Comments on: IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Fri, 25 May 2012 10:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Daily newsfeed 06/29/2009 « baixachiado http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-574178 Daily newsfeed 06/29/2009 « baixachiado Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:01:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-574178 [...] IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules | TorrentFreak [...] [...] IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules | TorrentFreak [...]

]]> By: Justsomedownloader http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570805 Justsomedownloader Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:03:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570805 "somebody using your IP address is scary." Exactly its pretty trivial for someone (who knows what they're doing) to use the average persons computer to download and store "stuff" on a hidden partition. And ,once in, these same people can erase there hacking tracks and use any legit software that has access to the net, and most do for "updates", to send info back and forth “somebody using your IP address is scary.”
Exactly its pretty trivial for someone (who knows what they’re doing) to use the average persons computer to download and store “stuff” on a hidden partition.
And ,once in, these same people can erase there hacking tracks and use any legit software that has access to the net, and most do for “updates”, to send info back and forth

]]> By: me http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570799 me Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:29:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570799 above supposed to go to #23 sorry above supposed to go to #23 sorry

]]> By: me http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570798 me Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:28:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570798 @28, yes we can win you can loose if you choose @28, yes we can win you can loose if you choose

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]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570464 Anonymous Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:33:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570464 ENCRYPT,ENCRYPT,ENCRYPT! ENCRYPT,ENCRYPT,ENCRYPT!

]]> By: Tech News Tuesday June 16, 2009 | The Contemplation http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570423 Tech News Tuesday June 16, 2009 | The Contemplation Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:33:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570423 [...] Gotta Love DHCP Rome court ruled that an IP address does not identify an infringer, only a particular connection. Only solution for ISP - give users assigned IP address.  (Torrent Freak . . .) [...] [...] Gotta Love DHCP Rome court ruled that an IP address does not identify an infringer, only a particular connection. Only solution for ISP – give users assigned IP address.  (Torrent Freak . . .) [...]

]]> By: Italy: IP address insufficient proof of crime-TorrentFreak « FACT – Freedom Against Censorship Thailand http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570356 Italy: IP address insufficient proof of crime-TorrentFreak « FACT – Freedom Against Censorship Thailand Wed, 17 Jun 2009 07:15:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570356 [...] http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/ [...] [...] http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/ [...]

]]> By: Italy Is The Latest Country To Realize IP Address Alone Does Not ID File Sharers | dv8-designs http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570285 Italy Is The Latest Country To Realize IP Address Alone Does Not ID File Sharers | dv8-designs Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:11:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570285 [...] how that’s a problem. So it’s nice to see that an Italian court is now recognizing that IP addresses alone are not enough to identify a file sharer, and even throwing out cases that don’t have much more in the way of evidence. Still, in most [...] [...] how that’s a problem. So it’s nice to see that an Italian court is now recognizing that IP addresses alone are not enough to identify a file sharer, and even throwing out cases that don’t have much more in the way of evidence. Still, in most [...]

]]> By: Italy Is The Latest Country To Realize IP Address Alone Does Not ID File Sharers http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570279 Italy Is The Latest Country To Realize IP Address Alone Does Not ID File Sharers Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:03:16 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570279 [...] recognize how that's a problem. So it's nice to see that an Italian court is now recognizing that IP addresses alone are not enough to identify a file sharer, and even throwing out cases that don't have much more in the way of evidence. Still, in most of [...] [...] recognize how that’s a problem. So it’s nice to see that an Italian court is now recognizing that IP addresses alone are not enough to identify a file sharer, and even throwing out cases that don’t have much more in the way of evidence. Still, in most of [...]

]]> By: Tribunal italiano: endereço IP não é suficiente para identificar partilhador | Remixtures http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570212 Tribunal italiano: endereço IP não é suficiente para identificar partilhador | Remixtures Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:39:24 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570212 [...] pedido apresentado inicialmente pelo Ministério Público. Segundo o site Punto Informático (via TorrentFreak), esta é a primeira vez que a Justiça italiana considera que o endereço IP de um internauta [...] [...] pedido apresentado inicialmente pelo Ministério Público. Segundo o site Punto Informático (via TorrentFreak), esta é a primeira vez que a Justiça italiana considera que o endereço IP de um internauta [...]

]]> By: MakinMo's Tech Blog http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570211 MakinMo's Tech Blog Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:14:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570211 [...] on the contrary, an IP address does not identify an infringer, only a particular connection.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/ Jun [...] [...] on the contrary, an IP address does not identify an infringer, only a particular connection.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/ Jun [...]

]]> By: Cordelia http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570201 Cordelia Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:57:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570201 @ 51 Don't give them any ideas, particularly not any ideas that would work. The thought of police knocking down your door because a torrent was downloaded from somebody using your IP address is scary. @ 51

Don’t give them any ideas, particularly not any ideas that would work.

The thought of police knocking down your door because a torrent was downloaded from somebody using your IP address is scary.

]]> By: Cordelia http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570200 Cordelia Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:52:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570200 How are they going to prove that you weren't hacked or that somebody didn't use your wireless --- if you DENY IT? How are they going to prove that you weren’t hacked or that somebody didn’t use your wireless — if you DENY IT?

]]> By: Cordelia http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570199 Cordelia Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:49:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570199 I have a a good 3 TB of material downloaded via bittorrent. I am in the UK right now and I have never recieved a complaint letter (touching wood). But all this is making me PARANOID!!! I've taken to using a Canadian proxy for my BT usage and a UK proxy for my surfing. Being a Christian woman my surfing is really innocent - no porn (obviously), nothing very political and certanly no terrorist related size. Torrents are my only vice. However the Big Brother blanket that is slowly but surely circling in on us. Corporate interests and government spooks want nothing more than your full internet history. Who knows where it will end? What about future employers or someone you fell out wity buying a profile of your internet usage...? Spam, government warnings and other threats raining over you until you can't take it anymore.... Thank goodness I am Swedish and will have the Pirate Party representing my fears in Brussels! Go PP!!! I have a a good 3 TB of material downloaded via bittorrent.

I am in the UK right now and I have never recieved a complaint letter (touching wood).

But all this is making me PARANOID!!!

I’ve taken to using a Canadian proxy for my BT usage and a UK proxy for my surfing.

Being a Christian woman my surfing is really innocent – no porn (obviously), nothing very political and certanly no terrorist related size. Torrents are my only vice.

However the Big Brother blanket that is slowly but surely circling in on us. Corporate interests and government spooks want nothing more than your full internet history.

Who knows where it will end?

What about future employers or someone you fell out wity buying a profile of your internet usage…?

Spam, government warnings and other threats raining over you until you can’t take it anymore….

Thank goodness I am Swedish and will have the Pirate Party representing my fears in Brussels! Go PP!!!

]]> By: makin257 - IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rule http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570190 makin257 - IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rule Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:45:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570190 [...] on the contrary, an IP address does not identify an infringer, only a particular connection.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/ Leave a comment Powered by LiveJournal.comAdvertisement Customize if [...] [...] on the contrary, an IP address does not identify an infringer, only a particular connection.Source:http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/ Leave a comment Powered by LiveJournal.comAdvertisement Customize if [...]

]]> By: La dirección IP es insuficiente para identificar a un Internauta « INDIGNADO http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570181 La dirección IP es insuficiente para identificar a un Internauta « INDIGNADO Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:23:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570181 [...] pueden ver la versión original  en TorrenFreak, ya que esta es una traducción via [...] [...] pueden ver la versión original  en TorrenFreak, ya que esta es una traducción via [...]

]]> By: Tech News Monday June 15, 2009 | The Contemplation http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570177 Tech News Monday June 15, 2009 | The Contemplation Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:16:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570177 [...] Gotta Love DHCP Rome court ruled that an IP address does not identify an infringer, only a particular connection. Only solution for ISP - give users assigned IP address.  (Torrent Freak . . .) [...] [...] Gotta Love DHCP Rome court ruled that an IP address does not identify an infringer, only a particular connection. Only solution for ISP – give users assigned IP address.  (Torrent Freak . . .) [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570170 Anonymous Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:06:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570170 I own a small Hotel with free Wi fi, I have no control over my guests nor keep any records I own a small Hotel with free Wi fi, I have no control over my guests nor keep any records

]]> By: Jakten på fildelere fortsetter « Plausible Fremtider : den som lever får se http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570141 Jakten på fildelere fortsetter « Plausible Fremtider : den som lever får se Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:44:14 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570141 [...] og samtidig trampe på personvernet og ytringsfriheten. I Italia har de ihvertfall skjønt at en IP-adresse ikke er det samme som en person: The District Attorney and judge said that the mere ownership of a connection from where an [...] [...] og samtidig trampe på personvernet og ytringsfriheten. I Italia har de ihvertfall skjønt at en IP-adresse ikke er det samme som en person: The District Attorney and judge said that the mere ownership of a connection from where an [...]

]]> By: Peter J. Krum's Blog http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570128 Peter J. Krum's Blog Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:03:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570128 <strong>IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules...</strong> Anti-piracy groups and lawyers across Europe are unmovable - they say that since they logged a copyright infringement from a particular IP address, the bill payer is responsible. Now a court in Rome has decided that on the contrary, an IP address does ... IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules…

Anti-piracy groups and lawyers across Europe are unmovable – they say that since they logged a copyright infringement from a particular IP address, the bill payer is responsible. Now a court in Rome has decided that on the contrary, an IP address does …

]]> By: trancefreak http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570092 trancefreak Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:34:50 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570092 To judge a person with only an IP-adress as evidence i wrong. Often there are several persons using the same connection. Here's an example. "a man gets hit by a car, when he lies on the ground, badly injured, he manage to write down the number on the cars license plate. Then he can hold the owner of this car responsible for the accident, and sue him or report him to the police. But now the police will investigate WHO drove the car, not just hold the owner responsible" see where i'm going?, You just see the internet as the car, and there a is big chance that it maybe wasn't the owner who drove!, maybe it was the owners spouse or son? or maybe the car was stolen just a few minutes before the accident! That you can be held responsible for a crime just because it was commited through a cable you pay for i rediculous! This shitty outlook on "law" just proves that the whole system is gettin manipulated by the industri! i sickens my! To judge a person with only an IP-adress as evidence i wrong.
Often there are several persons using the same connection.

Here’s an example.

“a man gets hit by a car, when he lies on the ground, badly injured, he manage to write down the number on the cars license plate. Then he can hold the owner of this car responsible for the accident, and sue him or report him to the police. But now the police will investigate WHO drove the car, not just hold the owner responsible”

see where i’m going?, You just see the internet as the car, and there a is big chance that it maybe wasn’t the owner who drove!, maybe it was the owners spouse or son? or maybe the car was stolen just a few minutes before the accident!

That you can be held responsible for a crime just because it was commited through a cable you pay for i rediculous!
This shitty outlook on “law” just proves that the whole system is gettin manipulated by the industri!

i sickens my!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570089 Anonymous Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:16:01 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570089 There is also a possibility someone downloaded data on your computer through a trojan. But if someone wants to stay stealthy on the net he can always use IP filters and anonymous proxy's to avoid being identified. In that case it would take a lot of resources to get to the guy. There is also a possibility someone downloaded data on your computer through a trojan.
But if someone wants to stay stealthy on the net he can always use IP filters and anonymous proxy’s to avoid being identified. In that case it would take a lot of resources to get to the guy.

]]> By: Dario Salvelli’s Blog » Blog Archive » IP: Ignoto Pirata http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570067 Dario Salvelli’s Blog » Blog Archive » IP: Ignoto Pirata Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:27:16 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570067 [...] Ignoto Pirata // Anche Torrentfeak, ormai una bibbia del peer to peer e dei diritti digitali, segnala l’articolo di Punto [...] [...] Ignoto Pirata // Anche Torrentfeak, ormai una bibbia del peer to peer e dei diritti digitali, segnala l’articolo di Punto [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-570042 Anonymous Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:57:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-570042 Italy wins over France. Problem is that there should be common law within the EU. Also, this will just lead to new lobby for a law that explicitly does make the customer, to whom the IP address belongs, responsible - no matter who actually dun it! Italy wins over France. Problem is that there should be common law within the EU. Also, this will just lead to new lobby for a law that explicitly does make the customer, to whom the IP address belongs, responsible – no matter who actually dun it!

]]> By: IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rule « Netcrema - creme de la social news via digg + delicious + stumpleupon + reddit http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569996 IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rule « Netcrema - creme de la social news via digg + delicious + stumpleupon + reddit Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:06:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569996 [...] IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Ruletorrentfreak.com [...] [...] IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Ruletorrentfreak.com [...]

]]> By: born again pagan http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569964 born again pagan Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:52:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569964 @ 46 reasoned neostyles "Uhm, did I miss something?" Boy, I'll say you have... "Isn't an IP adress a way of identifying a computer?" Perhaps "a computer," though not necessarily the end user... "Provided you can link that IP adress to certain connections/downloads, what more evidence could you possibly expect to prove beyond a doubt that someone is a pirate?" You're (purposely?) missing the entire point ... what evidence exists regarding the actual user? What if Lars Ulrich breaks into my house while I'm in church ... and he decides to download some steamy transsexual porn? Just because he's playing with my computer (among other things) while I'm busy praising Jesus, you can't hold ME responsible for his actions. Amen! @ 46 reasoned neostyles

“Uhm, did I miss something?”

Boy, I’ll say you have…

“Isn’t an IP adress a way of identifying a computer?”

Perhaps “a computer,” though not necessarily the end user…

“Provided you can link that IP adress to certain connections/downloads, what more evidence could you possibly expect to prove beyond a doubt that someone is a pirate?”

You’re (purposely?) missing the entire point … what evidence exists regarding the actual user? What if Lars Ulrich breaks into my house while I’m in church … and he decides to download some steamy transsexual porn? Just because he’s playing with my computer (among other things) while I’m busy praising Jesus, you can’t hold ME responsible for his actions. Amen!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569960 Anonymous Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:46:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569960 What I dont understand is how the authorities can get involved in a civil investigation. How can the RIAA tell the local police to seize your property on such a flimsy basis? What I dont understand is how the authorities can get involved in a civil investigation. How can the RIAA tell the local police to seize your property on such a flimsy basis?

]]> By: Visca http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569953 Visca Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:20:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569953 @neostyles an IP, on internet, identify a ROUTER, and differents computers can connect to internet throug this (especially if the router has wifi) @neostyles an IP, on internet, identify a ROUTER, and differents computers can connect to internet throug this (especially if the router has wifi)

]]> By: fulllovegirl http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569947 fulllovegirl Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:47:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569947 H-O-T Dating Networking Site __S e e k B i C o m___ helps you find your ideal lover H-O-T Dating Networking Site __S e e k B i C o m___ helps you find your ideal lover

]]> By: HBO’s Bill Maher Takes On President Obama | Fundawn News http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569944 HBO’s Bill Maher Takes On President Obama | Fundawn News Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:39:51 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569944 [...] IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules … [...] [...] IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules … [...]

]]> By: curious http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569943 curious Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:37:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569943 The IP address should at very least warrant credentials for a warrant. (ya I said it) The warrant should include search and seizure of computers found at said location of IP address in question. If copyrighted material is found on that computer, the owner is, in fact, responsible. No matter who actually hit the download button. The IP address should at very least warrant credentials for a warrant. (ya I said it) The warrant should include search and seizure of computers found at said location of IP address in question. If copyrighted material is found on that computer, the owner is, in fact, responsible. No matter who actually hit the download button.

]]> By: neostyles http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569930 neostyles Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:36:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569930 Uhm, did I miss something? Isn't an IP adress a way of identifying a computer? Provided you can link that IP adress to certain connections/downloads, what more evidence could you possibly expect to prove beyond a doubt that someone is a pirate? Uhm, did I miss something? Isn’t an IP adress a way of identifying a computer? Provided you can link that IP adress to certain connections/downloads, what more evidence could you possibly expect to prove beyond a doubt that someone is a pirate?

]]> By: dairRIAA http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569913 dairRIAA Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:31:29 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569913 If you own a gun and do your absolute best to lock it up and keep it safe from others, and if someone decides they want access to the gun, gets their hands on it and commits a crime with it; you are not guilty of any crime. But in the eyes of the RIAA/MPAA, you're supposed to be GUILTY without any proof whatsoever. If you own a gun and do your absolute best to lock it up and keep it safe from others, and if someone decides they want access to the gun, gets their hands on it and commits a crime with it; you are not guilty of any crime.

But in the eyes of the RIAA/MPAA, you’re supposed to be GUILTY without any proof whatsoever.

]]> By: IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules | AntiMatter's Blog http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569910 IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules | AntiMatter's Blog Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:24:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569910 [...] from: TorrentFreak Category: File-Sharing You can follow any responses to this entry via RSS. You can leave a [...] [...] from: TorrentFreak Category: File-Sharing You can follow any responses to this entry via RSS. You can leave a [...]

]]> By: Tosh http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569904 Tosh Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:06:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569904 There is no need to secure ones hard drive, this is a civil case with dl/acs there is no way they can get access to ones hard drive There is no need to secure ones hard drive, this is a civil case with dl/acs there is no way they can get access to ones hard drive

]]> By: Lune http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569900 Lune Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:01:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569900 Oh and the UK side of things really, really blows, you are legally obliged to provide keys to decrypt encrypted data, failure to do so gains you 2years of jail time.... So anyone with a really good reason to encrypt stuff is just going to take the 2years and laugh... o_O Oh and the UK side of things really, really blows, you are legally obliged to provide keys to decrypt encrypted data, failure to do so gains you 2years of jail time…. So anyone with a really good reason to encrypt stuff is just going to take the 2years and laugh… o_O

]]> By: Lune http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569899 Lune Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:59:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569899 Anyone saying that in the US you can take the fifth and avoid incriminating yourself is wrong, it was tested in court in march of this year and the guy was ordered to decrypt the drive. Here is one reference to it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/03/encryption_password_ruling/ Anyone saying that in the US you can take the fifth and avoid incriminating yourself is wrong, it was tested in court in march of this year and the guy was ordered to decrypt the drive.

Here is one reference to it:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/03/encryption_password_ruling/

]]> By: IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules!!! - ABA DSS - Free to Air Satellite TV Community http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569857 IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules!!! - ABA DSS - Free to Air Satellite TV Community Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:19:48 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569857 [...] infringer?s PC - it means little on its own. Thank you Italy for your common sense. Source: IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules | TorrentFreak __________________ Testing: KBOX K1 Plus with KHUB, Neosat iPro2000+, Conaxsat Mini. Probably [...] [...] infringer?s PC – it means little on its own. Thank you Italy for your common sense. Source: IP Address Alone Insufficient To Identify Pirate, Court Rules | TorrentFreak __________________ Testing: KBOX K1 Plus with KHUB, Neosat iPro2000+, Conaxsat Mini. Probably [...]

]]> By: Court: IP Address Alone Can Not Identify Pirate | BestTechie.net http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569848 Court: IP Address Alone Can Not Identify Pirate | BestTechie.net Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:41:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569848 [...] things may be changing.  According to TorrentFreak, anti-piracy lawyers “say that since they logged a copyright infringement from a particular IP [...] [...] things may be changing.  According to TorrentFreak, anti-piracy lawyers “say that since they logged a copyright infringement from a particular IP [...]

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]]> By: Fausty | torrentfreedom.net http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569845 Fausty | torrentfreedom.net Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:22:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569845 @Anonymous: you can't be sent to jail, in the USA, for refusal to turn over an encryption password/passkey - it's classified under self incrimination, i.e the 5th Amendment. The only open legal question relating to passkeys is whether border agents can demand a machine be decrypted before allowing a citizen back into the country - that issue is in front of several appelate courts. The UK "anti-encryption" law is a horse of a different color - through the UK doesn't have a 5th Amendment (but they do have a queen). Fausty | www.cultureghost.org @Anonymous: you can’t be sent to jail, in the USA, for refusal to turn over an encryption password/passkey – it’s classified under self incrimination, i.e the 5th Amendment. The only open legal question relating to passkeys is whether border agents can demand a machine be decrypted before allowing a citizen back into the country – that issue is in front of several appelate courts.

The UK “anti-encryption” law is a horse of a different color – through the UK doesn’t have a 5th Amendment (but they do have a queen).

Fausty | http://www.cultureghost.org

]]> By: meneame.net http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569840 meneame.net Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:12:18 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569840 <strong>Italia: Una dirección IP no es suficiente para identificar a un "pirata" [eng]...</strong> "Los grupos y abogados anti-piratería de toda Europa son inamovibles - dicen que si han detectado una infracción de copyright desde una dirección IP particular, el titular de la linea es responsable. Ahora un juzgado de Roma ha decidido que una... Italia: Una dirección IP no es suficiente para identificar a un "pirata" [eng]…

"Los grupos y abogados anti-piratería de toda Europa son inamovibles – dicen que si han detectado una infracción de copyright desde una dirección IP particular, el titular de la linea es responsable. Ahora un juzgado de Roma ha decidido que una…

]]> By: taffer http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569839 taffer Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:03:19 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569839 Thank you, rickatnight11. Thank you, rickatnight11.

]]> By: rickatnight11 http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569837 rickatnight11 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:01:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569837 @taffer You can checksum the file. Every torrent has enough meta-data about the files being shared, which is how your client is able to ensure that the file you downloaded is the file that was shared. This is also how you are able to resume downloads, download various parts of the file from various sources, and also seed a file you downloaded elsewhere. This system of checksums ensures that anyone connecting to the tracker via a particular torrent is sharing the EXACT same file. By providing the logs of downloading the file from an IP and the checksum of the file, you have proven that the file originated from the source IP and contains the exact same data. @taffer
You can checksum the file. Every torrent has enough meta-data about the files being shared, which is how your client is able to ensure that the file you downloaded is the file that was shared. This is also how you are able to resume downloads, download various parts of the file from various sources, and also seed a file you downloaded elsewhere. This system of checksums ensures that anyone connecting to the tracker via a particular torrent is sharing the EXACT same file.

By providing the logs of downloading the file from an IP and the checksum of the file, you have proven that the file originated from the source IP and contains the exact same data.

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]]> By: taffer http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569827 taffer Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:42:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569827 Yes, you can do that or you can claim to have done that. My point is, how can you prove to a third party that the file you present is a file you have downloaded from that computer? You can show logs of the connection to that IP, but how do I know the file you come up with is not just copied from your own hdd? Yes, you can do that or you can claim to have done that. My point is, how can you prove to a third party that the file you present is a file you have downloaded from that computer? You can show logs of the connection to that IP, but how do I know the file you come up with is not just copied from your own hdd?

]]> By: greylion http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569825 greylion Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:39:47 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569825 @ #7 and #9: What if you've lost the encryption key? If I had it on a USB-stick, and my dog chewed it to bits (no pun intended), then it's gone, there's no way to decrypt. If you can be sentenced for that, it's another example of 'guilty until proven innocent'. @ #7 and #9:
What if you’ve lost the encryption key?
If I had it on a USB-stick, and my dog chewed it to bits (no pun intended), then it’s gone, there’s no way to decrypt.

If you can be sentenced for that, it’s another example of ‘guilty until proven innocent’.

]]> By: rickatnight11 http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569824 rickatnight11 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:37:46 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569824 You've already stated that the IP links to one person and one person only. If a file was "shared" from that computer in full (which can be recorded from publicly accessible information on the tracker) then that computer has shared the file. To view it from another side, if I connect to a tracker, pull your information as the only seed, and download the entire file from you, then you had the file at one point. You’ve already stated that the IP links to one person and one person only. If a file was “shared” from that computer in full (which can be recorded from publicly accessible information on the tracker) then that computer has shared the file.

To view it from another side, if I connect to a tracker, pull your information as the only seed, and download the entire file from you, then you had the file at one point.

]]> By: taffer http://torrentfreak.com/court-rules-that-ip-address-alone-insufficient-to-identify-infringer-090615/#comment-569818 taffer Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:22:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=14243#comment-569818 What if it's formatted by then? What if it’s formatted by then?

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