Comments on: Danish File-Sharers Not Responsible For Wi-Fi Theft

By: web

web — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:52:02 +0000

There should be a law that protects artists from losing income due to piracy. Therefore we would like to have the Supreme Court deal with the issue.

By: Quasit

Quasit — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:13:56 +0000

I agree that “wifi defense” isn’t only usable by people who know little about computers.

I guess if “wifi defense” becomes very common and accepted defense by the courts, it might get easier to get search warrant.
Then you might get caught for more that the stuff they saw you share.

Burnt DVDs, hundreds GB of data and so on.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 03:55:27 +0000

i shall open up my wireless to the locals and let them download whatever they like…..
themore the merrier

By: Nick

Nick — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:30:41 +0000

I don’t agree that you can only play the wi-fi defence if you can claim ignorance to the technology

Why can’t I just have open wi-fi if it’s not against my ISPs terms and conditions? That’s my perogative, surely?

Until a court says; “actually, intentionally leaving your WI-FI open is negligent, and you are responsible”, then that defence stands. Is it illegal to leave your car door open all day long with the keys inside? of course not

By: Norm

Norm — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 16:11:31 +0000

@30 – I think the idea behind the defense is that even closed wifi is possible to hack open. For instance, if the password is set to the default, or something easily guessed.

By: Monker

Monker — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:45:27 +0000

It would be great if someone could hack Torben Steffensen wifi router and do lots of uploading knowing that MPIAA etc would be looking for thwese files and thenTorben Steffensen, would have to go to prision. Like he said “it’s the owners of the wifi that must be responsible”

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:00:39 +0000

As much as I like to see us win against MAFIAA, the “wi-fi defence” is not good enough. It doesn’t sound logical. The only way one CAN use “wifi defence” is if they do not actually KNOW the difference between open and closed access over wi-fi. Thus if someone wins a case because they didn’t actually know that difference – good for them, but it doesn’t apply to you and me, because we actually know that someone might abuse the connection for “illegal” purposes (mind that I’m taking “illegal” as the current situation – which is exactly the part that we need to battle – filesharing should NOT be “illegal”).

Think of “wi-fi defence” as something like you being the last to leave the office and NOT setting the alarm on. It IS your fault if someone breaks in and steals everything from said office.

By: Barse

Barse — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:25:27 +0000

Courts don’t find people innocent. They find people not guilty.

By: oic

oic — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:43:26 +0000

@23…someone paid for bandwidth and someone else took it and now the buyer is getting less than he paid for. The wifi ‘thiefs’ didnt take a copy of the bandwidth, they took the actual bandwidth. If the victims paid by the megabyte my point would be much easier to understand

By: WiFiOverMaster

WiFiOverMaster — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:55:49 +0000

Fuck the Law

By: no no one get wifi

no no one get wifi — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:07:36 +0000

no no no one get wifi

By: yes everyone get wifi

yes everyone get wifi — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:44:07 +0000

yes yes everyone get wifi

By: lmao

lmao — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:10:54 +0000

@ 20

lmao :) terrible … ! lol !

Kids Ball parks have nice open wifi ;)

By: 8

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:27:16 +0000

“At 8: call it what u like, its a defence whichever way u approach it!! Theft is ok but unauthorised access might be better. Shame it doesnt make a good title :(”

yes, theft sounds better in a title but it isn’t accurately describing what is happening.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:28:46 +0000

At 8: call it what u like, its a defence whichever way u approach it!! Theft is ok but unauthorised access might be better. Shame it doesnt make a good title :(

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 13:17:55 +0000

ROFL take that up your fucking ass IFPI!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:24:03 +0000

https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4335897/

By: i'd just like.....

i'd just like..... — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:45:17 +0000

if someone would like to check this post’s ip address, i am currently ‘stealing wifi’, the network is called TalkTalk520 and i’m doing all sorts of illegal shit on it. Who is responsible? Me!! Of course???!!

By: cc

cc — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:11:52 +0000

this prove that even company like mediasentry couldn’t prove that which machine is actually doing filesharing

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:57:18 +0000

@7: wifi-transpassing? :9

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:36:54 +0000

Great info, I might just open up my wifi :)

BTW, Demonoid has opened registrations, get an account while you can…

By: Blur

Blur — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:17:29 +0000

Great now if RIAA comes knocking on my door I can just claim someone else was stealing my WiFi…

By: Baloo2

Baloo2 — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 10:13:16 +0000

Lets hope that this verdict proves that all of us that have any kind of WiFi AP simply *must* make it totally open with no WAP restrictions or other shitty stuff whatsoever.

Totally open WiFi is indeed the civil disobedience that we all have to adhere to if we eventually want to be able to make that blasted **AA monster go away!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:43:06 +0000

from TFA: The photographs of the dead children are part of a large collection of material from the police’s investigation of the case which can now be found on the site, reports TV4.
—

change of tactic by sweden autorithies? looks to me they uploaded the stuff by themselves and then warned the father about it… So now Peter Sunde can be pictured as a necrophile or something, now we are talking!

By: nil80

nil80 — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:29:33 +0000

@ no4, i couldn’t of put it better myself!

By: Mikle

Mikle — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:51:23 +0000

“… $152,000 and $160,000 respectively.”

This i wrong. It is Danish KR and NOT $.

So it will be around $30,000 and $32,000

Hope you will edit the article ;)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:16:35 +0000

http://digg.com/tech_news/Pirate_Bay_refuses_to_remove_autopsy_pics_of_dead_kids

lael

By: indeed

indeed — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 08:05:21 +0000

QUOTE: “We do not believe that this law is appropriate and we disagree with this decision,” he said. “There should be a law that protects artists from losing income due to piracy…”

Correct, we do need laws to protect artists, as well as consumers, from the greedy people who run the MAFIAA using piracy as an excuse to rip everyone off.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:55:14 +0000

Calling it “Wi-Fi theft” isn’t very accurate. Nothing has been taken away. Any ideas on a better term?

By: lmao

lmao — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:23:29 +0000

wifi 4 the epic win !!!!!!

Shove that UP ya asses MPAA/RIAA.

Hey davenport i opened my wifi to let sum 1 else use it, then locked it back down & changed my MAC address on the LAN!

Still wanna go to court ? i`ll see u there :)

BTW i kept the sniffer logs of sum 1 else using it ;)

Epic fail davenport, lets see who`s better technically !

By: John

John — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:05:14 +0000

“There should be a law that protects artists from losing income due to piracy”

There IS a law in Denmark doing just that. You MAFIAA ass-tunnelers just failed to prove that the law was broken by the people you claim .
Now why don’t you lawyer-weasels go get a real job where you produce something useful ?

By: www.eZee.se

www.eZee.se — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 07:03:49 +0000

Yeah c#cksuckers! Choke on that!!!

These women are heroes! Nice job of kicking them in the nuts ladies!

By: TehStalker

TehStalker — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:23:42 +0000

“an Internet subscriber is responsible for what others do on their connection”

BS, If someone steals my car, drive like a maniac and kills someone, would that be my fault!?

By: #YLS#

#YLS# — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:02:26 +0000

Admitantly this is nessecary… I managed to crack a wifi point recently and it takes zero effort if there’s wep encryption.

People are ignorant to computers in general, which basically makes it sueing people for there ignorance as they won’t keep up to date on whos breaking into their network.

By: SJ

SJ — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:57:39 +0000

Even the music and movie industry have to bow before the law.

By: Just Me!

Just Me! — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:49:10 +0000

Yeah!!!