Excellent article – thanks for sharing!…

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~Fransw

Peace.

I feel the lossleader pricing at the big chains makes buying a movie pn DVD a good option. Especially when compared to going to the theater.

I’ll always think this way, as long as it remains as such, the thing is, with the new formats out, I don’t think it will.

Even at lossleader prices, Blu-Ray and HD DVD are priced very unfairly at $29.99 a pop. If the prices remain as such, when they finally whipe regular DVDs off the main market, I will think the same way no longer. Of course, one can hope the price drops as the popularity grows, but that doesn’t see mto be the trend with things anymore. I will not pay $29.99 for a movie, period, and anyone who does, is a fool. Nope, if the price levels off at over $20, you bet your ass i’ll start downloading movies.

Perhaps if the Director / cast & crew ran a site with “Donate here if you liked our film” Paypal-type link, they would get a lot of ‘downloaders’ chipping in. I certainly would. And it might help them gain a little freedom away from the MPAA, which as the 1st poster correctly points out, dont give a f*ck about viewers – just dollars.

I am definately addding this movie to my list of movies to get.

http://moviestoget.blogspot.com

Creators and studios don’t make a cut of the rental profit, only from the sale of those DVDs to rental outlets.

However, when railing against movie studios, don’t forget that studio workers need paid too (grips, gaffers, PAs, various other set helpers) and their money comes from the Big Studio profits, not from directors, writers or actors.
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I used to buy DVDs for any movie I liked but now I only buy DVDs of movies I think will merit multiple viewings.

Two things need to be removed from DVDs before I increase my buying:
1) All advertising except other movie trailers.
2) All piracy warnings. Stop threatening me with jail on the very thing I have already purchased.

Should neither of these criteria be filled, my only other option is to buy a DVD, rip the movie and extra features and re-burn it to a DVD-R, then selling the one I purchased.
Sure, I won’t have the fancy packaging (sometimes the reason I buy a new version of a movie, damned vanilla packaging!) but at the least I will have the film I paid for, without all the invasive ads and piracy warnings.

http://arlof.com/

torrentfreak.com

The director of the hit 2007 movie The Nines says hes been monitoring BitTorrent…

Lots of us download because we don’t want to (or are unable to) go to the cinema – or maybe we’re just too lazy. Whatever. Take a chance on us and post your movie for download, and I (and I hope plenty of others) will demonstrate that we’re happy to pay for it.

I can assure any director, that if I download a film that I like, I will buy it as soon at it appears on DVD. This is how I shop for DVDs. I do not download many movies. Instead i wait a while and get opinions from people I trust. I then download the movie and watch it. I have purchased more than 95% of all movies I have downloaded that have appeared on DVD for sale. I have a short list of four movies I am waiting for DVD release today.

Yes, I do have a massive collection of original DVDs.

I cannot speak for every person that uses file sharing, but for some of us, it is the way we window shop for DVDs.

http://musicforhumans1.blogspot.com/

C’mon,cut creators some slack! Sure people do things because they like to do them, but we also do things because we HAVE to do them (to get money; a necessary part of life, try living without it).

At #11 (poster)
[quote comment="264826"]The real problem is, that there is no way to donate money to the producers/actors/director of a movie.
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I WANT these people to make a decent living out of their art.

I WANT them to be able to continue their work.

And I WANT to give money to those who deserve it!
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EXACTLY!!! i COMPLETELY agree, and I think this is one of the single most important concepts, with the single greatest significance to all involved (especially prosecutors!). To all other creators out there, please take note!

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But the MAFIAA and the content industry takes and holds them hostage!
They don’t give me any opportunity to SUPPORT the artists and producers!
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Exactly! I mean, even assuming that everyone in the support crew has been paid ($50,000 to this guy to be lead soundmixer etc.) the musicians and creators should still get money – I WANT to give them money; they’re doing a great job!

[quote comment="264826"]
They want to force me to pay ridiculous amount’s of money ($18-25) for their plastic products of questionable content (DVDs and BRs worth physically $0.25) and almost none of the money goes to those who deserve it!
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True! But sad. _Is_ the content worth that much of a mark-up? Is it necessary for them to charge us so much? The costs for the project were finite; once its paid off, PLEASE drop the price/markup on your product to something reasonable (heck, do it sooner!).

[quote comment="264826"]
I understand that there are a lot of jerks out their that want to make money without deserving it.
Of course a lot of people don’t want that to happen!
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Here’s a picture for your imagination: record companies that invest an initial fee in the music, then release it online; no more law, no more lawyers. Tell me a record company wouldn’t save boatloads of money if it only employed a tenth (or less) of the lawyers it does now!
No sirree bob; of course the lawyers are against simplifying the media, freeing the artists, and accepting the 21rst century!

[quote comment="264826"]
So with the internet nothing gained (except my experience and the positive publicity!), but nothing lost either!
(No money lost, because you wouldn’t have gotten anything from me in the first place without internet! DO YOU GET THAT, MPAA!?!)
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Fuckin’ A bubba! Fuckin’ A!!!!!

[quote comment="264826"]
In contrary, if Johnn August would set up an internet site that enables me to DONATE MONEY I probably would drop in some dollars after I watched the movie and did enjoy it (as many thousands if not millions of others as well!) IF I ONLY HAD BEEN GIVEN THE CHANCE!
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Hell yes I agree; in a heartbeat I would give some of my expendable income to the creators of the tv, movies, and music I like – I want more of it, don’t I ?!?

[quote comment="264826"]
Therefor with the internet present there would be a great potential for both, the consumer (me) and the artists (John August and his coworkers in this case) to benefit mutually – if only they would be smart enough to make it possible on their side!
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True.

You know what poster / #11?
I didn’t add any new information to your article, and I couldn’t; its just to complete, simple, perfect and true. And can’t even think of a closing statement, so I’ll just say:
You are bang – on!!!

I agree with his view of the renting aspect. After the last four movies i’ve… watched… i’ve made the decision and go out and buy them when they are available.

it’s unfortunate that some of the money spent on the purchase will find it’s way to the MPAA

Good attitude, we will spare you come our revolution. Haha jk

Your smart in the fact that you know we cannot be stopped, you have accepted the truth and you will benefit from it in the future.

Understand that some people simply dont have the money or dont want to see it at a big screen.. also understand that some people (Like me) hate those organizations that protect your movie and I will do anything to see them fall. I would rather download your movie then pick it up brand new for free.

Think about that, thats what our community is trying to change.

But how to manage it? How to keep the uploaders identity secure?

Thanks for da great movie Mr.John August!

Hope it lives up to the hype.

I download a lot of movies from bittorrent.

Some I’m glad I never went to cinema for and didn’t pay any money at all.

Some I do like so much that I actually go to the cinema to watch them again or by the DVD later (very few indeed!).

Most movies I like but I don’t want to watch them again or even through senseless money into the MPAA-machinery of making money that doesn’t find it’s way to the actual producers, actors, director and writers(!) of that particular movie.

That’s where the system is ill down to it’s core:
There is no way to give money for those movies I liked to watch actually to the people who MADE it!!!

I’d LOVE to donate minor amounts of money for those movies/products I ENJOYED to consume (and millions of others alike would make a fortune!), because I liked the movie, I enjoyed it – and I WANT more movies to be produced by these people.

I WANT these people to make a decent living out of their art.

I WANT them to be able to continue their work.

And I WANT to give money to those who deserve it!

But the MAFIAA and the content industry takes and holds them hostage!
They don’t give me any opportunity to SUPPORT the artists and producers!

They want to force me to pay ridiculous amount’s of money (fantasy prices) for their plastic products of questionable content (DVDs and BRs) and almost none of the money goes to those who deserve it!

The same with music: I’d LOVE to BUY (single) songs I really enjoy and like to listen to – for a reasonable(!) price (50 cents!) that gets to the ARTIST and is worth it to me!
But I HATE to have to spent 15$ or more for an album compiled mostly of songs I don’t especially like at all (or pay the music industries fantasy prices (2$) on “legal” online offerings that for that amount not necessarily find it’s way to the artist and producers in a fair share!)

Consequently I don’t spent any money for music at all (and only now and then go to the cinema or buy a DVD if I really “WANT TO”
(and I will never “HAVE TO”! – that’s not in the MPAAs power to determine although they constantly try to force it (DRM), and fail miserably because IT’S NOT IN THEIR HANDS TO CONTROL OUR INTENTIONS! – But the just don’t get it.)

I understand that there are a lot of jerks out their that want to make money without deserving it.

If the industry would change to a content industry based on good will and support a lot of people would loose their income (as they already do today!) and the money would go more to those, who actually deserve it!
Of cause a lot of poeple don’t want that to happen!

And there are as well the artists that might fear this open system as well.
Some wouldn’t sell their albums anymore – they might have to realise that their customers only want selected products (songs) and NOT EVERYTHING they do unquestioned. That might be a hard lesson to learn for some immature artists as well.

And for the movie “the nines” in particular:
I probably would have failed it in the cinema anyway. It might be a good movie but I don’t know it and it’s probably not a “save bet” I assume I will enjoy beforehand and hence go to the cinema and spent quite some money to watch.

Hence without internet I wouldn’t know it and I wouldn’t spent any money for it in the first place!

Now I’ve learned about it (from the bittorrent community!) and I will probably download it and give it a try! I probably won’t watch it again in the cinema afterwards!
So with the internet nothing gained (exept my experience and the positive publicity!), but nothing lost either!
(No money lost, because you wouldn’t have gotten anything from me in the first place without internet! DO YOU GET THAT, MPAA!?!)

In contrary, if Johnn August would set up an internet site that enables me to DONATE MONEY I probably would drop in some dollars after I watched the movie and did enjoy it (as many thousands if not millions of others as well!) IF I ONLY HAD BEEN GIVEN THE CHANCE!

Therefor with the internet present there would be a great potential for both, the consumer (me) and the artists (John August and his coworkers in this case) to benefit mutually – if only they would be smart enough to make it possible on their side!

I’m for my side learned to use the new opportunities to profit from.

It’s the content industries and artists obligation to mature and to learn to profit from it as well.

And of cause some will just have to learn to vanish and make their living in more decent ways – but believe me, they don’t deserve otherwise! As for that: MPAA you SUCK, GO DIE!!

Why doesn’t the artists start to open up internet sites to collect money directly for their work! Yes, the MPAA wouldn’t like that: the intellectual “property” industrie would be short cutted.

But maybe it’s time for the artist, directors, writers and producers to become more illegal!

I’d like to see the first directors and actors beeing sued by the industry for collecting donations from their fans and voluntary supporters (who might actually happen to have enjoyed their products from illegal sources free of charge. Oops, but who knows (and who can prove) why there happen to be donations?).

Wouldn’t it be interested, if both systems would coexist and the best system would prevail?

Maybe even both would have their fair share of the market and enable people to make their living (like open source and propretary software?)

Actually: wouldn’t it be interesting if directors and actors start to share their public income by donating (and paying) writers and producers who made their work possible but are not standing in the front line of publicity to make their fortune?

What kind of freaky world would that be, based on suppporting and giving voluntarily?
What a frightening world of sharing and contributing?

So how much would a writer or director receive for a typical DVD hire?
Just in case I’d like to reimburse them after I download it…

Anyways i thought Directors were extinct since MPAA claims all movies as their creations and property..

This is why I pirate movies. I cant stand being surrounded by you stupid mouth breathers for and hour and half.

Thats what i do with all the movies i like. Not immediately when it is released, but rather when the price has dropped or some special version comes available.

Use the new technology, mr John August, and let the big money machines (Sony, Interpol and the MPAA) die in hell. They are chasing YOUR public, realise that.

on-topic: I hope to see more directors/produces changing their view on piracy because in the end you create a movie to entertain people and if you dont like the fact that people are willing to download YOUR movie with all the risks attached than you are a bad producer.

than you simply do it for the money. :)

side note: if youre one of those people that talk during a movie, you DESERVE cancer at the very least. the movie theater is NOT your living room, shut the fuck up.

MPAA just don’t give a damn, they just want a % of your wallet.