figer – figure?
pritty – pretty?
maney – many?
giveing – giving?
surgest – suggest?

seriously guys… this feels like nursery school not an intellectual forum of discussion.

Regardless…

the situation in Britain is fucked up its time we all get VPN’s… what they going to do then?

I don’t play music for money I do it cos I enjoy and if it brings happiness to some ekles more the better. I also follow the same values when I am writing software.

There is a much better way to distribute music now and you quite clearly in it for the money. What ever happened to selling your own soul for the world. The fact is if you do thing for non proffet in the entertainment industry theres always some wanting to ruin your fun.

Remember the riaa plan to copyright every piece of music even though it fellout the scope for copyright you might even remember there idea to ban all music downloads.

The fact is this is not a means of showing credit for your work, it’s a meer idiotic view to try and preserve the business model. The fact is you lost the battle and dicied that your automatically in right.

Look at your fellow man, how did you lean to talk write move behave you copied someone else take a look its one massive fractal.

This report is nothing more than greed something the politicians are expert on.

I don’t cear for patents when there abused like patenting music something which belong to the people and should not be challenged. Second of look at state of the health service to do were people can get the drug they need to save there lives because there too expensive when in fact they cost pennies to make. Look at the abesbity that a computer programmer thin k he can patent math.

At the end of the day humans copy humans share there a social bunch of beings.

I am final glad that people are starting to ask question’s why they should live by other people ideals and more importantly who the hell these people think they are……. God ?.

The digital Brittan report has declaiered war on Britons young and must be addressed.

If you don’t like copying, sharing you not normal and certainly not human.

Peace

HELL TO THE HATERS AND THERE SURPORTERS MAY THERE GREEDY ASS BURN IN HADIES.

i’ll leave you with this now is the time for change.

looks like the ramones line about Politician don’t become one of hitters children came true.

anway here it is

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

Then they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
I did not speak out;
I was not a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out for me.

* “If I’m not doing anything wrong, then you have no cause to watch me.”
* “Because the government gets to define what’s wrong, and they keep changing the definition.”
* “Because you might do something wrong with my information.

Thats all from the basic premis of ‘neighbour found dead your pool’, even if situation D happened, you would be happy to be termed murderer? after all, that’s one interpritation, albeit one not reached by any court. Would you be happy with everyone refering to you as a murderer from the date of the incident onwards, regardless of any culpability?

That’s the reason there is a judicial process, because from an initial set of facts, there’s many different conclusions. Soldiers kill people, but they’re not murderers. Guilt-on-accusation systems are the last refuge of tyrants and despots afraid of losing power. The only ones hurt by innocent-until-proven-guilty, are those that have no evidence to prove. Speaking as a content producer, and rights holder myself (you’ve just read my creative work here), as a past copyright enforcer, and as someone that’s studied the area for almost 10 years, I’ve yet to find proof of losses, for instance, or many other claims made by the major creative industries. Without proof, they need to rely entirely on the accusation. Would you like to spend 20 years in prison based on an accusation of murder? This is where we are heading.

Have to be honest though: “No activity is illegal until so decided, either in a court of law or by the accused admitting guilt on that particular occasion”; not much of an argument there.

You’re either saying that nothing is illegal until a court finds you guilty of that specific crime, which is like saying murdering your neighbor is legal until they catch you.

If you’re saying there is no precedence here, look back to the Drink Or Die network in 2001 or so.

We differ on the industry and what should be done, but I’m very thankful for your perspective and how you guys over here express it. Hope one day we find something we all can agree on.

Cheers.

The government believes piracy of intellectual property FOR PROFIT is theft and will be pursed as such through criminal law.

The report then forgets about the for profit bit and goes on the usual mad P2P witch hunt

The artists that I feel we should be concerned about are not pop stars who make enough money anyway, but authors of books, who, by and large, are not making enormous sums. To me that is the real problem and what we should be turning our minds to.

Pop stars make a lot of money for live concert performances, they can even get paid by fashion houses for wearing their outfits. Google is based on an advertising model, could creative writing be?

The government seems to me to be pandering to those who are already making a lot of money and ignoring books completely.

The most worrying factor aside from IP, is that they have failed to see the that 2Mbps will not even be enough of a speed by the time its introduced let alone future proof.

With brand new infrastructures being installed in eastern european, and asian countries, which will far surpass that of our own, we will be at risk of what little industry we currently have being taken abroad.

Small Businesses do not have the ability nor the finance to lease high speed lines, or purchase the relevant equipment in order to stay on top of the field.

As the net grows, so does the volume of data needed to run applications. In a world where online services such as VOIP and Video Conferencing are gaining ground the likes of Taiwan and Korea specifying minimum standards of 100Mbit connections right up to Gigabit connections as standard for every household, Britain is set to become a Technical 3rd world country.

Admittedly there are services currently upto 50Mbit and one operator trialing 200Mbit services, but these come at a premium, and once they exist, websites will obviously be looking to take advantage of that bandwidth in order to enrich the customer experience. Once this happens the UK will no longer be able to keep up.

I would have also expected to see something about minimum upload speeds to be included, in the growing world of social networking. I personally run http://www.electro-flashback.com. We are a not for profit radio station created with the goal of providing up and coming DJ’s, Bands, and producers with an outlet for their talents. and even though i have a 20Mbit connection, upload is still limited to 500kbps. This makes uploading peoples content a painstaking task and hinders the speed at which we can get radio shows on.

Add this to the overall bias toward IP, and it results in yet another 2 steps back for the government.

Make your opinions on it by writing to your local MP’s on this and everything else going in british politics. we must be heard.

Dan.
http://www.electro-flashback.com

Don’t make me laugh… A timestamp and an IP adress isn’t enough proof.

“The technology of ‘MP3 player’ has not been actively campaigned against, except as a side-issue. The 4 examples I gave are technologies where the companies actively campaigned to have the technology regulated and/or banned, because the technology would ‘destroy’ the industry.”

From Wikipedia;

“On October 8, 1998, the American recording industry group, the Recording Industry Association of America, filed an application for a Temporary Restraining Order to prevent the sale of the Rio player in the Central District Court of California, claiming the player violated the 1992 Audio Home Recording Act.

Judge Andrea Collins issued the temporary order on October 16, but required the RIAA to post a $500,000 bond that would be used to compensate Diamond for damages incurred in the delay if Diamond eventually prevailed in court. Diamond then announced that it would temporarily delay shipment of the Rio.

On October 26, Judge Collins denied the RIAA’s application.”

So it wasn’t a long court battle, but they did try to stop the sale of MP3 players. If they had prevailed against Diamond, they would have used that win to prevent any other companies from making MP3 players.

And all governments that use the frase “Intellectual Property based economy” will suffer tremendously just because IP is hard to enforce cost a lot, is not effective and you will have at some point threat other countries to fallow what you think is better and defend your way off life which probably will lead those countries to real wars.

They could take other routes like services or local productions of physical products but no instead they want to go about with this unenforceable, costly business well good luck with that.

They say its going to be 50p a month. Is that with or without VAT? And once they start charging it will go up every year like everything else whether the rate of inflation has increased or not!

I’ll put it on expenses. Works for the government!

Where P2P is concerned it looks like I’ll be investing in a VPN connection. Let them try and stop that. I did want to give TPB something for everything they had been through and everything they are going to go through. Their VPN service is the way I’ll do it.

The sooner we get this government out the better.

Maybe then we can get some of our overly charged tv licence back! (Yea Right!!!)

RIAA: Sue the bastards…

https://nodpi.org/forum/index.php/topic,1635.msg18811/topicseen.html#msg18811

WELL DONE FOR FUCKING UP FREE CULTURE.

I HOPE YOU FUCKERS ARE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE AND TRIED FOR YOUR LIES.

SHAME ON YOU

SHAME ON THE PEOPLE OF BRITAN FOR NOT GIVEING A SHIT ABOUT THERE RIGHTS.

YET MORE LAW TO TRY AND FIX A BUSSNESS MODE.

UNITED KINDOM CAPITALISM BEFORE PEOPLE. YOUR LIFE IS WORTHLESS WHEN IT COMES TO PRESERVING THE MONEY REV OF CORPRATIONS.

THIS IS PISSING ON WW1 AND WW2 VETORONS GRAVE AS THE VERY THING THEY WERE FIGHT HAS NO BECOME OF THERE COUNTRY AND PEOPLE.

THE GOVEMENT HAS WAGED WAR ON THE YOUNG NOW IS THE TIME TO FIGHT.

a unbiased view always at torrent freak digital Brittan more like digital fascist Totalitarian.

i don’t expect them to get it right but you would not expect a doctor with compensatancy to carry out a procedure that he has no idea about.

To hell with money grabbing Americans and idistry charities. to hell with this reporters ideas.

to hell with copyright.

save the world now and end this 20th century barbaric fascisium.

HELL TO THE HATERS.

What’s more insulting is this potential use of the license fee, to fund other stations than the BBC. I’m sorry but when they deviate from the whole point of the license fee, which they have waved the flag forever for, IMO this invalidates the license fee itself. These are tough times indeed, but I’m not up for bailing out tv stations, after just bailing out banks.

Where will it end? It will never end, and like always, the license fee will continue to rise, while its merrily passed by MPs. What I find amazing is that the tax payer continues to pay this. I’m sure if we all rallied together and boycott this fee, it could be crushed. They can’t imprison us all, when prisons are already full.

The technology of ‘MP3 player’ has not been actively campaigned against, except as a side-issue. The 4 examples I gave are technologies where the companies actively campaigned to have the technology regulated and/or banned, because the technology would ‘destroy’ the industry.

“Pirates are 2 times cleaver then Anti Piracy companies.”

Ha ha ha!!

http://tepiratebay.com/search/digital%20britain/0/99/0

Enough results, aren’t there? (sarcasm)

You forgot MP3 players… which sites like iTunes have conveniently made billions of dollars from..

It probably will just end up being a credulous paper. It is also kind of like circular reasoning. But we will have to see once the report it released

Some stupid A-holes calling themself Digital Britain :P

how about Digital A-Holes ?

Remember always: Pirates are 2 times cleaver then Anti Piracy companies.

It means, we already passed all these useless algorithms, come with something unique and effective.

if you can’t, try to hire some pirate experts!
e.g: Hire a Torrent site owner, offer them huge amount of $, they will definitely help you and find good algorithm to compete with Pirate sites. ( Not Newbie tracker owners, tracker owner who been doing all these things for the past 3-4 years, they can only help you )

When you never played football, how can you guide someone else to play football ? Think + Rethink, then act like a Digital brain, not Digital A-Hole.

I’ll be interested to see if the government has listened to all the industry propaganda or really looked at the facts presented to them. Unfortunately I expect the former…

Either way, WEP encrypted Wi-Fi is a good enough defence for any un-biased court. I can crack my own Wi-Fi in about 5 minutes but I leave it like that just in case.

-Jay

-Jay