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		<title>By: The Nines Director: Forget Sundance, Use P2P Instead &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-438252</link>
		<dc:creator>The Nines Director: Forget Sundance, Use P2P Instead &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] leaked onto BitTorrent two weeks before its DVD release. August, as he made clear in a comment to Torrentfreak, wasn&#8217;t too upset about the leak: &#8220;I&#039;m not bouncy with joy over my movie getting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] leaked onto BitTorrent two weeks before its DVD release. August, as he made clear in a comment to Torrentfreak, wasn&#8217;t too upset about the leak: &#8220;I&#8217;m not bouncy with joy over my movie getting [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WhoCares</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-285360</link>
		<dc:creator>WhoCares</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Downloaded the nines a few weeks ago and recommended it to friends... Some of them took my advice and bought the movie (2 blue rays and 1 dvd copies)... It&#039;s better than if I would have bought the movie cause then I would have simply loaned it to my friends in turn =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downloaded the nines a few weeks ago and recommended it to friends&#8230; Some of them took my advice and bought the movie (2 blue rays and 1 dvd copies)&#8230; It&#8217;s better than if I would have bought the movie cause then I would have simply loaned it to my friends in turn =)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-270631</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 23:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I just watched The Nines- a couple times- it&#039;s that kind of movie, and it got me to go digging. John August is a pretty clever dude- it&#039;s already finished it&#039;s theater run in North America and it did not reach as much of an audience as he wanted (the distro company didn&#039;t feel the need to screen it too widely, just enough to get the reviews to push the DVD), so he&#039;s made this statement about p2p, I think, to get more people to watch it- probably worked, would be interesting to see if that&#039;s the case- both on his intention and on whether or not it worked to get more people seeing it.

As for what the movie is about, after watching it, check out Voltaire&#039;s Candide and specifically what it&#039;s saying about &quot;the best of all possible worlds&quot;, then watch the movie again...

As for Open Source Movie- check out:
http://www.elephantsdream.org/
http://peach.blender.org/
They are trying to get the ball rolling on that front...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just watched The Nines- a couple times- it&#8217;s that kind of movie, and it got me to go digging. John August is a pretty clever dude- it&#8217;s already finished it&#8217;s theater run in North America and it did not reach as much of an audience as he wanted (the distro company didn&#8217;t feel the need to screen it too widely, just enough to get the reviews to push the DVD), so he&#8217;s made this statement about p2p, I think, to get more people to watch it- probably worked, would be interesting to see if that&#8217;s the case- both on his intention and on whether or not it worked to get more people seeing it.</p>
<p>As for what the movie is about, after watching it, check out Voltaire&#8217;s Candide and specifically what it&#8217;s saying about &#8220;the best of all possible worlds&#8221;, then watch the movie again&#8230;</p>
<p>As for Open Source Movie- check out:<br />
<a href="http://www.elephantsdream.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.elephantsdream.org/</a><br />
<a href="http://peach.blender.org/" rel="nofollow">http://peach.blender.org/</a><br />
They are trying to get the ball rolling on that front&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-270171</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@42 Thanks for the idea, when i first saw it I&#039;d thought the idea was dumb &quot;lulz i&#039;ll cut out his ending and put in my own and call it a new movie&quot; But a fully open sourced movie is a possibility I hadn&#039;t thought of</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@42 Thanks for the idea, when i first saw it I&#8217;d thought the idea was dumb &#8220;lulz i&#8217;ll cut out his ending and put in my own and call it a new movie&#8221; But a fully open sourced movie is a possibility I hadn&#8217;t thought of</p>
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		<title>By: Smumdax</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-270118</link>
		<dc:creator>Smumdax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 07:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now there&#039;s an interesting concept... an open-sourced movie... A movie that would be made by everyone, with building versions released once in a while... or maybe a director approved version. Many many ideas could span out of this one little concept. very interesting. Imagine having a new category at the Academy Awards: &quot;Year&#039;s best public-cut movie&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now there&#8217;s an interesting concept&#8230; an open-sourced movie&#8230; A movie that would be made by everyone, with building versions released once in a while&#8230; or maybe a director approved version. Many many ideas could span out of this one little concept. very interesting. Imagine having a new category at the Academy Awards: &#8220;Year&#8217;s best public-cut movie&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Rycon</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-269778</link>
		<dc:creator>Rycon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok the other guy had a few valid points, you dont even have one.

If you read what i wrote initially i was saying the people that do thingsare people signing petitions, writing to politicians, studying law etc etc.

Downloading and uploading itself isnt actually doing anything for the &#039;movement&#039; that you are talking about.[/quote]


Ok i understand your point, and it is true that doing things like that helps, but how can you say that simply using this does not do anything? What is this without people using it? Wouldnt you agree that teaching other people about this technology, and showing them how to use it, and explaining to them the truth of what this all is instead of letting them believe in those horrible propaganda, is doing something? 

You show me a petition and il sign it, ive even donated, but I personally believe that just by me using this, showing other people, and informing other people, that I am supporting this. 

Not only that, but I have downloaded a band I like and there playing a hour away from me that I am going to go see, isnt that yet another point we are trying to put across? 

Support in the ways you can, even if its all you can do is to UPLOAD, thats giving something back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok the other guy had a few valid points, you dont even have one.</p>
<p>If you read what i wrote initially i was saying the people that do thingsare people signing petitions, writing to politicians, studying law etc etc.</p>
<p>Downloading and uploading itself isnt actually doing anything for the &#8216;movement&#8217; that you are talking about.[/quote]</p>
<p>Ok i understand your point, and it is true that doing things like that helps, but how can you say that simply using this does not do anything? What is this without people using it? Wouldnt you agree that teaching other people about this technology, and showing them how to use it, and explaining to them the truth of what this all is instead of letting them believe in those horrible propaganda, is doing something? </p>
<p>You show me a petition and il sign it, ive even donated, but I personally believe that just by me using this, showing other people, and informing other people, that I am supporting this. </p>
<p>Not only that, but I have downloaded a band I like and there playing a hour away from me that I am going to go see, isnt that yet another point we are trying to put across? </p>
<p>Support in the ways you can, even if its all you can do is to UPLOAD, thats giving something back.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-269660</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are paying in some form...with our time. Time IS money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are paying in some form&#8230;with our time. Time IS money.</p>
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		<title>By: hiyurrrr</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-269513</link>
		<dc:creator>hiyurrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;268962&quot;][quote comment=&quot;267347&quot;][quote comment=&quot;267297&quot;][quote comment=&quot;266598&quot;]You arent a member of the scene, and admin to a top site, a private tracker or a large public tracker, all you do is download/upload.[/quote]There are no real &#039;scenes&#039; left. Don&#039;t you get it yet? My 20 year old sister is perfectly able to rip a DVD, compress it and put it out there, anonymously if she wants to. This goes for crew-members in Hollywood, writers, technician, genitors, pissed-off MPAA-members, everybody can do it, there&#039;s not much to it with today&#039;s software and open information about it.

Stop trying to make some non-existing overlords into even less plausible gods. The scene is gone. Over with. Surpassed by its technological superiors. Multi-rarring content is for idiots. Get real.[/quote]

hahaha ok i dont even support the scene, but you sir are a moron.

The only good non scene movie releases were from axxo.

Yes anyone can rip the dvd and put it on, but who will download it. Who releases the dvd screeners? Who releases the cam versions?

You utter moron[/quote]

All you have proved is that your the sad one, you obviously dont get whats going on here, and made up allot of stuff in your head.

&#039;by anonymously downloading and redistributing copyright material.&#039;

hmmm.. hey uhh.. wait.. yess.. THATS WORKING! Omg! No way! YEAH YOU FUCKING IDIOT.. lol,

Open your eyes

This IS a movement, just because you don&#039;t want to be a part of it doesn&#039;t mean you can get on here and bash people, go the fuck away nobody gives a shit.

From once started a small community, has turned into a great unstoppable sea, we will wash away those who oppose.

You utter idiot.[/quote]


Ok the other guy had a few valid points, you dont even have one.



If you read what i wrote initially i was saying the people that do thingsare people signing petitions, writing to politicians, studying law etc etc.


Downloading and uploading itself isnt actually doing anything for the &#039;movement&#039; that you are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="268962"][quote comment="267347"][quote comment="267297"][quote comment="266598"]You arent a member of the scene, and admin to a top site, a private tracker or a large public tracker, all you do is download/upload.[/quote]There are no real &#8217;scenes&#8217; left. Don&#8217;t you get it yet? My 20 year old sister is perfectly able to rip a DVD, compress it and put it out there, anonymously if she wants to. This goes for crew-members in Hollywood, writers, technician, genitors, pissed-off MPAA-members, everybody can do it, there&#8217;s not much to it with today&#8217;s software and open information about it.</p>
<p>Stop trying to make some non-existing overlords into even less plausible gods. The scene is gone. Over with. Surpassed by its technological superiors. Multi-rarring content is for idiots. Get real.[/quote]</p>
<p>hahaha ok i dont even support the scene, but you sir are a moron.</p>
<p>The only good non scene movie releases were from axxo.</p>
<p>Yes anyone can rip the dvd and put it on, but who will download it. Who releases the dvd screeners? Who releases the cam versions?</p>
<p>You utter moron[/quote]</p>
<p>All you have proved is that your the sad one, you obviously dont get whats going on here, and made up allot of stuff in your head.</p>
<p>&#8216;by anonymously downloading and redistributing copyright material.&#8217;</p>
<p>hmmm.. hey uhh.. wait.. yess.. THATS WORKING! Omg! No way! YEAH YOU FUCKING IDIOT.. lol,</p>
<p>Open your eyes</p>
<p>This IS a movement, just because you don&#8217;t want to be a part of it doesn&#8217;t mean you can get on here and bash people, go the fuck away nobody gives a shit.</p>
<p>From once started a small community, has turned into a great unstoppable sea, we will wash away those who oppose.</p>
<p>You utter idiot.[/quote]</p>
<p>Ok the other guy had a few valid points, you dont even have one.</p>
<p>If you read what i wrote initially i was saying the people that do thingsare people signing petitions, writing to politicians, studying law etc etc.</p>
<p>Downloading and uploading itself isnt actually doing anything for the &#8216;movement&#8217; that you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Rycon</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-268962</link>
		<dc:creator>Rycon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;267347&quot;][quote comment=&quot;267297&quot;][quote comment=&quot;266598&quot;]You arent a member of the scene, and admin to a top site, a private tracker or a large public tracker, all you do is download/upload.[/quote]There are no real &#039;scenes&#039; left. Don&#039;t you get it yet? My 20 year old sister is perfectly able to rip a DVD, compress it and put it out there, anonymously if she wants to. This goes for crew-members in Hollywood, writers, technician, genitors, pissed-off MPAA-members, everybody can do it, there&#039;s not much to it with today&#039;s software and open information about it.

Stop trying to make some non-existing overlords into even less plausible gods. The scene is gone. Over with. Surpassed by its technological superiors. Multi-rarring content is for idiots. Get real.[/quote]

hahaha ok i dont even support the scene, but you sir are a moron.

The only good non scene movie releases were from axxo.

Yes anyone can rip the dvd and put it on, but who will download it. Who releases the dvd screeners? Who releases the cam versions?

You utter moron[/quote]

All you have proved is that your the sad one, you obviously dont get whats going on here, and made up allot of stuff in your head.

&#039;by anonymously downloading and redistributing copyright material.&#039; 

hmmm.. hey uhh.. wait.. yess.. THATS WORKING! Omg! No way! YEAH YOU FUCKING IDIOT.. lol, 

Open your eyes

This IS a movement, just because you don&#039;t want to be a part of it doesn&#039;t mean you can get on here and bash people, go the fuck away nobody gives a shit.

From once started a small community, has turned into a great unstoppable sea, we will wash away those who oppose.

You utter idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="267347"][quote comment="267297"][quote comment="266598"]You arent a member of the scene, and admin to a top site, a private tracker or a large public tracker, all you do is download/upload.[/quote]There are no real &#8217;scenes&#8217; left. Don&#8217;t you get it yet? My 20 year old sister is perfectly able to rip a DVD, compress it and put it out there, anonymously if she wants to. This goes for crew-members in Hollywood, writers, technician, genitors, pissed-off MPAA-members, everybody can do it, there&#8217;s not much to it with today&#8217;s software and open information about it.</p>
<p>Stop trying to make some non-existing overlords into even less plausible gods. The scene is gone. Over with. Surpassed by its technological superiors. Multi-rarring content is for idiots. Get real.[/quote]</p>
<p>hahaha ok i dont even support the scene, but you sir are a moron.</p>
<p>The only good non scene movie releases were from axxo.</p>
<p>Yes anyone can rip the dvd and put it on, but who will download it. Who releases the dvd screeners? Who releases the cam versions?</p>
<p>You utter moron[/quote]</p>
<p>All you have proved is that your the sad one, you obviously dont get whats going on here, and made up allot of stuff in your head.</p>
<p>&#8216;by anonymously downloading and redistributing copyright material.&#8217; </p>
<p>hmmm.. hey uhh.. wait.. yess.. THATS WORKING! Omg! No way! YEAH YOU FUCKING IDIOT.. lol, </p>
<p>Open your eyes</p>
<p>This IS a movement, just because you don&#8217;t want to be a part of it doesn&#8217;t mean you can get on here and bash people, go the fuck away nobody gives a shit.</p>
<p>From once started a small community, has turned into a great unstoppable sea, we will wash away those who oppose.</p>
<p>You utter idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: neko</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-268663</link>
		<dc:creator>neko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just wanted to check in - after reading that other article and this one grabbed &#039;the nines&#039; and watched that bugger - wonderful movie ^^
[just might buy the bd]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wanted to check in &#8211; after reading that other article and this one grabbed &#8216;the nines&#8217; and watched that bugger &#8211; wonderful movie ^^<br />
[just might buy the bd]</p>
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		<title>By: surge</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-268652</link>
		<dc:creator>surge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;268185&quot;]This guy should be happy that people are willing to waste bandwidth on this retarded movie... One of the worst I&#039;ve seen in a while... Thank god I could fast forward through the AVI... I know this is OT and pointless but common... This is youtube material at best.[/quote]

Yeah well, this movie wasn&#039;t made for complete morons who just want to sit and stare at an idiot box without actually thinking to themselves what&#039;s going on.  

It&#039;s called an imagination and a brain, and I personally enjoy movies like this better than the average &quot;joe Q. stupid&quot; movies that require very little mental capacity to comprehend the theme.

It&#039;s really cool to see the directory recognizing that the internet is a great way to distribute indie films.  Hopefully someday we will be able to download them directly from the people that make them.

I personally think what radiohead did with &quot;in rainbows&quot; is the best way to go.  If you like it, support them.  If you don&#039;t, then don&#039;t give them any money and delete the files.  Either way, it cuts out the greedy pigs that are the MPAA/RIAA and gives the money right to the artists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="268185"]This guy should be happy that people are willing to waste bandwidth on this retarded movie&#8230; One of the worst I&#8217;ve seen in a while&#8230; Thank god I could fast forward through the AVI&#8230; I know this is OT and pointless but common&#8230; This is youtube material at best.[/quote]</p>
<p>Yeah well, this movie wasn&#8217;t made for complete morons who just want to sit and stare at an idiot box without actually thinking to themselves what&#8217;s going on.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s called an imagination and a brain, and I personally enjoy movies like this better than the average &#8220;joe Q. stupid&#8221; movies that require very little mental capacity to comprehend the theme.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really cool to see the directory recognizing that the internet is a great way to distribute indie films.  Hopefully someday we will be able to download them directly from the people that make them.</p>
<p>I personally think what radiohead did with &#8220;in rainbows&#8221; is the best way to go.  If you like it, support them.  If you don&#8217;t, then don&#8217;t give them any money and delete the files.  Either way, it cuts out the greedy pigs that are the MPAA/RIAA and gives the money right to the artists.</p>
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		<title>By: wack</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-268185</link>
		<dc:creator>wack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy should be happy that people are willing to waste bandwidth on this retarded movie... One of the worst I&#039;ve seen in a while... Thank god I could fast forward through the AVI... I know this is OT and pointless but common... This is youtube material at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy should be happy that people are willing to waste bandwidth on this retarded movie&#8230; One of the worst I&#8217;ve seen in a while&#8230; Thank god I could fast forward through the AVI&#8230; I know this is OT and pointless but common&#8230; This is youtube material at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Hello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the business model will have to change, and in the process, stakeholders in will resist progress to protect their interests. 

As in the industrial revolution, people will get hurt as modes of operation transition from old to new.

Exactly how it will pan out is not clear, but that it will... is inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the business model will have to change, and in the process, stakeholders in will resist progress to protect their interests. </p>
<p>As in the industrial revolution, people will get hurt as modes of operation transition from old to new.</p>
<p>Exactly how it will pan out is not clear, but that it will&#8230; is inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: hiyurrrr</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/director-of-the-nines-talks-to-torrentfreak-080118/#comment-267589</link>
		<dc:creator>hiyurrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good filme by the way.


very good could have eben a bit more open ended, but an interesting concept all the same.</description>
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<p>very good could have eben a bit more open ended, but an interesting concept all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: jim collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I DL it it&#039;s because it&#039;s not playing in DC that I&#039;m aware of and not available on DVD. I have a NetFlix membership and go to the movies every weekend so it&#039;s not like I&#039;m some kind of bloodsucking leech...
If I DL a movie using BT it&#039;s not like thats one less DVD sale, it&#039;s one less DVD rental from my NetFlix account, which I pay a fixed rate for anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I DL it it&#8217;s because it&#8217;s not playing in DC that I&#8217;m aware of and not available on DVD. I have a NetFlix membership and go to the movies every weekend so it&#8217;s not like I&#8217;m some kind of bloodsucking leech&#8230;<br />
If I DL a movie using BT it&#8217;s not like thats one less DVD sale, it&#8217;s one less DVD rental from my NetFlix account, which I pay a fixed rate for anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: philbu</title>
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		<dc:creator>philbu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 20:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have to change their business model, plain and simple. If I can download a high quality copy of a DVD for 3-5 dollars, I&#039;m in. Anything else is bullshit. Mr. August should realize that most downloaders have grabbed his movie because they heard about it and wanted to see it. That&#039;s how it works. The total sum of folks sitting at their computers rubbing their hands together and thinking, &quot;ahh, how many flicks can I download today so I can stick it to the man&quot; is negligible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have to change their business model, plain and simple. If I can download a high quality copy of a DVD for 3-5 dollars, I&#8217;m in. Anything else is bullshit. Mr. August should realize that most downloaders have grabbed his movie because they heard about it and wanted to see it. That&#8217;s how it works. The total sum of folks sitting at their computers rubbing their hands together and thinking, &#8220;ahh, how many flicks can I download today so I can stick it to the man&#8221; is negligible.</p>
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		<title>By: Hello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copying digital content is not on par with physical theft.  Physical items have a line-item product cost, where cost and value can be tracked from production through distribution and consumption.

In contrast, content authors expect to monetize the consumption of their works despite the lack of per-item production cost.  Of course, the mainstream production and distribution mediums do have associated cost/profit, so it is natural to protect that against unmanaged consumption.  

Intellection work should be compensated, but equating physical theft and digital copying is falsified from a comparison between traditional product models and file sharing.

The desire to protect traditional revenue models that control content consumption through managed distribution channels does not by itself justify the continued existence of those same models.  For the current industry to succeed, it needs to protect its interests, and currently, its interest is to protect its current business model.  However, it promotes the actual business model currently in force rather than acknowledge potentially differing models that might better reflect the value consumers place on content.  

If content becomes commoditized to its full extent, it may come to pass that the production of cultural works gets compensated at the cost of production, rather than the rate of consumption (i.e. the rate of copying). 

The quantity of consumption of a product made is certainly not equivalent to the ratio involved in physical products, since a consumer may watch a purchased DVD multiple times.

More later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copying digital content is not on par with physical theft.  Physical items have a line-item product cost, where cost and value can be tracked from production through distribution and consumption.</p>
<p>In contrast, content authors expect to monetize the consumption of their works despite the lack of per-item production cost.  Of course, the mainstream production and distribution mediums do have associated cost/profit, so it is natural to protect that against unmanaged consumption.  </p>
<p>Intellection work should be compensated, but equating physical theft and digital copying is falsified from a comparison between traditional product models and file sharing.</p>
<p>The desire to protect traditional revenue models that control content consumption through managed distribution channels does not by itself justify the continued existence of those same models.  For the current industry to succeed, it needs to protect its interests, and currently, its interest is to protect its current business model.  However, it promotes the actual business model currently in force rather than acknowledge potentially differing models that might better reflect the value consumers place on content.  </p>
<p>If content becomes commoditized to its full extent, it may come to pass that the production of cultural works gets compensated at the cost of production, rather than the rate of consumption (i.e. the rate of copying). </p>
<p>The quantity of consumption of a product made is certainly not equivalent to the ratio involved in physical products, since a consumer may watch a purchased DVD multiple times.</p>
<p>More later.</p>
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		<title>By: Superior1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superior1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;267347&quot;]Yes anyone can rip the dvd and put it on, but who will download it. Who releases the dvd screeners? Who releases the cam versions?[/quote]
The people release it. That&#039;s why it&#039;s called P2P. The people keeping &#039;the scene&#039; alive as some type of &#039;special world&#039; are all pretend. Those idiots now get their so called releases from people like you and me, and sometimes even multipack them to make them look &#039;scene&#039;.

And no, the best quality rips are from experts. They are not &quot;scene&quot;. In fact, my own rips are higher quality because I&#039;m a professional in the field.
Screeners are picked up by crew-members in production studios, cams and telecines are done by average kids working in the right places, R5&#039;s are from plain movie-theatre employees in the East, they&#039;re not special burglars or something. Trust me, you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re writing about. There is no &#039;scene&#039; left, your &#039;top-sites&#039; are kept alive for a bunch of retards living in the dark ages. Any high-bandwidth user has their own &#039;top-site&#039; right at their own PC. BitTorrent has a much higher footprint as a medium than ANY thinkable old &#039;scene&#039; method. Plus it doesn&#039;t require the bullshit user-unfriendly multi-packing nonsense.

So you are the retarded moron. Get a clue, grow up. I&#039;m 42 years old, I know where this &#039;scene&#039; thing comes from. It&#039;s over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="267347"]Yes anyone can rip the dvd and put it on, but who will download it. Who releases the dvd screeners? Who releases the cam versions?[/quote]<br />
The people release it. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s called P2P. The people keeping &#8216;the scene&#8217; alive as some type of &#8217;special world&#8217; are all pretend. Those idiots now get their so called releases from people like you and me, and sometimes even multipack them to make them look &#8217;scene&#8217;.</p>
<p>And no, the best quality rips are from experts. They are not &#8220;scene&#8221;. In fact, my own rips are higher quality because I&#8217;m a professional in the field.<br />
Screeners are picked up by crew-members in production studios, cams and telecines are done by average kids working in the right places, R5&#8217;s are from plain movie-theatre employees in the East, they&#8217;re not special burglars or something. Trust me, you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re writing about. There is no &#8217;scene&#8217; left, your &#8216;top-sites&#8217; are kept alive for a bunch of retards living in the dark ages. Any high-bandwidth user has their own &#8216;top-site&#8217; right at their own PC. BitTorrent has a much higher footprint as a medium than ANY thinkable old &#8217;scene&#8217; method. Plus it doesn&#8217;t require the bullshit user-unfriendly multi-packing nonsense.</p>
<p>So you are the retarded moron. Get a clue, grow up. I&#8217;m 42 years old, I know where this &#8217;scene&#8217; thing comes from. It&#8217;s over.</p>
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		<title>By: hiyurrrr</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;267297&quot;][quote comment=&quot;266598&quot;]You arent a member of the scene, and admin to a top site, a private tracker or a large public tracker, all you do is download/upload.[/quote]There are no real &#039;scenes&#039; left. Don&#039;t you get it yet? My 20 year old sister is perfectly able to rip a DVD, compress it and put it out there, anonymously if she wants to. This goes for crew-members in Hollywood, writers, technician, genitors, pissed-off MPAA-members, everybody can do it, there&#039;s not much to it with today&#039;s software and open information about it.

Stop trying to make some non-existing overlords into even less plausible gods. The scene is gone. Over with. Surpassed by its technological superiors. Multi-rarring content is for idiots. Get real.[/quote]




hahaha ok i dont even support the scene, but you sir are a moron.

The only good non scene movie releases were from axxo. 

Yes anyone can rip the dvd and put it on, but who will download it. Who releases the dvd screeners? Who releases the cam versions?


You utter moron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="267297"][quote comment="266598"]You arent a member of the scene, and admin to a top site, a private tracker or a large public tracker, all you do is download/upload.[/quote]There are no real &#8217;scenes&#8217; left. Don&#8217;t you get it yet? My 20 year old sister is perfectly able to rip a DVD, compress it and put it out there, anonymously if she wants to. This goes for crew-members in Hollywood, writers, technician, genitors, pissed-off MPAA-members, everybody can do it, there&#8217;s not much to it with today&#8217;s software and open information about it.</p>
<p>Stop trying to make some non-existing overlords into even less plausible gods. The scene is gone. Over with. Surpassed by its technological superiors. Multi-rarring content is for idiots. Get real.[/quote]</p>
<p>hahaha ok i dont even support the scene, but you sir are a moron.</p>
<p>The only good non scene movie releases were from axxo. </p>
<p>Yes anyone can rip the dvd and put it on, but who will download it. Who releases the dvd screeners? Who releases the cam versions?</p>
<p>You utter moron</p>
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		<title>By: Superior1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superior1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;266598&quot;]You arent a member of the scene, and admin to a top site, a private tracker or a large public tracker, all you do is download/upload.[/quote]There are no real &#039;scenes&#039; left. Don&#039;t you get it yet? My 20 year old sister is perfectly able to rip a DVD, compress it and put it out there, anonymously if she wants to. This goes for crew-members in Hollywood, writers, technician, genitors, pissed-off MPAA-members, everybody can do it, there&#039;s not much to it with today&#039;s software and open information about it.

Stop trying to make some non-existing overlords into even less plausible gods. The scene is gone. Over with. Surpassed by its technological superiors. Multi-rarring content is for idiots. Get real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="266598"]You arent a member of the scene, and admin to a top site, a private tracker or a large public tracker, all you do is download/upload.[/quote]There are no real &#8217;scenes&#8217; left. Don&#8217;t you get it yet? My 20 year old sister is perfectly able to rip a DVD, compress it and put it out there, anonymously if she wants to. This goes for crew-members in Hollywood, writers, technician, genitors, pissed-off MPAA-members, everybody can do it, there&#8217;s not much to it with today&#8217;s software and open information about it.</p>
<p>Stop trying to make some non-existing overlords into even less plausible gods. The scene is gone. Over with. Surpassed by its technological superiors. Multi-rarring content is for idiots. Get real.</p>
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