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		<title>By: pious</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-444294</link>
		<dc:creator>pious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: boot2ben</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-440597</link>
		<dc:creator>boot2ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reverse</description>
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		<title>By: oneplusone</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-439871</link>
		<dc:creator>oneplusone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS The real threat to the establishment isn&#039;t copying their crap artists, it&#039;s the future of limitless competition to those crap artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS The real threat to the establishment isn&#8217;t copying their crap artists, it&#8217;s the future of limitless competition to those crap artists.</p>
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		<title>By: oneplusone</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-439870</link>
		<dc:creator>oneplusone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;  22 Jun 30, 2008 at 00:52 by M

    I don&#039;t use BT myself, and this is not about BT whether legal or illegal. This is all about some 3rd party having more info on you than the government is able to obtain under a court order from a judge, who has to agree with the government before the data can be harvested. This collects 100% of what you do and where you go online. After a few days BT and Phorm will be storing things that you have forgotten about. Are you a number (UID) or a private individual. Your choice.
&quot;


DINGDINGDING! The correct answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8221;  22 Jun 30, 2008 at 00:52 by M</p>
<p>    I don&#8217;t use BT myself, and this is not about BT whether legal or illegal. This is all about some 3rd party having more info on you than the government is able to obtain under a court order from a judge, who has to agree with the government before the data can be harvested. This collects 100% of what you do and where you go online. After a few days BT and Phorm will be storing things that you have forgotten about. Are you a number (UID) or a private individual. Your choice.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>DINGDINGDING! The correct answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Spot on</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-437224</link>
		<dc:creator>Spot on</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 07:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great commentary about this incideous attempt to commercialise my private communications.

I am not for sale to the highest bidder and BT, Virgin and Carphone Warehouse can sod right off.

If anyone reading this does not undertstand why this is so wrong just spend 30 mins reading about the subject (Phorm, Webwise and Kent Ertugrul, Spyware &amp; Adware)

Then sign the Downing Street petition on the web and if you can get to London on JUly 16th, make sure your voice and objection is seen and heard.

Totally wrong.

No Phorm.  No Webwise.

STOP. NOW. DO NOT WANT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great commentary about this incideous attempt to commercialise my private communications.</p>
<p>I am not for sale to the highest bidder and BT, Virgin and Carphone Warehouse can sod right off.</p>
<p>If anyone reading this does not undertstand why this is so wrong just spend 30 mins reading about the subject (Phorm, Webwise and Kent Ertugrul, Spyware &amp; Adware)</p>
<p>Then sign the Downing Street petition on the web and if you can get to London on JUly 16th, make sure your voice and objection is seen and heard.</p>
<p>Totally wrong.</p>
<p>No Phorm.  No Webwise.</p>
<p>STOP. NOW. DO NOT WANT.</p>
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		<title>By: blah</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-437063</link>
		<dc:creator>blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if future ISP contracts will come with a disclaimer, &quot;your activity may be monitored for marketing purposes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if future ISP contracts will come with a disclaimer, &#8220;your activity may be monitored for marketing purposes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MORPHEUS9000</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-437012</link>
		<dc:creator>MORPHEUS9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@54 

1)- IT&#039;S NOT A TROJAN !!!!!

2)- YOU&#039;RE A SCAMMER

3)- I&#039;M PROUD TO BAN ALL RUSSIAN
    IP&#039;S FULL OF BULLSHIT REAL TROJANS/SCAMMERS/PHISHING/HIJACKERS AN WHATEVER USELESS AND DANGEROUS.

4)- I SUGGEST TO THIS EXELLENT BLOG TORRENTFREAK TO BAN GUYS THAT DON&#039;T KNOW ABOUT THEY&#039;RE TALKING ABOUT.

5)- OFFSYSTEM IT&#039;S A ANONYMOUS FILE DATA SHARING SYSTEM

6)- FOR THOSE THAT ARE POINTING THAT THE PROGRAM IT&#039;S A TROJAN OR SOMEWHAT:
I SUGGEST TO, AFTER DOWNLOAD,:

A)- TEST WITH 

http://www.virustotal.com

B)- READ CAREFULLY WHAT CONTAINED
    IN THE PAGES  OF THE HOMEPAGE

http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/

C)- START TINKING.


D)- ANY SUGGESTION IS EVERY TIME 
    WELCOME TO THE P2P WORLDWIDE COMMUNITY.

CHEERS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@54 </p>
<p>1)- IT&#8217;S NOT A TROJAN !!!!!</p>
<p>2)- YOU&#8217;RE A SCAMMER</p>
<p>3)- I&#8217;M PROUD TO BAN ALL RUSSIAN<br />
    IP&#8217;S FULL OF BULLSHIT REAL TROJANS/SCAMMERS/PHISHING/HIJACKERS AN WHATEVER USELESS AND DANGEROUS.</p>
<p>4)- I SUGGEST TO THIS EXELLENT BLOG TORRENTFREAK TO BAN GUYS THAT DON&#8217;T KNOW ABOUT THEY&#8217;RE TALKING ABOUT.</p>
<p>5)- OFFSYSTEM IT&#8217;S A ANONYMOUS FILE DATA SHARING SYSTEM</p>
<p>6)- FOR THOSE THAT ARE POINTING THAT THE PROGRAM IT&#8217;S A TROJAN OR SOMEWHAT:<br />
I SUGGEST TO, AFTER DOWNLOAD,:</p>
<p>A)- TEST WITH </p>
<p><a href="http://www.virustotal.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.virustotal.com</a></p>
<p>B)- READ CAREFULLY WHAT CONTAINED<br />
    IN THE PAGES  OF THE HOMEPAGE</p>
<p><a href="http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://offsystem.sourceforge.net/</a></p>
<p>C)- START TINKING.</p>
<p>D)- ANY SUGGESTION IS EVERY TIME<br />
    WELCOME TO THE P2P WORLDWIDE COMMUNITY.</p>
<p>CHEERS.</p>
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		<title>By: #YLS#</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436957</link>
		<dc:creator>#YLS#</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 57 - Matt

Well what do you want, stoner talk?

&quot;Well there&#039;s like these guys and they want to take other guys to erm... this thing called a court and these guys are like a total load of douche bags, duuuuude...&quot;

Look this is still a site for journalism on technology and law relating to p2p. Maybe if your to stupid you should ask Ben Jones if he&#039;ll make a &#039;For Dummies&#039; version for you to read!

P.S. not taking the p*ss out of stoners, I was one for a time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 57 &#8211; Matt</p>
<p>Well what do you want, stoner talk?</p>
<p>&#8220;Well there&#8217;s like these guys and they want to take other guys to erm&#8230; this thing called a court and these guys are like a total load of douche bags, duuuuude&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Look this is still a site for journalism on technology and law relating to p2p. Maybe if your to stupid you should ask Ben Jones if he&#8217;ll make a &#8216;For Dummies&#8217; version for you to read!</p>
<p>P.S. not taking the p*ss out of stoners, I was one for a time</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436912</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 01:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow... &quot;he Internet is a world penitentially embroiled in a Cold War.&quot;... like really? Put the thesaurus away douche bag. You may wanna check the definitions of those words you look up to see if you still make sense within the context you are aiming for.. then you won&#039;t sound like a pompass bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230; &#8220;he Internet is a world penitentially embroiled in a Cold War.&#8221;&#8230; like really? Put the thesaurus away douche bag. You may wanna check the definitions of those words you look up to see if you still make sense within the context you are aiming for.. then you won&#8217;t sound like a pompass bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: John Jones</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436736</link>
		<dc:creator>John Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Online Privacy Services totally Rock. Personally, I like Ultimate Anonymity http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online Privacy Services totally Rock. Personally, I like Ultimate Anonymity <a href="http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: &#124;)0n7eX</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436698</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124;)0n7eX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you want privacy and freedom to roam the internet! you want to secure the internet? http://www.torproject.org/ keep hidden, browser free.  if they are gonna try to monitor me they got another thing comming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you want privacy and freedom to roam the internet! you want to secure the internet? <a href="http://www.torproject.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.torproject.org/</a> keep hidden, browser free.  if they are gonna try to monitor me they got another thing comming</p>
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		<title>By: Ð’Ð¿Ð¾Ð¶Ð°Ð»Ð¾Ð²Ð°Ñ‚ÑŒ</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436643</link>
		<dc:creator>Ð’Ð¿Ð¾Ð¶Ð°Ð»Ð¾Ð²Ð°Ñ‚ÑŒ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@40, remove that trojan link, f4g.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@40, remove that trojan link, f4g.</p>
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		<title>By: Pec</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436541</link>
		<dc:creator>Pec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over the past few years I have taken quite a few different classes from various programs sponsored by different vendors which have to do with traffic shaping and filtering.

One thing that all these classes, their instructors, and the textbooks all had in common was the amount of information about being righteous and always doing the right thing, never to violate peoples rights, or the law,etc. 

This kind of technology was invented to protect a companies private networks, and should never be used on the public Internet, not in a free country anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past few years I have taken quite a few different classes from various programs sponsored by different vendors which have to do with traffic shaping and filtering.</p>
<p>One thing that all these classes, their instructors, and the textbooks all had in common was the amount of information about being righteous and always doing the right thing, never to violate peoples rights, or the law,etc. </p>
<p>This kind of technology was invented to protect a companies private networks, and should never be used on the public Internet, not in a free country anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spanky69</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436471</link>
		<dc:creator>Spanky69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it&#039;s worth, I&#039;ll be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, I&#8217;ll be there.</p>
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		<title>By: GateCrasher</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436456</link>
		<dc:creator>GateCrasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, you realize that with every new technology/program that gets rolled out to protect big companies from copyright infringment, there is always people who can make work arounds.  Its not that big of a deal... we will have to wait about 3 days before some big brains figure out how to block that.

Microsoft has been worried about people downloading their software and validating it since the begining of torrenting.  The thing is... its been what 25 years so far and they have had 3-5 OSs release since then and they still cant stop people getting Vista.  This just goes to show that whatever &quot;The Man&quot; comes out with and however much money they throw at it, small freelancers can create work-arounds to get the pirates still going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, you realize that with every new technology/program that gets rolled out to protect big companies from copyright infringment, there is always people who can make work arounds.  Its not that big of a deal&#8230; we will have to wait about 3 days before some big brains figure out how to block that.</p>
<p>Microsoft has been worried about people downloading their software and validating it since the begining of torrenting.  The thing is&#8230; its been what 25 years so far and they have had 3-5 OSs release since then and they still cant stop people getting Vista.  This just goes to show that whatever &#8220;The Man&#8221; comes out with and however much money they throw at it, small freelancers can create work-arounds to get the pirates still going.</p>
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		<title>By: GateCrasher</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436447</link>
		<dc:creator>GateCrasher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure about this, but wouldn&#039;t a program such as PeerGuardian protect against this?

http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure about this, but wouldn&#8217;t a program such as PeerGuardian protect against this?</p>
<p><a href="http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/" rel="nofollow">http://phoenixlabs.org/pg2/</a></p>
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		<title>By: sleeplessinva</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436407</link>
		<dc:creator>sleeplessinva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way to fight against deep packet inspection, is not through encryption, but simply inject more data into the stream.

Let&#039;s suppose there was a program, that was able to craw the internet, 24x7x365.  When you were home, when you are not at home.  Its simple objective is to simply crawl the world wide web of crap.  If this program was to run constantly, even if you were surfing, downloading, streaming, etc, how can a third-party tell what you were really doing?

Scale this scenario for every internet user.  Can the all ISPs inspect all the streams?  Sure.  The problem will come from them making sense of what is true usage and what is white noise.

Once the DPI becomes mainstream, I am sure applications such as I mentioned above will not be far behind.

Behold, the reverse honeypot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way to fight against deep packet inspection, is not through encryption, but simply inject more data into the stream.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s suppose there was a program, that was able to craw the internet, 24&#215;7x365.  When you were home, when you are not at home.  Its simple objective is to simply crawl the world wide web of crap.  If this program was to run constantly, even if you were surfing, downloading, streaming, etc, how can a third-party tell what you were really doing?</p>
<p>Scale this scenario for every internet user.  Can the all ISPs inspect all the streams?  Sure.  The problem will come from them making sense of what is true usage and what is white noise.</p>
<p>Once the DPI becomes mainstream, I am sure applications such as I mentioned above will not be far behind.</p>
<p>Behold, the reverse honeypot.</p>
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		<title>By: adith</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436405</link>
		<dc:creator>adith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check out my blog for hot stuffs
www.flowtationaddvice.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check out my blog for hot stuffs<br />
<a href="http://www.flowtationaddvice.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.flowtationaddvice.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: #YLS#</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436271</link>
		<dc:creator>#YLS#</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i&#039;ve just made my contribution, hope it helps!

good news about the quote! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i&#8217;ve just made my contribution, hope it helps!</p>
<p>good news about the quote! :D</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Hanff</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/deep-packet-inspection-080629/#comment-436237</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Hanff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 11:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the first quote for the mobile PA came in at over Â£500 but I have just managed to get another quote for Â£120 including generator, delivery to the event and collection after the event.  So that is a bonus and much lower than I was expecting.

So we are looking at about Â£340 needed excluding adwords, or about Â£490 including the adwords campaign.

Alexander Hanff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the first quote for the mobile PA came in at over Â£500 but I have just managed to get another quote for Â£120 including generator, delivery to the event and collection after the event.  So that is a bonus and much lower than I was expecting.</p>
<p>So we are looking at about Â£340 needed excluding adwords, or about Â£490 including the adwords campaign.</p>
<p>Alexander Hanff</p>
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