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		<title>By: Ma Long</title>
		<link>/digital-britain-some-points-to-consider-090616/#comment-571432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ma Long]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some people on here have terrible spelling... I can&#039;t take their posts seriously with spelling like:

figer - figure?
pritty - pretty?
maney - many?
giveing - giving?
surgest - suggest?

seriously guys... this feels like nursery school not an intellectual forum of discussion. 

Regardless... 

the situation in Britain is fucked up its time we all get VPN&#039;s... what they going to do then?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people on here have terrible spelling&#8230; I can&#8217;t take their posts seriously with spelling like:</p>
<p>figer &#8211; figure?<br />
pritty &#8211; pretty?<br />
maney &#8211; many?<br />
giveing &#8211; giving?<br />
surgest &#8211; suggest?</p>
<p>seriously guys&#8230; this feels like nursery school not an intellectual forum of discussion. </p>
<p>Regardless&#8230; </p>
<p>the situation in Britain is fucked up its time we all get VPN&#8217;s&#8230; what they going to do then?</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Britain - Techlog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Entertane.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Universal Turing Machine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Universal Turing Machine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what I am amusition and no I have to pay to play my own stuff so go and figer. The fact the country people and free culture have had enough from the lies spread about imaginary property.

I don’t play music for money I do it cos I enjoy and if it brings happiness to some ekles more the better. I also follow the same values when I am writing software.

There is a much better way to distribute music now and you quite clearly in it for the money. What ever happened to selling your own soul for the world. The fact is if you do thing for non proffet in the entertainment industry theres always some wanting to ruin your fun.

Remember the riaa plan to copyright every piece of music even though it fellout the scope for copyright you might even remember there idea to ban all music downloads.

The fact is this is not a means of showing credit for your work, it’s a meer idiotic view to try and preserve the business model. The fact is you lost the battle and dicied that your automatically in right.

Look at your fellow man, how did you lean to talk write move behave you copied someone else take a look its one massive fractal. 

This report is nothing more than greed something the politicians are expert on.


I don’t cear for patents when there abused like patenting music something which belong to the people and should not be challenged. Second of look at state of the health service to do were people can get the drug they need to save there lives because there too expensive when in fact they cost pennies to make. Look at the abesbity that a computer programmer thin k he can patent math.

At the end of the day humans copy humans share there a social bunch of beings.

I am final glad that people are starting to ask question’s why they should live by other people ideals and more importantly who the hell these people think they are……. God ?.

The digital Brittan report has declaiered war on Britons young and must be addressed.

If you don’t like copying, sharing you not normal and certainly not human.

Peace

HELL TO THE HATERS AND THERE SURPORTERS MAY THERE GREEDY ASS BURN IN HADIES.

i&#039;ll leave you with this now is the time for change.

looks like the ramones line about Politician don’t become one of hitters children came true.  

anway here it is 

 When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.


   * &quot;If I&#039;m not doing anything wrong, then you have no cause to watch me.&quot;
    * &quot;Because the government gets to define what&#039;s wrong, and they keep changing the definition.&quot;
    * &quot;Because you might do something wrong with my information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what I am amusition and no I have to pay to play my own stuff so go and figer. The fact the country people and free culture have had enough from the lies spread about imaginary property.</p>
<p>I don’t play music for money I do it cos I enjoy and if it brings happiness to some ekles more the better. I also follow the same values when I am writing software.</p>
<p>There is a much better way to distribute music now and you quite clearly in it for the money. What ever happened to selling your own soul for the world. The fact is if you do thing for non proffet in the entertainment industry theres always some wanting to ruin your fun.</p>
<p>Remember the riaa plan to copyright every piece of music even though it fellout the scope for copyright you might even remember there idea to ban all music downloads.</p>
<p>The fact is this is not a means of showing credit for your work, it’s a meer idiotic view to try and preserve the business model. The fact is you lost the battle and dicied that your automatically in right.</p>
<p>Look at your fellow man, how did you lean to talk write move behave you copied someone else take a look its one massive fractal. </p>
<p>This report is nothing more than greed something the politicians are expert on.</p>
<p>I don’t cear for patents when there abused like patenting music something which belong to the people and should not be challenged. Second of look at state of the health service to do were people can get the drug they need to save there lives because there too expensive when in fact they cost pennies to make. Look at the abesbity that a computer programmer thin k he can patent math.</p>
<p>At the end of the day humans copy humans share there a social bunch of beings.</p>
<p>I am final glad that people are starting to ask question’s why they should live by other people ideals and more importantly who the hell these people think they are……. God ?.</p>
<p>The digital Brittan report has declaiered war on Britons young and must be addressed.</p>
<p>If you don’t like copying, sharing you not normal and certainly not human.</p>
<p>Peace</p>
<p>HELL TO THE HATERS AND THERE SURPORTERS MAY THERE GREEDY ASS BURN IN HADIES.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ll leave you with this now is the time for change.</p>
<p>looks like the ramones line about Politician don’t become one of hitters children came true.  </p>
<p>anway here it is </p>
<p> When the Nazis came for the communists,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a communist.</p>
<p>Then they locked up the social democrats,<br />
I remained silent;<br />
I was not a social democrat.</p>
<p>Then they came for the trade unionists,<br />
I did not speak out;<br />
I was not a trade unionist.</p>
<p>Then they came for the Jews,<br />
I did not speak out;<br />
I was not a Jew.</p>
<p>When they came for me,<br />
there was no one left to speak out for me.</p>
<p>   * &#8220;If I&#8217;m not doing anything wrong, then you have no cause to watch me.&#8221;<br />
    * &#8220;Because the government gets to define what&#8217;s wrong, and they keep changing the definition.&#8221;<br />
    * &#8220;Because you might do something wrong with my information.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Jones</title>
		<link>/digital-britain-some-points-to-consider-090616/#comment-570475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ content producer
Yes, actually, no matter how many people you kill, you have not committed the crime of murder, UNTIL, and only UNTIL you have been judged to do so in a court of law. That is the basis of justice systems in the majority of the world. The point is that you have to have the crime described, and your involvement in it proven for it to be considered &#039;true&#039;. In many countries, killing your neighbour may be legal, or it may be murder. The point is to determine what the crime is, from the action. The action is &#039;killing your neighbour&#039;. Was it premeditated, was it a consequence of an unplanned action, was it through use of materials you had a duty of care to provide in good order, or did it happen just &#039;on your property&#039; without any direct involvement of youself. The detrmination of what actually happened, based on evidence, forms the basis of a determination of the crime you have committed. Think of it this way.
My neighbour is found dead in my pool one morning. What crime have I committed? Can&#039;t say. I *might* have murdered him, or I might have nothing to do with it.
a) I could have put him in the pool and held him under the surface - Murder
b) We had a fight. He hits his head and falls in the pool and drowns - manslaughter
c) He is at a pool party, gets on the diving board, it breaks and he hits his head and dies - depending ont he country, this can be a number of things, but can be negligence if the equipment should have beenkept in better repair
d) He nips in to use the pool without my knowledge, slips, hits his head and drowns - a Coronor would rule it as misadventure, no charges
e) He commits suicide in the pool - obviously no charges.

Thats all from the basic premis of &#039;neighbour found dead your pool&#039;, even if situation D happened, you would be happy to be termed murderer? after all, that&#039;s one interpritation, albeit one not reached by any court. Would you be happy with everyone refering to you as a murderer from the date of the incident onwards, regardless of any culpability?

That&#039;s the reason there is a judicial process, because from an initial set of facts, there&#039;s many different conclusions. Soldiers kill people, but they&#039;re not murderers. Guilt-on-accusation systems are the last refuge of tyrants and despots afraid of losing power. The only ones hurt by innocent-until-proven-guilty, are those that have no evidence to prove. Speaking as a content producer, and rights holder myself (you&#039;ve just read my creative work here), as a past copyright enforcer, and as someone that&#039;s studied the area for almost 10 years, I&#039;ve yet to find proof of losses, for instance, or many other claims made by the major creative industries. Without proof, they need to rely entirely on the accusation. Would you like to spend 20 years in prison based on an accusation of murder? This is where we are heading.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ content producer<br />
Yes, actually, no matter how many people you kill, you have not committed the crime of murder, UNTIL, and only UNTIL you have been judged to do so in a court of law. That is the basis of justice systems in the majority of the world. The point is that you have to have the crime described, and your involvement in it proven for it to be considered &#8216;true&#8217;. In many countries, killing your neighbour may be legal, or it may be murder. The point is to determine what the crime is, from the action. The action is &#8216;killing your neighbour&#8217;. Was it premeditated, was it a consequence of an unplanned action, was it through use of materials you had a duty of care to provide in good order, or did it happen just &#8216;on your property&#8217; without any direct involvement of youself. The detrmination of what actually happened, based on evidence, forms the basis of a determination of the crime you have committed. Think of it this way.<br />
My neighbour is found dead in my pool one morning. What crime have I committed? Can&#8217;t say. I *might* have murdered him, or I might have nothing to do with it.<br />
a) I could have put him in the pool and held him under the surface &#8211; Murder<br />
b) We had a fight. He hits his head and falls in the pool and drowns &#8211; manslaughter<br />
c) He is at a pool party, gets on the diving board, it breaks and he hits his head and dies &#8211; depending ont he country, this can be a number of things, but can be negligence if the equipment should have beenkept in better repair<br />
d) He nips in to use the pool without my knowledge, slips, hits his head and drowns &#8211; a Coronor would rule it as misadventure, no charges<br />
e) He commits suicide in the pool &#8211; obviously no charges.</p>
<p>Thats all from the basic premis of &#8216;neighbour found dead your pool&#8217;, even if situation D happened, you would be happy to be termed murderer? after all, that&#8217;s one interpritation, albeit one not reached by any court. Would you be happy with everyone refering to you as a murderer from the date of the incident onwards, regardless of any culpability?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the reason there is a judicial process, because from an initial set of facts, there&#8217;s many different conclusions. Soldiers kill people, but they&#8217;re not murderers. Guilt-on-accusation systems are the last refuge of tyrants and despots afraid of losing power. The only ones hurt by innocent-until-proven-guilty, are those that have no evidence to prove. Speaking as a content producer, and rights holder myself (you&#8217;ve just read my creative work here), as a past copyright enforcer, and as someone that&#8217;s studied the area for almost 10 years, I&#8217;ve yet to find proof of losses, for instance, or many other claims made by the major creative industries. Without proof, they need to rely entirely on the accusation. Would you like to spend 20 years in prison based on an accusation of murder? This is where we are heading.</p>
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		<title>By: Content producer and rights holder, so am i extra evil? :(</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Content producer and rights holder, so am i extra evil? :(]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh and to #41, sometimes ppl can consider profit along the lines of avoiding a &quot;necessary loss,&quot; which could very well be what they&#039;re taking a look at.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and to #41, sometimes ppl can consider profit along the lines of avoiding a &#8220;necessary loss,&#8221; which could very well be what they&#8217;re taking a look at.</p>
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		<title>By: Content producer and rights holder, so am i extra evil? :(</title>
		<link>/digital-britain-some-points-to-consider-090616/#comment-570461</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Content producer and rights holder, so am i extra evil? :(]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 14:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice and well written.

Have to be honest though: &quot;No activity is illegal until so decided, either in a court of law or by the accused admitting guilt on that particular occasion&quot;; not much of an argument there.

You&#039;re either saying that nothing is illegal until a court finds you guilty of that specific crime, which is like saying murdering your neighbor is legal until they catch you.

If you&#039;re saying there is no precedence here, look back to the Drink Or Die network in 2001 or so.


We differ on the industry and what should be done, but I&#039;m very thankful for your perspective and how you guys over here express it. Hope one day we find something we all can agree on.

Cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice and well written.</p>
<p>Have to be honest though: &#8220;No activity is illegal until so decided, either in a court of law or by the accused admitting guilt on that particular occasion&#8221;; not much of an argument there.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re either saying that nothing is illegal until a court finds you guilty of that specific crime, which is like saying murdering your neighbor is legal until they catch you.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re saying there is no precedence here, look back to the Drink Or Die network in 2001 or so.</p>
<p>We differ on the industry and what should be done, but I&#8217;m very thankful for your perspective and how you guys over here express it. Hope one day we find something we all can agree on.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Page 17 - 

The government believes piracy of intellectual property FOR PROFIT is theft and will be pursed as such through criminal law.


The report then forgets about the for profit bit and goes on the usual mad P2P witch hunt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page 17 &#8211; </p>
<p>The government believes piracy of intellectual property FOR PROFIT is theft and will be pursed as such through criminal law.</p>
<p>The report then forgets about the for profit bit and goes on the usual mad P2P witch hunt</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Parker</title>
		<link>/digital-britain-some-points-to-consider-090616/#comment-570362</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ian Parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the technology had been around in the past I am sure the copyright laws would be very different. The question is how can creative talent be rewarded in the digital age?

The artists that I feel we should be concerned about are not pop stars who make enough money anyway, but authors of books, who, by and large, are not making enormous sums. To me that is the real problem and what we should be turning our minds to.

Pop stars make a lot of money for live concert performances, they can even get paid by fashion houses for wearing their outfits. Google is based on an advertising model, could creative writing be?

The government seems to me to be pandering to those who are already making a lot of money and ignoring books completely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the technology had been around in the past I am sure the copyright laws would be very different. The question is how can creative talent be rewarded in the digital age?</p>
<p>The artists that I feel we should be concerned about are not pop stars who make enough money anyway, but authors of books, who, by and large, are not making enormous sums. To me that is the real problem and what we should be turning our minds to.</p>
<p>Pop stars make a lot of money for live concert performances, they can even get paid by fashion houses for wearing their outfits. Google is based on an advertising model, could creative writing be?</p>
<p>The government seems to me to be pandering to those who are already making a lot of money and ignoring books completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Britain &#8211; Some Points to Consider &#124; AntiMatter's Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Digital Britain &#8211; Some Points to Consider &#124; AntiMatter's Blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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