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Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:39:36 +0000

[...] pues y cada vez son más los que las están viendo y se suben a este carro. El último ejemplo lo encontramos en la televisión pública neerlandesa, NPO, quienes han comenzado a distribuir todos sus contenidos recientes mediante un programa que se [...]

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By: Dutch Public Television Tries BitTorrent Downloads | Systema

Dutch Public Television Tries BitTorrent Downloads | Systema — Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:49:51 +0000

[...] If successful, this trial could be a major breakthrough for BitTorrent-powered streaming as it might convince other parties to try it out and get a taste of the future of web-based video delivery. In the UK the BBC has been eager to adopt BitTorrent as well. They did a trial earlier this year but thus far rights issues have contributed in holding back a roll-out on a wider scale. [...]

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Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:50:56 +0000

By: swift_kick_in_the_ass

swift_kick_in_the_ass — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:42:42 +0000

This is a great initiative, however DRM has to go. I would not seed one bit of DRM infested content. If they want DRM they can pay for the bandwidth.

By: Arie

Arie — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:52:09 +0000

I’m not offering my bandwidth to DRM shit. This is ment for offline use, which I don’t need. There is an Uitzending Gemist APP for the iPhone already. So no benefits for me..

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Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:35:29 +0000

By: FurbleFurble

FurbleFurble — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:30:29 +0000

CLOG-TASTIC !!!

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Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:21:31 +0000

By: MeepMeep

MeepMeep — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:47:39 +0000

The restictions (DRM etc.) are going to kill this idea, dumb NPS people. I pay tax so you can make your programs and this is what we get in return ? Stupid.

By: Peter

Peter — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:53:43 +0000

So, the Dutch have invented a Digital Restrictions Management system that can’t be circumvented by a 14-year old Norwegian kid ??
Sure they have ..
09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c0

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By: TerribleTony

TerribleTony — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:06:41 +0000

Also, swarmplayer is not to be trusted.

By: TerribleTony

TerribleTony — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 07:03:23 +0000

It’s all well and good, but where were these guys when mininova needed them? When we needed them? Hiding in their Rights bunker, that’s where.

This sort of thing frustrates the hell out of me.

By: anonymous

anonymous — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 06:10:58 +0000

only difference here is where the files are coming from. still not as people want. still protected. still cant do as you want with it. have to have particular equipment to get and use the files. good that torrent is used, but thats all. copyright industry wearing a different hat!

By: ANTI MAFIAA

ANTI MAFIAA — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:22:35 +0000

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By: BITTS

BITTS — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 03:16:26 +0000

“CBC.ca has almost all of its stuff via streaming …..almost there….”

HAVE YOU SEEN THE QUALITY OF THAT SHIT? WOW ITS COMPLETE GARBAGE… I CANT EVEN WATCH SOME OF THE SHOWS ITS THAT BAD. THEY CHEAPED OUT BIG TIME ON THEIR BANDWIDTH.

BITTORRENT.

By: Aussie

Aussie — Wed, 30 Jun 2010 00:00:46 +0000

I thought the BBC tried something like this a couple of years back with a variation on torrents called tstream.

Hard to find info on it, and it doesnt seem to have taken off in any way, but from memory tstream was basically torrents that downloaded the bits in order. So you could watch what you had downloaded, while continuing to download the rest in the background.

By: StopTheMadness

StopTheMadness — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:11:53 +0000

Kudos to NPO for embracing the revolution. However, with DRM…

See gun. See NPO’s foot. BANG!

Sorry, NPO, you guys win a fail for pulling that DRM malware crap. Better luck next time.

By: Ninja

Ninja — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:53:20 +0000

wow, I have a smile from ear to ear right now!

for the initiative, not for the implementation.

make it free to use any client and remove DRM, the 10-day limit is bs.

Still, kudos for them to offer the content online. I would freaking pay for such service, providing it was drm free and I could use my own preferred bt client.

By: Bob

Bob — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:29:26 +0000

If they can get rid of the DRM over time, this could be the future.

By: Mbb

Mbb — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:22:58 +0000

@Ano

I do idiot, im sure you are an american or frech, arrogant dude

By: The United Hackers Association

The United Hackers Association — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:32:41 +0000

CBC.ca has almost all of its stuff via streaming …..almost there….

By: Ghiberti

Ghiberti — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:16:38 +0000

I think they should way for bram Cohen to make the stream protocol to try. Bittorrent is not ideal for streaming.

By: RoestVrijStaal

RoestVrijStaal — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:13:31 +0000

The special tracker for this server seems to be down :(

But still this is a nice trial, to test the future of distribution :)

By: hms-one

hms-one — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:08:21 +0000

I would also like to see ISP’s eventually become a government regulated utility, like water, gas, and elecricity. This would make access universal, affordable, and of uniform quality. It would also make the companies responsible for such an important part of our national infrastructure more answerable to the public which they serve. Of course this would not prevent an internet version of Enron, for example, but I think the benefits would outweigh the risks.

Off topic, I know, sorry. Just throwing it out there.

By: hms-one

hms-one — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:38:21 +0000

I agree that users should resist Digital Restrictions Management in all it’s forms, but I still think this is a step in the right direction. No matter how much copyrights stifle creativity and progress (the exact opposite of their stated intention, btw) they can’t stop it. You can try to slow progress down, but it cannot be stopped.

If these companies wish to roadblock technological advances, they will only be surpassed by new companies who will use those advances to make a profit. BT allows for simultaneous worldwide content distribution and reduces associated costs to next to nothing by distributing them among the viewers. Of course this means losses for distributors,(middlemen) but the potential benefits to content creators and advertisers far outweigh them. The profits to be made from BT distribution are there, just waiting for the right entrepreneur to capitalise them.

Look to the PBS model for some inspiration. “This program brought to you by the following sponsors…” BT distribution will also give new meaning to the phrase “Made possible by Viewers Like You”

It’s only a matter of time middleman. You can choose to lead, follow, or get out of the way.

By: Ano

Ano — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 19:38:06 +0000

Too bad no one cares about Dutch TV.

By: BioBen

BioBen — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:57:24 +0000

@5 politux: I think it means that once you watch it, you automatically seed for 10 days.

By: anon2

anon2 — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:38:43 +0000

isnt it strange how ‘its rights issues’ that keep stopping different things from happening including internet progress from being made with streaming content. i really wonder when these absolute f*****g morons from the copyright industries will realise what dicks they are making of themselves and their industry and the internet opportunities they are losing. i say ‘bloody good job’! perhaps by the time they do realise what they have (not) done, it will be too late for them to catch up, let alone be a part of things. maybe everything will have moved on as well, leaving them further behind!

By: nonynoid

nonynoid — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:29:21 +0000

The article rather glosses over the part where you get DRM shoved in your face. Tax-sponsered, crowd-distributed DRM shit.

By: J.B. Nicholson-Owens

J.B. Nicholson-Owens — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:22:05 +0000

It’s too bad this article’s focus is on the means of spreading files instead of focusing on what freedoms the users are giving up to play the files (media the Dutch viewers paid for?). DRM is never good for users. Illicit sharing is a foot in the door to attempt to justify more control over the viewer. It hardly matters what protocol is used to spread DRM because users shouldn’t have to deal with DRM. Users should not participate in these torrents because that means they’re only helping to spread digital restrictions management.

By: Mbb

Mbb — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:08:16 +0000

Yeehh i live in holland

By: politux

politux — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:04:23 +0000

The purpose of downloading content is to have complete access to it. If I can’t replay the files for more than 10 days why not just stream them? I would only participate in a swarm that resulted in me having a DRM free copy of the file, otherwise why waste my bandwidth sharing something that is going to evaporate after a week?

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By: Dano

Dano — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:51:11 +0000

The only problem for me is you have to use their client and the files have DRM, until that goes i wouldn’t use their service. DRM shouldnt be imbraced as the norm :(

By: Master

Master — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:38:53 +0000

^Correct Becuz u can’t torrent beer

By: ytb

ytb — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:37:11 +0000

this made me smile. nough said

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Because You Can't Torrent Beer — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:32:11 +0000