Despite Arrests MovieX BitTorrent Tracker Back Online
Written by enigmax on December 05, 2008Just over a day since the MovieX BitTorrent tracker disappeared following the arrest of two admins, the 400,000 member site has returned. A remaining admin is adamant that TorrentFreak completely fabricated the story and that the brothers who ran the site weren’t arrested. All the indications point to the opposite being true.
According to the Australian Federal Police, two Brisbane men from the same family, a 21 year-old and a 27 year-old, were arrested two days ago. The site they founded and administered was MovieX.info, although one of the remaining administrators Dev0 claims that TorrentFreak and many other news outlets completely fabricated the story, claiming a simple hard drive failure.
Of course, TorrentFreak previously sent emails to the founders giving them ample opportunity to deny the allegations, but we have had absolutely no response.
Yesterday it became apparent that despite the site going offline, the domain name of MovieX.info wasn’t controlled by either of the arrested pair, making a return of the site likely. Indeed, although the arrests of the brothers caused a knee-jerk takedown of the site, in the AFACT (Australian Federation Against Copyright Theft) press release they took care not to mention the name of the site, probably mindful of the likelihood it would reappear. Today, that’s exactly what has happened.
Just a couple of hours ago the MovieX holding page disappeared to be replaced with an apparently-intact site. Over time, the site got more and more busy and now there are many people back on the site, although some users are reporting that although the forum is functional, the tracker isn’t, but it’s early days. No doubt it will be fully functional soon.
Despite users on the site asking for one, there is currently no official message explaining the reasons for the downtime, but ®ama’s user account profile has been edited to remove statistics related to the material he personally contributed to the site. His location, Brisbane, and his actual date of birth remain, as does his original profile in Google’s cache. Indeed, none of this information is a secret, anyone can access it. He is the 27 year-old mentioned by the police.
When questioned about ®ama and his whereabouts and the lack of information by a VIP user, one admin said: “What I am saying is that whoever the person or persons are who have been arrested, [it's] none of my business.”
MovieX offered a VIP area where users could download material directly rather than use the site’s tracker. Much was made by AFACT of this section, claiming that the site generated revenue by charging users to access it. Since the site returned, some users are reporting that the section is inaccessible, although it is unclear if this is the case for all everyone.
Whereas with the OiNK raid, police took the time to completely neutralize the site by arresting the admin, seizing the domain name and confiscating the servers, Australian police did a much less comprehensive job. As a result, MovieX is back online with more publicity than ever before.
It remains to be seen if the news outlets that reported its demise will be just as quick to report that it’s back in business, but back it is, and despite uncertainty in other areas (such is the ‘fog’ of BitTorrent) there can be no doubt about that.
Update: (03:09 PM) dev0 [admin] “Tracker is now back online”
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83 Responses
Anyone who still visits the site after all this deserves to be ass-raped in copyright jail. I even used a proxy just to check out that static page. Most likeliest thing to have happened is that they struck a deal with the AFAGS and now are luring peers back onto a logged site. Then you can take down as many rats as the sinking ship will hold.
No thanks … I can get all the same stuff truly free from other places.
I’m surprised that anyone is able to run an internationally known bit torrent tracker from Australia. All our internet connections have download limits of less than 100gb per month with some even being only 200mb per month and our anti piracy laws are pretty harsh. I wish those arrested good luck and hopefully they will be alright.
@Aussie: If you had read the article or the police statement therefore you probably would have noticed the word “offshore” …
The server wasn’t hosted in Australia. Probably because of the reasons you mentioned.
Imho it serves them right to be apprehended when they host direct download stuff.
The only way Bittorrent sites are untouchable is when they only link to and not host any copyrighted information.
Also, that the 3de admin is denying that the site got raided supports the suspicion that that site now is more then likely a logged rattrap.
Uhhh are you stupid? They don’t host direct download stuff, they upload or link to the direct download on RS or MS.
VIP is just getting access to all those links.
r0ck, nothing is free.
If you get what you want free, you are a fking criminal. You should be arrested first before the admins.
All sites require servers to run and host thousands of members, you get that fker? yea, if you do then it’s good your brain still works.
If there is no providing of funds for servers, you expect the admins to pay off $1000+ a month and let you download everything with pleasure? You better donate your ***
What good would it do if it was a rat trap? Sure they would get the regular users who have to keep their ratios up, but what about the VIP people who can just download as much shit as they want with no way to track it to them?
I guess in this case there are far more “regular” users, but still since it’s mostly what they were paid for what they seem to have got into trouble with that seems unlikely.
I was on the fourms there just a bit ago and it seems to be confirmed that they were arrested, but it seems alot of users there are still in denial. Oh well, we will see.
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Well Rama has already been posting in the shoutbox over there they have going.
sounds like a honey Pot. I’ll pass.
If it was a hoax, it was a well played one.
Man, this sucks. I got some good speeds there (on torrents, never did a direct DL) most times.
Sigh…back to Demonoid.
@2 Aussie : you are an uninformed idiot who doesn’t know jackshit about Au ISPs let alone how to get yourself sorted out.
A small sample of ISPs that have more than 100GB /month:
Exetel: 120 GB
iPrimus: 200 GB
TPG: 200 GB
iiNet: 150 GB
These are ADSL2+ plans, if you settle for ADSL you can get unlimited data plans – 300 GB is quite possible with these; not using BT, but with something such as FTP or Usenet that utilises all your bandwidth constantly. Really, get a clue before you start spouting crap about things you know nothing about.
Also people may be interested to know that the AFP (Federal police) have stated publicly that they will never prosecute individual filesharers. I wouldn’t count on this but there you go. It would be an international precedent if (non-uploaders of content) were prosecuted anyway.
Anyone wishing to use MovieX only has to enter an anonymous proxy into their client and the MovieX site won’t be able to record their real IP anyway.
i’m going to go with the internet classic meme.
“It’s a trap”
@2
Indeed, I heard that they just passed an even worse copyright law recently. Whatever the case, it seems that this is not a “proper tracker.” The existence of the VIP section is agreed upon by everyone – that much is known, and that is enough to know that this is not a good “torrent site.”
Roze
http://www.10ch.org/
How can an Australian Federal Officials can raid servers in the Netherland?
If it was an international bust, all the admins will have gotten busted as well.
You can make all assumptions as you like but keep them to yourselves.
Publicity
it’s not a trap, it will be illegal the cops up the site just to get inocent user’s ip, by the love of god…
THE SERVER IS HOSTED IN NETHERLANDS, HOW THE AUSSIE COPFAGS COULD ACT IN ANOTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY? HUH
A simple lookup:
http://whois.domaintools.com/moviex.info
Server Type: nginx/0.7.3
IP Address: 93.174.93.250
IP Location – Netherlands – As29073 Ecatel Ltd
Response Code: 200
Domain Status: Registered And Active Website
Roze
@15 : Roze said: “The existence of the VIP section is agreed upon by everyone – that much is known, and that is enough to know that this is not a good “torrent site.”
Everyone … oh wait, you forgot about the people who are paying money for this service.
With your warped view of the world you fail to see that this is a DONATION – completely voluntary and doesn’t effect the operation of non-paying torrent users. Actually it’s an innovative way to offer donators faster downloads and keep the site alive.
But of course, as you have no idea of the cost of bandwidth and hardware, you expect servers operate for nothing, be constantly online and provide fast connections – for nothing. I operate a 50,000 user private tracker (pretome) – your talking $1000 USD a month minimum for us to operate, so you work it out.
Get a clue mate, you live in a fantasy world. With your attitude I bet you never donate either, not that you’d use any decent trackers or know what one was.
You are more of a criminal, because by donating you support the commercial side of pirated content. This is the thing every self-respected pirate and/or scener hates.
its great news. its the best site on the web.
@18 “THE SERVER IS HOSTED IN NETHERLANDS, HOW THE AUSSIE COPFAGS COULD ACT IN ANOTHER FOREIGN COUNTRY? HUH”
If you had one iota of brain cells you’d realise that the operators are in Australia and that’s where the police acted.
So many people here get over-excited and emotional and start spouting garbage about subjects they know almost nothing about. Seriously, many people appear to not even read the articles beyond the titles.
@20
If that is how it shall be, would it not be best to make the finances public, so that there are no suspicions? After all, it would be best to make it as transparent as possible, wouldn’t it? Unfortunately, as far as I know, everything is opqaue.
Roze
@20 : “You are more of a criminal, because by donating you support the commercial side of pirated content. This is the thing every self-respected pirate and/or scener hates.”
Another completely clueless person pretending they have knowledge of the scene and BT. Anyone in the scene knows that the vast majority of FTP topsites are supported partly or entirely by pay to leech accounts – and that every tracker without advertisements of any size is supported by donations.
Fantasy world again: you seem to think that servers and hardware cost nothing and are magically provided. Please stop trying to impress anonymous people by talking crap about “the scene”. You are obviously not a part of it.
@24 : Roze said: “If that is how it shall be, would it not be best to make the finances public, so that there are no suspicions? After all, it would be best to make it as transparent as possible, wouldn’t it? Unfortunately, as far as I know, everything is opqaue.”
This is an issue that has been discussed a lot at many places, with the conclusion being it’s generally not a good idea – you need to take more than the server costs to cover months where you do not get enough donations so people accuse you of making a profit – which happens some places, but it goes to people who worked hard to set the site up, people argue over how much the costs actually are, people argue about saving up for future investments. It just turns into a complete mess my friend.
In any case, nobody would know if the figures provided were real.
@26
If the accuracy of the issues is a big deal, then perhaps the finances ought to be handled in a way such that all of it is accounted for. Non-profit organizations account for all of its finances all the time – there is no reason why a small website like moviex.info cannot.
Roze
Yeah, i’m no part of The Scene anymore. I was back in the BBS days. And yeah, back then most people did anything with $$$ on their eyes. I was referring to self-respected people. And believe me, there’s still few of them in nowadays Scene. Because, sorry to say, but my younger brother is at couple of TopSites:> and i know how are things there.
It’s a big BS today, yeah! Fuckers who donate something can get axx, just look at these retarded pre-chan kiddos. They think they’re funny.
SceneTorrents – rings any bells? The admins there bought a pretty awesome PCs with the donation cash they got; they even swagged about it in the forums.
So, my man, claiming to know exactly how much server renting costs – get the facts yourself;)
Hahaha all you shit talkers who thought we wouldn’t come back.. now we probably have more users sign up because of all the attention you guys created. =]
hahaha Denny, I hope you dirty leeches enjoy the fast seeds you get from the public swarm. That’s right, don’t think we forgot that moviex STEALS bandwidth.
Pay 2 leech is bad, simple as that, half of the major scene busts were the result of someone from the mpaa or riaa or the various companies doing their bidding, buying their way into the site, sitting there for months logging it and then blamo.
And for the record, these guys will upload pirated content to get access, and will also host actual pirated torrents to nail people in the swarm.
If this was any other standard torrent site I’d be sad. This is movieX a dirty leech site stealing seeding b/w from public swarms.
Everyone make sure you remove the movieX tracker from any torrents you grab, there’s no need for them to make money off your bandwidth.
@6: Haha, love you too. :x
@Phishybongwaters
They don’t make money out of torrents you freaking twerp. The VIP section is for Direct Downloads through Rapid Shares and Megashares, where they provide premium accounts for the members and trusted and tested links.
“Fantasy world again: you seem to think that servers and hardware cost nothing and are magically provided. ”
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Fantasy world again: you seem to think that MOVIES cost nothing and are magically provided…
“That’s right, don’t think we forgot that moviex STEALS bandwidth.”
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Not stealing, SHARING. bandwidth wants to be free and pirate bay shouldn’t be so greedy with its bandwidth.
Idiots.
@Phishybongwaters
You dumb shit i don’t even use torrents, shows how much you know. How can you even speak if you’ve never even been a member of the site? You say MovieX leeches off the public but where is this “proof” ? Honestly if EVERYONE was to donate to MovieX we would all be using direct downloads and not torrents. What makes you think i want to leech off your slow ass connection? When i can download as fast as my internet goes.
I decide where my money goes, not you. No one is telling you how to spend your money.
You know what? When i get the chance I’m going to donate $50. Why you ask? BECAUSE I CAN.
@29 : Phishybongwaters said: “Pay 2 leech is bad, simple as that, half of the major scene busts were the result of someone from the mpaa or riaa or the various companies doing their bidding, buying their way into the site, sitting there for months logging it and then blamo.”
Once again a total ignoramus pretending to know how the scene operates.
Pay2leech accounts are a major source of funding for MANY, MANY large topsite in existence you twat. Please outline to us three things regarding your post:
1. How are pay2leech accounts allowing logging when they are not administrator accounts and logging is explicitly not used by the admins. You sound like you have never used an FTP site before let alone know anything about logging.
2. No scene busts to date have been as a result of pay2leech accounts: please give us examples of this because I do not know of even one case.
3. For some reason your assuming that pay2leech accounts are given out to people on an adhoc basis. Pay2leech is just as hard to get as any other method of accessing topsites, people are vetted and must be trusted. You then make the stupid satement that authorities will upload content anyway: in that case, WHY WOULD THEY BOTHER WITH PAY2LEECH seeing as they could become a ratio account?
You sound like a typical public tracker user except your trying to impress anonymous people with your supposed knowledge. Which makes no sense. People who smoke a lot of cannabis often do this. And also completely miss the fact that people will pick their statements to pieces because they’re full of it.
The saddest thing about these clueless know nothings raving about donations being bad and “against piracy and sceners” is that the donators are giving their cash to support others on a voluntary basis. They talk about sharing as well, LOL … donators give cash while these douchebags rave about how they share their internet connection.
Please stick to public trackers and leave us alone on private trackers: your unrealistic views are not wanted.
Of course, not a word about public trackers selling merchandise or supporting porn sites and questionable dating sites through advertising. It’s all about some completely misguided view that “piracy should cost nothing” when the reality that it requires infrastructure is staring them in the face.
@35 Diji1
Although piracy may not cost nothing, it should profit nothing. If there is a net gain, then it should be left aside for the purposes of the website than for personal profit. The way to ensure that is for all finances to be handled by a third party.
Roze
I think “Borley” is a moviex fanatic…. or the most likely scenario is he is one of the admins or mods. Why else would he completely flame everyone who badmouths the site?
We pirates are swimming in shit… If your gonna take part get used to it… Every so often a nice chunk comes by and we go into leech mode… We all have our reasons for what we do some good some no so good… Deny all you want but it won’t make the stink go away.. Painting shit a different color can only be done to deceive… shit is shit… There is NO honor amongst thieves…. that’s just the way it is…. anyone try’n to pretend otherwise is a fool or has n agenda….
I’d just like to thank torrentfreak for the link to moviex and all the info… I’ve been looking for a site like this for ages.
@39
Fact: no, people who do p2p are normal folk. Normal folk have honour. P2p people are not thieves. Get your facts straight.
Roze
Sigh. What is it with you people? As youll soon see, the site will once again be taken down, as the 3rd (and final) admin will be arrested within a few days. Are you really dumb enough to think that after police have arrested two of the admins, theyll just sit back and let the third bring the site back online? As soon as he slips, theyll attack, and the site will be down forever until you can convince The Pirate Bay to host it for you, which considering you were stealing from them to start with, isnt likely.
It also seems you had about 400,000 members before, and since this story you now have 401,889. Thats only about 2,000(ish) new members, so dont bother thinking that this was a successful advertising plot, as it failed terribly. When The Pirate bay went down after their raid, and was back up within a few days completly, now that brought members, many millions of members. And, notice that they have yet to leave to head down to your site. The fact remains, above all of this, The Pirate Bay is a better tracker, and this site will be down in a few days, so enjoy it while you can.
For the sake of the members who only joined and use the site the same as members of any other tracker,I hope all goes well with this. In my opinion profiting from file sharing is 100% wrong. I’m sure theres some truths to this story. Sounds to bizarre to all be elaborated.
Either way, I’m steering clear of MovieX…if there has been a bust & it’s back online, there’s some chance of it being a honeytrap, which I can do without. If it’s all still legit – eh, there are enough sites to find anything I want, and the leeching from TPB trackers without seeding back is kinda contemptible.
Guys stop getting so damn emotional!!!!!
Donating to keep a serving going is good I think, people behind a lot of these trackers put a shit load of their effort and time into them, that we give them a hand in paying for server costs should really be no big deal.
F*ck MovieX and their bullshit leech tracker.
i lve Movie X
is this a safe site to downlode?
Lets talk about the article.
@28 : “SceneTorrents – rings any bells? The admins there bought a pretty awesome PCs with the donation cash they got; they even swagged about it in the forums.”
So what? At least they told people about it. Just because your brother has access doesn’t mean you know shit. Just because you don’t know people that have pay 2 leech accounts and I do doesn’t mean they don’t exist. To have access, everybody contributes something you stupid retard. Just for your infomation: would you like to know how Scenetorrents grabs content so fast after it pres? The site has at least one PAY 2 LEECH account that some uploaders use. Your douchebag.
So, my man, claiming to know exactly how much server renting costs – get the facts yourself;)
OK, you’re an idiot. Nowhere did I claim that I know how much servers cost except my own tracker.
You stop making up crap and putting “facts” into my mouth.
I still don’t see anybody whinging about any public trackers, the largest of which must be making at least a few tens of thousands a year.
@38 : itsoverninethousand said: “I think “Borley” is a moviex fanatic…. or the most likely scenario is he is one of the admins or mods. Why else would he completely flame everyone who badmouths the site?”
Poeple who are members at Funfile or Pretome know who I am. I’m flaming people because it pisses me off that public tracker users for the most part (my guess) talk crap about how piracy should be free and non-profit when their own beloved Pirate Bay and others are making thousands per year from advertising and merchandise sales. This is never mentioned and instead they talk crap about topsite servers which they know nothing about.
Using donations to cover costs is fine, they have to pay for those server costs somehow. But making a profit from it is just wrong and a lot of sites are in it to make money. With a lot of them clearing $1000’s a month, even small ones can clear $500-$1000 a month profit.
But since most people running the sites are dodgy already, why wouldn’t they try and make money from it.
So…
Administrators of these sites should spend a hundred hours or more a month running their sites, as much time or more as a full time job, and not be able to make any profit? I call bullshit. Or do you expect them to work all day at a damned gas station for minimum wage and then stay up all night solving everyone’s fucking problems?
Get a clue and join the real world, you twats.
Just my piece of cake.. Stay away from anything that could even remotely have the possibility of being busted.
Notice how borely keeps sidestepping the issue of MovieX stealing bandwidth from leechers? And to the idiot who said “Where’s the proof?”, the proof is easily found in loder’s and other MovieX torrents found around the net. Take a look at the tracker list in the torrent. The MovieX tracker only allows you to seed. You can’t leech anything from them. Just remove the MovieX tracker before starting the torrent. Why should you waste upload bandwidth on assholes tryin to increase speeds for their members by allowing you to seed but not leech. As far as I’m concerned, MovieX is just reaping the Karma they brought upon themselves.
@ScT using pay2leech accounts – Old news.
@sites accepting donations – Now here borley and I are in complete agreement. I never stop being amazed at the so-called “torrent purists” who feel any financial interaction is anti-sharing. Do you really believe that servers and bandwidth just magically appear? Or is it that your bizarre sense of entitlement requires tracker operators to just pay it out of pocket themselves so that you can have a free ride while patting yourself on the back that you don’t pay penny one towards keeping the torrent community alive. Get real! Your ISP doesn’t give you free internet access and bandwidth. They charge you for it. Why does it not sink into your heads that the same applies to torrent sites?
Dude, I’m not sidestepping ths issue of MovieX using TPB trackers – but I could care less. I never use public trackers, I’ve never used MovieX either. I dont really have an opinion on MovieX stealing bandwidth other than that’s what happens when you make trackers completely open – this can happen.
What does it matter?
Sorry borley, I meant the person that was denying that MovieX used seed only torrents to benefit their members, not you. And it doesn’t matter.
What does matter is why some people keep yelling foul because a tracker solicits/accepts donations to help pay for the costs of running said tracker.
meh moviex is good and fast.
ernesto is profiting from this news, so what?
you dont have to donate to use moviex. it’s a good site even to regular members, all you have to do is keep a 1:1 ratio and most of the time the download is fast.
I don’t use MovieX.info but I did join several months ago to check it out. As far as I can tell someone who donates gets access to faster speeds, not content that no one else can access. If the money they make from donations actually goes into running the site and they’re not profiting, a good lawyer may be able to get these guys off the hook.
As for the issue of MovieX leeching from Pirate Bay users, there is a simple test anyone can do. Download a torrent file that includes both The Pirate Bay and MovieX trackers and remove The Pirate Bay. If you’re able to download using only the MovieX tracker then they’re obviously not leeching.
Considering the service that Torrent sites provide, their owners deserve to profit as long as it comes from donations and/or advertising clicks.
The irony of saying that voluntarily sharing a little bit of your money with Torrent site admins is somehow anti-sharing, is astounding.
People, get a grip.
If anakata can afford an extra sandwhich because The Pirate Bay made more than enough money to cover its server costs and actually turned a profit this month, that doesn’t make him Satan incarnate.
@53:
“Administrators of these sites should spend a hundred hours or more a month running their sites, as much time or more as a full time job, and not be able to make any profit? I call bullshit. Or do you expect them to work all day at a damned gas station for minimum wage and then stay up all night solving everyone’s fucking problems?”
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FIXED: Artists behind these works should spend a hundred hours or more a month creating movies, as much time ore more than a full time job, and not be able to make any profit? I call bullshit. Or do you expect them to work all day at a damned gas station and then stay up all night creating everyone else’s fucking entertainment?
Heres an idea! Cut off the donations once the amount required for hosting is covered…. is that so hard? You should NOT make a profit off of other peoples work, and yes, downloading from bittorrent should be free, but you should also donate to keep the server going.
I download from demonoid almost exclusivly (unless i can’t find it, then TPB), and i donate to demonoid. $5/month. But i don’t feel obligated, nor do i “Pay2Leech”. My ratio is 3.3, and raising. I seed for 24 hours at 300kbps. In utorrent, i have seeding as a higher priority then downloading.
A majority of the posters on these forums are know-it-all assholes. What’s with the attitudes?
Anyway, too bad for the administrators… it’s never welcomed to see normal people doing what everyone else is doing get pinched. Good luck to them and hopefully the charges are dropped.
If you don’t like the laws the way they are… DON”T BiTCH… Do some thing positive…. Help change the laws and make them serve the people….
@ 63
That is a perfectly valid point of view, and I actually agree with you there. The argument that I am making, in the narrow confines of the issue of donations for a torrent site, is that most of these people spend a lot of time administrating these websites, and to expect them to do so with absolutely no compensation is unreasonable. As far as the issue of piracy goes, I steal because I am a cheap asshole, as do most pirates. I am fortunate enough to have a large amount of disposable income due to a relatively high paying job, and no wife and kids. I can generally afford to buy what I want, and often will buy games and movies that I like, but most of the time I filch this stuff because I am cheap.
This bullshit that everyone tries to feed each other about the ‘freedom of information’ and ’sharing’ is a complete load. Sugar coat it as you may, you all steal for the same reason as I do, because you like free shit.
Also, don’t give me the excuse that you would buy it if you had the money. If you can’t afford to buy it, you can do like most people. You can fucking go without it. Games, movies, and music are not necessities.
“Artists behind these works should spend a hundred hours or more a month creating movies, as much time ore more than a full time job, and not be able to make any profit?”
Please. You may live in Fantasy Land, but the rest of us prescribe to reality.
You know what reality is, don’t you?
It’s that place where the movie industry keeps making greater and greater revenues despite the meteoric rise of filesharing.
You should take a step outside your bubble and come visit us sometime. I’m sure it would be enlightening for you.
i basically started on (semi)priv sites because of moviex the only people that think they steal bandwith are the people that have NO IDEA how BT works guess what the UPLOADER is a moviex SEEDBOX so how are they stealing bandwith?
the VIP area had nothing to do with BT and was all direct downloads from RS with premium accounts and even the free users had a direct link section aswell
running servers/trackers costs ALOT and some months donations dont cover those costs so the months that they make a lil more evens out those months theres NOTHING wrong with that oh and dont forget they also needed to have ALOT of RS accounts aswell but i guess they should pay for all of that out of there own pocket
i hardly ever use moviex anymore but its one of the most misunderstood gutsy trackers there is
borley def isnt someone from moviex im a member on funfile and pretome and no you cant get a invite and hes just like me gets pissed off when people say shit about something they know NOTHING about just to try to impress some leech
but i guess all priv trackers should all just try to get all the add revenue that TPB makes oh shit wait a sec we cant because unlike you where u could be sharing with anyone we have a community
I think moviex deserves this. they are homos
“It’s that place where the movie industry keeps making greater and greater revenues despite the meteoric rise of filesharing.”
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just because they’re making a profit doesn’t mean file stealing isn’t reducing profit.
but i do think that file stealing has a negligible effect right now. however, once bigger hard drives become standard and more and more catch on to torrents, if nothing is done, it could conceivably cripple the industry which could conceivably lead to a future where you pseudo robin hoods will nothing new to “share”.
you’re not innocent.
“i basically started on (semi)priv sites because of moviex the only people that think they steal bandwith are the people that have NO IDEA how BT works guess what the UPLOADER is a moviex SEEDBOX so how are they stealing bandwith?”
Do you want it explained to you?
TPB users can only seed to MovieX users. TPB users cannot download from MovieX users.
@71
do you want it explained to you??
moviex UPLOADED the torrent to TPB with a guest account to there tracker aswell and since loder was one of the biggest and best uploaders on TPB and prob one of the only people on there using a seedbox with ALOT of bandwith and lets YOU LEECH from it untill that torrent is dead your basically the ones using moviex bandwith and not the other way around lol why would we care about your crappy 4-5kps/s when the seedbox is ALOT faster than that and it wouldnt even make a diff
and also they have never been invite only they have never told anyone they HAVE to pay 2 join and adding there tracker was basically just advertising but if you wanted faster speeds sign up with them and use there tracker 2
For all those saying ‘honeypot’, you’re aware that entrapment is illegal right?
@73
The ‘Entrapment’ defense is generally only valid if the law enforcement agency has coaxed you to do something that you normally wouldn’t have. If they simply act as a facilitator for an illegal act that you would have performed anyway, that particular defense is often thrown out.
For example, a police officer randomly approaches you on the street and says ‘Hey, you interested in some cocaine and some anal sex?’, then you can make an argument for entrapment. However, if you go looking for the undercover officer because you want some cocaine and anal sex, then the entrapment defense generally will not be valid. See the parallel?
By using a website of that particular nature you are essentially proving that you were ‘in the market’ for copyrighted materials, and the law enforcement agency involved (if there is indeed one) is simply facilitating a transfer that you would have performed anyway, even had they not been involved.
The second point to be made is that, unless you can afford an attorney that is of a high enough caliber to successfully defend you in a case such as this, a federal judge generally does not give two shits about how you arrived in his courtroom or what methods were used to get you there. Your overworked public defender is not going to be of much help, if that is what you are relegated to using.
I could point you to the relevant federal statutes on entrapment, as well as examples from the two states that I am familiar with, but let me boil it down for you. The jails in America are full of people who ended a sentence, at some point in their lives, with the words ‘you’re aware that entrapment is illegal, right?’ Usually it is said at some point during the arraignment process, but occasionally it is uttered during the plea bargain process as well…
Pharaoh you do realise that entrapment requires the police to actually put up the site, this is done by one of their friends, if they were to confiscate the servers or obtain the logs it is not entrapment
THE SITE IS OFFLINE NOW LOL
“why would we care about your crappy 4-5kps/s ”
If you didn’t care you would either a> keep the torrent private, or b> use TPB as the only tracker.
anyone notice that now they changed his birthdate to being dec 1977?
so changing his age to 31?
im sorry all im a moviex fan but this all adds up, they were busted.
why would they try to cover it up so much?
just 2 days ago i checked ramas profile and it said 27 just like this story, now it says 31.
i understand they want to save the site and want to keep any revenue stream coming and if they said ya rama was busted so and so it would really hurt the numbers as it would freak out some people.
im sure you can find his cached profile on google or something and see his age was changed.
i beleve the rama account is used by more than 1 person and that 2 people arrested may have to pay tax on earnings undeclaired. But this is not set in stone
“anyone notice that now they changed his birthdate to being dec 1977?
so changing his age to 31?”
Maybe he just didn’t realise how old he was :)
I don’t think that this site is a trap cause one of the admins “Anonymous” has and is still uploading and seeding new torrents every day. The number of seeds has decreased dramatically but I’m sure once this thing is straightened out, it’ll be a fully functional site. Also the VIP has been down because they are upgrading their VIP system and getting some new Netload accounts.
Well, the user “Anonymous” is nothing more than a bunch of hacked bbb’s and other links around the world. This can be easily found out by looking at Anonymous’s posts, it’s obviously a bot, and every single IP address from this one user (connect where he’s the only seeder and see for yourself) is a different IP in a different part of the world… It was only a matter of time before they got busted.
we still have over 9000 active users .
Taken from the MX staff forums
Appearantly it was just a mention like some of you have said.
We won’t know anything until February. sad.gif
He’s being charged with copyright btw…
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