Demonoid Returns, Forced to Block Canadian Traffic By the CRIA
Written by Ernesto on September 30, 2007The popular BitTorrent tracker Demonoid is back online after nearly a week of downtime. The website and the tracker are hosted on the same ISP, but Canadian traffic is blocked thanks to pressure from the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA).
On the Demonoid frontpage we now read:
We received a letter from a lawyer representing the CRIA, they were threatening with legal action and we need to start blocking Canadian traffic because of this. Thanks for your understanding, and sorry for any inconvenience.
This confirms our earlier reports this week, and show that the CRIA was indeed responsible for the downtime. It’s been a controversial week and at times emotions were running really high. In the absence of any official announcement it was really hard to separate fact from fiction, with rumor and counter-rumor.
The bad news of course is that Demonoid is now unavailable to Canadians. Unfortunately it is not the fist time an anti-piracy organization effectively shuts down access to a part of the BitTorrent community. Earlier this week Isohunt had to ban US users from its trackers, and last month TorrentSpy blocked access to US users, both by pressure from the MPAA.
At the time we write this article, the forums are still offline, but it probably wont take long before these are back online too. The first sign of Demonoid’s return came yesterday when the trackers started responding again.
When an avalanche of upset Demonoid users came to TorrentFreak this week, the mood was grim when not only their site disappeared but also doubts were cast on our report. We aim to be a credible news source and understand the responsibility we have in the BitTorrent community. While understanding how Demonoid’s Canadian users must be feeling right now, it’s great that we now get the chance to share in the relief of the majority of Demonoid’s dedicated userbase.
The second most popular BitTorrent tracker on planet earth has returned, that’s the most important thing.
Update: Demonoid is having some problems again, this message now appears: “The latest changes to the site are giving us some problems - We’ll be back soon”
Previously: BitLet Evolves: Create and Upload Torrents Online
Next: The Pirate Bay is Developing a New BitTorrent Tracker
711 Responses
Once again, you got lucky with a hunch. However, there is a big difference between this and a raid.
Dam im in canada!!!
Fuck yeah, Demonoid!
First Comment! This is such a GREAT news to hear!!!!! :D:D
Thanks You for returning!
God damn it ! Why the fuck doset someone bomb the cria offices already i want my torrents !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Find a way t get the canadians back ! we got the latest Movie Rips !
[quote comment="177823"]Once again, you got lucky with a hunch. However, there is a big difference between this and a raid.[/quote]
Glad you admit we were right. And read the original article, we never said anything bout a raid!
Cheers, Ernesto
lol rumors ftw
Get the fuck out of Canada.
Think you guys owe Ernesto some apologies.
Thank goodness for proxies? =D
If it’s legal in Canada, how come they just roll over and play dead? We Canadians need to fight this!
fuck the cria, fuck the mpaa, fuck the riaa. Demonoid fight for us Canadians, don’t be pushed around by ass eating homo’s. They have no legal standing to sue you guys, you dont host the content, you merely provide a link to the content, please do something!.
Atleast the site’s back up :/
@ Canadian ppl, i’m crying for you! (lol :P)
Yeah, it’s just GREAT news that Demonoid has cavied into the CRIA, that Canadians now cannot access it, and that every asshat and their dog is completely dismissing that situation as irrelevant to the file sharing community. Effing wonderful.
Tears of joy
[quote comment="177824"]Dam im in canada!!![/quote]Grab your self a copy of hide ip or any proxy program . ;)
just use a web proxy..a slight hassle, but better than being blocked from demonoid for good :P
wish i had a invite to the site :(
For anyone who can’t access Demonoid anymore, you can install the following Switchproxy addon for Firefox.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/125
Then google your way around for proxy lists and tutorials (if you haven’t used proxies before), and you’ll be back in business. I used to do this when my ISP was blocked by demonoid a few months ago. Browsing becomes a little slower but imo this is the best way for a workaround.
If you can access the site using proxy but the tracker cannot be accessed by your torrent client, there are proxy workarounds for that too depending on the client you use.
Awesome! Demonoid Rules!
isn’t this exactly what DHT IS MADE FOR.
All this shows us that Demonoid can be imtimidate. Who cares if they got a letter from cira they have no real power Demonoid should have told the cira too fuck off
some people own you an apology
I suspect that Demonoid’s Canadian user-base may not take this lying down. A great number of members and prolific seeders of Demonoid reside in Canada. Remember that when your torrent takes 10x longer to complete.
thank god demon-oid is breathin again
THIS IS UNFAIR!
[quote comment="177866"]I suspect that Demonoid’s Canadian user-base may not take this lying down.
A great number of members and prolific seeders of Demonoid reside in Canada.
Remember that when your torrent takes 10x longer to complete.[/quote]
And YOU need to remember that this is not the fault of Demonoid or It’s owners/operators….
While this sucks if anyone would like to shoot an invitation over to woomba at gmail.com it’d be really appreciated :)
While this sucks if anyone would like to shoot an invitation over to woomba at gmail.com it’d be really appreciated :)
I appreciate TorrentFraek’s news on this matter the whole past week. They were the ONLY ones who seemed to investigate this matter. Deimos the owner REFUSED — REFUSED — REFUSED to comment and no other staffers were allowed to.
In spite of that blockage, TorrentFreak got it 95% right. It was the CRIA who was responsible for Demonoid shutting down. Demonoid staffers said this was not confirmed, but refused to confirm or deny it anything else. YET IS WAS TRUE. Bunch of liars. Again they had surrogates in IRC chat lie for them that it was “hardware problems”. Hardware problems don’t take a week to solve!
We are not idiots and this is an age of global communications — blogs, cell phones, texting, email. A week of silence is unacceptable. And so is a week of lies by Demonoid. TorrentFreak got ti right. At least right enough.
Demonoid is the #2 torrent site in the world and we are expected to be concerned when it goes down. How about “We’re having some issues we can’t talk about but we’ll be back.” SOMETHING.
you’ve handled the assholes that called you a liar quite tactfully.
For all the Canadian Brothers here, use a proxy that is based in another country(US or other). This was you’ll still be able to use Demonoid. ;)
All you need to do is to download Tor proxy and then you can download torrents from Demonoid.You won’t be able to sign into your account if you’re from Canada but you will be allowed to download a few torrents a week as a guest :-)
[quote comment="177875"]I appreciate TorrentFraek’s news on this matter the whole past week. They were the ONLY ones who seemed to investigate this matter. Deimos the owner REFUSED — REFUSED — REFUSED to comment and no other staffers were allowed to.
In spite of that blockage, TorrentFreak got it 95% right. It was the CRIA who was responsible for Demonoid shutting down. Demonoid staffers said this was not confirmed, but refused to confirm or deny it anything else. YET IS WAS TRUE. Bunch of liars. Again they had surrogates in IRC chat lie for them that it was “hardware problems”. Hardware problems don’t take a week to solve!
We are not idiots and this is an age of global communications — blogs, cell phones, texting, email. A week of silence is unacceptable. And so is a week of lies by Demonoid. TorrentFreak got ti right. At least right enough.
Demonoid is the #2 torrent site in the world and we are expected to be concerned when it goes down. How about “We’re having some issues we can’t talk about but we’ll be back.” SOMETHING.[/quote]
How about NOT tossing around rumors? How about NOT allowing posters to assume the identity of other posters? How about NOT posting things that you DON”T KNOW FOR SURE are true? Demonoid does not owe any of you anything. Do you pay for the service? NO….quit bitching….
If you live in Canada than maybe you can reach the site through an anonymous proxy !!!
I’m so happy that Demonoid is still up :D
Back up and already one server busy message. Demonoid should *really* shut off their invite system. Especially since the CRIA notice turned out to be true, and the high levels of negativity towards Demonoid and its users.
Amazingly, all the seeds to my torrents never left, they kept going even though the tracker was down.
Canadians could just use a socks proxy, or tor in utorrent or azureus.
can anyone suggest some good proxies for us Canuks - although im concerned that they’ll block us in the tracker too so it wont matter.
im glad to hear demonoids back (for everyone else) but crushed that we got screwed - which I dont quite understand… why just block us?
if only they were like Piratebay and said “nananananana”
haha, kiss ernesto’s ass you mouth breathers
What does this mean for the price of maple syrup?
demonoid doesn’t seem to be back up at all…nor the forum
Does the CRIA even represent any Canadian music labels, I thought they all pulled out of the CRIA?
proxy.org has tonnes of proxies for Canadians. learn 2 google folks.
i send there will be a movement away from using Demonoid. time for them to move, or die off.
Demonoid uses an antiquated system whereby the IP address you login with is the one the tracker records for ratio purposes. So unless you proxy your BT traffic, you’ll be dead soon.
If they were smart they’d switch to a keybased system ala piggy site and many others.
i feel sorry for the ppl that donated from canada.. i think demonoid should return there money .as they have rolled over and blocked canada from getting on there
that complete BS. There is no law being broken by demonoid, as there are no laws against demonoid. I’m wicked surprised/pissed they didn’t fight it
Gah… That sucks… Oh well… At least we’re not getting our asses sued (i’m canadian)
I live in canada and i have proxyed into demonoid site and logged in and its just like the good old times.
I used http://www.guardster.com/subscription/proxy_free.php
Thanks a lot to the torrent freak team for keeping us updated and informed while this matter unfolded. Thank you, also, for any future efforts to keep the community of users, and the supporters of bit-torrent and p2p in general informed as legal issues surrounding copyrights and distrobutin unfold and evolve.
This is a difficult topic to get ballanced news on, certainly, and it is nice to have a voice on the side of the community/consumer.
While I am glad Demonoid has returned, I was never truly concerned. If the bif “D” goes down, then something would have taken it’s place, it really is that simple. Time is the only thing needed for new evolutions to occure, it is the way of things.
I think the community, tho, has a responsibility, clearly, to build.
Build infastructure to support itself should this happen again to make painless transitions in the future. Be aware that headaches and battles are not over, and worse things could yet come our way. So prepare.
We, as a community cannot bicker and whine while influential giants are steadfastly working hard to stop us. Net neutrality is a joke (for instance comcast users cannot seed outside of the comcast network…the protocal has been blocked, not the sharing of copyrighted material, why is this allowed?), and “they” won’t stop until they either loose their ass or we do. It is that simple.
Regardless, having a few central sights that consume the majority of interest in the BT community is dangerous to the stability of that community.
BUILD
[quote]If they were smart they’d switch to a keybased system ala piggy site and many others.[/quote]
But it’s a public tracker, key based ratio recording is only for private trackers.
all these articles relating to public trackers blocking certain countries from accessing them are so feckin dramatic.. guess it makes for good read… why arent u mentioning IN BIG BOLD CAPS TXT that all these trackers are still accessible from ANYWHERE via a proxy? then maybe drop a link or 2 to a proxy list.
u give credibility to these fag corporate whores by not mentioning and providing links to SIMPLE workarounds.
;)
Proxy can make ur connection speed slow sometimes, get on a VPN guys, they’ll never be able to trace you.
I’m on relakks.com, Swedish IP addresses
einstein.. proxy would be needed to just download the .torrent file
This freaking sucks for me, as yet another Canadian. This was my number one site for non-current TV shows. Grrr.
Not sure why the CRIA (music) can shutdown this site for all Canadians when many like me never bother downloading music from there in the first place.
[quote]This confirms our earlier reports this week, and show that the CRIA was indeed responsible for the downtime.[/quote]
This confirms…. errr…. absolutely NOTHING. Unless you can explain why Demonoid had to shut down for a WHOLE week, just to block Canadian IPs.
There are ways of getting around the Canadian ban, email me at temp_demonoid_fix@yahoo.com if you would like info, or look it up yourself. Just google up on masking your IP and you’ll be able to find stuff easy
Way to go Demonoid CRIA is a joke you fell for.
Why do you nerds get so angry about this? You argue semantics whether he was right or not. This is a good site for torrent news and all you guys do is show how bitter and immature you’re all are.
Fucking failures at life.
Why don’t you just post the info here instead of answering emails?
BIG THANKS TO ALL @ DEMONOID
LOVE IT
not sure on the legal stuff, if I can post websites etc
Not sure what this sites policies are for posting website links in forrum
Fuck, that’s so gay.
sorry
[quote comment="177881"]All you need to do is to download Tor proxy and then you can download torrents from Demonoid.You won’t be able to sign into your account if you’re from Canada but you will be allowed to download a few torrents a week as a guest :-)[/quote]
unless your exit node is canadian !!
Well, look at it from both sides of the debate that went on this week.
Ernesto - Did what he thought was best and tried to find answers and reported something that couldn’t be factually confirmed at the time of reporting. To some Demonoid members this looked like he was FOR the site being taken down, or at worse reporting rumor as fact.
Demonites - When you feel that someone is attacking something that you are passionate about, you generally try to defend it. Most of the Demonoid users just laughed off Ernesto as we didn’t know any more facts than he did, but some people chose to lash out…with Ernesto as the only sensible target within reach.
So both sides did somethings right and somethings wrong. Ernesto did what he felt was his duty as a journalist, even if to some people it looked more like rumor-mongering than reporting. Demonoid fans were angry at their site being taken down, and since it was unknown who aim that anger at, Ernesto presented himself, albeit perhaps unjustified.
While I could do without Ernesto’s brief “I told you so” in this report (see last paragraph), I can also see his need to perhaps feel vindicated. We should all just brief a sigh of relief that Demonoid is back on its way up, even if it is at the expense of some of the user bases access to it. As others have commented already, that is easy enough to get around.
So lets all end the “nerd rage” and just go back to our normal routines of torrenting and chatting with our community…peacefully.
Canadian users can use this proxy to enter demonoid.
Type “demonoid.com” in the URL field and press Enter.
Good to see TF is yet again on the mark. Great blog, love reading it.
It’s ass that a letter from a CRIA Lawyer would block Canadians. We pay a levy in Canada on all duplication media - CD’s DVD’s Cassttes ect. - and it is legal to share. This still doesn’t seem right… or maybe demonoid doesn’t get the shaky ground the CRIA is on…
Fuck the CRIA.
This blog full of lies sucks!!
Ernesto,
No one will believe you anymore. You lost many readers with your rumour stealing from another website!!
You didnT know anything till you read that at DEMONOID frontpage! You admited that.
For this action you really suck!
Fuck you - you belong to CRIA
“This confirms our earlier reports this week, and show that the CRIA was indeed responsible for the downtime. It’s been a controversial week and at times emotions were running really high. In the absence of any official announcement it was really hard to separate fact from fiction, with rumor and counter-rumor.”
That’s called bad journalism.
Why is everybody so Fucking upset? Demonoid is back! who cares about right or wrong in rumor land?
Dearest Ernesto, considering where the previous discussions on this subject have gone, do you really want to continue entertaining these ideas? ;)
I love how people bitch about Demonoid “caving” into the CRIA. Would *you* like to host a torrent tracker yourself and face legal actions? What’s that? No you say? Yeah, fuck off and stop bitching. I doubt any of the whiners actually donate and simply leech. What right do you have to complain?
As a Canadian, it sure does suck not being able to access the site. It also isn’t worth the headache to try and get around the block. I guess soon the trackers wont work and I will have no access at all.
By the by it must have been a difficult decision. I would gladly sacrifice my account so that some people still have access to the site. There are other torrent sites, yes it might be harder to find what I am looking for but I’ll manage.
They did take the easiest way out, but seeing how they are in Canada, it is a small wonder why they are still allowed to operate, even though they blocked Canadian traffic.
ManofPeace go fuck yourself. It’s a discussion board If you want everyone to stop compaining, just stop reading you idiot. what are you doing here at all fool?
what headache you type two words into google, click on a site type in demonoid then you get access to a site that banned in a whole country, wow that sure is a headache…
[quote comment="177950"]This blog full of lies sucks!!
Ernesto,
No one will believe you anymore. You lost many readers with your rumour stealing from another website!!
You didnT know anything till you read that at DEMONOID frontpage! You admited that.
For this action you really suck!
Fuck you - you belong to CRIA[/quote]
Dear “This blog full of lies sucks!!”
I never claimed to know anything. Please read the original article again. I never wrote that demonoid was raided, I just wrote that a credible source reported that the CRIA was responsible for the downtime at Demonoid.
This turned out to be true.
[quote]But it’s a public tracker, key based ratio recording is only for private trackers.[/quote]
Well, they don’t care about the IP when its used publicly without logging in.
If a key is provided it goes towards that users ratio. When serving to non account holders just omit the key.
Uch, that SUCKS! Why the hell do i have to live in a place where no one cares about demonoid!?! I’m gonna have to use proxies now… Quick, demonoid, move your servers to Sweden!
I’m a new demonoid user but I was really upset when I saw it was down this week.
For US users torrentspy.com blocked access. Easy way around is to use this nice website-proxy:
http://anonymouse.org/
Its german and it works great. Im in US and I still use torrentspy like before except I go through the proxy.
Same think for canadians. Use this http://anonymouse.org/ to browse and login into your account and for the tracker most likely DHT will work. If DHT does not work use TOR to mask your real IP.
And thanks torretfreak.com for the news. U guys are great !
[quote comment="177965"]what headache you type two words into google, click on a site type in demonoid then you get access to a site that banned in a whole country, wow that sure is a headache…[/quote]
??? What?
[quote comment="177883"][quote comment="177875"]I appreciate TorrentFraek’s news on this matter the whole past week. They were the ONLY ones who seemed to investigate this matter. Deimos the owner REFUSED — REFUSED — REFUSED to comment and no other staffers were allowed to.
In spite of that blockage, TorrentFreak got it 95% right. It was the CRIA who was responsible for Demonoid shutting down. Demonoid staffers said this was not confirmed, but refused to confirm or deny it anything else. YET IS WAS TRUE. Bunch of liars. Again they had surrogates in IRC chat lie for them that it was “hardware problems”. Hardware problems don’t take a week to solve!
We are not idiots and this is an age of global communications — blogs, cell phones, texting, email. A week of silence is unacceptable. And so is a week of lies by Demonoid. TorrentFreak got ti right. At least right enough.
Demonoid is the #2 torrent site in the world and we are expected to be concerned when it goes down. How about “We’re having some issues we can’t talk about but we’ll be back.” SOMETHING.[/quote]
[b]How about NOT tossing around rumors? [/b] …[/quote]
Sad to see that people can’t admit they were wrong by blaming Ernesto for the reporting and calling him a liar. TF is where I come to get the news because they are the most credible site I have known so far. Keep up the good work no matter how many idiots out there spew ignorance.
[quote comment="177966"][quote comment="177950"]This blog full of lies sucks!!
Ernesto,
No one will believe you anymore. You lost many readers with your rumour stealing from another website!!
You didnT know anything till you read that at DEMONOID frontpage! You admited that.
For this action you really suck!
Fuck you - you belong to CRIA[/quote]
Dear “This blog full of lies sucks!!”
I never claimed to know anything. Please read the original article again. I never wrote that demonoid was raided, I just wrote that a credible source reported that the CRIA was responsible for the downtime at Demonoid.
This turned out to be true.[/quote]
Bullshit and lies. You can’t say that they were down for a week just because of the CRIA.
As a Canadian I’m disappointed.
But it’s easy to get around the “ban” so meh, big deal!
[quote comment="177978"]Sad to see that people can’t admit they were wrong by blaming Ernesto for the reporting and calling him a liar. TF is where I come to get the news because they are the most credible site I have known so far. Keep up the good work no matter how many idiots out there spew ignorance.[/quote]
great to see there are still people with a brain using this site, its like no one actually read the article mabe the first 2 lines then thought up the rest, there were no confirmation at all, ernesto tried to get some answers from either party but received no usefull information, which they made clear
if people cant grasp that then im glad your never using the site again
Hooray! and God Bless America! Canada’s anthem should be changed from O! Canada to Doh! Canada!
eh?
[quote comment="177848"]Atleast the site’s back up :/
@ Canadian ppl, i’m crying for you! (lol :P)[/quote]
I applaud Anthoy’s statement.
All these organisations; CRIa, MPAA, have had numerous oppertunities to form their own cheap money making networks, e.g. rememeber napster?
But these guys are the greediest dirty mother-fuckers on the planet, hiring weasly little fuck lawyers who don’t know an honest days pay, to push scare tactics on the free communties.
Demonoid, don’t let those weasly fuckers push you around.
Ernesto thank you for the news, once again you are on top of the ball. :)
big thank you to stonedslacker and his post #20 above - got it working in short order, thanks, brother. ;)
Fuck.
Oh wait, In less than 10 seconds, I got back on with a proxy.
In case anyone’s curious:
“We received a letter from a lawyer represeting the CRIA, they were threatening with legal action and We need to start blocking Canadian traffic because of this. If you reside in Canada, that is the reason you are being redirected to this message. Thanks for your understanding, and sorry for any inconvenience.”
I’m a canadian and by using a few proxies I’m successfully downloading from demonoid again. It’s a real shame and I wish demonoid would man up and stand up to the CRIA, but I’m glad they’re back at all. Canadian users, hang in there!
I am in Canada and used a proxy and was able to get in demonoid and even log in.
damn i wish i could get on demonoid but my password isnt working, which is pretty worrying for a start but hopefully its just a mistake on my behalf
on the other hand if there is anyone who has an account i can get a message up on the demonoid forum or a spare invite code then you would be doing me a favour
If you are in Canada or any other country that has been blocked find a torrent site where you can download “Hide Ip” or do a search for free proxy services.
Bravo TorrentFreak ,
Humble pie for the bitches out there :)
[quote comment="177966"]I just wrote that a credible source reported that the CRIA was responsible for the downtime at Demonoid.
This turned out to be true.[/quote]
Only if the CRIA summons was issued before the downtime. If you haven’t seen the summons, there’s no way you can say for sure if it’s “true” or not.
Knowing how organisations like CRIA, RIAA and BREIN work, I wouldn’t be surprised if they took advantage of the downtime to make it look like they actually *caused* it.
the fora(forum) is back up
Yep - the Tor proxy / Vidalia works jus fine! It slows down browsing a lot, but then it comes wit a button that installs into firefox to quickly enable / disable it. So u only need use it when yur going to demonoid.
Glad to see Demonoid up and running again. But why this hatred against Torrentfreak??? Sure, basing information on rumours is a bad thing but sometimes that’s the best you can do.
I think that the article clearly stated that no information was available, but an educated guess based on so-so information said that it might be CRIA.
No matter if that was the truth or not, I still got the news that Demonoid was down. For me, that’s roughly all I need. The rest can be found by snooping around the net. Torrentfreak posted some info, as did other sites. On the whole it gave me a pretty good picture of what was happening.
I never trust any source to 100% without checking the facts first. God could have a blog/newssite and I still wouldn’t believe the facts unless I could verify them. So stop blaming Ernesto for giving false/bad information. Be thankful for the good job he actually does.
I for one find Torrentfreak one of the best and most reliable sites out here. So keep up the good job and don’t let a few brainless twits get to you. There are still quite a few of us who appreciate your site =)
Are these Demonoid fanboys crazed 13 y.o. boys?
Torrentspy said CRIA was responsible for the downtime, and it turns out they were. Torrentspy was right, fanboys were wrong. Get over it.
All this ‘the admin is has a real life and is too busy to respond’ crap. How long does it take to write a response. About 5 mins? He wasn’t too busy to block off all of Canada.
[quote comment="178004"]
Torrentspy said CRIA was responsible for the downtime, and it turns out they were. Torrentspy was right, fanboys were wrong. Get over it.[/quote]
Do you know the date of the summons? No? Then it’s *still* conjecture.
“The second most popular BitTorrent tracker on planet earth has returned, that’s the most important thing.”
It would be better if it returned to Canada as well. i do agree that this is just going to help with the promotion of DHT. I am sick, though, of these evil organizations crying foul just because nobody is buying from their brick and mortar outlets. If they had a decent online alternative, many wouldn’t go to the torrents in the first place. Oh, wait. The crap they produce is usually not being shared on bittorrent.
thank god!!!!
YES!
long live demonoid!!!
Demonoid rocks,also to a comment i seen,torrentspy for USA residents is http://www.torrentreactor.to. new site same stuff for us residents
I guess what this ultimately proves is that you can’t trust the word of the user on this site who goes by “Sabin1981″. At least Ruzteroid/Demonoiders made no speculation-as-fact statements. In their “Announcement” section anyways.
And, Ernesto’s original source has been validated to some degree.
Nice to see “The D” is back up.
I wonder why Demonoid is blocking Canadian IPs only? Could it be so that they won’t violate Canadian privacy laws when they provide logs to the record industry? Demonoid may have sold out. Watch your backs America.
Well that sucks. Here I was laughing at my friend because he couldn’t use TorrentSpy any more.
“Hooray! and God Bless America! Canada’s anthem should be changed from O! Canada to Doh! Canada!
eh?”
Canada is the reason you can even use Demonoid. And the CRIA is the association that represents your precious country in Canada.
And where do you think all of your piracy comes from?
Well I live in Canada and I just checked the site and it gave me this:
“The latest changes to the site are giving us some problems - We’ll be back soon”
So it looks like demonoid will be back up for everyone :D
[quote comment="178023"]I wonder why Demonoid is blocking Canadian IPs only? Could it be so that they won’t violate Canadian privacy laws when they provide logs to the record industry? Demonoid may have sold out. Watch your backs America.[/quote]
have you actually read the articles about this, it appears not
One More Reason we should Invade Canada………..
[quote comment="177883"][quote comment="177875"]I appreciate TorrentFraek’s news on this matter the whole past week. They were the ONLY ones who seemed to investigate this matter. Deimos the owner REFUSED — REFUSED — REFUSED to comment and no other staffers were allowed to.
In spite of that blockage, TorrentFreak got it 95% right. It was the CRIA who was responsible for Demonoid shutting down. Demonoid staffers said this was not confirmed, but refused to confirm or deny it anything else. YET IS WAS TRUE. Bunch of liars. Again they had surrogates in IRC chat lie for them that it was “hardware problems”. Hardware problems don’t take a week to solve!
We are not idiots and this is an age of global communications — blogs, cell phones, texting, email. A week of silence is unacceptable. And so is a week of lies by Demonoid. TorrentFreak got ti right. At least right enough.
Demonoid is the #2 torrent site in the world and we are expected to be concerned when it goes down. How about “We’re having some issues we can’t talk about but we’ll be back.” SOMETHING.[/quote]
How about NOT tossing around rumors? How about NOT allowing posters to assume the identity of other posters? How about NOT posting things that you DON”T KNOW FOR SURE are true? Demonoid does not owe any of you anything. Do you pay for the service? NO….quit bitching….[/quote]
If you don’t want rumors tossed around, then COMMENT for the record. If you don’t, then don’t go crying when “rumors” — WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE ESSENTIALLY TRUE, make their way to the public.
You have cell phones, e-mail, every form of communication known to man. Who was hurt by these rumors? Nobody — AND THEY WERE TRUE, if I didn’t mention it before.
@Truthsayer
Be wary of passing judgement based on nasty comments by Sabin1981 — his name was getting stolen on here yesterday and people were pretending to be him
Well, thank you torrentfreak, and fuck you Demonoid.
I’m a little puzzled as to why the Demonoid would bow down and take it in the rectum from the CRIA. Compared to the US, the legalities of downloading are pretty slim here.
“The latest changes to the site are giving us some problems - We’ll be back soon”
Thanks for the explanation and shit-faced lies Demonoid. If they’re drinking the piss of the CRIA for gods sake, it’s only a matter of time before they’re down and out for good. Way to put up a fight.
Ok, unfortunately I visited the site and saw the “We received a letter from a lawyer representing the CRIA…” message. But then refreshing it about 10 minutes after and no longer saw the canadian users blocked messge. I saw this message:
“The latest changes to the site are giving us some problems - We’ll be back soon”
I don’t know if this means that they are no longer going to block the canadian users or if they are just giving a new status to when demonoid will be back online.
Either way, as a canadian demonoid user, this TOTALLY blows goats!! I am really pissed with the CRIA it’s a huge loss for demonoid!
Please ignore my above statement.
I Eat Cocks.
[quote comment="178022"]I guess what this ultimately proves is that you can’t trust the word of the user on this site who goes by “Sabin1981″. At least Ruzteroid/Demonoiders made no speculation-as-fact statements. In their “Announcement” section anyways.
And, Ernesto’s original source has been validated to some degree.
Nice to see “The D” is back up.[/quote]
Excuse me? I stated, many times, that we would be back up. We WOULD be back online. That wasn’t speculation, it was the truth. Did we or did we not come back up?
As for the LENGTH of downtime, I still stand by my original statement - hardware. Why? Because do you really think it takes FIVE DAYS to block IPs at the server-level? I think not.
*shrugs*
I was right, you people just don’t like that. What else is new? :P
I wish everyone would stop flaming Demonoid for blocking Canada. Nobody knows exactly what was in the legal notices so NO THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD A CHOICE!!! And isn’t it better to cut off the foot to save the leg? If you live in Canada get a proxy work-around and be happy again!
if the citizens of Canada are not good enough to use the site… then why should Demonoid still be allowed to host their site in our country!
Used to have respect for the staff…. but now they need to grow some balls instead of screwing all the Canadian users who have stood by them for many a years.
Unrelated question…
Is utorrent 1.7.5 recording ip’s?
If so, what torrent client do I use now?
Thanks..
So, Ernesto has blocked me from posting in defense of our site — but allows people like the above to continue to flame and attack?
I was right from the start. Ernesto, you’re nothing but a rumour-mongering, immature, waste-of-space child. This blog isn’t informative, it’s pathetic.
My response is awaiting moderation, but I’ll bet it never gets it. Strangely enough.
limewire
My previous post was all scrambled. Too many quotes within quotes. Here’s the simple version
[quote]
How about NOT tossing around rumors? How about NOT allowing posters to assume the identity of other posters? How about NOT posting things that you DON”T KNOW FOR SURE are true? Demonoid does not owe any of you anything. Do you pay for the service? NO….quit bitching….[/quote]
If you don’t want rumors tossed around, then COMMENT for the record. If you don’t, then don’t go crying when “rumors” — WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE ESSENTIALLY TRUE, make their way to the public.
You have cell phones, e-mail, every form of communication known to man. Who was hurt by these rumors? Nobody — AND THEY WERE TRUE, if I didn’t mention it before.
Meh.
Anything like Azureus or Bittorrent.
So I take it the utorrent 1.7.5 thing is true.
Hurts to be Canadian lol
I think the real situation here that everyone needs too look at is why the hell is Deimos still hosting in Canada anyways, personally I think all torrent trackers need to look at the situation their all falling victim to these days…you all need to pack up yer shit get in touch with Brokep and set up shop @ PRQ.se
[quote comment="178036"]Please ignore my above statement.
I Eat Cocks.[/quote]
Here we go…….This Is a fine example of how trustworthy this site & this “blog” are. Just pick anyone’s username & post away…..(& no, I didn’t do It. I would have come up with something MUCH more original)
Can’t believe Demonoid not only rolled over, but took it up the ass to boot!
Check canadian law and grow a set. unblock canada, the cria is about as powerful as a toothless poodle in a dog fight. Plenty of yip, but thats about it.
okay, here is my problem not that u rushed to stick up any old crap although u did lets be fair. The problem is that Ernesto clearly actually had no confidence in his own story. when it looked like he was wrong the article starts like this “The demonoid downtime caused quite some controversy, especially after the popular Dutch news site nu.nl reported that the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) was responsible for the downtime.” however when “he” has been proven right well look at how this article starts. Blog or not this is a bit of a courage over sight on his part don’t u think? Demonoid is a great site who have acted as alway very well would have been sad to lose them!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/resc/html_bkup/june62005.html
CRIA has less power in canada than the local dog catcher….. shit, you duck and knuckle under because you got a letter from a lawyer? Oh no! Its paper! Run and hide! my word, wish i could represent you, you’d see how much power these clowns have in canada.
[quote comment="178056"]I think the real situation here that everyone needs too look at is why the hell is Deimos still hosting in Canada anyways, personally I think all torrent trackers need to look at the situation their all falling victim to these days…you all need to pack up yer shit get in touch with Brokep and set up shop @ PRQ.se[/quote]
Great Question and Agreed. I’ll quote this from you and post in their forum when they go back up.
Because ultimately, no Canadians means far less torrents which hurts everyone.
Deimos needs to stop handcuffing himself by setting up camp in gestapo territory.
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So Canadians use TPB. Everyone else can use Demonoid or TPG or Minnova or the zillion other trackers out there. Life goes on.
CRIA you achieved nothing. You’ll pitch it to your members like you did, and maybe it’ll distract them for your own sex lobbyist scandal, but at the end of the day you achieved nothing.
[quote comment="178060"]okay, here is my problem not that u rushed to stick up any old crap although u did lets be fair. The problem is that Ernesto clearly actually had no confidence in his own
story. when it looked like he was wrong the article starts like this “The demonoid downtime caused quite some controversy, especially after the popular Dutch news site nu.nl reported that the Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA) was responsible for the downtime.” however when “he” has been proven right well look at how this article starts. Blog or not this is a bit of a courage over sight on his part don’t u think? Demonoid is a great site who have acted as alway very well would have been sad to lose them![/quote]
wtf are you talking about, ernesto simply quoted a story that suggested why demonoid may be down, he didnt that he thought it was the reason, he didnt say that was the reason all he said was that he contacted both parties and they refused to comment,
the news does it all the time its called a rumour, dumass
@ TrogdorX *rolls eyes*
@ Ernesto, so basically it took what, a week to put a IP blocking system in place?
@ B-Ron, oh yeah so mature of you, its not like you paid for the service, and/or had a service contract or anything.
[quote] Unrelated question…
Is utorrent 1.7.5 recording ip’s?
If so, what torrent client do I use now?
Thanks..
[/quote]
No one has any reason to believe so.
[quote]Thanks for the explanation and shit-faced lies Demonoid. If they’re drinking the piss of the CRIA for gods sake, it’s only a matter of time before they’re down and out for good. Way to put up a fight.[/quote]
You’re an idiot, seriously.
[quote] if the citizens of Canada are not good enough to use the site… then why should Demonoid still be allowed to host their site in our country!
Used to have respect for the staff…. but now they need to grow some balls instead of screwing all the Canadian users who have stood by them for many a years.
[/quote]
[quote comment="177964"]ManofPeace go fuck yourself. It’s a discussion board If you want everyone to stop compaining, just stop reading you idiot. what are you doing here at all fool?[/quote]
Clearly, you’re a moron. I addressed the flawed bitching. “blah blah blah fuck Demonoid” when they don’t put themselves in the other person’s shoes.
I’m baaaaaack!
Well, isn’t this a turn up for the books? First Ernesto BANS the only person that had credible information (a Demonoid staff member) lol! Way to go Ernesto. You da man!
Then he backpeddles faster than biker going downhill (come on, you were kids once. You know what that is :P) by bleating on and on about “We were right! We’re CREDIBLE!! Love us! We WERE right afterall!!” (sic)
I love this site! I’ve grown to really enjoy it because it’s now my daily source of amusement!
As for the rest of you, all crying and throwing tantrums about Demonoid blocking Canadian IPs.. here’s a hint; Grow up. Proxies allow unlimited access as well as keeping Demonoid off the legal radar.
I do so love you guys! A special place in my heart exists only for you :)
The way Canadian courts have ruled on downloading cases, it’s very likely that Demonoid would have won a court case if it got that far. They probably just didn’t want to fight a battle that could have lasted years (and since Deimos doesn’t live in Canada, he’d have to fight it by proxy). We’re not even really sure how serious the threat was (The Pirate Bay gets threats like this all the time and just ignores them).
It’s also possible that their ISP caved and threatened to cut off their service.
There’s always the Pirate Bay, and I have access to a private tracker, so this isn’t a big deal for me directly. I just hate stuff like this on principle.
I’m baaaaaack!
Well, isn’t this a turn up for the books? First Ernesto BANS the only person that had credible information (a Demonoid staff member) lol! Way to go Ernesto. You da man!
Then he backpeddles faster than biker going downhill (come on, you were kids once. You know what that is :P) by bleating on and on about “We were right! We’re CREDIBLE!! Love us! We WERE right afterall!!” (sic)
I love this site! I’ve grown to really enjoy it because it’s now my daily source of amusement!
As for the rest of you, all crying and throwing tantrums about Demonoid blocking Canadian IPs.. here’s a hint; Grow up. Proxies allow unlimited access as well as keeping Demonoid off the legal radar.
I do so love you guys! A special place in my heart exists only for you :)
I use utorrent 1.6.1
[quote]The way Canadian courts have ruled on downloading cases, it’s very likely that Demonoid would have won a court case if it got that far. They probably just didn’t want to fight a battle that could have lasted years (and since Deimos doesn’t live in Canada, he’d have to fight it by proxy). We’re not even really sure how serious the threat was (The Pirate Bay gets threats like this all the time and just ignores them).
It’s also possible that their ISP caved and threatened to cut off their service.[/quote]
All posible events, we just don’t know what happened. Deimos does, so I judge that he is the only one who should make a decision like this.
[quote comment="178076"]I use utorrent 1.6.1[/quote]
yes[quote comment="178076"]I use utorrent 1.6.1[quote comment="178076"]I use utorrent 1.6.1[quote comment="178076"]I use utorrent 1.6.1[/quote]
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Surprise! Another discussion gone downhill.
Is it safe to assume that any negative depictions of Demonoid — the most sacred, fanboy-driven of all torrent trackers — are possibly doomed to degenerate into a kiddy bash of prose rhetoric and racial slurs?!
*grabs some popcorn*
I guess we’ll find out in… “Ernesto vs. the Foaming-at-the-Mouth Demonoid Digeratis: Round 3!”
:D
See, if I can access THIS site under a proxy — then YOU guys can access Demonoid under another proxy!
It’s magic!
WOW…..
I want to thank everybody
(even the haters) for the
great entertainment it was quite a ride this week..!!
It looks like demonoid is almost back and that’s all that really matters.. Rather amazing to see the huge support. The number of posts at torrentfreak and all those other sites was amazing and reminds one, ‘we are not alone….’
Best wishes to everyone and Down with the CorpoRatz…!!!
do you guys honestly think demonoid id gonna permanantly ban canadian IPs?
Come on, let Demious do his thang and get the hosting sorted properly
don’t take guff from these fools Ernesto, your story specifically stated what the information was based on. As for the headline get over it, Ernesto doesn’t sit around all day investigating the torrent news for nothing, he makes rev off this…Catchy headlines generate traffic and most in his position would do the same.
Canadian users could access the main site using a public proxy, but it’s a security risk to use your username and pass this way.
Also I think your stats won’t update. I’m sorry for you.
Fools? Ernesto’s word is “Gospel” according to Ernesto. If he can’t take criticism of his “work” then perhaps he shouldn’t be a “reporter”
Yes, you love him. Most don’t. If he actually reported something that was ACCURATE and not just rumour-mill speculation (ahem, time for mine tinfoil hat!) then he could back up his claim of being CREDIBLE.
He got lucky on ONE aspect, the CRIA had a hand in Demonoid’s downtime it appears - but to say it’s ONLY because of the CRIA? Proof please, not speculation.
annnnnnd, they’re down again, site maintenance….
why do you guys care enough to have an argument that is essentially pointless, everyone knows what happened and can decide for themselves how to feel about it, if you dislike ernesto reporting, then don’t come here…
kthxbye
I have a great solution to the problem.
It will be a very affordable VPN solution, and it will give the freedom back to the bittorrent community! :)
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Correction to my last post, the e-mail address is venom[at]darkwaternetworks[dot]com.
site is back online:
“The latest changes to the site are giving us some problems - We’ll be back soon”
I have belonged to Demoniod for years and have contributed to each every month. Its one of my favorite sites. However, they handled this very badly. The staff was uninformed and nasty to anyone asking questions. They kepts shrieking “we don’t owe you anything”! Well, sorry, you do. You owe me courtesy and a reasonable explanation of what is going on. I got neither.
The namecalling continues. Ernesto was correct, however many seem to refuse to accept that fact and the fact that members were treated badly. All private trackers need donations…I, for one, won’t be making any more to Demonoid. I don’t give my money to those who insult me.
Grow up idiots: you work for nothing and the owners of the site tell you nothing. You looked like total fools and acted like nasty 5 year olds.
Aww diddums.
Goodbye “Anonymous” (you coward. If you’re so cocksure of your intentions, why not show a bit of backbone by posting your REAL nick?)
You can take your ball and go home, we don’t need you. Demonoid doesn’t need you. You can’t threaten Demonoid with removing your donations just because YOU didn’t get the answer you wanted. Nobody owes you a goddamned thing, nobody.
Go home.
So, using 1.7.5 with the regular ipfilters, and updaters, and using PG2 will be fine?
so Lame-o-noid is back!?
For all in canada (Me included) wouldn’t Tor or JAP work?
Damnit this sucks, no more demonoid for me :( stupid fucking CRIA im sure there were a lot of canadian artist releases on there -.-
that Demonoid mob was almost as the WoW spam mob that happens on new mmorpg forums… :D
TF brought out the giant Epeen of doom and pwnt them ;)
@OblivionMage
Don’t worry, you can use proxies to access the site and tracker :) That’s what most Canadian users are having to do right now (information can be found on Ruzsteroid/Demonoiders)
Yes, I DO know it’s a pain in the ass and I DO sympathize with Canadian users. I’m not sitting here blindly masturbating all over Demonoid. I know it’s a bad situation, but all this anti-Demonoid speculation and hatred is doing nothing to HELP.
Tor works for me. Just make sure you use Firefox and download the appropriate pluggin
the problem for demonoid is the global moderator SELURNATAS aka Pete a well known anti-p2p agent who is informing on every move made by Demonoid
how can Deimos keep ahead when he is inflitrated. everyone witness his strange leaps from host to host, country to country, while no other site has the same problem
if you suck with him then you rest with him
What gets me is who would wanna download any Canadian stuff anyhow. The government forces radio and tv stations to play Canadian stuff 35% of the time anyway no matter how lousy it is.(HMM, Don’t they do this sort of thing in Iran,China and Myanmar)
If you’ve ever listened to Canadian radio, you’ll hear the guess who and tragically hip at once an hour.
ARRGGHH!!!
Are you posting in the wrong topic? This story here concerns Demonoid staff members having no credible information for the past week, lying and badmouthing a report that turned out to be true.
My 3yo niece appears to have much credible information as you do pal.
Except he hasn’t actually backpeddled once. He reported what he did and stuck by it here and on those IRC conversations as the only information available, while you were talking BS about hardware failures. So who’s backpeddling here ?
Which he can, because his report was credible. Unlike you and yours, chump.
@h33t
LOL! More rumour-mongering? The one thing that always sets you people apart … is that you run your mouth at every opportunity, yet never provide any proof!
[quote comment="178124"]the problem for demonoid is the global moderator SELURNATAS aka Pete a well known anti-p2p agent who is informing on every move made by Demonoid
how can Deimos keep ahead when he is inflitrated. everyone witness his strange leaps from host to host, country to country, while no other site has the same problem
if you suck with him then you rest with him[/quote]
shut-up ur full of crap & take off ur tinfoil hat!