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Court Denies Pirate Party Naming Right, Cites “Real Pirate” Confusion

There are dozens of Pirate parties around the world and although run by different people, most have something in common – the proud use of the word ‘Pirate’ in their name. But for Taiwan’s Pirate Party the term is causing all kinds of problems. The High Administrative Court has just ruled that the Party cannot use the word ‘Pirate’ to describe themselves, since citizens will confuse the Party’s aims with those of sea-based criminals.

From Argentina to Venezuala through Uruguay back up to Bosnia and Herzegovina via Nepal, Pirate parties are appearing all around the world.

From their Scandinavian roots in the Antipiratbyran movement from which the Pirate Bay was born, today Pirate policies are being spread using dozens of languages. Currently there are parties in at least 29 different countries and although subject to local variations there is one constant – the use of the word ‘Pirate’ in the party name.

But for the Taiwan Pirate Party the term is proving problematic. Its woes began earlier this year when local founder Tai Cheh logged an application to form the Party with the now standard ‘Pirate’ prefix. The application was rejected by the Ministry of the Interior as “improper” on the grounds that the word ‘pirate’ has “bad connotations”.

Tai, an associate psychology professor, immediately complained.

“It is a matter of free speech,” he said. “When parents name a child, should the government interfere and say: ‘Don’t name the child this way because it sounds bad’?”

A subsequent appeal by Tai to the Executive Yuan’s Administrative Appeals Commission was rejected in February, leading the professor to announce the filing of a lawsuit with the Tapai Administrative Court. The Court’s decision is now in and it’s bad news for the Party.

In its ruling, the High Administrative Court agreed with the Ministry of the Interior’s stance that the use of the word ‘Pirate’ did not accurately describe the true aims of the Party.

The MOI said that the term “pirate” could mislead members of the public into voting for people they believed to be real, sea-based pirates. The country’s Criminal Code outlaws acts of piracy, the MOI added.

Tai says that the English usage of the word “pirate” is associated with those who object to restrictive copyright and correspondingly his aim is to bring reform to Taiwan’s copyright and patent systems, not to form a criminal gang.

Of course, the word was originally used to describe people who engaged in crime at sea, but was later applied to those who snubbed their noses at restrictive licensing, such as in the case of ‘pirate’ radio operators.

In the history of the very first Pirate Party in Sweden, founder Rick Falkvinge says that using the term ‘pirate’ was a natural choice. In 2001, the copyright enforcement group Antipiratbyrån — (the Anti-Piracy Bureau) was formed, only to be countered two years later by Piratbyrån (the Piracy Bureau).

“Choosing that name, they wanted to signal that they were the progressives, and the antis were the regressives. These activists were the first to talk back to the copyright lobby, and immediately catapulted into media everywhere,” says Falkvinge. “Inspired by the talkback culture of Piratbyrån, a small subgroup of their activists set up a BitTorrent tracker as an experiment in the fall of 2003. They named it The Pirate Bay.”

In 2005, when copyright law was toughened again in Sweden, Falkvinge says it was time to take the war to the politicians, and threaten to take their jobs.

“It’s important to understand that at this point in Sweden, pirate policies were already established by the Piratbyrån. When the time came to politicize the issues, it was not a matter of founding a new party and start contemplating its name. It was a matter of founding The Pirate Party.”

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  • Mcfunny cunty the third

    “When parents name a child, should the government interfere and say: ‘Don’t name the child this way because it sounds bad’?”

    I agree, I named my son… Pedophile Phillip McRapist

    seriously but….  they should call it “Antipiratbyran” then

    • Captain Buzzoverinthehead DFC

      I named mine Rupert Murdoch.

      • Woodyinyourface

        Cruel bastard!

        • http://nipp.me/abup Collene S. Tsai

          Their “roots in the Antipiratbyran movement”? You confused me. http://DemoforFrank.blogspot.com

        • http://thnlnk.com/financial-reports/TheLink/024 Mary G. Perry

          the unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book, recording, television program, http://DemoforFrank.blogspot.com

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      • Jamesl1

         Without Rupert Murdoch the leftie media would rule our lives.

        Nobody would criticize the Messiah Obama.

        Everyone would live in a Soviet style media oppression.

        Lefite govts are trying to shut Murdoch down because he is the only one that dares call them out on their liberal bull.

        • tryrtytry

          What planet r u on ?

          Liberals criticize Obama way more than conservatives do.
          Conservatives just bitch about irrelevant things that fox news tells them.
          Indefinite detentions etc … where is the conservative outcry ?
          Dems supporters are sheeple, Repubs supporters are sheeple.

          If you think the ideology matters, you are a fool.
          Both sides have been bought and paid for.

          Murdock has bought the republicans…. rationalize it all you want.
          Scumbag corrupting politics for his rich friends.. is scumbag.
           

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        • BJonesTF

          Just as a side note, you DO know that following a lawsuit against a Fox station in Tampa, Florida, the FCC requirement that news reporting be factually based has been effectively nullified.

          While it was an independent fox station (Tampa Bay Comms. inc. owned it) Amicus briefs in support of them were filed by ALL major US networks, THREE from various arms of News International.

          Basically, in the US, the news media can legally lie in news reporting (the story at the heart of it was about a Monsanto milk plant and high levels of bovine Growth hormone in milk. Before the story went out, Monsanto complained to the Fox station, the Fox station turned the story 180, to appease their advertiser, and then fired the reporters when they complained about the lies publicly. Thats Fox LOCAL news, which has a better reputation for accuracy and integrity than the national arm. There’s also been a number of studies showing that the greater your percentage of News International-owned news you see/read, more more likely you are to be factually incorrect on topics. Mainly because the majority of the Fox News Channel (for instance) is officially NOT news, but opinion-editorials (which have ZERO accuracy requirement, or even oversight, and very strong protection against Libel). They only have 3 hours of official ‘news’ programming a night.

        • Nail on the head BJTF

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    • cgimusic

      You shouldn’t really do that. They might unfairly gain popularity through people confusing them with an actual paedophile and rapist.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        First group is fine, second group isn’t. Pedosexuals are a normal sexuality that has been around since mankind first appeared on this planet.

        The only reason that they are now so derided is because homosexuals and heterosexuals outside of marriage are not allowed to be used as boogie men for society, along with interracials.

        • sic fuck needs dealt with

          “Pedosexuals” Child RAPISTS
          It is the same as rape. Stop trying to justify it with irrelevant arguments.
          You will NEVER make it “allowed”, it is on the scale of [exploitation>>>>rape]. You sic fucks will use any excuse to justify being on that scale.
          Denial will make it worse for you, you think you have the right to exploit kids for you sexual gain. Society says NO…. we will cut your dick off when we get you. Be ready for that !

        • Rodrigo

          “Pedosexuals are a normal sexuality that has been around since mankind first appeared on this planet.”

          How does that possibly mean it’s moral or ok to do? Murder has been around since the beginning of mankind too. Does that mean murder is normal and good?

          Look up the naturalistic fallacy. It’s a logical fallacy people use that says that just because something occurs naturally, it is a good thing. It’s been used to defend everything from gender oppression, to slavery, to now pedosexuality.

          Research shows vastly increased psychological risk factors to children under the age of 14-16 who have sex with someone vastly older than them that is unaffected by social conditions or norms. Homosexuality shows minimal psychological risks, and those are severely reduced when examined in areas with tolerant social norms.

          Pedosexuality has been derided in western culture since the enlightenment, and for much longer in other countries. The media has increased focus on it, true, but it hasn’t been “normal” for centuries, no matter what your personal preferences would lead you to want to believe is true.

    • Kyle

       http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/31/adolf-hitler-campbell-custody-battle-nazi-names-new-jersey_n_1561046.html His kids weren’t removed from their home for abuse, he argued, but for their parents’ beliefs and the names they chose to reflect those sentiments.

      They already remove your kids if u  call them names they don’t like. In this county I’m in, the word Kush will get you investigated for 1.5 months just for saying the word. If your name was Kush, I would assume that you would be investigated your whole life since the word is banned and I mentioned it once and then had about 30 people or more surveillance me for mentioning that word. The product i a legal product in all 50 states also but that does not mean they will not arrest your for it.

      • ScrewEwe2

        If I have a plant that’s mostly green but partially purple in color, that I really appreciate, which has a sweet appealing aroma, and I give it a nice name like “My Sweet Kush Bush” would I get in trouble in your country?

        Unfortunately, I would probably get in trouble in my country.

        • Kyle

           The country is usa, the state is Texas, the city is Caldwell Tx.

        • Asdf

          your plant looks like it’s infested with aliens. I’d get in trouble in my country too if I had a plant infested with aliens.

    • Death

      Mine’s Stabby McStab Stab.

    • Mechno

       My boy now goes by the name of Boner McWiener.

  • thedude321

    LOL!

    Curse them land lubbers! :P

  • cgimusic

    Surely if people are mislead to think they are actual pirates less people will vote for them.

    • netgrazer

      Who knows how strong the pro sea robber sentiments are in Taiwan!

    • minorsquabbles

      And how can people even be convinced that real-life sea-based law-breaking PIRATES are able to form their own POLITICAL PARTIES in a country like Taiwan? Seriously?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jakob-Wessel-Hildrum/846135273 Jakob Wessel Hildrum

      Surely people aren’t THAT dumb…

      • $100

        Wanna bet ?

        I have proof that people believe Fox News btw… still wanna bet ?

        • Ohwef

          Need not bet. I can already see them on Fox News

      • Pooboy

         People in Taiwan can be exceedingly dumb.  Everything is about saving face (code for blaming everyone else for EVERYTHING, and/or never trying hard at anything because you might make a mistake), and payoffs.

        The Pirate Party just needs to slip the government a hong bao (red envelope).  That’s the traditional way to bribe the government to get what you want.  They probably forgot that part.

  • 123

    It’s “Venezuela” not “Venuzuala”.

  • Lethn

    I love this, this is priceless.

    • Violated0

      Yes they seem to ignore that Piracy has more than one definition…

      1.practice of a pirate;  robbery or illegal violence at sea.2.the unauthorized reproduction or use of a copyrighted book,recording, television program, patented invention,trademarked product, etc.: The record industry is beset withpiracy.3.Also called stream capture. Geology . diversion of the upperpart of one stream by the headward growth of another.

      • Abyssal Warrior

         #2 is not an accepted definition. It’s merely the improper term Big Content use to make casual file sharing sound worse than it actually is.

        • Guest

          “Copyright piracy” is used in ACTA and TPPA to refer to what he said.

  • ndmushroom

    Their “roots in the Antipiratbyran movement”? You confused me. Thankfully you set the record straight further on (“the copyright enforcement group Antipiratbyrån — (the Anti-Piracy
    Bureau) was formed, only to be countered two years later by Piratbyrån
    (the Piracy Bureau)”).

    Shouldn’t the first sentence read “from their roots in the Piratbyran movement” instead?

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  • Kbdlah

    So we ain’t the pirates of the seas? So why call us pirates?

    • YARIGHT

      the filesharing party
      the internet party
      the fuckgovt party <- i want that tai govt to respond to that one….

      • Anonymous

        If we really were a democratic government, that would so get passed.

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  • FrostyC

    So any word that has more than one meaning is off limits? It seems all they can name it is the “Fuck Copyright” party…

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jakob-Wessel-Hildrum/846135273 Jakob Wessel Hildrum

      Not a bad name tbh ;p

    • Guest

      Nah, drop the “fuck”. They should just name themselves The Copyright  Party. It would make the MAFIAA go straight up apoplectic.

    • Anonymous

      From Taiwan here. I can understand the confusion because we still have real pirates, people at sea to rob other boats. 

      • FrostyC

        Perhaps they will join our cause!

  • Andrew Lee

    You’ve gotta be careful out there on them open seas with all the swashbuckling pirates. “I’m not talking about them pirates on a crappy 2 person boat with a rpg either.”

    Still I love pirate parties where I can dress up to be Blackbeard. Yohoho arrrrr!
    I hope there is a Pirate party around here soon so I can go pillage and plunder!!

    :P

  • The Muss

    Well yeah in those countries the term “pirate” means sea robbers.   because they don’t use much internet and they’re actually close to sea

    • Guest

      Indeed. Also, I’d much rather prefer the pirate parties to be named something else. Why? because the average person would affiliate pirate parties with either sea robbers or internet piracy to be legalised (which isn’t what they are all about). I think something which shows they are pro-freedom of expression in the parties title would encourage more people to vote for them. Such as “The Freedom Party” :O

      • Sabel44

        i agree with you. piracy has a very negative conotation.
        a new name is needed.
        i think the court might actually have done them a favour. time to put their brains to work and come up with something more appealing.

        • Sensible Shoes

          How about The ‘We’re Not Actually Traditional Sea-Faring Pirates Even Though We’re Called The Pirate Party’ Party? Pretty much spells it out and ends confusion.

          No need to use the full title on any promotional material of course. Much like The Labour Party abbreviate their name to ‘Labour’ and The Conservative Party abbreviate theirs to ‘Conservatives’, The ‘We’re Not Actually Traditional Sea-Faring Pirates Even Though We’re Called The Pirate Party’ Party could just use… oh I dunno… ‘The Pirate Party’ as a colloquial moniker.

        • Lord of the Files

          Actually “The Conservatives” tends to get shortened even further than that. Around here they’re known as the “Cons” which does a great job of summing them up.

          I like the idea above for “The Freedom Party”. Or how about “The Pro-Freedom Party”? Perhaps even “The Pro-Liberty & Freedom Party” might work which is about as perfectly descriptive and accurate as they could get. The majority of the public cares a great deal about those two ideals, so it might help them gets the votes, certainly more-so than “Pirate Party” would.

          I know there is the principle of the thing and that not allowing the word “Pirate” is kind of stupid. People might have been confused in the 1700′s, but I honestly don’t believe they would be today as is being claimed. Still it’s probably better to approach this from a marketing standpoint. Popularity is half the battle after all.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jakob-Wessel-Hildrum/846135273 Jakob Wessel Hildrum

        The problem is that sounds too much like the hypocritical extremist parties across europe. Extravagant use of the word ‘Freedom’ in the US has also lead that word to carry, ironically, negative connotations for a lot of people. To name it in line with its political goals would sound too beurocratic, and could possibly turn away the people they appeal to. There’s a strong anti-establishment flavour to the whole pirate movement, keeping the language of the internet could be a powerful PR tool in social media and the likes. Short and simple works when dealing with masses.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          Goatse party!!

        • Anyone

          Lemon Party
          (google it, I dare you :p)

        • PenalGoo

          @Gene_P00le:disqus I’d vote for your party, except that my loyalties are already with the 2 Girls 1 Cup Party.

      • Asdf

         the freedom party is way too corny

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  • Jack Sparrow

    I agree.
    I hate being associated with these copyright infringers. 

    • The Real Jack Sparrow

      Long Live TPB !

      • The Real Fake Jack Sparrow

        Yaaaarrrrr!!!!

  • RantoYang

    Man those kangaroo courts really crack me up man!
    Dot-Anon.tk 

  • GrumpyGit78

     ”The MOI said that the term “pirate” could mislead members of the public
    into voting for people they believed to be real, sea-based pirates.”

    So they really believe people would want to vote in real pirates to run government.? O_o

    ‘FFS we wanted real pirates with guns not the pirates with bittorrent’

  • Mwhahaha

    To be fair to the court’s decision, there are an awfully large amount of terribly stupid people around.

  • Anonymous

    fuck me! is there any other more stupid excuse any court can actually think of? how much were these corrupt arse holes paid to dream up this friggin reason? i assume the previous, already recognised political parties have kicked up, being shit scared that people will vote for another. think of another name, guys. as long as the aims and intentions are the same, the name really means little!

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  • Dilema

    Interesting that the government claims that their name is not representative of their values (policy), yet the industries and lobbyists brands those exact same values as “pirate”. Someone needs to educate the government.

  • Waseihou

    INTERNET PARTY
    would work, then put the pirate logo into it
    for a lot of people it would sound well – political party focused on internet aiming to get young voters, party for young and progressive people who likes internet

    => you know, some old hag could actually vote for a party for young if they have some good program for them, like free education and health care

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  • a-non

    That sucks, the “Copyright Theft Party” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

    • http://www.peoplesnote.org Don Reba

       ”Sharing and Friendship Party” might attract too many MLP fans.

      • Fredrika

        > ” “Sharing and Friendship Party” might attract too many MLP fans.”

        Now what’s wrong with MLP fans!?!? MLP, HK and PPG rules!! =P

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    • Fredrika

      > “That sucks, the “Copyright Theft Party” just doesn’t have the same ring to it.”

      I’m not sure i understand your line of reasoning behind that name? The Pirate Parties are pro-copyright as in copyright on a conceptual level, and against theft, in particular some of the illegitimate theft that the current copyright monopoly performs on peoples property rights, so how exactly do you mean?

  • ScrewEwe2

    As Joanne Cun-Ling, Ah Kum, Ah Lam, Chao-xing, Hùifang, Jiaying, Meixiang, Ninghong and some ditzy floozy named Suzie Yukfuk said, They didnt even know that a single mom in Taiwan can’t run for a seat under the Pirate Party moniker because people might confuse them with Sea Pirates. From my perspective, Chinese peoples names are pretty damn confusing to me, allthough the name Sum Yung-fuk has a nice ring to it.

    On Topic, can’t one of you Anonymous folks DOS the hell out of these spammers sites? Where’s a good hacker when you need one?

  • townie2

    whats the problem, do the “seagoing criminals” have the copyright on the name pirate? no? well seems to me its up for grabs.

  • http://www.peoplesnote.org Don Reba

     I guess, this means there are many sea pirate sympathizers in Taiwan and not enough big media lobbying. Countries with stronger media lobbies would deny sea pirates political representation, for fear of confusing them with “real” pirates and the corresponding negative connotation.

  • Mas

    “we steal and worship mickey mouse and poo”

    • Fredrika

      >“”we steal and worship mickey mouse and poo”"

      You’re talking about the Disney Corporation right? Because they do steal a lot, they have stolen from the public domain several times when they’ve lobbied to extend the copyright monopoly. Their monopoly steal from all peoples property rights all the time, and there was some stealing regarding the original idea behind Mickey Mouse and Steamboat Willie.

      Worse thieves than Disney and Hollywood are hard to find, but i hadn’t heard that they steal and worship poo..

      • Byte Master

        As much as I despise Disney Corp. (mainly for using the Great Wall Of Copyright that contains Our collective Culture of at least the last century as a marketing gimmick: ‘the Disney vault’), you cannot per definition steal from the Public Domain. That’s what makes it the Public Domain: you can use it for-profit if you want to.

        • Fredrika

          > “..you cannot per definition steal from the Public Domain. That’s what makes it the Public Domain: you can use it for-profit if you want to.”

          By definition? By definition the word stealing has nothing to do with copyright. I’m using the word semantically, in the correct manner though, unlike when the pro-copyright monopoly trolls use it about infringing, which can never be consider theft.

          But theft has indeed taken place from the public domain, both the existing and the promised. Many intellectual works that the public had been guaranteed would enter the public domain when the copyright monopoly at the time, which they had privileged the creators with, ran out, all of a sudden wasn’t going to enter public domain any more, because of the extensions that among others Disney lobbied through. That could very well be considered theft. The people knew, expected and had been promised that those works would enter the public domain at a particular point in time, and all of a sudden that scheduled and promised event was taken away from them. If you have a contract with an employer and you expect your pay check at the end of the month, and you all of a sudden learn that the check wont be coming because they have changed the rules, do you not consider your salary to have been stolen?

          If you argue that it can’t be considered theft because the works hadn’t yet entered the public domain, and that works that had already entered the public domain didn’t get their copyright status renewed because of the extensions, you should be aware of the fact that the only countries where works that had entered public domain weren’t reinstated as copyrighted because of extensions were the US and Australia. In most(all?) countries in the rest of the world the opposite applied, and works that had already entered the public domain were all of a sudden removed from it. Thanks to worldwide lobbying done by mainly Disney and its friends of thieves.

  • Stinky

    Let me get this straight. The court in Taiwan won’t let the “Pirate Party” name themselves the “Pirate Party”? Who cares? Slow news day I guess…

    • john doe

      Better slow news than no news. I am particularly interested in every bit.

  • Hedgehog

    I wonder if “Etarip Party” would be accepted

    • tigerkarp

      P12473 Party

  • Gridlock

    I´m personally fine with the name The Pirate Party.
    If i may take a line out of the show Transformers Prime where Megatron explains why they call themselves decepticons: “The word Decepticon was meant to demonic us, but we wear it as a mantle of pride, because if speaking the truth is deception then we are gladly guilty.”
    The word Pirate was slapped on filesheares as a means to make all of this look like nothing more then the actions of petty criminals.
    Well now those petty criminals have taken that mantle meant to demean them and used it as a mantle of pride.
    Hopefully when the Pirate Parties get elected into government in several countries, the politicians will start to take notice.
    In Denmark (where i live) i hope we will one day get either a “pirate” Friendly person or one from the Pirate Party itself elected as the minister of culture, that way we might actually get some decent copyright laws.
    I don´t think it will happen though as the various anti-pirate corporations probably will do their fair share of threats and bribes to make sure it will never happen.

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  • http://trucklicense.net/Get-CDL MikeJones

    “The MOI said that the term “pirate” could mislead members of the public
    into voting for people they believed to be real, sea-based pirates.”

    So they really believe people would want to vote in real pirates to run government.?

  • Neb12

    Might as well Mike. They already jacked the government. Nobody griped about stealing that. The riaa. that is

  • Jimbo

    i wonder what Rik has to say about this?

  • kantofang

    Well now that makes a lot of sense dude, Wow.
    Dot-Anon.tk 

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  • Harqueubus

    Wot! Are the Taiwanese that stupid?

    • Anonymous

      We literally have pirates. The kinds that rob ships at sea. I can imagine the confusion.

  • #Internet

    but..but.. what name should they choose if want the Pirate Party in Somalia?

  • john doe

    Show the judge a list of all the pirate party names around the world.

    If it still doesn’t work, use E-PIRATE instead and drop the E somewhere in the future.

    Problem solved.

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  • TheOiulkj

    Yea that sucks and everything, but in the end who gives a damn about Taiwan anyways.

  • ogbranflakes

    One big facepalm to taiwan..

  • Guest

    Great article now we “internet pirates” are confused with “sea pirates”. Nice!

    • Neb12

      They are getting ready for the U.S.. 2 years for downloading a scooby doo in Japan? And a fine?

      Get real. I am a street urchin and your fines are a joke and jail is better than the street.

      These folks technology is running them over. And over, and over.

      For a lousy nickel………..

      http://www.welovemoney.com

  • Guest

    It’s kind of similar in Russia, official registration of “The Pirate Party” was rejected by the government back in 2011 with official reason “piracy means sea robbery and it can’t be used as a party name because it’s a crime”.

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