Appearantly it was just a mention like some of you have said.
We won’t know anything until February. sad.gif

He’s being charged with copyright btw…

Maybe he just didn’t realise how old he was :)

im sorry all im a moviex fan but this all adds up, they were busted.

why would they try to cover it up so much?
just 2 days ago i checked ramas profile and it said 27 just like this story, now it says 31.

i understand they want to save the site and want to keep any revenue stream coming and if they said ya rama was busted so and so it would really hurt the numbers as it would freak out some people.

im sure you can find his cached profile on google or something and see his age was changed.

If you didn’t care you would either a> keep the torrent private, or b> use TPB as the only tracker.

The ‘Entrapment’ defense is generally only valid if the law enforcement agency has coaxed you to do something that you normally wouldn’t have. If they simply act as a facilitator for an illegal act that you would have performed anyway, that particular defense is often thrown out.

For example, a police officer randomly approaches you on the street and says ‘Hey, you interested in some cocaine and some anal sex?’, then you can make an argument for entrapment. However, if you go looking for the undercover officer because you want some cocaine and anal sex, then the entrapment defense generally will not be valid. See the parallel?

By using a website of that particular nature you are essentially proving that you were ‘in the market’ for copyrighted materials, and the law enforcement agency involved (if there is indeed one) is simply facilitating a transfer that you would have performed anyway, even had they not been involved.

The second point to be made is that, unless you can afford an attorney that is of a high enough caliber to successfully defend you in a case such as this, a federal judge generally does not give two shits about how you arrived in his courtroom or what methods were used to get you there. Your overworked public defender is not going to be of much help, if that is what you are relegated to using.

I could point you to the relevant federal statutes on entrapment, as well as examples from the two states that I am familiar with, but let me boil it down for you. The jails in America are full of people who ended a sentence, at some point in their lives, with the words ‘you’re aware that entrapment is illegal, right?’ Usually it is said at some point during the arraignment process, but occasionally it is uttered during the plea bargain process as well…

do you want it explained to you??

moviex UPLOADED the torrent to TPB with a guest account to there tracker aswell and since loder was one of the biggest and best uploaders on TPB and prob one of the only people on there using a seedbox with ALOT of bandwith and lets YOU LEECH from it untill that torrent is dead your basically the ones using moviex bandwith and not the other way around lol why would we care about your crappy 4-5kps/s when the seedbox is ALOT faster than that and it wouldnt even make a diff

and also they have never been invite only they have never told anyone they HAVE to pay 2 join and adding there tracker was basically just advertising but if you wanted faster speeds sign up with them and use there tracker 2

Do you want it explained to you?

TPB users can only seed to MovieX users. TPB users cannot download from MovieX users.

just because they’re making a profit doesn’t mean file stealing isn’t reducing profit.

but i do think that file stealing has a negligible effect right now. however, once bigger hard drives become standard and more and more catch on to torrents, if nothing is done, it could conceivably cripple the industry which could conceivably lead to a future where you pseudo robin hoods will nothing new to “share”.

you’re not innocent.

the VIP area had nothing to do with BT and was all direct downloads from RS with premium accounts and even the free users had a direct link section aswell

running servers/trackers costs ALOT and some months donations dont cover those costs so the months that they make a lil more evens out those months theres NOTHING wrong with that oh and dont forget they also needed to have ALOT of RS accounts aswell but i guess they should pay for all of that out of there own pocket

i hardly ever use moviex anymore but its one of the most misunderstood gutsy trackers there is

borley def isnt someone from moviex im a member on funfile and pretome and no you cant get a invite and hes just like me gets pissed off when people say shit about something they know NOTHING about just to try to impress some leech

but i guess all priv trackers should all just try to get all the add revenue that TPB makes oh shit wait a sec we cant because unlike you where u could be sharing with anyone we have a community

Please. You may live in Fantasy Land, but the rest of us prescribe to reality.

You know what reality is, don’t you?

It’s that place where the movie industry keeps making greater and greater revenues despite the meteoric rise of filesharing.

You should take a step outside your bubble and come visit us sometime. I’m sure it would be enlightening for you.

That is a perfectly valid point of view, and I actually agree with you there. The argument that I am making, in the narrow confines of the issue of donations for a torrent site, is that most of these people spend a lot of time administrating these websites, and to expect them to do so with absolutely no compensation is unreasonable. As far as the issue of piracy goes, I steal because I am a cheap asshole, as do most pirates. I am fortunate enough to have a large amount of disposable income due to a relatively high paying job, and no wife and kids. I can generally afford to buy what I want, and often will buy games and movies that I like, but most of the time I filch this stuff because I am cheap.

This bullshit that everyone tries to feed each other about the ‘freedom of information’ and ‘sharing’ is a complete load. Sugar coat it as you may, you all steal for the same reason as I do, because you like free shit.

Also, don’t give me the excuse that you would buy it if you had the money. If you can’t afford to buy it, you can do like most people. You can fucking go without it. Games, movies, and music are not necessities.

Anyway, too bad for the administrators… it’s never welcomed to see normal people doing what everyone else is doing get pinched. Good luck to them and hopefully the charges are dropped.

I download from demonoid almost exclusivly (unless i can’t find it, then TPB), and i donate to demonoid. $5/month. But i don’t feel obligated, nor do i “Pay2Leech”. My ratio is 3.3, and raising. I seed for 24 hours at 300kbps. In utorrent, i have seeding as a higher priority then downloading.

“Administrators of these sites should spend a hundred hours or more a month running their sites, as much time or more as a full time job, and not be able to make any profit? I call bullshit. Or do you expect them to work all day at a damned gas station for minimum wage and then stay up all night solving everyone’s fucking problems?”
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FIXED: Artists behind these works should spend a hundred hours or more a month creating movies, as much time ore more than a full time job, and not be able to make any profit? I call bullshit. Or do you expect them to work all day at a damned gas station and then stay up all night creating everyone else’s fucking entertainment?

The irony of saying that voluntarily sharing a little bit of your money with Torrent site admins is somehow anti-sharing, is astounding.

People, get a grip.

If anakata can afford an extra sandwhich because The Pirate Bay made more than enough money to cover its server costs and actually turned a profit this month, that doesn’t make him Satan incarnate.

As for the issue of MovieX leeching from Pirate Bay users, there is a simple test anyone can do. Download a torrent file that includes both The Pirate Bay and MovieX trackers and remove The Pirate Bay. If you’re able to download using only the MovieX tracker then they’re obviously not leeching.

you dont have to donate to use moviex. it’s a good site even to regular members, all you have to do is keep a 1:1 ratio and most of the time the download is fast.

What does matter is why some people keep yelling foul because a tracker solicits/accepts donations to help pay for the costs of running said tracker.

What does it matter?

@ScT using pay2leech accounts – Old news.

@sites accepting donations – Now here borley and I are in complete agreement. I never stop being amazed at the so-called “torrent purists” who feel any financial interaction is anti-sharing. Do you really believe that servers and bandwidth just magically appear? Or is it that your bizarre sense of entitlement requires tracker operators to just pay it out of pocket themselves so that you can have a free ride while patting yourself on the back that you don’t pay penny one towards keeping the torrent community alive. Get real! Your ISP doesn’t give you free internet access and bandwidth. They charge you for it. Why does it not sink into your heads that the same applies to torrent sites?

Administrators of these sites should spend a hundred hours or more a month running their sites, as much time or more as a full time job, and not be able to make any profit? I call bullshit. Or do you expect them to work all day at a damned gas station for minimum wage and then stay up all night solving everyone’s fucking problems?

Get a clue and join the real world, you twats.

But since most people running the sites are dodgy already, why wouldn’t they try and make money from it.

So what? At least they told people about it. Just because your brother has access doesn’t mean you know shit. Just because you don’t know people that have pay 2 leech accounts and I do doesn’t mean they don’t exist. To have access, everybody contributes something you stupid retard. Just for your infomation: would you like to know how Scenetorrents grabs content so fast after it pres? The site has at least one PAY 2 LEECH account that some uploaders use. Your douchebag.

So, my man, claiming to know exactly how much server renting costs – get the facts yourself;)

OK, you’re an idiot. Nowhere did I claim that I know how much servers cost except my own tracker.

You stop making up crap and putting “facts” into my mouth.

I still don’t see anybody whinging about any public trackers, the largest of which must be making at least a few tens of thousands a year.

@38 : itsoverninethousand said: “I think “Borley” is a moviex fanatic…. or the most likely scenario is he is one of the admins or mods. Why else would he completely flame everyone who badmouths the site?”

Poeple who are members at Funfile or Pretome know who I am. I’m flaming people because it pisses me off that public tracker users for the most part (my guess) talk crap about how piracy should be free and non-profit when their own beloved Pirate Bay and others are making thousands per year from advertising and merchandise sales. This is never mentioned and instead they talk crap about topsite servers which they know nothing about.

Donating to keep a serving going is good I think, people behind a lot of these trackers put a shit load of their effort and time into them, that we give them a hand in paying for server costs should really be no big deal.

It also seems you had about 400,000 members before, and since this story you now have 401,889. Thats only about 2,000(ish) new members, so dont bother thinking that this was a successful advertising plot, as it failed terribly. When The Pirate bay went down after their raid, and was back up within a few days completly, now that brought members, many millions of members. And, notice that they have yet to leave to head down to your site. The fact remains, above all of this, The Pirate Bay is a better tracker, and this site will be down in a few days, so enjoy it while you can.

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Please stick to public trackers and leave us alone on private trackers: your unrealistic views are not wanted.

Of course, not a word about public trackers selling merchandise or supporting porn sites and questionable dating sites through advertising. It’s all about some completely misguided view that “piracy should cost nothing” when the reality that it requires infrastructure is staring them in the face.

Once again a total ignoramus pretending to know how the scene operates.

Pay2leech accounts are a major source of funding for MANY, MANY large topsite in existence you twat. Please outline to us three things regarding your post:

1. How are pay2leech accounts allowing logging when they are not administrator accounts and logging is explicitly not used by the admins. You sound like you have never used an FTP site before let alone know anything about logging.

2. No scene busts to date have been as a result of pay2leech accounts: please give us examples of this because I do not know of even one case.

3. For some reason your assuming that pay2leech accounts are given out to people on an adhoc basis. Pay2leech is just as hard to get as any other method of accessing topsites, people are vetted and must be trusted. You then make the stupid satement that authorities will upload content anyway: in that case, WHY WOULD THEY BOTHER WITH PAY2LEECH seeing as they could become a ratio account?

You sound like a typical public tracker user except your trying to impress anonymous people with your supposed knowledge. Which makes no sense. People who smoke a lot of cannabis often do this. And also completely miss the fact that people will pick their statements to pieces because they’re full of it.

You dumb shit i don’t even use torrents, shows how much you know. How can you even speak if you’ve never even been a member of the site? You say MovieX leeches off the public but where is this “proof” ? Honestly if EVERYONE was to donate to MovieX we would all be using direct downloads and not torrents. What makes you think i want to leech off your slow ass connection? When i can download as fast as my internet goes.

I decide where my money goes, not you. No one is telling you how to spend your money.

You know what? When i get the chance I’m going to donate $50. Why you ask? BECAUSE I CAN.