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By: Lefa

Lefa — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:37:21 +0000

So is this freedom of speech or what? How the fuck can a court order independent sites to publish some crap they don’t want to?! Disturbing!

By: TC

TC — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:12:19 +0000

@ Duh

There is fact two different Courts in France.

One is for “Civil Law” with many layers and the other the “Penal/Criminal Law” for serious charges (thief, murder, rape, etc.)

It’s mandatory by Law, in the second case, that no names will be ever release by the medias (in order to get the info, you’ll have to get an appointment face to face with some guy at the Court. Even then, only a reading will be made to U : no copy.)

@ Blog

Yes you are right. In order to get some money from publication (Civil Law) you either have to have a business registered as “Legal Publisher” or in case for a newspaper to mention it all under a special page : “Legal Notices”

I think in this first ever case in France ! the Court and Numerama didn’t see it coming when obliging Majors request to go to any Web site of their choice.

Two infringements at once !

By: BLOB

BLOB — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:24:27 +0000

#99, TC:

The printing press has predefined spaces and pages for publicity. Those are the spaces that are used not only for publicity, but also when an identity wants (or is forced to) to make a public announcement (open letters, openning of govement contracts, etc).

Those are the same spaces that I think the court was refering to(ignorance over new tech), because I don’t see a French court having ANY power over ANY press identity to force them to use an article space to release anything. The only exception might be if that particular press identity loses a trial and is told by the court to issue a public apology to the winning party or retract of a story (wish in most cases goes in the editorial page).

By: French Court Orders P2P News Site To Report On File Sharing Convictions | dv8-designs

Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:13:57 +0000

[...] an odd one. Apparently a French news site that focuses on file sharing/BitTorrent/P2P news has been ordered by a court to report on the convictions of file sharers in France. It’s not entirely clear under what laws, but perhaps it’s a “fairness [...]

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By: Duh

Duh — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:47:57 +0000

I think the French court has crossed over the line here. They can’t and shouldn’t damn the convicted forever. Moreover, it may build up an urge for revenge which can be dangerous. And I’m not talking about pirates only. But then again, does murderers, molesters and other more dangerous ones are given the same fate? Not all of them are still bad after they got out of jail. Some do become good guys and some are better than good guys as they recruited by the goverment.

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In France, it’s newsworthy IF THE COURT SAYS SO! | — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:15:35 +0000

[...] From Torrent Freak: In their reporting they try to counterbalance the propaganda being spread by the various anti-piracy outlets. This hasn’t gone unnoticed by the major movie and music studios who have asked the court of Nanterre to order the site to publish extracts of convictions of 27 copyright infringers. [...]

By: none

none — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:09:59 +0000

Its no supprise to see the frenchman just giving in tho really

By: Judge Credd

Judge Credd — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:24:40 +0000

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Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:45:42 +0000

[...] Court Orders P2P News Site To Dishonor Convicted Pirates Following a request from the entertainment industries, a French court has ordered the P2P news site Numerama to cover the cases of 27 convicted file-sharers. For their efforts the site receives 10,000 euros which they promise to spend wisely by supporting a pro file-sharing cause. [...]

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By: TC

TC — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 04:13:28 +0000

Blob,

No, matter of space is not an issue – you may find “paying” websites in France which will gladly display it all.

But they [Numerama] can go to court arguing that the media chosen to be reproduced to deliver the verdicts on their website is mentionning names, adresses, job, etc.

That is against the Law !

Article 7 on Computing & Privacy Rights in French Law … so rightly so that French Gvt Websites respect that Law.

Obviously, as I wrote just before, Numerama is heading the wrong tracks.

By: BLOB

BLOB — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:48:45 +0000

“…old issue of old law/new technology…”, I ment.

By: BLOB

BLOB — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:46:34 +0000

Not shure if this was already mentioned here(hell if I’m off to read every single comment), but this rings me as the old old law/new technology incompatibility.

Possibly there’s a chance that Numerama can go to court against the state(and win) by showing that as the medium isn’t the same as printing press, there’s no advertisement/announcement space, therefore they cannot comply with the court order.

I don’t know the French law, but what I mentined it’s logical in a democratic judicial system.

By: TC

TC — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:25:54 +0000

Yes the money got out of the pocket of the convicted persons.

Redistribute ? why not .. I think Numerama got all the names, adresses and the amount of each fine (so to give a proportionnal check). Hum … just making fun out of Numerama.

The outraging thing is Numerama telling this story on its website as “The majors are handing us out 10 000″ !!!

What a way handy way from Numerama to cover their own shit !

By: Court Orders P2P News Site To Dishonor Convicted Pirates

Court Orders P2P News Site To Dishonor Convicted Pirates — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:58:21 +0000

[...] addthis_pub = ‘Regeneration’; Posted by Regeneration on June 16th, 2009, 05:36 AM Following a request from the entertainment industries, a French court has ordered the P2P news site Numerama to cover the cases of 27 convicted file-sharers. For their efforts the site receives 10,000 euros which they promise to spend wisely by supporting a pro file-sharing cause. numeramaNumerama is a French news site dedicated to file-sharing and copyright issues, much like TorrentFreak. They have openly criticized the Hadopi anti-piracy legislation and everything else spawned from the entertainment industries ?war on piracy?. In their reporting they try to counterbalance the propaganda being spread by the various anti-piracy outlets. This hasn?t gone unnoticed by the major movie and music studios who have asked the court of Nanterre to order the site to publish extracts of convictions of 27 copyright infringers. The convictions are all related to copyright infringement and Numerama has published the first of three batches this Friday. The abstracts contain personal information such as the names, addresses, and birth dates of the convicted, as well as the sentence and the crime they?ve committed. Read the entire article at TorrentFreak. [...]

By: Tiak

Tiak — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:01:33 +0000

Why not just redistribute the money back to the victi-err, convicts?…

By: french legal system ?

french legal system ? — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:50:15 +0000

watch cnn, fox, any of that crap is already biased…

By: Annonymuse

Annonymuse — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:53:34 +0000

Fuck France!

The worst country EVER!