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		<title>By: Faulty Reasoning</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-533627</link>
		<dc:creator>Faulty Reasoning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15 Reasoned Mind

&quot;And I doubt very much if government is simply going to roll over and hand this remarkable domain over to anarchy.&quot;

Government can not &quot;hand over&quot; that which they do not possess. Cyberspace has never been the property or domain of governments or corporations. Nor will it ever. It has, is, and will always be the great equalizer, the leveling of the playing field. It is owned by all and the fact that you equate ownership by all/ownership by none as anarchy exposes you as one who has no reasoning mind because you automatically assume dominion by, and subservience to, governments and corporations. You, sir, are the typical mindless drone preferring to live on your knees letting Big Brother do your thinking for you. And it is time for you to wake up and unplug. A free man reasons and thinks for himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@15 Reasoned Mind</p>
<p>&#8220;And I doubt very much if government is simply going to roll over and hand this remarkable domain over to anarchy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Government can not &#8220;hand over&#8221; that which they do not possess. Cyberspace has never been the property or domain of governments or corporations. Nor will it ever. It has, is, and will always be the great equalizer, the leveling of the playing field. It is owned by all and the fact that you equate ownership by all/ownership by none as anarchy exposes you as one who has no reasoning mind because you automatically assume dominion by, and subservience to, governments and corporations. You, sir, are the typical mindless drone preferring to live on your knees letting Big Brother do your thinking for you. And it is time for you to wake up and unplug. A free man reasons and thinks for himself.</p>
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		<title>By: 40</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-533184</link>
		<dc:creator>40</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 21:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@40:  Can I stamp &#039;EPIC FAIL&#039; on your forehead?  You, sir, are an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@40:  Can I stamp &#8216;EPIC FAIL&#8217; on your forehead?  You, sir, are an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: GamerZFX</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532832</link>
		<dc:creator>GamerZFX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 04:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@5

Your a retard... However I think its sad that you can only download at 1-5kbps are you on dail up?!?! lol.. What private tracker are you using :P Demonoid?!? lol get SCC, GFT, TL, ScT, etc and then say that its slow! I get a minimum of 700kbps at SCC, GFT, and TL!! Most of the time I get 800kbps-2mbps anyways.. When I use my seedbox i dl at over 10 mbps.. so thats slow huh?? All I have is cable internet and I get around 1mbps on private trackers!! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5</p>
<p>Your a retard&#8230; However I think its sad that you can only download at 1-5kbps are you on dail up?!?! lol.. What private tracker are you using :P Demonoid?!? lol get SCC, GFT, TL, ScT, etc and then say that its slow! I get a minimum of 700kbps at SCC, GFT, and TL!! Most of the time I get 800kbps-2mbps anyways.. When I use my seedbox i dl at over 10 mbps.. so thats slow huh?? All I have is cable internet and I get around 1mbps on private trackers!! lol</p>
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		<title>By: Drive In -teatterissa luvatta kuvannut kiinni Australiassa - FrontView</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532700</link>
		<dc:creator>Drive In -teatterissa luvatta kuvannut kiinni Australiassa - FrontView</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 17:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on kielletty lailla monissa maissa. Näin myös Australiassa, jossa New South Walesin poliisi pidätti Sydneyn alueella asuvan miehen epäiltynä 18 tekijänoikeusrikoksesta, joihin kuuluu mm. elokuvien [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on kielletty lailla monissa maissa. Näin myös Australiassa, jossa New South Walesin poliisi pidätti Sydneyn alueella asuvan miehen epäiltynä 18 tekijänoikeusrikoksesta, joihin kuuluu mm. elokuvien [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532579</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sweden
&quot;    Just to point out, the three private trackers I use max my 100 Mbit/s connection. Most of the time I get about 6 MB/s, about the same as I got when downloading W7 beta from MS. Never had any more than 6 MB/s.

    Choose your trackers more wisely next time, sir.&quot;

Care to give any clues which trackers these are?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sweden<br />
&#8221;    Just to point out, the three private trackers I use max my 100 Mbit/s connection. Most of the time I get about 6 MB/s, about the same as I got when downloading W7 beta from MS. Never had any more than 6 MB/s.</p>
<p>    Choose your trackers more wisely next time, sir.&#8221;</p>
<p>Care to give any clues which trackers these are?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532562</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10ch.org says-

    I sense a trend, that, if not reversed, will result in a 1984-like police state, all due to copyright.

      ~~~~~~VERY TRUE~~~~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10ch.org says-</p>
<p>    I sense a trend, that, if not reversed, will result in a 1984-like police state, all due to copyright.</p>
<p>      ~~~~~~VERY TRUE~~~~~~</p>
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		<title>By: Drive-in ‘Scene’ Movie Cammer Arrested &#124; TorrentFreak &#124; www.moviecinema.com</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532532</link>
		<dc:creator>Drive-in ‘Scene’ Movie Cammer Arrested &#124; TorrentFreak &#124; www.moviecinema.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the rest here:  Drive-in ‘Scene’ Movie Cammer Arrested &#124; TorrentFreak    Share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: stuffies</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532486</link>
		<dc:creator>stuffies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only n00bs watch CAM&#039;s and TS&#039;s.

1080p FTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only n00bs watch CAM&#8217;s and TS&#8217;s.</p>
<p>1080p FTW.</p>
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		<title>By: insert name here</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532431</link>
		<dc:creator>insert name here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just realized you have to type a name, unlike last week when you could just leave it blank like other sites *4chan*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just realized you have to type a name, unlike last week when you could just leave it blank like other sites *4chan*</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532429</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cinema where the offences were made

http://www.greaterunion.com.au/cinemas/cinema.asp?Cinema=6

http://www.drive-insdownunder.com.au/australian/nsw_blacktown.htm

i&#039;ve been there once...think it was to see Crocodile Dundee in LA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cinema where the offences were made</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greaterunion.com.au/cinemas/cinema.asp?Cinema=6" rel="nofollow">http://www.greaterunion.com.au/cinemas/cinema.asp?Cinema=6</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.drive-insdownunder.com.au/australian/nsw_blacktown.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.drive-insdownunder.com.au/australian/nsw_blacktown.htm</a></p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been there once&#8230;think it was to see Crocodile Dundee in LA</p>
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		<title>By: Now if only...</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532417</link>
		<dc:creator>Now if only...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No jail time for this person, can&#039;t prove the camera was for recording at the drive in when it&#039;s in a car.

NubCakes...oh sorry i&#039;m mean reasoned mind, you&#039;re about to die out with the rest of the dinosaurs.

2010 is the beginning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No jail time for this person, can&#8217;t prove the camera was for recording at the drive in when it&#8217;s in a car.</p>
<p>NubCakes&#8230;oh sorry i&#8217;m mean reasoned mind, you&#8217;re about to die out with the rest of the dinosaurs.</p>
<p>2010 is the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: @Reasoned Mind</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532412</link>
		<dc:creator>@Reasoned Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Idiot, be glad you are using internet with anonymacy.

If &quot;pirates&quot; were retaliating as hard as you and the scumbags lobbyists are intending to do, you would live your last days by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Idiot, be glad you are using internet with anonymacy.</p>
<p>If &#8220;pirates&#8221; were retaliating as hard as you and the scumbags lobbyists are intending to do, you would live your last days by now.</p>
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		<title>By: BS</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532391</link>
		<dc:creator>BS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What rubbish they will never sentance him to 90 years. I also find it hard to believe that he would be PreVail&#039;s only source/cammer and is responsible for 200 XviD releases. 

Take the DoD case for example when the Australian Co-leader was sentanced to 51 months in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What rubbish they will never sentance him to 90 years. I also find it hard to believe that he would be PreVail&#8217;s only source/cammer and is responsible for 200 XviD releases. </p>
<p>Take the DoD case for example when the Australian Co-leader was sentanced to 51 months in America.</p>
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		<title>By: Xandriany</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532389</link>
		<dc:creator>Xandriany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just wondering if the police payed the mpaa for the movies they downloaded or just stole them considering its not one law for the few none for the police &quot;identifying the cinema, was found in some of the CAM and TS releases from the group ‘PreVail‘.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wondering if the police payed the mpaa for the movies they downloaded or just stole them considering its not one law for the few none for the police &#8220;identifying the cinema, was found in some of the CAM and TS releases from the group ‘PreVail‘.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532388</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if all the charges sticks, he would&#039;ve been better off killing the officers trying to arrest him, destroying all the copying equipment, then turning himself in for murder. lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if all the charges sticks, he would&#8217;ve been better off killing the officers trying to arrest him, destroying all the copying equipment, then turning himself in for murder. lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532381</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit. The australian police actually caught someone doing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit. The australian police actually caught someone doing something?</p>
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		<title>By: NubCakes</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532379</link>
		<dc:creator>NubCakes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Interestingly enough, two of the movie titles listed in the press-release have never been released by PreVail. “He’s Just Not That Into You” and “Marley and Me” were indeed released as a Cam version, but not by PreVail.&quot;

Yes, but that probably means PreVail was beaten to it by another group.

&quot;...It also comments how Scene ‘Top Sites’ sell their releases to ‘criminal groups’ who then mass produce DVDs for sale. Apart from scene groups often being very anti-sale...&quot;

The fact that scene groups are anti-commercial usage mean precisely nothing as that are not associated with top-sites directly.  Traders (or couriers) are the ones that take releases from release site dumps to topsites and some topsites most certainly do have &quot;pay to leech&quot; accounts - which some trackers amongst others use.

&quot;With $60,500 AUS ($39,000US or €31,000) and 5 years imprisonment per offense, that can yield a maximum sentence of over a million Aussie dollars and 90 years in prison. In fact, he’s looking at a potential punishment greater than most murderers.&quot;

That&#039;s true, however I seriously doubt that any judge would sentence using that maximum penalty for each offence - that would be ridiculous.  He&#039;s probably going to face some years in jail though and hefty fines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Interestingly enough, two of the movie titles listed in the press-release have never been released by PreVail. “He’s Just Not That Into You” and “Marley and Me” were indeed released as a Cam version, but not by PreVail.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but that probably means PreVail was beaten to it by another group.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;It also comments how Scene ‘Top Sites’ sell their releases to ‘criminal groups’ who then mass produce DVDs for sale. Apart from scene groups often being very anti-sale&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The fact that scene groups are anti-commercial usage mean precisely nothing as that are not associated with top-sites directly.  Traders (or couriers) are the ones that take releases from release site dumps to topsites and some topsites most certainly do have &#8220;pay to leech&#8221; accounts &#8211; which some trackers amongst others use.</p>
<p>&#8220;With $60,500 AUS ($39,000US or €31,000) and 5 years imprisonment per offense, that can yield a maximum sentence of over a million Aussie dollars and 90 years in prison. In fact, he’s looking at a potential punishment greater than most murderers.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s true, however I seriously doubt that any judge would sentence using that maximum penalty for each offence &#8211; that would be ridiculous.  He&#8217;s probably going to face some years in jail though and hefty fines.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532346</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so if he didnt get caught in the act, do they record your number plate, personal information about people who go to the theatre and spy on everyone ? would be interesting to know why they turned up at his house, did they check who has internet conections afterwards and likely suspects ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so if he didnt get caught in the act, do they record your number plate, personal information about people who go to the theatre and spy on everyone ? would be interesting to know why they turned up at his house, did they check who has internet conections afterwards and likely suspects ?</p>
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		<title>By: 7SeVeN7</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532333</link>
		<dc:creator>7SeVeN7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looked over the cams for marley and me
 no PreVail release
 the ORC cam has theater seat in the lower right hand corner so wasnt done at any drive-in
 LTT cam release is the only other cam i can find........hhhhhhmmmmmmm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looked over the cams for marley and me<br />
 no PreVail release<br />
 the ORC cam has theater seat in the lower right hand corner so wasnt done at any drive-in<br />
 LTT cam release is the only other cam i can find&#8230;&#8230;..hhhhhhmmmmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: yawho</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532332</link>
		<dc:creator>yawho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think they should build a cage around the planet, jail everyone whos involved in sharring copyright content</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think they should build a cage around the planet, jail everyone whos involved in sharring copyright content</p>
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		<title>By: Pharaoh</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532323</link>
		<dc:creator>Pharaoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that 90 years/million dollars figure is likely the maximum sentence. I do have to wonder what makes this guy so different from the one who cammed The Simpsons Movie in 07 and got off with only a $1000 fine though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that 90 years/million dollars figure is likely the maximum sentence. I do have to wonder what makes this guy so different from the one who cammed The Simpsons Movie in 07 and got off with only a $1000 fine though.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>90 years in jail for camming a movie thats bulls*ht. Valter you are absolutely right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>90 years in jail for camming a movie thats bulls*ht. Valter you are absolutely right.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>valter - they ARE already trying to kill the resale market, with some success. No matter that the ability to resell a good is a basic consumer right.

More and more games have to be &#039;activated&#039; online, re-activated whenever hardware changes, and you only get so many activations. Run out, and you can only get another *if* the company is still going, *if* they still support the game and *if* you can send them proof of purchase. The latter may well be a problem for any secondary customer.

(Oh and realistically a game might be resold twice at most, your infinite reselling chain is unrealistic.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>valter &#8211; they ARE already trying to kill the resale market, with some success. No matter that the ability to resell a good is a basic consumer right.</p>
<p>More and more games have to be &#8216;activated&#8217; online, re-activated whenever hardware changes, and you only get so many activations. Run out, and you can only get another *if* the company is still going, *if* they still support the game and *if* you can send them proof of purchase. The latter may well be a problem for any secondary customer.</p>
<p>(Oh and realistically a game might be resold twice at most, your infinite reselling chain is unrealistic.)</p>
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		<title>By: valter</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532258</link>
		<dc:creator>valter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a bit off topic, but what is happening with pc software is a purchase is made, game played, then sold on ebay for two thirds of the price, next seller sells it again for two thirds and so on. A large number of users get to play the game and the company only gets one sale. And it&#039;s absolutely legal. How long before they are trying to ban resale on the grounds they are losing business?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a bit off topic, but what is happening with pc software is a purchase is made, game played, then sold on ebay for two thirds of the price, next seller sells it again for two thirds and so on. A large number of users get to play the game and the company only gets one sale. And it&#8217;s absolutely legal. How long before they are trying to ban resale on the grounds they are losing business?</p>
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		<title>By: arrgh</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532254</link>
		<dc:creator>arrgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s unfortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s unfortunate.</p>
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		<title>By: ForTheHateOfCopyright</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532246</link>
		<dc:creator>ForTheHateOfCopyright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So first the MPAA try to say sharing is stealing, then they say piracy is worse than MURDER! What is the net coming to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So first the MPAA try to say sharing is stealing, then they say piracy is worse than MURDER! What is the net coming to?</p>
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		<title>By: woot</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532236</link>
		<dc:creator>woot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and just like the pathetic and pointless war on drugs.. the government will have a very hard time locking down the internet.. if not completely futile.

You always talk as if a policed internet is an inevitable future.. and although I can see the government attempting to lock it down.. I do NOT however see this as a unstoppable force.

One thing you need to remember, is that the internet would still be completely porn if it wasn&#039;t for pirates.

The very reason why the internet is so great is because of pirates and copying. Our dream has always been to have free information readily available at any time.. complete communication of data in real time.. no lines drawn.

When you start drawing lines.. you start separating everyone yet again. The internet knows no boundaries, ethical or racial differences. It is a free world, and me and countless others will fight to keep it free. No one will gain control, no one will monopolize it, no one will enforce there pointless rules.

It will remain neutral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and just like the pathetic and pointless war on drugs.. the government will have a very hard time locking down the internet.. if not completely futile.</p>
<p>You always talk as if a policed internet is an inevitable future.. and although I can see the government attempting to lock it down.. I do NOT however see this as a unstoppable force.</p>
<p>One thing you need to remember, is that the internet would still be completely porn if it wasn&#8217;t for pirates.</p>
<p>The very reason why the internet is so great is because of pirates and copying. Our dream has always been to have free information readily available at any time.. complete communication of data in real time.. no lines drawn.</p>
<p>When you start drawing lines.. you start separating everyone yet again. The internet knows no boundaries, ethical or racial differences. It is a free world, and me and countless others will fight to keep it free. No one will gain control, no one will monopolize it, no one will enforce there pointless rules.</p>
<p>It will remain neutral.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532226</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We can also agree that anything digitized, anything at all, is inherently intellectual property.&quot;
No, we do not agree on that. Copyright is not inherent, but rather government-imposed, and it is not property either. It is a government-imposed monopoly.

Pirates are not imposing the internet police state. The industry is, and the industry must be fought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We can also agree that anything digitized, anything at all, is inherently intellectual property.&#8221;<br />
No, we do not agree on that. Copyright is not inherent, but rather government-imposed, and it is not property either. It is a government-imposed monopoly.</p>
<p>Pirates are not imposing the internet police state. The industry is, and the industry must be fought.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasoned Mind</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532222</link>
		<dc:creator>Reasoned Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Police state&quot;.
Roze is finally smelling the coffee.
We can all agree that the digital realm is literally transformative and will continue to be the central realm of creation and the medium of choice for the transport of data for the foreseeable future.

Someday, digital will be like the covered wagon, but for now, it&#039;s the point.

We can also agree that anything digitized, anything at all, is inherently intellectual property. It can be open source, creative commons or locked up with DRM but in every case, it was created somehow by some entity and by it&#039;s nature, it is IP. But just because it is in tangible does not make it &quot;imaginary&quot; property. It will belong and have value to SOMEone.

Pirates are determined to create the equation..... Digital=Free and/or Freely distributed.

So the issue appears to be that either there is to be no security for data or databanks, no monetary value for anything digital and consequently, no ability for government to use the network and no financial incentive for industry to ever digitize anything, or, government and industry has no alternative but to take on the challenge of control and security to preserve the digital realm as valuable to business and government, at the cost of our privacy and freedom online. 

This is the choice that pirates appear to wish to require. And I doubt very much if government is simply going to roll over and hand this remarkable domain over to anarchy. In the longer run, this goes very badly for pirates and indeed, anything illegal online, and an internet police state is likely the government response. Sound government always responds this way to anarchy, and the losses of privacy will historically be viewed as the fault of the piracy itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Police state&#8221;.<br />
Roze is finally smelling the coffee.<br />
We can all agree that the digital realm is literally transformative and will continue to be the central realm of creation and the medium of choice for the transport of data for the foreseeable future.</p>
<p>Someday, digital will be like the covered wagon, but for now, it&#8217;s the point.</p>
<p>We can also agree that anything digitized, anything at all, is inherently intellectual property. It can be open source, creative commons or locked up with DRM but in every case, it was created somehow by some entity and by it&#8217;s nature, it is IP. But just because it is in tangible does not make it &#8220;imaginary&#8221; property. It will belong and have value to SOMEone.</p>
<p>Pirates are determined to create the equation&#8230;.. Digital=Free and/or Freely distributed.</p>
<p>So the issue appears to be that either there is to be no security for data or databanks, no monetary value for anything digital and consequently, no ability for government to use the network and no financial incentive for industry to ever digitize anything, or, government and industry has no alternative but to take on the challenge of control and security to preserve the digital realm as valuable to business and government, at the cost of our privacy and freedom online. </p>
<p>This is the choice that pirates appear to wish to require. And I doubt very much if government is simply going to roll over and hand this remarkable domain over to anarchy. In the longer run, this goes very badly for pirates and indeed, anything illegal online, and an internet police state is likely the government response. Sound government always responds this way to anarchy, and the losses of privacy will historically be viewed as the fault of the piracy itself.</p>
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		<title>By: malignant</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532221</link>
		<dc:creator>malignant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what this article forgets to mention is:

a) person 3 cars over to the right was raping children

b) someone was doing lines off the dashboard 3 cars to the left.

c) someone robbed the concession stand at gunpoint.

d) cheap hoes making their rounds

...and the CAM guy is looking at decades of imprisonment and massive fines? glad I live in a half sane country.

CRIKEY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what this article forgets to mention is:</p>
<p>a) person 3 cars over to the right was raping children</p>
<p>b) someone was doing lines off the dashboard 3 cars to the left.</p>
<p>c) someone robbed the concession stand at gunpoint.</p>
<p>d) cheap hoes making their rounds</p>
<p>&#8230;and the CAM guy is looking at decades of imprisonment and massive fines? glad I live in a half sane country.</p>
<p>CRIKEY!</p>
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		<title>By: woot</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532219</link>
		<dc:creator>woot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*adds 1 more reason to pirate..*

598583272 + 1

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*adds 1 more reason to pirate..*</p>
<p>598583272 + 1</p>
<p>:)</p>
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		<title>By: SableSlayer</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532210</link>
		<dc:creator>SableSlayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fucking stupid to imprison a person for such acts. Copyrights are ruining peoples lives. It needs to changed! and quickly!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fucking stupid to imprison a person for such acts. Copyrights are ruining peoples lives. It needs to changed! and quickly!</p>
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		<title>By: magicanimal</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532209</link>
		<dc:creator>magicanimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to play devil&#039;s advocate for a moment-- what IS in it for these scene cammers? 

I have a hard time believing that someone would go to all the trouble and expense of tinting vehicle windows, purchasing tickets, acquiring &quot;spy&quot; video equipment of decent quality, and investing the time necessary to capture/rip/convert/upload these cams for nothing but the right to say &quot;FIRST!&quot;

What gives?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to play devil&#8217;s advocate for a moment&#8211; what IS in it for these scene cammers? </p>
<p>I have a hard time believing that someone would go to all the trouble and expense of tinting vehicle windows, purchasing tickets, acquiring &#8220;spy&#8221; video equipment of decent quality, and investing the time necessary to capture/rip/convert/upload these cams for nothing but the right to say &#8220;FIRST!&#8221;</p>
<p>What gives?</p>
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		<title>By: Mindless</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532208</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#8 DVDscr are mint . Noob . Most TS are great these days . Nothing like the old maven TS&#039;s but not horrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#8 DVDscr are mint . Noob . Most TS are great these days . Nothing like the old maven TS&#8217;s but not horrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Sweden</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532195</link>
		<dc:creator>Sweden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@5
Just to point out, the three private trackers I use max my 100 Mbit/s connection. Most of the time I get about 6 MB/s, about the same as I got when downloading W7 beta from MS. Never had any more than 6 MB/s.

Choose your trackers more wisely next time, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5<br />
Just to point out, the three private trackers I use max my 100 Mbit/s connection. Most of the time I get about 6 MB/s, about the same as I got when downloading W7 beta from MS. Never had any more than 6 MB/s.</p>
<p>Choose your trackers more wisely next time, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: nullstring</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532194</link>
		<dc:creator>nullstring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ts, telesync, cams, dvdscr should be avoided.. they pose a greater risk for the &quot;ripper&quot; and the quality is so low...
I shouldn&#039;t be talking for anyone, but I&#039;m just really into bluray rips. would rather wait 6 months for a release than watch it with low res and in stereo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ts, telesync, cams, dvdscr should be avoided.. they pose a greater risk for the &#8220;ripper&#8221; and the quality is so low&#8230;<br />
I shouldn&#8217;t be talking for anyone, but I&#8217;m just really into bluray rips. would rather wait 6 months for a release than watch it with low res and in stereo</p>
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		<title>By: ghettowboy</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532191</link>
		<dc:creator>ghettowboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who really cares... Obviously their information is flawed as usual.. maybe they did catch someone.. but, to assume that person is linked to any specific group without proof is ridiculous and show how much knowledge they have about what they are against... which is nothing!.. lmao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who really cares&#8230; Obviously their information is flawed as usual.. maybe they did catch someone.. but, to assume that person is linked to any specific group without proof is ridiculous and show how much knowledge they have about what they are against&#8230; which is nothing!.. lmao</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532166</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG, i don&#039;t download that because of the bad quality, it&#039;s just futile to arrest them and put a bigger sentence than a raper who kill child life! Its not sound right to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, i don&#8217;t download that because of the bad quality, it&#8217;s just futile to arrest them and put a bigger sentence than a raper who kill child life! Its not sound right to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532165</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If people want movies available the day they are released in theatres, then provide it.  Set up a tracker with high speed servers do downloads are quick.  Have a search engine front end to capture eyeballs and there is your revenue.  

Some people will still go to the theatre and drive-in for the experience of going.  

Some people will still buy the DVD.  

Some people will download and watch on their home theater system.

Why not profit from all instead of trying to control it all for fear of losing some $$.  If a site like IMDB offered downloads as well as DVD sales and had all movies ever made, as well as guaranteed high speed seeds for filesharing, and even direct downloads (some people will pay for that) I can&#039;t see how that would not be a great revenue generator. 

I suppose they are afraid they won&#039;t make as much as they are now, but I bet they are wrong.  Why would you want to be part of a private movie tracker which may or may not be seeding the movie you want and put up with speeds of 1 to 5 kBps when you could belong to one that offers 500 kBps or even 1 MBps?

The site that can attract the most users will be able to generate the most $$

Some people want it digital and they want it now.  Provide it and profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people want movies available the day they are released in theatres, then provide it.  Set up a tracker with high speed servers do downloads are quick.  Have a search engine front end to capture eyeballs and there is your revenue.  </p>
<p>Some people will still go to the theatre and drive-in for the experience of going.  </p>
<p>Some people will still buy the DVD.  </p>
<p>Some people will download and watch on their home theater system.</p>
<p>Why not profit from all instead of trying to control it all for fear of losing some $$.  If a site like IMDB offered downloads as well as DVD sales and had all movies ever made, as well as guaranteed high speed seeds for filesharing, and even direct downloads (some people will pay for that) I can&#8217;t see how that would not be a great revenue generator. </p>
<p>I suppose they are afraid they won&#8217;t make as much as they are now, but I bet they are wrong.  Why would you want to be part of a private movie tracker which may or may not be seeding the movie you want and put up with speeds of 1 to 5 kBps when you could belong to one that offers 500 kBps or even 1 MBps?</p>
<p>The site that can attract the most users will be able to generate the most $$</p>
<p>Some people want it digital and they want it now.  Provide it and profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532158</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;possessing a device with intent to make an infringing copy&quot;

how are they gonna prove that? 

dickheaded lobbyist make me wanna paint the walls with brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;possessing a device with intent to make an infringing copy&#8221;</p>
<p>how are they gonna prove that? </p>
<p>dickheaded lobbyist make me wanna paint the walls with brains.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532157</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t know why people bother with cams</description>
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		<title>By: www.10ch.org</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532144</link>
		<dc:creator>www.10ch.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sense a trend, that, if not reversed, will result in a 1984-like police state, all due to copyright.</description>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/drive-in-scene-cammer-arrested-090217/#comment-532143</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>VCRs and DVDs didn&#039;t kill the movie industry, it expanded it.  Find a way to profit from what people want, rather than punish them.</description>
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