user [...] [...] being accessed or sent by users on the particular ISP where Copyrouter is installed (similar to CopySense). If the system finds a match, transmission of any infringing files would be stopped and the user [...]

]]> By: Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? - Zwartbaard http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-508143 Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? - Zwartbaard Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:09:46 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-508143 [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...] [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...]

]]> By: Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? | Torrent Searcher News http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-507698 Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? | Torrent Searcher News Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:29:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-507698 [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...] [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...]

]]> By: Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? | InstantIdiocy http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-507516 Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? | InstantIdiocy Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:31:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-507516 [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...] [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...]

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]]> By: Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? | TorrentFreak http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-507164 Tackling College Piracy: At What Cost? | TorrentFreak Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:10:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-507164 [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...] [...] study reports that 25% of public universities use a form of technological filtering, such as Copysense, to try and reduce infringements. As noted before, such measures are fairly inaccurate and rarely [...]

]]> By: Christopher http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-500427 Christopher Thu, 02 Oct 2008 09:03:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-500427 This is just plain and simple STUPID. The fact is that the only thing you have to do to get around Audible Magic is password the files in question in archives like .rar, .zip, etc. Audible Magic is LYING to their customers, and I think that is illegal by both federal and state law, now isn't it? This is just plain and simple STUPID. The fact is that the only thing you have to do to get around Audible Magic is password the files in question in archives like .rar, .zip, etc.

Audible Magic is LYING to their customers, and I think that is illegal by both federal and state law, now isn’t it?

]]> By: RIAA http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-499335 RIAA Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:18:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-499335 I have some protection I'd like to sell you. Wouldn't want that new library to burn down now, would you. All those wooden shelves... paper books... bet you have some classics. It's be a shame it anything were to happen to em. I have some protection I’d like to sell you. Wouldn’t want that new library to burn down now, would you. All those wooden shelves… paper books… bet you have some classics. It’s be a shame it anything were to happen to em.

]]> By: Andrewsarchus http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-499149 Andrewsarchus Sun, 28 Sep 2008 18:52:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-499149 Well... Most colleges I've been too just block the bittorent ports. So this I suppose takes care of the frostwire downloads that were getting through. My solution is to remote logon to my home computer secure.logmein.com remote access the home pc. Start the download; set an auto shutdown run-->"shutdown -s -f -t 7200". ("shutdown -a" to stop it) And close my laptop down. Return home with a USB drive. Well…

Most colleges I’ve been too just block the bittorent ports. So this I suppose takes care of the frostwire downloads that were getting through.
My solution is to remote logon to my home computer
secure.logmein.com remote access the home pc. Start the download; set an auto shutdown run–>”shutdown -s -f -t 7200″. (“shutdown -a” to stop it) And close my laptop down. Return home with a USB drive.

]]> By: Concerned http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498963 Concerned Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:20:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498963 Is anyone else here afraid there is a hidden agenda here? WHO determines what is legitimate and what is illegitimate? Perhaps streaming content from competitor's sites are depend illegitimate. Perhaps, cretin information sites are illegitimate, wikileaks etc... This is not about limiting your roommates copyright enforced barley 18 Henti access... this is about FREEDOM OF INFORMATION. If they can turn off one aspect of information, they can certain start adding more filters to "protect" the university. Tiananmen Square? that never happened! Happy face, its Beijing 2008! NO ONE died here in 1989 :) Trail of tears? Whats that? Andrew Jackson? Wasn't he our president or something? What? 1933 US Steel bulkheads in the Bismark? What now? Is anyone else here afraid there is a hidden agenda here?

WHO determines what is legitimate and what is illegitimate?

Perhaps streaming content from competitor’s sites are depend illegitimate. Perhaps, cretin information sites are illegitimate, wikileaks etc…

This is not about limiting your roommates copyright enforced barley 18 Henti access…

this is about FREEDOM OF INFORMATION. If they can turn off one aspect of information, they can certain start adding more filters to “protect” the university.

Tiananmen Square? that never happened! Happy face, its Beijing 2008! NO ONE died here in 1989 :)

Trail of tears? Whats that? Andrew Jackson? Wasn’t he our president or something? What?

1933 US Steel bulkheads in the Bismark? What now?

]]> By: pink panther http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498820 pink panther Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:13:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498820 This will fail. But it will CYA. Like the caliper I bought recently that said to wear safety goggles (to take measurements!?!), all it has to do is exist to CYA. RIAA: "User XYZ on your network is a pirate! We sue you!" NETWORK: "But, Judge, we used our CYA magic box! We did due diligence to stop nasty pirates by buying magic box. We are CYA." JUDGE: "They did due diligence. They are not responsible for nasty pirate. You must sue the pirate." RIAA: "We'll be back!" Etc. This will fail. But it will CYA. Like the caliper I bought recently that said to wear safety goggles (to take measurements!?!), all it has to do is exist to CYA.

RIAA: “User XYZ on your network is a pirate! We sue you!”

NETWORK: “But, Judge, we used our CYA magic box! We did due diligence to stop nasty pirates by buying magic box. We are CYA.”

JUDGE: “They did due diligence. They are not responsible for nasty pirate. You must sue the pirate.”

RIAA: “We’ll be back!”

Etc.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498693 Anonymous Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:32:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498693 @16 Not to mention that every time, it is automatically in your cache. Even if it isn't, having it display on your computer screen is still "another copy." @16
Not to mention that every time, it is automatically in your cache. Even if it isn’t, having it display on your computer screen is still “another copy.”

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498673 Anonymous Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:31:53 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498673 Looking at the internet is violating copyright. Every time you see a web page, the web page is downloaded to your computer. Might as well block the entire internet. Roze http://www.28chan.org/apstdt/ Looking at the internet is violating copyright. Every time you see a web page, the web page is downloaded to your computer. Might as well block the entire internet.

Roze
http://www.28chan.org/apstdt/

]]> By: lmao http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498638 lmao Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:20:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498638 No doubt that the "rules/hashes/ect" are based on a Subscription model. Well congrats for wasting all that money simply to find that "*.avi" has now been converted to a "*.rar" ;) Hey can i get a job with ya creating all the hashes, etc... dont forget tho, i would have to leech them first to generate the new checksums/rules sets !!! Like we have said before... FAiL. Look at it like this, you may as well ban the whole .net. Everytime i see a nice picture in my browser i "right click" & "save as". YES I AM INFRINGING COPYRIGHT. Stop me. Next please! No doubt that the “rules/hashes/ect” are based on a Subscription model.

Well congrats for wasting all that money simply to find that “*.avi” has now been converted to a “*.rar” ;)

Hey can i get a job with ya creating all the hashes, etc… dont forget tho, i would have to leech them first to generate the new checksums/rules sets !!!

Like we have said before… FAiL.

Look at it like this, you may as well ban the whole .net. Everytime i see a nice picture in my browser i “right click” & “save as”. YES I AM INFRINGING COPYRIGHT. Stop me.

Next please!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498630 Anonymous Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:47:00 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498630 iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 --tcp-flags RST RST -j DROP And the system's defeated. :) iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -i eth0 –tcp-flags RST RST -j DROP

And the system’s defeated. :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498629 Anonymous Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:43:41 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498629 "In the case, the judge ruled that before copyright enforcement can take place, the copyright owner is required to consider if the usage is fair use. An automated system is incapable of that." Does this mean that people who used the connection couldn't get in trouble for attempting to "pirate" if the connection were blocked? “In the case, the judge ruled that before copyright enforcement can take place, the copyright owner is required to consider if the usage is fair use. An automated system is incapable of that.”

Does this mean that people who used the connection couldn’t get in trouble for attempting to “pirate” if the connection were blocked?

]]> By: Killer Tree http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498625 Killer Tree Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:53:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498625 We should make our own protection software, it will be just as effective - whenever a user connects to the network a message will appear saying, "Please do not download any copywritten material, Thank you!" We can cut them a deal since it's for educational institutions at, say, $50,007. We'll be rich! We should make our own protection software, it will be just as effective – whenever a user connects to the network a message will appear saying, “Please do not download any copywritten material, Thank you!”
We can cut them a deal since it’s for educational institutions at, say, $50,007.
We’ll be rich!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498616 Anonymous Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:38:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498616 Interesting, it does look terribly bad :) Interesting, it does look terribly bad :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498614 Anonymous Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:34:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498614 this is dumb give up all anyone has to do is rar the files with a password or put them in a truecrypt container and they will go right past. you wasted money better spent on something else. this is dumb give up all anyone has to do is rar the files with a password or put them in a truecrypt container and they will go right past. you wasted money better spent on something else.

]]> By: #YLS# http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498613 #YLS# Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:19:04 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498613 This is stupid, if there was really a way to block this traffic there would be an open source answer, the fact as bittorrent's protocal is widely out there. it's a 'hardware' solution so an LED light flickers on and off every second just so you know it's working :D As for 'patterned packet system' means fake mumbo jumbo in a big metal case (with an LED of course). The RIAA might as well just get Y shaped sticks and start wobbling them in the direction of computers... "We've struck lawsuits"... This is stupid, if there was really a way to block this traffic there would be an open source answer, the fact as bittorrent’s protocal is widely out there. it’s a ‘hardware’ solution so an LED light flickers on and off every second just so you know it’s working :D

As for ‘patterned packet system’ means fake mumbo jumbo in a big metal case (with an LED of course). The RIAA might as well just get Y shaped sticks and start wobbling them in the direction of computers… “We’ve struck lawsuits”…

]]> By: ha http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498606 ha Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:46:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498606 Great article, I've been waiting for someone to shed a little light on Audible Magics snakeoil to the wider community. Its a joke as technology goes. Great article, I’ve been waiting for someone to shed a little light on Audible Magics snakeoil to the wider community. Its a joke as technology goes.

]]> By: www.eZee.se http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498591 www.eZee.se Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:06:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498591 So far well written... with informative links. Want to write a longer and more detailed comment but will wait for part two just incase you are covering it there. Nice job! Cheers! www.eZee.se So far well written… with informative links.

Want to write a longer and more detailed comment but will wait for part two just incase you are covering it there.

Nice job!

Cheers!
http://www.eZee.se

]]> By: s2pid http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498590 s2pid Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:05:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498590 It seems like skynet is true after all.CopySense seem to have made a fool of the copyright holder from being to able to deem whether the files in question are actually he's/her's.And also if CopySense is filtering other data types, It may also incorrectly weed out legitimate transfers. It seems like skynet is true after all.CopySense seem to have made a fool of the copyright holder from being to able to deem whether the files in question are actually he’s/her’s.And also if CopySense is filtering other data types, It may also incorrectly weed out legitimate
transfers.

]]> By: Ben Jones http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498586 Ben Jones Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:54:17 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498586 Not really. As service providers, they had no obligation until this just passed education bill, to try and curb it and if they did nothing, nothing would happen. Of course, Part 1 is only a buildup, part 2 is where things are interesting. Not really. As service providers, they had no obligation until this just passed education bill, to try and curb it and if they did nothing, nothing would happen.

Of course, Part 1 is only a buildup, part 2 is where things are interesting.

]]> By: more snake oil http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498584 more snake oil Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:42:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498584 Buying Audible Magic CopySense is done more for protecting oneself from legal attacks than from a perspective of "does it really work". By showing that they took the time and bore the often-considerable expense of trying to prevent P2P copyright infringement, that helps them in court -- as they know they are all walking the tightrope of avoiding expensive litigation by the copyright cartel. So even if universities are just buying snake oil, Audible Magic CopySense serves a very useful and valuable purpose. Buying Audible Magic CopySense is done more for protecting oneself from legal attacks than from a perspective of “does it really work”.

By showing that they took the time and bore the often-considerable expense of trying to prevent P2P copyright infringement, that helps them in court — as they know they are all walking the tightrope of avoiding expensive litigation by the copyright cartel.

So even if universities are just buying snake oil, Audible Magic CopySense serves a very useful and valuable purpose.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498579 Anonymous Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:33:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498579 aha, gotcha. sorry :) aha, gotcha. sorry :)

]]> By: Ben Jones http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498576 Ben Jones Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:26:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498576 Anon, the meaning is, does it actually work to stop copyright infringement, or are universities getting less notices, because the RIAA sends less to universities that have bought in to the system. Basically is any reduction down to the system, or down to something else? Anon, the meaning is, does it actually work to stop copyright infringement, or are universities getting less notices, because the RIAA sends less to universities that have bought in to the system. Basically is any reduction down to the system, or down to something else?

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498571 Anonymous Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:24:14 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498571 as i read it the first teaser paragraph in bold doesn't make much sense - "If you believe the anti-piracy lobbies, Audible Magic’s CopySense system is the absolute best system you can buy, protecting Universities, and more importantly, their students, from copyright violation accusations. However, the question has to be asked, “Does it really work?”" as i read it the first teaser paragraph in bold doesn’t make much sense – “If you believe the anti-piracy lobbies, Audible Magic’s CopySense system is the absolute best system you can buy, protecting Universities, and more importantly, their students, from copyright violation accusations. However, the question has to be asked, “Does it really work?””

]]> By: lol http://torrentfreak.com/copysense-sleek-predator-or-white-elephant-080926/#comment-498570 lol Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:22:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=4356#comment-498570 lol thats what 75k gets ya.. Powerless to stop us. lol thats what 75k gets ya..

Powerless to stop us.

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