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		<title>By: ScrewEwe2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ScrewEwe2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;The UK doesn&#039;t actually have any record labels, as far as I know.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

For starters Alex, 100&#039;s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:British_record_labels&amp;from=A]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The UK doesn&#8217;t actually have any record labels, as far as I know.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>For starters Alex, 100&#8242;s:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:British_record_labels&#038;from=A" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:British_record_labels&#038;from=A</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex M</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 11:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Jeoaff76, on a moral level of course it&#039;s stealing, but Demonoid didn&#039;t steal anything - it didn&#039;t share or upload any files. It was simply a portal for users to track and share. The UK doesn&#039;t actually have any record labels, as far as I know  (they&#039;re all US or Japanese corporations. The UK certainly has artists and producers (the best in the world, in my opinion.

I didn&#039;t just use Demonoid to get copyrighted material. I used it to get documentaries made by &quot;truth seekers&quot; that were not copyrighted for obvious reasons and I know many others did too.

I think you&#039;re missing the point here, somewhat; this isn&#039;t about copyrighted material being downloaded. That old argument has been around since Napster. This was a Trojan Horse (sort of. not a great metaphor, I know). Insiders in the US have wanted to stop people criticising the govt for years and this is a first step. Obama&#039;s been wanting power over the internet ever since he took office. I find this rather hyprocritical as he spoke against Egypt pulling the internet at the beginning of the protests.

The laws written in the US are so vague to give a govt out of control and greedy for power and the silence of its critics the framework to silence them in the future. This also happened in the UK but with the help of Big Brother Watch&#039;s rallying of its supporters and other pressure groups it was squashed. In the US, sadly the people are afraid of the govt. With a little phrase &quot;un-American&quot; the people have been silenced. You&#039;ll find this nowhere else in the world. There&#039;s no one saying &quot;That&#039;s un-British&quot; or &quot;that&#039;s un-Australian.&quot; The US has far too much power in the affairs of other nations too. The Russians completely caved to US pressure, as did the Canadian govt before. 

The US is attempting to extradite people it sees as &quot;terrorists&quot; - another word that has become like trying to nail jelly to the wall - by fair means or foul. If Sweden gets Julian Assange, for example, they will allow the US to get him - when he has committed no crime. He didn&#039;t steal that information, he simply disseminated it, like the NY Times did (who have never even been threatened with legal action). Assange can not be a traitor to the US as he is Australian. It&#039;s all about sending messages and setting precedents. You have to look at the global implications of every political policy. How is it worded. Is the language tight (like the US constitution); can it be used to mean something else later?

A few words about elephants: A pink elephant is something alcoholics see; a white elephant is something useless or pointless; and the (plain) elephant in the room is the metaphorical discussion no one wants to have.

I&#039;ll also say this. Whenever I downloaded an album by an artist I like but couldn&#039;t afford it a the time, I did purchase it as soon as I could. I want the art work as well as the music and I want the flexibility I get from original media. I have over 400 DVDs and BRs too. Truth.

I have no idea where you can get you Quad remixes. You&#039;ll notice there are fewer and fewer places for torrents these days. BTJunkie, PirateBay and now Demonoid. ISOHunt is crap as people don&#039;t use it properly and many torrents have few peers, except recent movies (which is probably why it&#039;s still there).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Jeoaff76, on a moral level of course it&#8217;s stealing, but Demonoid didn&#8217;t steal anything &#8211; it didn&#8217;t share or upload any files. It was simply a portal for users to track and share. The UK doesn&#8217;t actually have any record labels, as far as I know  (they&#8217;re all US or Japanese corporations. The UK certainly has artists and producers (the best in the world, in my opinion.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t just use Demonoid to get copyrighted material. I used it to get documentaries made by &#8220;truth seekers&#8221; that were not copyrighted for obvious reasons and I know many others did too.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point here, somewhat; this isn&#8217;t about copyrighted material being downloaded. That old argument has been around since Napster. This was a Trojan Horse (sort of. not a great metaphor, I know). Insiders in the US have wanted to stop people criticising the govt for years and this is a first step. Obama&#8217;s been wanting power over the internet ever since he took office. I find this rather hyprocritical as he spoke against Egypt pulling the internet at the beginning of the protests.</p>
<p>The laws written in the US are so vague to give a govt out of control and greedy for power and the silence of its critics the framework to silence them in the future. This also happened in the UK but with the help of Big Brother Watch&#8217;s rallying of its supporters and other pressure groups it was squashed. In the US, sadly the people are afraid of the govt. With a little phrase &#8220;un-American&#8221; the people have been silenced. You&#8217;ll find this nowhere else in the world. There&#8217;s no one saying &#8220;That&#8217;s un-British&#8221; or &#8220;that&#8217;s un-Australian.&#8221; The US has far too much power in the affairs of other nations too. The Russians completely caved to US pressure, as did the Canadian govt before. </p>
<p>The US is attempting to extradite people it sees as &#8220;terrorists&#8221; &#8211; another word that has become like trying to nail jelly to the wall &#8211; by fair means or foul. If Sweden gets Julian Assange, for example, they will allow the US to get him &#8211; when he has committed no crime. He didn&#8217;t steal that information, he simply disseminated it, like the NY Times did (who have never even been threatened with legal action). Assange can not be a traitor to the US as he is Australian. It&#8217;s all about sending messages and setting precedents. You have to look at the global implications of every political policy. How is it worded. Is the language tight (like the US constitution); can it be used to mean something else later?</p>
<p>A few words about elephants: A pink elephant is something alcoholics see; a white elephant is something useless or pointless; and the (plain) elephant in the room is the metaphorical discussion no one wants to have.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also say this. Whenever I downloaded an album by an artist I like but couldn&#8217;t afford it a the time, I did purchase it as soon as I could. I want the art work as well as the music and I want the flexibility I get from original media. I have over 400 DVDs and BRs too. Truth.</p>
<p>I have no idea where you can get you Quad remixes. You&#8217;ll notice there are fewer and fewer places for torrents these days. BTJunkie, PirateBay and now Demonoid. ISOHunt is crap as people don&#8217;t use it properly and many torrents have few peers, except recent movies (which is probably why it&#8217;s still there).</p>
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		<title>By: Joegaff76</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joegaff76]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Boy oh boy...I miss Demonoid too - it was a great place to grab homemade Quadrophonic, vinyl remixes of classic albums using the DVD Audio music platform.  BUT...let&#039;s be realistic here. We all knew this would happen. Whether we call it &quot;sharing&quot;or not, when we download a DVD or Blu-Ray file (MKV file or not), audio-book or Music - it&#039;s stealing...plain and simple. The excuse &quot;well hollywood makes billions of $$ anyway...this download won&#039;t hurt them&quot; means nothing - if you steal from a billionaire or some destitute homeless person it&#039;s still stealing.  At least I admit it, can anyone else here see the big pink elephant in the corner of the room?.  And GLOBALIZATION of corporations are what took-down the site...not just the USA.  Don&#039;t forget the good ol&#039; UK has major film and recording Studios too...and they weren&#039;t immune to losing money. &quot;Freedom of Speech&quot; doesn&#039;t cover download piracy, c&#039;mon people. Just admit it - we all knew this site would go down...most (not all) of the content was Pirated - plain and simple. I&#039;m angry more for losing THE BEST quadrophonic and surround sound music source on the web than I am about losing hollywood films. Every day I was able to grab something off Demonoid I realized that one day it wouldn&#039;t be there anymore.   Believe me, I really miss Demonoid - does anyone know where to get those wonderful Quadrophonic Re-Mixes of classic albums in DVD Audio Surround Sound?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy oh boy&#8230;I miss Demonoid too &#8211; it was a great place to grab homemade Quadrophonic, vinyl remixes of classic albums using the DVD Audio music platform.  BUT&#8230;let&#8217;s be realistic here. We all knew this would happen. Whether we call it &#8220;sharing&#8221;or not, when we download a DVD or Blu-Ray file (MKV file or not), audio-book or Music &#8211; it&#8217;s stealing&#8230;plain and simple. The excuse &#8220;well hollywood makes billions of $$ anyway&#8230;this download won&#8217;t hurt them&#8221; means nothing &#8211; if you steal from a billionaire or some destitute homeless person it&#8217;s still stealing.  At least I admit it, can anyone else here see the big pink elephant in the corner of the room?.  And GLOBALIZATION of corporations are what took-down the site&#8230;not just the USA.  Don&#8217;t forget the good ol&#8217; UK has major film and recording Studios too&#8230;and they weren&#8217;t immune to losing money. &#8220;Freedom of Speech&#8221; doesn&#8217;t cover download piracy, c&#8217;mon people. Just admit it &#8211; we all knew this site would go down&#8230;most (not all) of the content was Pirated &#8211; plain and simple. I&#8217;m angry more for losing THE BEST quadrophonic and surround sound music source on the web than I am about losing hollywood films. Every day I was able to grab something off Demonoid I realized that one day it wouldn&#8217;t be there anymore.   Believe me, I really miss Demonoid &#8211; does anyone know where to get those wonderful Quadrophonic Re-Mixes of classic albums in DVD Audio Surround Sound?</p>
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		<title>By: Remote Rodent</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Remote Rodent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See how nice Demonoid users are :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See how nice Demonoid users are :)</p>
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		<title>By: Bollockx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bollockx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s always bloody America that has to screw things up for everyone else. Don&#039;t those guys have a constitution that has freedom of speech and expression set in stone? The biggest govt in the world and Americans let it get bigger and bigger and allow it more and more power. Shame on you Americans for being too cowardly to hold your govt to account!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always bloody America that has to screw things up for everyone else. Don&#8217;t those guys have a constitution that has freedom of speech and expression set in stone? The biggest govt in the world and Americans let it get bigger and bigger and allow it more and more power. Shame on you Americans for being too cowardly to hold your govt to account!</p>
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		<title>By: Bodmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bodmaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Greed, that&#039;s all governments, not just the bent ones (USA) especially, yanks think they own everything sad deluded fuckers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Greed, that&#8217;s all governments, not just the bent ones (USA) especially, yanks think they own everything sad deluded fuckers!</p>
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		<title>By: AnoNyMous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AnoNyMous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Use IsoHunt.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Use IsoHunt.com</p>
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		<title>By: Obama Ambassador In Cambodia On Day Pirate Bay Founder Was Arrested &#124; TorrentFreak</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obama Ambassador In Cambodia On Day Pirate Bay Founder Was Arrested &#124; TorrentFreak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in early August it was suggested by sources in the Ukrainian government&#8217;s Interior Ministry that the closure of Demonoid was [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in early August it was suggested by sources in the Ukrainian government&#8217;s Interior Ministry that the closure of Demonoid was [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Juggys69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juggys69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 06:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evan, your retarded, Demoniod wasn&#039;t a public site, you had to get invited, it just had a very, very large base of people~~

 That&#039;s why the site was so good, don&#039;t know why you are trashing public sites anyway&#039;s, Torrentspy, and BTjunkies were the BEST torrent sites til they got closed down, both public, you used to be able to find ANYTHING you were looking for on those 2, regardless, Demoniod wasn&#039;t public, so am guessing you never bothered going there to find that out, without a membership you wouldn&#039;t have been able to DL squat~~]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evan, your retarded, Demoniod wasn&#8217;t a public site, you had to get invited, it just had a very, very large base of people~~</p>
<p> That&#8217;s why the site was so good, don&#8217;t know why you are trashing public sites anyway&#8217;s, Torrentspy, and BTjunkies were the BEST torrent sites til they got closed down, both public, you used to be able to find ANYTHING you were looking for on those 2, regardless, Demoniod wasn&#8217;t public, so am guessing you never bothered going there to find that out, without a membership you wouldn&#8217;t have been able to DL squat~~</p>
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		<title>By: Goddess Qomolangma</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Goddess Qomolangma]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 04:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all live in the Matrix world... a well controlled show by the Puppet Master!

Just try the Andrew Hitchcock&#039;s masterpiece of the World 2.5-Century Timeline, &quot;The History of the House...&quot; - http://bit.ly/MhkwoV or its terser .ppt version: http://bit.ly/NlwRto
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all live in the Matrix world&#8230; a well controlled show by the Puppet Master!</p>
<p>Just try the Andrew Hitchcock&#8217;s masterpiece of the World 2.5-Century Timeline, &#8220;The History of the House&#8230;&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/MhkwoV" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/MhkwoV</a> or its terser .ppt version: <a href="http://bit.ly/NlwRto" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/NlwRto</a></p>
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