Comments on: Digital Economy Bill: Lords Want To Stamp Out Piracy Chasers http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Tue, 22 May 2012 05:18:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Cap'n RSIE http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-626948 Cap'n RSIE Sat, 19 Dec 2009 14:36:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-626948 Despite the fact that I've been able to download torrents of all the albums I ever owned that were ripped off or lost 'for free,' I still buy CD's of the really exceptionally good ones when I can find them, just to pay tribute to the artists. A large percentage of that stuff is not even 'in print' any more, like obscure but fantastic 60's jazz that is so good that it ought to be easily available on CD. But if you want to buy it it would have to be ordered over the net and prices are ridiculously high. If you want the commercial best sellers from the artist you could buy the best of but then you are not going to get ASCENSION on the best of Coltrane albums are you? I's the record companies' own fault for only caring about herding innocent people (mostly the young) into liking crappy comercial trite pop music when they should know themselves that the music and lifestyle totally sucks. They say that they have to do that in order to survive... well then why is pirating good music wrong. People who put music on the pirate bay are not rich and simply wish to share good music and films with others who would never even get to hear it otherwise. For example the music and films of Frank Zappa have never been heard or seen by 98 percent of Musicians in thailand, Indonesia and India. Here is one of most creative and funny individuals in the history of mankind and one third of the world's musicians have never even heard of him. There is something really sick about not encouraging all good music to be heard by every other musician on the planet. Its just too bad that we can't download expensive pharmaceuticals over bittorrent, now thats something to work towards! can't you just see the capsules freely pooting out into a special little mouse dish? By the way i am a professional musician, composer and have produced many bands and recordings and found that the record Labels won't even listen to it unless you know someone to coerce them into it by friendly or family leverage. And then if they decide that if it would be difficult to market, even if its good they won't even try. Luckily in the 60s and 70s things were not so plastic. I am delighted to put all my stuff on Pirate Bay and let people download it for free. All the money i ever made off of in music was in live performances. Its hard work and you might not make billions but then I ask you what gives anyone the right to make Billions by sitting on their butts and milking other talented individuals? It has given me a relatively easy life and an early retirement in asia, where things are way cheaper. At least I never had to cheat anyone or rip anyone off. If the big artists and the industry pigs are concerned about this torrent stuff who really gives a hoot? Sorry slimeballs and ROGERS pigfaces etc., the world has to move forward and not be intimidated by your fake attempts to pretend that you are in the right. Thank you Lord Lucas... i was very surprised and delighted to hear. arrr RZZZ Despite the fact that I’ve been able to download torrents of all the albums I ever owned that were ripped off or lost ‘for free,’ I still buy CD’s of the really exceptionally good ones when I can find them, just to pay tribute to the artists. A large percentage of that stuff is not even ‘in print’ any more, like obscure but fantastic 60′s jazz that is so good that it ought to be easily available on CD. But if you want to buy it it would have to be ordered over the net and prices are ridiculously high. If you want the commercial best sellers from the artist you could buy the best of but then you are not going to get ASCENSION on the best of Coltrane albums are you?
I’s the record companies’ own fault for only caring about herding innocent people (mostly the young) into liking crappy comercial trite pop music when they should know themselves that the music and lifestyle totally sucks. They say that they have to do that in order to survive… well then why is pirating good music wrong. People who put music on the pirate bay are not rich and simply wish to share good music and films with others who would never even get to hear it otherwise. For example the music and films of Frank Zappa have never been heard or seen by 98 percent of Musicians in thailand, Indonesia and India. Here is one of most creative and funny individuals in the history of mankind and one third of the world’s musicians have never even heard of him. There is something really sick about not encouraging all good music to be heard by every other musician on the planet. Its just too bad that we can’t download expensive pharmaceuticals over bittorrent, now thats something to work towards! can’t you just see the capsules freely pooting out into a special little mouse dish?
By the way i am a professional musician, composer and have produced many bands and recordings and found that the record Labels won’t even listen to it unless you know someone to coerce them into it by friendly or family leverage. And then if they decide that if it would be difficult to market, even if its good they won’t even try. Luckily in the 60s and 70s things were not so plastic. I am delighted to put all my stuff on Pirate Bay and let people download it for free.
All the money i ever made off of in music was in live performances. Its hard work and you might not make billions but then I ask you what gives anyone the right to make Billions by sitting on their butts and milking other talented individuals? It has given me a relatively easy life and an early retirement in asia, where things are way cheaper. At least I never had to cheat anyone or rip anyone off. If the big artists and the industry pigs are concerned about this torrent stuff who really gives a hoot? Sorry slimeballs and ROGERS pigfaces etc., the world has to move forward and not be intimidated by your fake attempts to pretend that you are in the right.
Thank you Lord Lucas… i was very surprised and delighted to hear.

arrr RZZZ

]]> By: Abmahnwahn 2.0 - allumfassend - Seite 57 - netzwelt.de Forum http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-626417 Abmahnwahn 2.0 - allumfassend - Seite 57 - netzwelt.de Forum Thu, 17 Dec 2009 09:57:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-626417 [...] [...] [...] [...]

]]> By: Trelew http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-625957 Trelew Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:47:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-625957 Personally, I think this is nothing more than Big Business through their puppets in government road testing corporate-friendly legislature to see if they can get away with it. Then if it passes, have the rest of the governments follow suit. Personally, I think this is nothing more than Big Business through their puppets in government road testing corporate-friendly legislature to see if they can get away with it. Then if it passes, have the rest of the governments follow suit.

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]]> By: Links 13/12/2009: Preview of Linux 2.6.33, Krita Gets €4,000 | Boycott Novell http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624884 Links 13/12/2009: Preview of Linux 2.6.33, Krita Gets €4,000 | Boycott Novell Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:37:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624884 [...] Digital Economy Bill: Lords Want To Stamp Out Piracy Chasers Members of the House of Lords recently voiced concerns over the UK government’s Digital Economy Bill, stating that the problems facing the entertainment industry are largely of their own creation. There was also criticism of companies who demand cash from file-sharers in the UK, and ideas were put forward to end their scheme. [...] [...] Digital Economy Bill: Lords Want To Stamp Out Piracy Chasers Members of the House of Lords recently voiced concerns over the UK government’s Digital Economy Bill, stating that the problems facing the entertainment industry are largely of their own creation. There was also criticism of companies who demand cash from file-sharers in the UK, and ideas were put forward to end their scheme. [...]

]]> By: Links 13/12/2009: Preview of Linux 2.6.33, Krita Gets €4,000 | Boycott Novell http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624885 Links 13/12/2009: Preview of Linux 2.6.33, Krita Gets €4,000 | Boycott Novell Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:37:28 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624885 [...] Digital Economy Bill: Lords Want To Stamp Out Piracy Chasers Members of the House of Lords recently voiced concerns over the UK government’s Digital Economy Bill, stating that the problems facing the entertainment industry are largely of their own creation. There was also criticism of companies who demand cash from file-sharers in the UK, and ideas were put forward to end their scheme. [...] [...] Digital Economy Bill: Lords Want To Stamp Out Piracy Chasers Members of the House of Lords recently voiced concerns over the UK government’s Digital Economy Bill, stating that the problems facing the entertainment industry are largely of their own creation. There was also criticism of companies who demand cash from file-sharers in the UK, and ideas were put forward to end their scheme. [...]

]]> By: English Tea Biscuits http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624801 English Tea Biscuits Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:19:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624801 @ Dec 11, 2009 at 21:56 by \\.neo.styles|sSG <blockquote>So if the industry doesn’t fulfill your every dream, that makes it okay, to just steal from them?</blockquote> Pretty much, yeah. We're pirates you stupid ass. You keep saying it yourself. That's what we do. If we had a chance, we'd steal from you too and then make you walk the plank. I'd personally want to shish-kabob my sword right up your stinkin ass and out your mouth along with the shit that comes out of it. But my sword would probably get tangled and stuck with the mad rush of everyone else's in the same direction. ...How do you like that clip from my hypothetical moviescript? Hahaaar, relax, it's only fiction. <blockquote>What exactly are these things custemors wants?</blockquote> Industry-insider volunteer-work for pirates in the way of things that are free and pirateable, laddy. Whatever have you. Dance the plank for our entertainment. @ Dec 11, 2009 at 21:56 by \\.neo.styles|sSG

So if the industry doesn’t fulfill your every dream, that makes it okay, to just steal from them?

Pretty much, yeah. We’re pirates you stupid ass. You keep saying it yourself. That’s what we do. If we had a chance, we’d steal from you too and then make you walk the plank. I’d personally want to shish-kabob my sword right up your stinkin ass and out your mouth along with the shit that comes out of it. But my sword would probably get tangled and stuck with the mad rush of everyone else’s in the same direction.

…How do you like that clip from my hypothetical moviescript? Hahaaar, relax, it’s only fiction.

What exactly are these things custemors wants?

Industry-insider volunteer-work for pirates in the way of things that are free and pirateable, laddy. Whatever have you. Dance the plank for our entertainment.

]]> By: English Tea Biscuits http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624800 English Tea Biscuits Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:03:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624800 Like the Pirate Bay did, just post all your "cease-and-desist-and/or-give-us-money-bla-bla-bla" legal letters with your responses to them on your site. Like the Pirate Bay did, just post all your “cease-and-desist-and/or-give-us-money-bla-bla-bla” legal letters with your responses to them on your site.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624760 Anonymous Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:40:55 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624760 Hollywood is pretty much a porn studio now. Shut the degenerates down, end the public exhibition of MPAA smut. Hollywood is pretty much a porn studio now. Shut the degenerates down, end the public exhibition of MPAA smut.

]]> By: JTK http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624630 JTK Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:20:35 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624630 @\\.neo.styles|sSG - he said the industry took too long to offer these things, which is why piracy got as huge as it did today. They got offers to sell films online legally as early as 1999 but refused. Now what they are doing is too little too late and it is their fault. Also, making a copy of something is not stealing, it's copyright infringement. Copyright infringement isn't illegal, it's a civil charge, like breaking a contract. Get your facts right. @\\.neo.styles|sSG – he said the industry took too long to offer these things, which is why piracy got as huge as it did today. They got offers to sell films online legally as early as 1999 but refused. Now what they are doing is too little too late and it is their fault.

Also, making a copy of something is not stealing, it’s copyright infringement. Copyright infringement isn’t illegal, it’s a civil charge, like breaking a contract.

Get your facts right.

]]> By: JTK http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624629 JTK Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:16:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624629 Yes, they're finally doing something about these assholes!!! Yes, they’re finally doing something about these assholes!!!

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]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624567 Anonymous Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:47:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624567 Those in the House of Lords do so often speak common sense. Removing the tort of copyright infringement, where it is non-commercial, makes absolute sense. It would remove the need to worry about explicit legislation to legalise format-shifting. It would also allow for the making of home-made compilations and mash-ups. For those in the UK, I urge you to take heed of penumbra’s campaign on the Slyck.com forum and “Write to a Lord Today.” Not every Lord displays the common sense of Lord Lucas, with some clearly in the pockets of rights holders. Those in the House of Lords do so often speak common sense. Removing the tort of copyright infringement, where it is non-commercial, makes absolute sense. It would remove the need to worry about explicit legislation to legalise format-shifting. It would also allow for the making of home-made compilations and mash-ups.

For those in the UK, I urge you to take heed of penumbra’s campaign on the Slyck.com forum and “Write to a Lord Today.” Not every Lord displays the common sense of Lord Lucas, with some clearly in the pockets of rights holders.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624562 Anonymous Sat, 12 Dec 2009 04:07:02 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624562 Either the government do it's job by protecting the citizen against corporate terrorists and parasites or some of these parasites will die. Either the government do it’s job by protecting the citizen against corporate terrorists and parasites or some of these parasites will die.

]]> By: renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll - Links of the day http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624548 renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll - Links of the day Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:59:12 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624548 [...] Digital Economy Bill: Lords Want To Stamp Out Piracy Chasers | TorrentFreak - “The industry has been extremely slow to listen to the demands of its customers, and has had something of an abusive relationship with them, seeking to punish them before thinking of how to serve them better,” isn’t it supposed to be the Lords and not MPs that are supposed to be out of touch with modern life? [...] [...] Digital Economy Bill: Lords Want To Stamp Out Piracy Chasers | TorrentFreak – “The industry has been extremely slow to listen to the demands of its customers, and has had something of an abusive relationship with them, seeking to punish them before thinking of how to serve them better,” isn’t it supposed to be the Lords and not MPs that are supposed to be out of touch with modern life? [...]

]]> By: BoutFurkinTime http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624523 BoutFurkinTime Sat, 12 Dec 2009 00:52:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624523 "...stating that the problems facing the entertainment industry are largely of their own creation." Sanity rides into town! “…stating that the problems facing the entertainment industry are largely of their own creation.”

Sanity rides into town!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624511 Anonymous Fri, 11 Dec 2009 23:36:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624511 For .\\neo.na.zi|sSGuard <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/record-labels-face-60-billion-damages-for-pirating-artists-091207/" rel="nofollow">Record Labels Face $6 Billion Damages for Pirating Artists</a> Clean the butt putty off of your face and read this article! For .\\neo.na.zi|sSGuard

Record Labels Face $6 Billion Damages for Pirating Artists

Clean the butt putty off of your face and read this article!

]]> By: Reasoned Brain http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624480 Reasoned Brain Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:48:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624480 "So if the industry doesn’t fulfill your every dream, that makes it okay, to just steal from them?" I didn't know there were people stealing FROM them, I thought there were only people receiving from others who bought the thing. “So if the industry doesn’t fulfill your every dream, that makes it okay, to just steal from them?”

I didn’t know there were people stealing FROM them, I thought there were only people receiving from others who bought the thing.

]]> By: silversurfer http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624453 silversurfer Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:36:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624453 Here Here Here Here

]]> By: LOL@YOU http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624441 LOL@YOU Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:01:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624441 DIE MANDELSON DIE! DIE MANDELSON DIE!

]]> By: \\.neo.styles|sSG http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624440 \\.neo.styles|sSG Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:56:44 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624440 So if the industry doesn't fulfill your every dream, that makes it okay, to just steal from them? What exactly are these things custemors wants? Digital distrobution? Apparantly this Lord Lucus hasn't heard of Netlix, XBOX Live, or itunes. All of these allow legal movies downloads. So if the industry doesn’t fulfill your every dream, that makes it okay, to just steal from them?

What exactly are these things custemors wants? Digital distrobution? Apparantly this Lord Lucus hasn’t heard of Netlix, XBOX Live, or itunes. All of these allow legal movies downloads.

]]> By: knux http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624429 knux Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:37:59 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624429 @3 If you read the previous posts, that topic has been covered in full via TF, many times. Nothing new there. @3

If you read the previous posts, that topic has been covered in full via TF, many times. Nothing new there.

]]> By: 2 thumbs up http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624414 2 thumbs up Fri, 11 Dec 2009 19:04:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624414 "“We are not talking about the small, creative individual here, but about powerful, monopolistic industries and giving them power over citizens. We must be careful of that.”" (www.mafiaa.org) @3 Consider it over, the courts have already decided that its too important and privacy must be retained over wikileaks docs b/c it is too important for wistleblowers against the govt to use. If they would change that, it would overthrow the prev ruling. @10 spot on This will hopefully slow the mafiaa also www.sharevirus.com ““We are not talking about the small, creative individual here, but about powerful,
monopolistic industries and giving them power over citizens. We must be careful of that.””
(www.mafiaa.org)

@3 Consider it over, the courts have already decided that its too important and privacy
must be retained over wikileaks docs b/c it is too important for wistleblowers against
the govt to use. If they would change that, it would overthrow the prev ruling.

@10 spot on

This will hopefully slow the mafiaa also
http://www.sharevirus.com

]]> By: anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624376 anonymous Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:01:20 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624376 Its called freedom of speech viktor, what we are fighting about! Its called freedom of speech viktor, what we are fighting about!

]]> By: viktor http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624372 viktor Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:54:30 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624372 i don't understand the comments. these are great news and yet, most people just post random bullsh*t and rants. i don’t understand the comments. these are great news and yet, most people just post random bullsh*t and rants.

]]> By: greylion http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624364 greylion Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:27:32 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624364 Maybe the Lords are worried about getting caught downloading pr0n. Or being accused of it even though they're innocent. I can imagine how their wives would react to opening a letter that said their husband had downloaded pr0n illegally, and had to pay a large sum of money or get sued. And the kids: "WTF, my dad's an old pervert". Innocent or not, putting a stop to the threatening letters is doing the right thing. Maybe the Lords are worried about getting caught downloading pr0n.
Or being accused of it even though they’re innocent.
I can imagine how their wives would react to opening a letter that said their husband had downloaded pr0n illegally, and had to pay a large sum of money or get sued.
And the kids: “WTF, my dad’s an old pervert”.

Innocent or not, putting a stop to the threatening letters is doing the right thing.

]]> By: zod http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624363 zod Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:19:14 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624363 woot, the Lords are getting off their well heeled arses coz teh 'porno' mob are rearing their heads.....tut tut should be seen and not heard eh chaps still at least their looking to engage the topic..if from a odd angle Commons dwellers beware..old duffers,oddities and blue bloods showing you up, general election looms and your next bout of bleeding the tax payer dry via expenses has been published and its been formatted for easy reading too woot, the Lords are getting off their well heeled arses coz teh ‘porno’ mob are rearing their heads…..tut tut should be seen and not heard eh chaps

still at least their looking to engage the topic..if from a odd angle

Commons dwellers beware..old duffers,oddities and blue bloods showing you up, general election looms and your next bout of bleeding the tax payer dry via expenses has been published and its been formatted for easy reading too

]]> By: anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624362 anonymous Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:04:48 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624362 Well they look like clams sometimes! Well they look like clams sometimes!

]]> By: .NetRolller 3D http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624361 .NetRolller 3D Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:47:34 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624361 "clams from porn rights holders"? Clams? Hmm... “clams from porn rights holders”? Clams? Hmm…

]]> By: DeltaPan http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624360 DeltaPan Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:28:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624360 **Big smile!** Good old upper house, ay. Splendid, splendid, splendid. Pax-Delta-Pan. **Big smile!**

Good old upper house, ay.

Splendid, splendid, splendid.

Pax-Delta-Pan.

]]> By: noname http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624357 noname Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:09:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624357 @ 11, chevron "and are rather more principled" What like this.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8407836.stm http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234957/Peers-claims-soar-record-19million.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/10/peers-expenses-claims-revealed http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/pound74000-for-the-most-expensive-peer-1837911.html @ 11, chevron

“and are rather more principled”

What like this….

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8407836.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1234957/Peers-claims-soar-record-19million.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/dec/10/peers-expenses-claims-revealed

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/pound74000-for-the-most-expensive-peer-1837911.html

]]> By: Tigger http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624356 Tigger Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:05:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624356 =) Encouraging to know that not all politicians are just in it for the money, unelected or not, Lord Lucas sounds like an unbiased, principled chap who actually wants to do the right thing - hey thats theyre job, right? I think he's bang on the money in saying "...monopolistic industries and giving them power over citizens. We must be careful of that" - we must be VERY careful of that! The key word being "monopolistic" - monopolies and govermental power are obviously not a good mix! Should the emphasis be on the people, or on your wallet? Any one who says "wallet" should be bared from ever working for a government =) That being said, hearing people stand up to these money grabbing industries is a breath of fresh air, and i for one wouldnt mind taking them out and buying them a pint or two =) Good on ya Lord Lucas! This is a democracy - you do the right thing! =)

Encouraging to know that not all politicians are just in it for the money, unelected or not, Lord Lucas sounds like an unbiased, principled chap who actually wants to do the right thing – hey thats theyre job, right?
I think he’s bang on the money in saying “…monopolistic industries and giving them power over citizens. We must be careful of that” – we must be VERY careful of that! The key word being “monopolistic” – monopolies and govermental power are obviously not a good mix! Should the emphasis be on the people, or on your wallet? Any one who says “wallet” should be bared from ever working for a government =)
That being said, hearing people stand up to these money grabbing industries is a breath of fresh air, and i for one wouldnt mind taking them out and buying them a pint or two =)
Good on ya Lord Lucas! This is a democracy – you do the right thing!

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624355 Anonymous Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:59:17 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624355 You'll always get someone corrupt no matter the system. The problem is the current government has decided to remove any sense of competancy in the leadership by inserting complete amateurs into the House of Lords. Individual's families have been helping run the country for hundreds of years. Now any nutcase who happens to have enough money or is cosey with the Cabinet can buy a peerage. It may not be democratic but if you were looking for someone to run a business you would chose someone who has decades of experience, not someone doing their induction training. You’ll always get someone corrupt no matter the system. The problem is the current government has decided to remove any sense of competancy in the leadership by inserting complete amateurs into the House of Lords.

Individual’s families have been helping run the country for hundreds of years. Now any nutcase who happens to have enough money or is cosey with the Cabinet can buy a peerage.

It may not be democratic but if you were looking for someone to run a business you would chose someone who has decades of experience, not someone doing their induction training.

]]> By: Xcel http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624347 Xcel Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:15:58 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624347 Shoulder to the wheel people, things will move if enough of us push... I knew that someday, someone would take a look at all of it and say WTF??, LoL... It's been decent week for Pirates, a proposed bill of rights, and a clear minded assessment of the digital economy bill.... Shoulder to the wheel- put yer backs into it! Shoulder to the wheel people, things will move if enough of us push…

I knew that someday, someone would take a look at all of it and say WTF??, LoL…

It’s been decent week for Pirates, a proposed bill of rights, and a clear minded assessment of the digital economy bill….

Shoulder to the wheel- put yer backs into it!

]]> By: Clashman http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624346 Clashman Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:15:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624346 Anything that puts an end to those legal muggers ACS:Law is a good thing. However, I will believe it when I see it. Anything that puts an end to those legal muggers ACS:Law is a good thing. However, I will believe it when I see it.

]]> By: Brandon http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624343 Brandon Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:59:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624343 These Stupid Anti-Piracy goons should be Sanctioned for wasting the courts time. They are not the LAW. They are just running around doing stupid Vexatious Litigation and wasting everybodys time. The money they are spending takes away from the artist. They don't listen to their customers needs. They prob wouldn't pirate if they had an easier non-hassle alterative... These Stupid Anti-Piracy goons should be Sanctioned for wasting the courts time. They are not the LAW. They are just running around doing stupid Vexatious Litigation and wasting everybodys time. The money they are spending takes away from the artist. They don’t listen to their customers needs. They prob wouldn’t pirate if they had an easier non-hassle alterative…

]]> By: anon2 http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624342 anon2 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:56:10 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624342 the first thing to do here is get rid of one of their own, namely that w****r Mandelson. once he is out of the way, maybe there will be some good come out of the bill. as it is atm, no good is on the horizon at all!! the first thing to do here is get rid of one of their own, namely that w****r Mandelson. once he is out of the way, maybe there will be some good come out of the bill. as it is atm, no good is on the horizon at all!!

]]> By: TerribleTony http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624339 TerribleTony Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:36:15 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624339 The winds they a-changing! The winds they a-changing!

]]> By: Anon http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624336 Anon Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:04:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624336 “We have to be careful too about the industry cloaking itself in the finery of the small, creative individual,” said Lucas. “We are not talking about the small, creative individual here, but about powerful, monopolistic industries and giving them power over citizens. We must be careful of that.” Seems like someone has his head on right for once. “We have to be careful too about the industry cloaking itself in the finery of the small, creative individual,” said Lucas. “We are not talking about the small, creative individual here, but about powerful, monopolistic industries and giving them power over citizens. We must be careful of that.”

Seems like someone has his head on right for once.

]]> By: M-RES http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624334 M-RES Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:58:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624334 @ chevron "The Lords work for free – they receive no salary... etc" And noting your caveat in the second post... There are notable cases of Lords being subject to bribery, often called 'consultancy work'. They meet with a corporate interest for a consultancy fee and then use their influence within the parliamentary system to 'encourage' certain legislation to be put before the House of Commons for consideration... and no doubt use their influence further to help ease it through the commons into public policy. Lord Blackburn was caught doing this on behalf of BAe systems in Jack Straw's constituency. I believe he took something like 150 grand in 'consultancy fees' in exchange for works on behalf of BAe in parliament. I'd imagine this isn't the only case of this kind of shady work, which is why people often object to the unelected nature of the Lords. However, sometimes they CAN prove useful to control the Commons when the MPs get out of hand. @ chevron

“The Lords work for free – they receive no salary… etc”

And noting your caveat in the second post…

There are notable cases of Lords being subject to bribery, often called ‘consultancy work’. They meet with a corporate interest for a consultancy fee and then use their influence within the parliamentary system to ‘encourage’ certain legislation to be put before the House of Commons for consideration… and no doubt use their influence further to help ease it through the commons into public policy.

Lord Blackburn was caught doing this on behalf of BAe systems in Jack Straw’s constituency. I believe he took something like 150 grand in ‘consultancy fees’ in exchange for works on behalf of BAe in parliament.

I’d imagine this isn’t the only case of this kind of shady work, which is why people often object to the unelected nature of the Lords.

However, sometimes they CAN prove useful to control the Commons when the MPs get out of hand.

]]> By: chevron http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624333 chevron Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:48:54 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624333 I should add, before someone else does, that I'm referring to the hereditaries and the group of life-peers without political background or backing. Obviously, political appointees - like Mandelson - are just that :) I should add, before someone else does, that I’m referring to the hereditaries and the group of life-peers without political background or backing.

Obviously, political appointees – like Mandelson – are just that :)

]]> By: kabuki0009 http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624332 kabuki0009 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:47:49 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624332 The bill they should just scrap it, it's just out of touch with reality of the modern world. The bill they should just scrap it, it’s just out of touch with reality of the modern world.

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624331 Anonymous Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:46:40 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624331 haha Noting that clams from porn rights holders haha spelling errors haha Noting that clams from porn rights holders

haha spelling errors

]]> By: chevron http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624330 chevron Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:44:52 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624330 @1 The Lords work for free - they receive no salary. They spend their life debating these issues for the public good. They are thus somewhat less susceptible to 'bribes' (and are rather more principled) than career politicians. @1
The Lords work for free – they receive no salary. They spend their life debating these issues for the public good. They are thus somewhat less susceptible to ‘bribes’ (and are rather more principled) than career politicians.

]]> By: Hawk http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624329 Hawk Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:44:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624329 “The industry has been extremely slow to listen to the demands of its customers, and has had something of an abusive relationship with them, seeking to punish them before thinking of how to serve them better,” This is why most ppl i know download “The industry has been extremely slow to listen to the demands of its customers, and has had something of an abusive relationship with them, seeking to punish them before thinking of how to serve them better,”

This is why most ppl i know download

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624327 Anonymous Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:30:07 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624327 They should do more than 'stamp that out'! They should prosecute these bl00d svcking l33ches and force them to repay any monies gained from their extortion scheme! They should do more than ‘stamp that out’! They should prosecute these bl00d svcking l33ches and force them to repay any monies gained from their extortion scheme!

]]> By: Jimmyy http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624326 Jimmyy Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:25:06 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624326 AT LAST! AT LAST!

]]> By: a free thinker http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624325 a free thinker Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:20:21 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624325 They should do more than 'stamp that out'! They should prosecute these blood sucking leeches and force them to repay any monies gained from their extortion scheme! They should do more than ‘stamp that out’! They should prosecute these blood sucking leeches and force them to repay any monies gained from their extortion scheme!

]]> By: Cookie http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624323 Cookie Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:10:25 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624323 @mister_playboy LOL @mister_playboy LOL

]]> By: Anonymous http://torrentfreak.com/digital-economy-bill-lords-want-to-stamp-out-piracy-chasers-091208/#comment-624322 Anonymous Fri, 11 Dec 2009 12:10:01 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=19621#comment-624322 "for them to deal with per-to-peer file-sharing" per-to-peer should be peer-to-peer :P “for them to deal with per-to-peer file-sharing”

per-to-peer should be peer-to-peer :P

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