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Dropbox Bans BitTorrent Startup Boxopus Over Piracy Concerns

Dropbox has banned the new BitTorrent startup Boxopus from accessing its API. The company fears that BitTorrent’s piracy stigma may rub off on the successful cloud storage service. The Boxopus team is disappointed by this anti-innovation move. Thousands of dollars in developments costs have gone down the drain for what they believe is an irrational fear imposed by a growing copyright lobby.

boxopusOn Saturday we covered Boxopus, a new startup that allows people to download torrents directly to their dropbox folders.

The news was quickly picked up by many other technology sites and as a result the service’s member count surged to more than 50,000. Boxopus didn’t go unnoticed by the people at Dropbox either.

However, where most reviews heralded the usefulness of the service, Dropbox sees it as a threat.

Although Boxopus is a neutral technology, BitTorrent’s piracy stigma is something Dropbox wants to stay far away from. Apparently, the company believes that a ‘perceived’ link to piracy is enough to ban Boxopus from accessing its API.

A few hours ago the Boxopus team received the following email from one of Dropbox’s engineers (emphasis added):

“It’s come to our attention that latest Boxopus features could be perceived as encouraging users to violate copyright using Dropbox.”

“Violating copyright is against our terms of service, so we are terminating your app’s API access. Once your access is revoked, any API calls your app makes will fail.”

Shortly after this email the API access was pulled, effectively killing the Boxopus service.

To the developers the news came as a shock. Not only was Boxopus adhering to all DMCA requirements, Dropbox also explicitly approved an alpha version of Boxopus weeks earlier.

At the time no alarm bells went off, so the developers continued investing in the product.

“Once the alpha version was approved we were pretty sure that Dropbox was okay with it, so we put our efforts into optimizing the service. It took us 3 months to finish the product with a team of 5 people, which was a $30,000 USD investment,” Boxopus founder Alex tells TorrentFreak.

But now, just a few days after the service had its breakthrough online, the service is dead. Aside from the massive financial loss, the Boxopus team is also disappointed by the way innovation has been stifled by Dropbox due to a perceived threat that may not even be justified.

“This behavior makes it hard to believe that developers are treated fairly and innovation is welcomed at Dropbox. It seems like legit and pre-approved applications may be blocked simply by someone’s will although they act within the scope of company’s terms and international laws,” Alex says.

The Boxopus developers are not blind to the fact that people use BitTorrent to share copyrighted files, but that was in no way what their service was designed for.

“Many people see BitTorrent as a synonym of piracy, however, a lot of interesting legal stuff can be found in BitTorrent networks and this is what Boxopus is made for.”

Nevertheless, Dropbox has made up its mind and a BitTorrent download service is not allowed. To save what’s left the Boxopus team is now negotiating with other cloud storage services to continue their business with a more tolerant partner.

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  • ROMaster2

    Let’s be honest here, it’s not much of a surprise for them to make this move. No matter how disappointing it is, it was expected.

    Is a shame though…

    • Anyone

      it’s time that the MAFIAA bullies die

      • Hellscreamgold

         Why?  Remember, cause and effect.  People pirate stuff, RIAA/MPAA gets created.  Boxopus lets torrent sites who specialize in pirated content directly link to their service, Dropbox (smartly) drops Boxopus from using the API.

        Boxopus were the stupid ones here.

        • Anyone

          the MAFIAA stifles all progress, just because it COULD be used to infringe their silly copyrights

          that’s why they have to die

        • Hogspace

          Absolutely right, who would have risked their $30k on this?

          They need to launch their own Dropbox equivalent/replacement. Ideally in a “rogue state”.

        • The_seventh_guest

          RIAA / MPAA were never created as an atipiracy agency, they assumed that role and now they are exalting piracy as a way of telling the goverment why their business share is shrinking, however not only is the movie and music industry affected by this centrally planned economy that does nothing good to capitalism, but just about everything else. Thats why theres unemployment everywhere, thank to stupid politicos that think they can solve worlds problems with their idiotic decisions and laws
          This whole piracy issue is directoy related to unemployment, due to the fact that in bad economic years, entertainment get to be consumed a lot more, however since prices are through the roof thanks to all the inflation has been

        • Guest33

          You are clearly confused. The law does not ban bittorrent technology or services allowing file sharing. Your mere argument against the service seems to be that it’s illegal to offer a neutral file sharing service, but that’s not the law. You are therefore cleary ignorant about bittorrent technology being illegal. Dropbox had no legal duty to pull the plug, but choosed to go beyond what the law requires. This is killing innovsation.

        • FrostyC

          It was a great way to download torrents anonymously. That’s why the MPAA & RIAA would have come down hard on them. Now Boxopus needs to either rewrite around the API or share their code so we can all do it separately. THEY CAN’T BAN US ALL!

        • Joker

           Yep, Alex at Boxoplus wasn’t being a smart businessman here. Investing $30k in a venture that depends entirely on provision of service from one single supplier (Dropbox) was pretty dumb. As mentioned elsewhere, they should start up their own Dropbox equivalent, or do deals with multiple Dropbox equivalents.

        • Guest

          Nobody care about your fake for hire corporate opinion troll!

        • GardnerJoel

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        • anon

           RIAA and MPAA weren’t created because of piracy. They were created so that the distributors could control the underlying artists (who create the content) and could control the distribution of that content to the public so they can charge monopoly prices. 

          However you are right in that Boxopus should have anticipated that this was likely to happen.

        • Sick

          @aad78d6abaf10c998bcc0e4ea38a8c01:disqus RIAA existed before “people pirated stuff”, it’s not “cause-effect”, jackass.

        • http://lnk.co/I1G74 Michelle M. Stgeorge

           the plug, but choosed to go beyond what the law requires. This is killing innovsation. http://DemoforFrank.blogspot.com

        • http://profiles.google.com/scootah Sean .

           Obvious answer for Boxopus is to shift it to Google Drive. Dropbox would never see a benefit to fighting to keep this kind of thing online. Google on the otherhand…

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        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

           I’m cool with that. These actions will lead to further innovation and Dropbox will be left out in the cold when people progressively move further and further away from doing business with them.

          The internet is not a place to have draconian policies, regardless of how secure you feel you are in your niche. Public opinion matters more than policy.

        • kaka

           @ Sick… Guess you never heard of “The Printing Press”…. The first form of piracy…. Piracy came first ;)

          Suggest all you “Copyright” supports do a bit of reading into the history… Copyright is good… It’s current incarnation is NOT and is just another example of idiots with no foresight!

      • PelouzeTF

         Dropbox made the decision, no logic in blaming anyone else.

        • http://www.facebook.com/egnyquist Erik G. Nyquist

          They probably got a phone call or a letter from some law firm in working for a client in California. 

        • Diosj

          They should sue dropbox. This is like a store that agrees to buy from you, makes you set up a local distribution center, and then cancels the contract because of pressure from the local mobsters.

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    • Latecia

       fuck dropbox, use megacloud . c o m instead

    • Guest

      perceived? ,…..honestly im all for pirating
      but torrents are 99 percent bootleg
      sorry
      they should have started there own host or w.e 

      • Anyone

        prove your numbers

        independent research has shown that about 85% of torrent traffic is non-infringing

      • Eraser

        So pay troll did you wrote this to be sited later during the next RIAA/MPAA lawsuit?

        You are despicable. No wonder everyone want to see you dead, dude!

      • Spunky Monk

        @ac772b48d6728242138b1df18c9716e5:disqus 
        Torrents are 99% bootleg? Aaah, I see what you did there. You didn’t claim that 99% of torrents are bootleg, just that 99% of the total data in each individual file is, which means that if you only download 1% of a copyright infringing file you can claim that it was the 1% that isn’t bootleg and there’s nothing the MAFIAA can do to touch you. Clever…

        • Vitriol

           What the fuck is wrong with you?

        • Guest

          He is on drugs.

        • StupidPeopleShouldntBreed

          puff puff pass man, stop bogartin the good chit!

    • Eraser

      No. This is wrong.  Dropbox should know better. Never either cave to the bullies otherwise they will come back over and over again to bit the crap out of you.

      You don’t cave to the bullies you kill them instead. When you see them coming  you load your guns. You don’t prepare to surrender! 

      HELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

      Ha! These idiots never learn!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676827475 Luke Solis

        Dropbox knows better, but they also watched megaupload’s empire fall. so DB is scared shitless for a little while.

      • Asdf

         load your e-guns buddy, gonna need a lot of e-bullets

      • EricPost

        Sorry you have a responsibility to your investors first. Dropbox did the right thing. You’d all be screaming bloody murder if you invested in Dropbox and they went under because of this. It’s not always best to be be right, sometimes it’s enough just to know that your right

    • Mat_t

      dropbox is about as much with the times as Microsoft. I thought people knew this by now? They’re horrible with security – at the point of the breaches the trust should be gone.

      Stick with something like Spideroak and at least you’re in better shape.

    • Guest

      Seeing as how Dropbox pre-approved Boxopus, it actually is kind of surprising. 

      Why the fuck didn’t they just reject Boxopus from the start? That would have saved some people a lot of time, effort, and $30,000. Dropbox pulled a dick-move by saying “Yeah we’ll accept your service!” and then “LOL NOPE.”

      Although if Boxopus can successfully partner with another, less dickish cloud storage provider then developing it will have been ultimately worth it.

      • Guest

        the reason they “pre=approved it” is because dropbox will give out an API key for pretty much any reason at all. its like a robotic arm is approving the forms. not a lot of QA.  so this got some press and they woke up and banned it

        • Violated0

          Well maybe Boxopus can set themselves up a little front application for more legitimate sounding use and then forward Boxopus data secretly through it.

          It would not be so easy for DropBox to fail to notice vast data passing through this one application though nor Boxopus still claining DropBox use. Secret fronts are better used for less minor use that goes undetected.

    • warcaster

      The point is that it SHOULD be a surprise. If everyone automatically relates torrents to piracy, then what else can you expect from the tech illiterate politicians?

    • djnforce9

       Exactly my thoughts. Considering what happened to Megaupload, Dropbox is start to play it safe and considering how I use them quite extensively, I do not want them shut down. The copyright vultures need to die first. Then innovation can take its place.

    • Latecia

       dropbox sucks use mega c l o u d . c o m instead

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  • Mitch

    I’ve never used Dropbox, definitely won’t now.

    • BoxDrop

      @46040c38d1cbe8ffcd3df6c8ba787951:disqus I will use them and use up their bandwidth. Anything I post will be encrypted and shared to everyone.

      Next they’ll be blocking all encrypted files.

  • anon

    well.. that didn’t take long.
    this “service” will not be missed though.

  • Ipodrx

    That was quick.

    • fuel for the ……

      torrentfreak effect !

  • milrtime83

     Their reason is pretty flimsy. They just go with the assumption that bittorrent equals piracy. I wonder if their real reasoning has something to do with all the extra bandwidth this would use.

    • d00d3r

      That’s what I was thinking too. Dropbox is pretty inexpensive, probably because most peoples’ data is pretty static. If they became a seedbox service, their costs would rise sharply. My guess is this was less about piracy and more about cost, and piracy is an easy scapegoat that allowed them to save face. I’m OK with that. As an aside, Dropbox isn’t a great choice for torrent storage anyway.

    • The Real Fake Jack Sparrow

      They wouldn’t use much more bandwidth. They’re a file-sharing site already, allowing people to share projects with each other instantly – every time you upload your files to dropbox it pushes them to all synched devices, which already uses a fair amount of bandwidth. I use it through work to collaborate with clients and regularly dump 1Gb+ files up there for approval

  • Underdog

    No – it did´t take long. Great work, torrentfreak…

  • giowck

    just use another cloud service provider

  • RaVeN

    Lol so saw this coming, which is why I didn’t bother with Boxopus.

  • Guest

    I’m not surprised this happened. After seeing the first article, I knew it was only a matter of time.

  • Abunchofgibberish

    Smells like a lawsuit, but I can’t really blame Dropbox for doing what they did. They have a legitimate service that has managed to evade the whole “piracy” stigma for a long time; they would be fools to jeopardize their reputation.

    • Andrew me

       So you think they are safe from being closed down by the gov at a simple request from the copyright czars…LOL  all it takes is for them to make an accusation and dropbox is finished, does nobody read the news, this is what happened to megaupload, destroyed  with absolutely no evidence a crime was committed.

      • Anon1

        Exactly, it won’t be long until Dropbox is branded as a “rogue” website that permits illegal file sharing.

  • Hellscreamgold

    “TorrentReactor, Fulldls.com,
    Vertor.com and Torrentzap.com have already added support, and the
    Boxopus team hopes that more torrent sites will add a one-click download
    button to their sites in the near future.”

    When pirate software/media sites add the ability to use the service directly, it’s easy to see why Dropbox cut them off.

    Boxopus was stupid for “partnering” or allowing such sites to “integrate” in that way, and that is what likely got it killed.

    • Guest33

      So you are saying that it’s the only legitimate objection to the service. If they had just  kept their mouth shut and offered a file locker service like Rapidshare with and bittorrent support in compliance with DMCA, you would not claim it’s a piracy service. Piracy is not offering a service being capable of unlawful file sharing. If that were so, there could be no Rapidshare, but Rapidshare has won every single court case brought against it.

      You are either ignorant or purposefully attempting to rewrite the law to stigmatize all file sharing services as unlawful, but the DMCA and The COpyright Act spells out the obligation of service providers and the circumstances under which the provider may be liable. your service is not illegal, just because it happened to be used mostly by copyright infringers. And the provider is immune from liability if he complies with the four corners of the DMCA. Since the service had not operate for a long time, you can’t know whether it did all the law required.

    • Guest

      Nobody care about your fake for hire corporate opinion troll.

      You don’t make any sense.

      • Guest

        Nobody care about your fake for hire corporate opinion troll!

        And stop repeating the same crap you lazy butt!

  • DaftMink

    The reason is Dropbox didn’t want to get labeled as a rouge filelocker by the MPAA/RIAA and have to force it’s users to jump through hoops like other filelockers by adding download upload limits, speed restrictions, captcha’s and stuff.

    And yes Torrent’s aren’t just for copyrighted material, BUT alot of the stuff downloaded through it is.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Actually, no, it isn’t. New studies done overseas have said that a good 85% of torrent traffic is legal stuff once you take into account that people are downloading things that they have already paid for via a cable TV/satellite TV subscription.

      • Ophelia Millais

        {{citation needed}}

      • Guest

         As asked for many times before… Link please.

  • Anon

    This whole idea is stupid, this situation will get as worst as megaupload is atm. DropBox’s servers are not offshore and these run legally. VPN are cheap ppl

  • ScrewEwe2

    Damn, I saw that coming from a mile away. Boxopus was braindead for thinking Dropbox was going to let let them drop torrents into peoples boxes. They should have asked Dropbox first before they blew thousands of dollars getting Boxopus up and running. Yes, there are legal distros being delivered via BitTorrent, but most of us use BitTorrent to get the so called “illegal” content. Metallica isn’t using BitTorrent to distribute their music, even though they should throw out a few “legal” freebie tunes via BitTorrent now and then to show their appreciation for their loyal fans.

    I saw Megadeth in Vegas in 2000 and before the encore I yelled “Metallica Sucks, Metallica Sucks” and before you knew it, everyone in the croud was chanting “Metallica Sucks” until Mustaine came out for the encore. This was after Lars decided to go after Napster. Mustaine came out with a huge smile on his face as the crowd kept yelling “Metallica Sucks”. My only regret is that I actually paid for 90% of my Metallica CD’s. At least I didn’t waste any money on St. Anger. Dave Mustaine is good people. Lars is a money hungry asswipe. 

    • http://twitter.com/JohnyDaison Johny Daison

       Yes, you saw that from a mile away, yet you weren’t even able to read the WHOLE article. Dropbox APPROVED Boxopus while it was still in alpha. I hate people who call others stupid when they themselves can’t even read and speak English properly.

      • ScrewEwe2

        Well Johny Boy, In the future I’ll make sure to defer to you from now on in regards to my reading and use of English. Until then, piss up a fuckin’ rope.

        • A Gent Smith

          Wow – what a refreshing surprise to find such eloquence on an internet forum!

          Normally I’d expect to see a response more akin to “Yeah? Yeah? Well… You’re like Hitler!” Lulz

          Peace indeed :D

  • Silman13205

    I just went through all the trouble of installing Dropbox on 4 computers, understanding how it works, and even trying to upload a ligitamately LEGAL torrent file through Boxopus yesterday that was slowed because of traffic…Always too good to be true.

  • Anonymous

    This time I completely agree with the “anti-piracy” company here. Dropbox has made a smart move. Megaupload were taken down due to what their members put onto their servers. Torrents are in the firing line, so why would Dropbox want its users to potentially put copyrighted materials onto their servers, and end up destroying a very successful and extremely useful company?

    • Anyone

      so what happens after the MU case falls apart? will you change your position?

    • Andrew me

      You have to understand how funny your comment is. The DOJ does not have to have proof to destroy a cloud business, they can destroy them for no reason other than the fact that someone who has paid them claims they are infringing. Seriously funny comment but don’t worry you are not the only one who believes there files are safe in the cloud.

    • Lubbychubby

      The trouble is, the Dropbox main service is for the transfer/sharing of files synched across multiple devices. Banning an app that plugged into their API to extend the functionality to torrent files won’t change its core function and it is that core function that will lead to them being the target for MAFIAA ‘protection’ rackets, because their users +could+ be using the service to distribute infringing content. It’s no longer about what actually transpires, it’s now about the potential actions of users – a sad day for innovation.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    I should have been expected of course, but this is indeed move against innovation. This yet again shows how idiots miss rightful use of bittorernt

  • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

    Well this sucks but then again if you can’t join them compete against them.I think boxopus can create their own file-locker service and use whatever they created in their own file-locker. As for dropbox “PFFFTTT” what they offer free is a sham. I saw plenty other service far better than dropbox. It’s all about popularity and marketing your services and products. In the long run i see Dropbox dying- off like Microsoft! Boxopus win like Linux!! :)

    • Mwhahaha

      You sound bitter. Think happy thoughts. 

      • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

        i’m never bitter i’m making a suggestion :)

        • Asdf

           microsoft isn’t anywhere near dead, I think you’re delusional

        • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

          hahahaha lmao i doubt that but thanks :)

  • Wef

    Computers can be use to violate copyright too. Let’s ban all computers. No more computers for you FUCKFIAA

    • Mwhahaha

      Human memory also records things without a licence. Let’s ban memory.

      Free pot for everyone it is then!

      • Xnvtqsan

         ”Let’s ban memory!”

        That made me giggle xD

      • Asdf

         oh, just put ball gags on everyone, that way they can’t speak their pirated thoughts to one another. until they earn sign language, that is, then blindfolds!

  • Tom Zarek

    Why would Dropbox put themselves in a position where they could face legal ramifications for something that a partner company did.

    I use Dropbox for hosting my own legal files in “the cloud” and if Dropbox were to have gone ahead with this it would potentially have put my and hundreds of thousands of other people’s LEGAL files at risk.

    Look at the Megaupload situation where it’s highly likely that people will NEVER get back the LEGAL files they hosted there.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      No, it wouldn’t have. The bottom line is that those ‘other people’s files’ will still be at risk because they are charging too much for them and therefore people are going to pirate them.

    • Guest33

      Your stance is hypocritical to say it least. Dropbox allow user to share their files as direct links and Dropbox allows third party services access to its API. So everything which Dropbox claims could be perceived as encouraging piracy is already a integral part of the Dropbox service. Bittorrent does no more encourage piracy than computers. Dropbox is using the copyright lobby’s claim to cover its cowardness. If Dropbox just admitted that they appease the copyright lobby – like the man feeting the lion hoping he will be the last to live   – they would not come of as assholes.

  • lol guy

    lol TF i really think you should stop posting articles about new tech as the moment you post it the service always gets to much attention :s

    • Mwhahaha

      I’m sure dropbox would have noticed the increase in activity themselves. 

    • Sabel44

      ahh! let’s keep technology secret.
      knowledge should be hidden. it affects some people’s profits.

  • reactor903

    not only copyright but server load.. sheesh i kinda expected this and they could have too.

  • Torspo

    I wouldn’t want to sync my downloads to all of my dropbox devices anyway (laptop, desktop, phone). 

  • Mwhahaha

    Utterly predictable and I can’t blame dropbox for not wanting to get involved in it. Let pirates be pirates and stand up for what we want and not get other people into trouble.

    See how easy it is for a cloud storage service to not involve itself in piracy if they really want to?

    MU I’m looking at you…

    • Guest

      Dropbox: Some people use it to host copyright infringing material, complies with DMCA takedowns.

      Megaupload: Some people used it to host copyright infringing material, complied with DMCA takedowns.

      How long before Hollywood has Dropbox taken down as well? Banning Boxopolus isn’t the way for Dropbox to cover its ass. It can still be shut down on a whim. The way for it to cover its ass is to send laywers to court houses and get the status quo changed, so that DMCA-complying service providers can no longer be destroyed without respect for due process(or jurisdiction) just because Hollywood gives the word.

    • Fredrika

      > “Let pirates be pirates and stand up for what we want..”

      You’re not a pirate!?!? You have on several occasions made it clear that you do not care about censorship of fully legal sites, the human right to assumption of innocence, or violations of the human rights protected freedom to seek, receive and impart information. A real pirate would stand up for those things.

      In addition to that you’ve made it clear that you stand behind a copyright monopoly that regulates non-profit use, that control what’s transferred in private communication, another thing that no pirate would ever get behind.

  • Leello

    Of course it was going to be banned. They were stupid to invest 30k into this shit. As others said, saw it coming from a mile away.

  • thedude321

    Hopefully these guys can work their plans with better partners, however, I would have to say that they would face stiff opposition.

    Now, most people are saying that they expected it all, and that is to be expected, because this sort of defeatist attitude is prevalent among most people these days. However, I hope new technologies like Tribler and other future replacements for the current file-sharing infrastructure will be more ‘ass hole’ proof.

    I had this gut feeling just when I was downloading a free indie movie last night using boxopus, that this was just too good to be true…and I guess I was right. But sooner or later, we will have more solid technologies that cannot be taken down on a whim like this was taken down, but that may requite a lot of time and effort. I am mostly waiting to see what change Tribler brings to the scene.

  • Andrew me

    Do people really believe that dropbox is immune from the way the government destroyed Mega…LOL not that is a joke, all it takes is for the copyright czars to claim there customers are infringing and they can be arrested and charged with assisting copyright piracy.They do not even need proof of infringment to close them down.

    This action might stop that from happening for a while or it might bring dropbox to the attention of the czars, only time will tell, and anyone thinking that there files are safe with any cloud service just needs to really understand what happened to Mega…they did abide by the DMCA and took down material that was copyrighted. Even those actions did not prevent the US Government from destroying them, or attempting to.
     Anyone that uses a cloud service to store important files is an idiot if they think it is safe.

    • Tom Zarek

       I am one of the people who uses Dropbox to host MY OWN LEGAL files in the cloud. I also maintain multiple backups. It would be silly to ONLY have them hosted on Dropbox.

      However it would cost me and my business money to change my cloud hosting were Dropbox to be raided and shut down like MU were. Which is why I think this was the right decision on the part of Dropbox.

      I also agree with what @Torspo said, I wouldn’t want EVERYTHING synched everywhere. Adding a couple of Blu-ray rips would fill my phone and I don’t even want to think what it would do to my data allowance to download to my phone.Boxopus might find a more suitable partner elsewhere. Box with their 50gig upload limit and NO phone sync might be a better idea.

      • Insperatus

        “I also agree with what @Torspo said, I wouldn’t want EVERYTHING synched everywhere.”

        Selective sync???  Hellooooo???

  • roadkill

    “Boxopus features could be perceived as encouraging users to violate copyright”. This is outrageous. Banned for doing nothing wrong.

    • Asdf

       welcome to real life

      • Kdjlsk

        @2b03046569e9e5cdae10d79d01c19ecb:disqus  lol, ended up coughing, reading your comment..

  • Guest33

    But Dropbox would not by any stretch be analogous to MU. I wished that
    people would refrain from making stupid comparisons to the MU case which
    was not legally predicated on what people put in their lockers, but the
    alleged knowing conduct by MU itself.

    Dropbox would not be liable for offering a third party bittorrent
    service acces to  its   API, unless it either induced copyright
    infringement, or had specific knowledge of its storage being used to
    commit copyright infringement.  Dropbox is therefore acting cowardly by
    going beyond what the law requires. The same accusation levelled against
    bittorrent can be levelled against any file sharing service. There is
    no technically sound distinction between Dropbox and bittorrent
    regarding its potentiality for being used to infringe copyright. Dropbox
    is not acting consistently but only out of fear of guilt by
    association. If Dropbox can sell out its third party API developers, it
    can also sell out the privacy of its users.

    • Robroy

      >There is no technically sound distinction between Dropbox and bittorrent
      regarding its potentiality for being used to infringe copyright.

      Except there is. The distinction is that Dropbox is a singular company that can be taken to court/fucked with like MU, whereas bittorrent (with a small b) is a protocol that exist across multiple companies/clients that cannot.

      • Guest33

        No, not in this case. It’s true that bittorrent is decentralized, but  as soon as you delegate the downloading to a single service, the company downloading the file over bittorrent is in the same shoes as the filehoster.

  • StupidPeopleShouldntBreed
    • Guest

       ^^^

      did you pay for the license to use their advert?
      i think not!
      oh wait… it wasn’t done as a torrent… so nevermind!

  • http://twitter.com/mluis Miguel Luis

    Why are people mixing concepts like “Transportation” with “Speeding Ticket”?

    • Guest

      Ok, here’s a webcomic idea that I’m just throwing out there.  I’d do it myself, but I can’t draw at all.  Anyone is free to take this idea and have fun with it:

      “If the automobile industry were run by the MPAA”  (or something similar, you’ll see what I’m getting at):

      1 panel, shows someone at a car dealership.  The dealer is talking to a new car buyer and saying something along the lines of “Well, since it’s come to our attention that the innovations such as the internal combustion engine could encourage/enable drivers to break the speed limits, we’ve decided to ban such dangerous rogue technology.”

      The car being shown off in the panel runs on foot power like the Flintstones cars, and is drawn to look as close to a Flintstones car as you can get without getting sued.  

      Feel free to polish up the writing and concept.  This was just sort of a rough draft idea I had.

      • Asdf

         oh man, this would be funny to see and read

  • capitalist

    sounds like a great business decision by a smart company to me.

    • Fredrika

      > “sounds like a great business decision by a smart company to me.”

      Sounds like a great innovative service that was stifled by fear for the uncertainty caused by the harmful copyright monopoly. It has nothing to do with being smart, it has to do with the unfair fact that new small businesses, ideas and innovators can’t even dare to enter the market, because it’s economically impossible for them to stand up against large monopoly holders, who do whatever they can to stop any competition on the market, including tricking governments into unconstitutionally sabotaging fully legal services as MegaUpload and Pirate Bay.

      When new technical innovations and businesses are stopped before they even started, because of the copyright monopoly, then something is clearly wrong with society. No honest capitalist or person who cares about society and the economy would applaud that, only weak failed non-innovative monopoly holders that can’t handle themselves on the free market.

  • Bonyjose

     i knew its gonna happen…really disappointing though…

  • some gy

    saw it on lifehacker today… knew it sounded to good to be true.  my biggest concern would have been their ability to keep the account logs private when the sucker got raided.

  • Guest57

    Did they have interns working on this project?  $30,000 / 5 people / 3 months = $24,000 a year per person working on the project.

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    I wouldn’t be upset about this IF it wasn’t for the fact that DropBox had approved this in the alpha stages, as the article said. Since they did approve this, I think that Boxopus or whoever owns it has a good case for suing DropBox, ToS or no.

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  • GUEST

    BUILD IT FOR SUGARSYNC OR MEGACLOUD(.COM) !!!!!

  • Anonymous

    a) i said they needed to get things up and running damn quick, before it all went tits up

    b) i bet the original approval was intentional, so that there would be financial loss caused to those who were developing the service.

    it dont take big brains to guess who was behind that or the stopping of the service now. anything that remotely threatens their perceived amount of income will be shut.

  • Horzel

    http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent

    Am I not allowed to download this torrent to Dropbox?

    Why?

  • Guest

    I would claim to be psychic if it wasn’t for the other thousand people who predicted the exact same thing to occur.

    We all knew this would happen :)

    I’m not going to complain, Dropbox is a service and it’s just trying to keep a good reputation to provent it being deemed as a ‘rogue’ website.

  • http://Operation-DarkSky.askaboutit.com Needlez™

    I don’t see why they wouldn’t open up they’re own cloud based service, unless they don’t have the cash to start up the service. But it would probably be a great idea, other then that maybe re-write the code so that it works like a plugin for any cloud based program, and sell the plugin to some companies or something like that, to recoupe the loss. 

  • Trainman

    SHOCKER- dropbox dont want to be associated with pirates, especially not to appear to facilitate them.

    The “service”  was dead in the water anyway, who cares?

    And invested $30,000? thats pocket change for a start up, must have been paying the coders minimum wage.

    Good Riddance I say-  MPAA/RIAA should have sponsered it to keep it alive, imagine a nice log of downloads linked to your email addy, no plausible deniablity when they sue your arse..

    tried teh service it sucked, Ill not lose any sleep over it getting taken down

     

    • Guest

      “the coders minimum wage.”, no mean to spoil your bubble but a website like that wouldn’t need a work force of one hundred people. It could be done by a single person within a month, maybe 2 months depending on how much time they have to work on it.

      However, I am interested in how they actually used that $30k as I don’t see how a website which is as simple as that would require so much effort.

      • Trainman

        ” However, I am interested in how they actually used that $30k as I don’t
        see how a website which is as simple as that would require so much
        effort.”

        Backend, servers to host, API licensing fees,frontend design, greasing a few palms to get press coverage, CEO’s wage etc etc…

        If you can code and launch a public facing website that has similair functionality for $30K I have a string of people would like to talk to you.

        Googles front end is simplistic, I am sure they have spent less than 30K on it…..

        In todays economy a write down of 30K for a failed product would not even cause a blip  on a balance sheet

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  • Cujo

     uninstalling dropbox and removing bookmark lol ,, but keeping boxopus ;)

    • Guest

      Keeping boxopus but uninstalling Dropbox… how does that work? Boxopus uploads to Dropbox (which you’ve now removed), so without Dropbox, Boxopus would be useless…? :S
      :S

      • guest

         because fuck you!

      • Cujo

         I got rid of dropbox but intend to keep an eye on boxopus as it sounds very promising. All they need is to hook up with another service similar to dropbox. Say perhaps wuala for example  ;)

        https://www.wuala.com/

    • DoopyDoo

      Big man 

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  • Me

     have more respect for Dropbox, not associating themselves with pirate scum thieves.

    • Sick

      @f620f4647fb816073c9152a284245e64:disqus  You are acting as judge, jury and sound like you wish to be executioner too. Pirate scum thieves? I am sure one could argue the exact same thing about the first man to propose expanding the Internet from exclusive edu/gov use to the general public.

      After all, since it is the technology that enables the ability to exchange data you hate so much, the Internet itself you should loathe… so what exactly are you doing on here again?

      • Asdf

         what a successful troll we have here!

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  • foff

    30K my ass.  Whose ass are they trying to blow smoke up!.  When are most people going to wake up and smell the goddamn roses?  I mean come on, the internet is for sharing information.  It is one big electronic library.  The mafiaa needs to go the fuck away.  Cloud storage can only work in a hands off environment.  Dropbox will dead and gone within a year or less.  

    Here is the problem.  No one can offer cloud storage at free or reasonable price to keep customers.  A 3tb hd costs me about $140 for a cheap seagate drive.  At $10 a month for storage it would take 14 months just to pay for the drive.  Of course they were offering only 30 gigs so that is covered in about 1.5 months.  I have 30tb of hard drives so why would 30 gigs of cloud appeal to me?  It won’t and I wouldn’t have any need for a membership.  You need volume to stay in business and to get that volume you have to offer public links and when you do that you are in bed with piracy.  

    Who the fuck are we kidding 98% of what is one anyones’  hard drives with the exception of a very few is copyrighted material, movies, tv shows, software, books, pictures,  etc.  So if I put even a fraction of what I have in cloud storage it is almost all copyrighted.

    So you cannot offer storage and not expect any copyrighted material on your disks.  you cannot stay in business without lots of customers, you cannot have customers without public links.  I think it is a joke that rabidshit, for example claims to combat piracy yet without it they would die as their servers are still full of illegal content being shared.

    So dropbox you have shit for brains and deserve your fate.

    • Sick

      @ab9f77ce4f17373156ec3b5fa5542a46:disqus I agree with your sentiment, but I wish to remind you that just because something is “copyrighted” does not mean it is illegal. If you rip your own Blu-Rays, for example, this would eat massive HDD or Cloud space and is completely legal.

      It is, however, more difficult to argue that copyrighted material obtained via bit-torrent is legal through fair use, though I believe technically if you own the material you own a license to duplicate it for personal use, so this technically could/should apply to downloading it from another source free of charge.

  • Doug

    The article a few days did not make Boxopus seem content neutral. For example there was a screenshot with a bunch of scene-released pirated tv shows / movies. In any case the service was either doomed (or a MPAA honeypot like Furk.net) from the start, because it was using a .com address. 

    • Fredrika

      > “..(or a MPAA honeypot like Furk.net)..”

      In what way is Furk.net a Mpaa honeypot? Can you back this claim up with any evidence, or even a discussion about circumstances that indicates this being the case?

    • Drogo

       ”The article a few days did not make Boxopus seem content neutral. For
      example there was a screenshot with a bunch of scene-released pirated tv
      shows / movies.”

      No the screenshot shows L5, The Yes Men and free content from The Counting Crows. All perfectly legal and in no way “scene-released pirated tv shows / movies”

      • Doug

        Ok I obviously didn’t look at the screenshot carefully enough.

        Regarding Furk, I don’t have any evidence. 

        • Fredrika

          > “Regarding Furk, I don’t have any evidence. “

          Then what do you base it on? Have you read it in a discussion somewhere? Or is it completely baseless?

    • tremor
      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Funny, I didn’t get anything like that when I just went there.

      • tremor

        It’s an old image, but there are plenty more screencaps, some involving attempted virus attacks. It just speaks volumes about the people running the site. Just cause you didn’t notice anything when you visited the doesn’t mean nothing bad is there.

    • Sick

      I believe that kind of advertising is known as “pulling a Scour”, for those old enough to remember that P2P app. :P

  • Alyssa Blindy

    Pfft. I saw this coming. I knew it would happen. I am not surprised at all.

    Maybe the boxopis team should make their own cloud storage service for this use.

  • jOHN rYDER

    yeah well i get to decide who is living in my back yard, so do they

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      When you enter into a business relationship with someone, there is a little thing called a CONTRACT. Meaning that once you do that, you are no longer just allowed to do anything for any reason.

  • Stinky

     In reply to  “Guest33″Choosed is not a word in the English language.

    • Alsdkfjls

       The “o” after ‘h’ and the “d” at the end are silent.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676827475 Luke Solis

    AH! that didn’t take long. With MPAA and RIAA, this app will die real quick. I feel sorry for the poor saps.

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  • http://www.sk3tchy.com/ Andey

    lol so obvious this was gonna happen

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  • partyQ

    Considering the warped views of the MPAA, they could and probably would have found some way to hold drop box accountable. If I was put in a situation that could possibly jeopardize my buisness, I would do my best to stop it. I think in this situation Drop Box was cowering to the corrupt power of the MPAA and RIAA.

    • gubatron

      yes, I bet dropbox execs said, we don’t need to deal with the MPAA and RIAA bullshit, just cut them off, this is ludacris, plus cutting them off will give us some free publicity.

    • gubatron

      “I think in this situation Drop Box was cowering to the corrupt power of the MPAA and RIAA”

      a corrupt power which according to Kim Dotcom goes to the highest offices of the US.

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  • ACTA_FOOL

    Canadian Copyright Bill C-11 passes House of Commons and Senate

    http://www.barrysookman.com/2012/06/26/copyright-bill-c-11-passes-third-reading-in-house-of-commons/

    “Earlier this evening, June 26, 2012, the Bill was passed by the Senate.
    The Senate went in camera to discuss its report which may include
    observations. Before coming into force, the Bill will go through an order-in-council process.”
     

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  • Andrew Lee

    I can assure you “bit torrent” is not the definition of piracy.FFS the RIAA/MPAA and the rest are making their money from other peoples talent.
    RIAA job description = Take a retarded percent of others money. “Work at home!”

    Well shame on  Dropbox… anywho I gotta run I need to finish downloading this car and print it with my ultra mega futuristic 3d printer.

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  • bantomang

    Wow that makes no sense at all ddue. None.
    Privacy-dot.tk

  • codymws

    I’m not liking the direction Dropbox is heading towards… First they remove Public folders for new users, now this? To Google Drive I go…

  • gubatron

    I don’t understand why create a company like this when all you have to do is set your download folder on your favorite bittorrent client to be a folder on your dropbox…

    At that point, files go to your dropbox via the dropbox client like any other file.

    • Danjimaru

      the idea is: use the cloud to seed…
      If I go on vacation my 100 or so open seed jobs go offline because I turn off all electricity in the house for the time I’m away.

      Boxopus would have allowed for the seed jobs to stay active while my pc is off.

      • gubatron

        oh, that explains everything, but now it seems to me like an even more stupid business idea, one doomed out of existence by copyright trolls in a heartbeat since they’d be seeding lots of illegal content themselves for others, doesn’t matter if the files are stored in drop-box, the ones making them directly available as a proxy would’ve been boxopus.

        Cool for the user, but being a service (not a filesharing tool) super-prone to being an accomplice of copyright infringement every second.

  • Anthony Souls

    When I read that Boxopus was abusing DropBox’s API for anonymous torrent file uploading, I knew that it was doomed from the start. Why would I call it abusing (obviously so)? Boxopus wanted to shift the legal responsibility unto DropBox and reap all of the rewards in the process: DropBox would be blamed/at fault because it’s their API that allows the possible copy-infringement to perpetuate. 

    I would have to state that Boxopus is ignorant/naive for wasting thousands of dollars defying commonsense and logic :) Take care, 

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    hahahahahahaha!!!!!
    I was expecting this!   8D

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  • el bartos

    your use a jackass service of boxopus? jajaja not make laugh i use my own seedbox

    torrent=seeding=keep alive the network :D

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  • Shogunreaper

    Sorry but what kind of idiot would have thought they would allow it in the first place?

    It was a nice idea for sure, but theres just no way it would have lasted.

  • Ofisdjg

    Thanks to whoever mentioned, Waula and SpiderOak.

  • Neo

    “Violating copyright is against our terms of service, so we are terminating your app’s API access. Once your access is revoked, any API calls your app makes will fail.”
    Is that the same as being perceived as encouraging users to violate copyright?
    /lookingglass=”through”>

  • Iphil

    The funny part is that if you look at the drop box blog on their bit about “hack” week.  

    “So what exactly does “hack” mean? The word definitely has a negative connotation of breaking into computer systems or doing other illegal things. But here, “hack” means being clever and creative despite tight constraints.”

    http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=1062 

    But, now they are afraid of negative connotations ? 

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