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Some people like to laugh at the factual inconsistencies in books. I do that, for one.

1) Brown RIPPED the concept from a British book called “Holy Blood, Holy Grail” – Plagiarism.

2) His litterary style is mediocre at best.

3) The “religious” claims in his books are ignorant nonsense and only somebody with serious gaps in their general knowledge would enjoy reading his books.

If you MUST read this book, do NOT under any circumstances pay a penny for it!!! Personally I wouldn’t read it even if he paid me.

“We’ve got a five-tier level of defense,” Jabba explained. “A primary Bastion Host, two sets of packet filters for FTP and X-eleven, a tunnel block, and finally a PEM-based authorization window right off the Truffle project. The outside shield that’s disappearing represents the exposed host. It’s practically gone. Within the hour, all five shields will follow. After that, the world pours in. Every byte of NSA data becomes public domain.”

A bastion host definitely exists. FTP exists, but packet filters for X-eleven…? X-eleven (X11) is a window system…
A tunnel block is just something that blocks a tunnel, so would probably just be another bastion host somewhere along the tunnel. But don’t take my word for it, I know nothing.
PEM = privacy-enhanced e-mail, but I’ve never heard of an authorization window for PEM. Perhaps they mean “an authorization module”? And WTF at “the Truffle project”, you’re right.

And shouldn’t NSA data, being from a government agency, be public domain anyway? Even if it’s not released to the public at all.

I guess people will believe something if it’s complicated enough.

Two, the fact that publishing companies take so much revenue for themselves is part of the reason why people share (not “pirate”) books. People would be a lot happier if the majority of the money went to the authors, or artists, instead of to the publishing companies or record labels.

Well, gee, if the artists only get paid a tiny portion when people DO pay for their work, how much do you think they get paid when they succumb to entitlement and pirate it? None? Are you trying to tell me that people are pirating books like this because they think is somehow helps the author?

Answer this : How can you condone taking something without paying for it?

Should we also close down public libraries because the author doesn’t get paid when I check out a book?

Libraries get permission from the publisher. Nice try though.

I imagine this is largely because publishers take so much of the revenue for themselves.

Still, the fact remains that success is now depandant on the circumstances. If the person happens to have other sources of income, they will be fine, but if they have chosen to devote all their time to their passion, they run a very high risk of not making it.

Piracy deprives people of the opportunity to rightly profit from their own work. Who exactly are you to tell them how much money they should be earning?

Which is good- except that I imagine that a good chunk of your money isn’t going where you want it to. (Unless you like paying the publishing companies.)

Im pretty sure artists are aware of the downsides of publishing arrangements before they commit themselves to one. Look, it’s not up to you to “save” the author by not paying for any of their work. If you do pay for it, you will be atleast supporting them for that one copy you bought. It’s very simple from a moral standpoint.

This is certainly true, but would you bet that if publishing companies had their way they’d eliminate libraries in a heartbeat? If you think about it from their point of view, libraries are huge sources of “lost sales.” After all (if we think like, say, the RIAA), if you hadn’t borrowed that book, you most certainly would have rightfully purchased it! Libraries should therefore be sued and made to pay for each checkout.

Nice try again. Aside from the fact, that you have nothing but a hypothetical situation with no hard fact to boot.. Pirating something via torrents is not the same as borring a book. When you pirate, you have unlimited access to it. When you borrow a book, you are agreeing to a set of rules that govern how you use it. Usually you can’t keep it forever and you have to return it in good condition. Oh, and you aren’t garunteed to find an available copy. It might already be checked out.

If what you were saying were true, and libraries were harming things, then im sure they wouldn’t be around anymore. Most of this situation is self explanatory.

Lost Symbol, with its million copies sold already, proves for once and for all that pirated copies do not hurt sales.

Logic fail. Just becacuse it sold a lot, how do you know it wouldn’t have sold MORE? What makes you think that piracy caused improved sales? Clearly, any one who pirated it is interested in the book, and I think that it’s arguably clear that a fair portion of them would have bought it.

Dan Brown FTW!

Lost Symbol, with its million copies sold already, proves for once and for all that pirated copies do not hurt sales.

I have an e-copy myself, and I shared it with a couple of friends. They are going to buy the hard copies now BECAUSE after reading a few chapters they got interested and want to have hard copies. So, thank me Mr. Brown for another 60 bucks you are about to make!

Well jokes apart, it proves my point. Hope authors will be more open-minded in the future.

And in the words of Salman Rushdie:

“Dan Brown isn’t a writer, he’s a typewriter.”

as Demonoid is down, and it happaened that this is the only site that i’m aware of where i can download Audiobooks. is there any other website where Audiobooks are available?

thanks in advance

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Lots of whining thieves will be left. Anonymous thieves.

I read the e-book first and then order the real thing, and then, read it again. It’s a natural thing to do.

With Love, 9fc33b8a9ffde1133222ac46068fe2e1

http://books.google.ca/books?id=rhNZPgAACAAJ&dq=The+Lost+Symbol&lr=&as_brr=0&source=gbs_book_other_versions_r&cad=2

“We’ve got a five-tier level of defense,” Jabba explained. “A primary Bastion Host, two sets of packet filters for FTP and X-eleven, a tunnel block, and finally a PEM-based authorization window right off the Truffle project. The outside shield that’s disappearing represents the exposed host. It’s practically gone. Within the hour, all five shields will follow. After that, the world pours in. Every byte of NSA data becomes public domain.”

You can almost see him googling “computer security” and picking words at random to construct his ridiculous fucking plots. “Truffle project”? Since he’s just making shit up now, he might as well have used “SSH Squirrel Matrix”. Fucking tool.

“A person who does not share is not only selfish, but bitter and alone,”

In your face, anti-piracy a-holes

“Never heard of this loser.”

Maybe if you got out of Mommy’s basement once in a while…..

I think it was only released yesterday(in book shops in the U.S.) and they had armed guards couldnt stop it getting on BT sites

Whoever released this can type fast! =P

sure, but not about dan brown or his cut-and-paste books for retards. i just like piracy.

So you do care some?

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If you don’t like it, don’t come here. Better yet, if you don’t like it, make your own p2p blog and surpass TF in quality.

Might read a few pages from the ebook.

Thanks for the information!

You’re making a mistake in making your target audience 13 year old kids who whack off to bittorrent statistics.

Time for some new management, I say.

Many writers still have other jobs that brings in money other than their published works because just book sales do not always bring enough in.

I imagine this is largely because publishers take so much of the revenue for themselves.

Writers and publishes make money on the books sales so I buy books from people I like to support them.

Which is good- except that I imagine that a good chunk of your money isn’t going where you want it to. (Unless you like paying the publishing companies.)

And libraries pay for their books so borrowing a book in not the same as downloading it. Even if the book was donated to the library it was bought at one point so the writer has the money from that copy.

This is certainly true, but would you bet that if publishing companies had their way they’d eliminate libraries in a heartbeat? If you think about it from their point of view, libraries are huge sources of “lost sales.” After all (if we think like, say, the RIAA), if you hadn’t borrowed that book, you most certainly would have rightfully purchased it! Libraries should therefore be sued and made to pay for each checkout.

It’s totally insane thinking, I know. But this is the sort of thing that pro-copyright groups would force on us.

…yes, I just went off-topic to preach that. Don’t judge me! ;-;

Anyway.

I suppose my point is, if libraries were charged, for each book, a number of dollars determined by how much the publishing company thought each book would be checked out (and therefore, how many “lost sales” would occur), our libraries would have a few handfuls of books and that’s it.