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		<title>By: סקירת חדשות מעולם המשפט &#124; קניין רוחני &#124; 19.12.2013 &#124; משפט ועסקים</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[סקירת חדשות מעולם המשפט &#124; קניין רוחני &#124; 19.12.2013 &#124; משפט ועסקים]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 10:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;]  ענקיות החיפוש אומנם רגילות לקבל בקשות להסרת כתובות ספציפיות מכוח חוק ה-DMCA מבעלי זכויות היוצרים, אך בצרפת נקבע רף חדש. בית-המשפט העליון בפריז הורה לענקיות החיפוש גוגל, מיקרוסופט ויאהו שלא להציג בתוצאות החיפוש שלהן ששה-עשר אתרי תוכן המשדרים תכנים בשיטת ה&quot;הזרמה&quot; (Streaming). בית-המשפט אף הורה למספר ספקיות אינטרנט במדינה לחסום בפועל גישה לאותם אתרים, שעיקר עיסוקם הוא הפצת סרטים בצורה פיראטית הכרוכה בהפרת זכויות יוצרים. [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;]  ענקיות החיפוש אומנם רגילות לקבל בקשות להסרת כתובות ספציפיות מכוח חוק ה-DMCA מבעלי זכויות היוצרים, אך בצרפת נקבע רף חדש. בית-המשפט העליון בפריז הורה לענקיות החיפוש גוגל, מיקרוסופט ויאהו שלא להציג בתוצאות החיפוש שלהן ששה-עשר אתרי תוכן המשדרים תכנים בשיטת ה&quot;הזרמה&quot; (Streaming). בית-המשפט אף הורה למספר ספקיות אינטרנט במדינה לחסום בפועל גישה לאותם אתרים, שעיקר עיסוקם הוא הפצת סרטים בצורה פיראטית הכרוכה בהפרת זכויות יוצרים. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/#comment-1165570</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Politicians and lawmakers are too 19th century to understand the Internet. Who needs domain names to share data? Take a look at RetroShare and smile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians and lawmakers are too 19th century to understand the Internet. Who needs domain names to share data? Take a look at RetroShare and smile.</p>
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		<title>By: AtariBaby</title>
		<link>/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/#comment-1165154</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AtariBaby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, Google operates there, for one thing. If a company wants to do business in France, they&#039;re going to have to obey the laws of France. Even in some unlikely event where google refused to speak to the court, the government could have google.fr shut down, and even then, if google.com was accessible in France, the court could use its powers to compel Google to appear, or else essentially be viewed as operating illegally. They could tell ISP&#039;s to block it, and do all kinds of things to make a bad time for google. Technically, if I start broadcasting anti-Communist podcasts, the government of China could try to have me deported to face charges. But of course they won&#039;t, and the US government wouldn&#039;t cooperate. But if I was suspected of murdering a Chinese citizen the US government might well cooperate!

Things are not as simple as US corporations ignoring the French courts, unfortunately.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Google operates there, for one thing. If a company wants to do business in France, they&#8217;re going to have to obey the laws of France. Even in some unlikely event where google refused to speak to the court, the government could have google.fr shut down, and even then, if google.com was accessible in France, the court could use its powers to compel Google to appear, or else essentially be viewed as operating illegally. They could tell ISP&#8217;s to block it, and do all kinds of things to make a bad time for google. Technically, if I start broadcasting anti-Communist podcasts, the government of China could try to have me deported to face charges. But of course they won&#8217;t, and the US government wouldn&#8217;t cooperate. But if I was suspected of murdering a Chinese citizen the US government might well cooperate!</p>
<p>Things are not as simple as US corporations ignoring the French courts, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: Thamstras</title>
		<link>/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/#comment-1165144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thamstras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 22:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hang on. How does a court in Paris have the jurisdiction to effect a company incorporated in america?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on. How does a court in Paris have the jurisdiction to effect a company incorporated in america?</p>
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		<title>By: johanpeeters83</title>
		<link>/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/#comment-1165024</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[then may be able to shut down torrent sites but they can`t stop peer2peer  try out `soulseek`]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>then may be able to shut down torrent sites but they can`t stop peer2peer  try out `soulseek`</p>
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		<title>By: Bernerd</title>
		<link>/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/#comment-1164603</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bernerd]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are far far worse things on the internet that the money spent in obtaining this &quot;victory&quot; should have been spent on getting blocked/delisted etc! It seems unethical that there pictures of abused children, dog fighting, animal cruelty, rapes, murders, torture, I could go on but I wont, and these people are spending hundred of thousands of dollars getting a streaming site blocked!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are far far worse things on the internet that the money spent in obtaining this &#8220;victory&#8221; should have been spent on getting blocked/delisted etc! It seems unethical that there pictures of abused children, dog fighting, animal cruelty, rapes, murders, torture, I could go on but I wont, and these people are spending hundred of thousands of dollars getting a streaming site blocked!</p>
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		<title>By: Seed2Peer.com</title>
		<link>/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/#comment-1164116</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seed2Peer.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 21:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it&#039;s better to remove youtube, with 1000s of illegal videos hosted ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s better to remove youtube, with 1000s of illegal videos hosted ;)</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Paris court orders search engines and ISPs to block websites</title>
		<link>/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/#comment-1163611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[&#187; Paris court orders search engines and ISPs to block websites]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 17:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Court Orders Google, Microsoft &amp; Yahoo to Make Pirate Sites Disappear (29.11.2013) http://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pi&#8230; [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Court Orders Google, Microsoft &amp; Yahoo to Make Pirate Sites Disappear (29.11.2013) <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pi&#038;#8230" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pi&#038;#8230</a>; [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Lax</title>
		<link>/court-orders-google-microsoft-yahoo-to-make-pirate-sites-disappear-131129/#comment-1163575</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny Lax]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They need to stop all this crap.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to stop all this crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon Trotsky</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leon Trotsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What you have stated above is, from one perspective, basically true. &quot;Pure Capitalism&quot; is a myth and has never existed, as well as rarely if ever defined. But it is often brought up to disprove the existence of capitalism today - like saying since god doesn&#039;t exist there is also no religious belief. 



Modern capitalism is tightly bound up with the state - and there is a reason for this and the absence of mythically pure capitalism - *because it cannot exist*. The limits imposed on capitalist operations serve to reinforce the capitalist paradigm the rule of capitalists as a class. Why do we have a minimum wage, food stamps, food safety regulations, laws against dumping toxic waste in playgrounds? Because without these, and the capitalist state - capitalism as a system would collapse within weeks. 


I&#039;m not familiar with your reference to Switzerland. 



I&#039;m not suggesting any system in particular - other than to suggest humanity now faces a choice between capitalism and survival. This is not pure conjecture, there are data and gobs of analysis that point to a world 20 years hence or less in which basic resources can no longer support the worlds population (even assuming equitable distribution), and that this situation is being and will have been brought about by the paradoxies of capitalism. It seems to me that whatever humanity chooses to replace capitalism with, it will have to look a lot more like the communism or socialism proposed by many people (but not by people like Stalin). In other words, real equality must extend not only to the political, but to the economic sphere in addition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you have stated above is, from one perspective, basically true. &#8220;Pure Capitalism&#8221; is a myth and has never existed, as well as rarely if ever defined. But it is often brought up to disprove the existence of capitalism today &#8211; like saying since god doesn&#8217;t exist there is also no religious belief. </p>
<p>Modern capitalism is tightly bound up with the state &#8211; and there is a reason for this and the absence of mythically pure capitalism &#8211; *because it cannot exist*. The limits imposed on capitalist operations serve to reinforce the capitalist paradigm the rule of capitalists as a class. Why do we have a minimum wage, food stamps, food safety regulations, laws against dumping toxic waste in playgrounds? Because without these, and the capitalist state &#8211; capitalism as a system would collapse within weeks. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with your reference to Switzerland. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting any system in particular &#8211; other than to suggest humanity now faces a choice between capitalism and survival. This is not pure conjecture, there are data and gobs of analysis that point to a world 20 years hence or less in which basic resources can no longer support the worlds population (even assuming equitable distribution), and that this situation is being and will have been brought about by the paradoxies of capitalism. It seems to me that whatever humanity chooses to replace capitalism with, it will have to look a lot more like the communism or socialism proposed by many people (but not by people like Stalin). In other words, real equality must extend not only to the political, but to the economic sphere in addition.</p>
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