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		<title>By: Uncle B</title>
		<link>/economists-abolish-copyrightpatents-save-the-economy-090310/#comment-542428</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uncle B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China apparently does not respect U.S. patent law and look what they have done! SEE:
“The astounding Chinese have epoched the great GM, of U.S.A. in producing an Electric/gas/plug-in car! They are driving them in the streets of China as we speak, they will be retailed in the U.S.A. by 2011, they will cost half the price of a &quot;Volt&quot; and they are &quot;On Order&quot; for Israel! GM, take a deep breath, your naughty parts have just been cut off by a Chinese high-tech competitor, and the &quot;Volt&quot; is still &quot;Vapor-ware&quot;!”    See:http://www.cleantech.com/news/3983/chinas-byd-sells-first-mass-produced-plug-cars]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China apparently does not respect U.S. patent law and look what they have done! SEE:<br />
“The astounding Chinese have epoched the great GM, of U.S.A. in producing an Electric/gas/plug-in car! They are driving them in the streets of China as we speak, they will be retailed in the U.S.A. by 2011, they will cost half the price of a &#8220;Volt&#8221; and they are &#8220;On Order&#8221; for Israel! GM, take a deep breath, your naughty parts have just been cut off by a Chinese high-tech competitor, and the &#8220;Volt&#8221; is still &#8220;Vapor-ware&#8221;!”    See:<a href="http://www.cleantech.com/news/3983/chinas-byd-sells-first-mass-produced-plug-cars" rel="nofollow">http://www.cleantech.com/news/3983/chinas-byd-sells-first-mass-produced-plug-cars</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daily newsfeed 03/19/2009 &#171; baixachiado</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daily newsfeed 03/19/2009 &#171; baixachiado]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Economists: Abolish Copyright &amp; Patents to Save the Economy &#124; TorrentFreak [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Natanael L</title>
		<link>/economists-abolish-copyrightpatents-save-the-economy-090310/#comment-540962</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Remember, without patents - what is the incentive to innovate/invent?&quot;

Have you ever heard about open source? It has already been mentioned several times.

Linux, OpenOffice, Firefox, etc... They all live on donations - and they get plenty.
Want to clone their products?
Feel free to, as long as you follow the license.
If you take Firefox&#039;s codebas you can even keep your modifications secret if you want (MPL), or you can publish it and demand that others publish their modifications (GPL).

I&#039;m a big fan of open source, and contribute everything I can think of. I&#039;ve already gotten a shirt sent home to me as thanks without asking for it. The idea has already been implemented. (www.openlina.org)

Sure, I can&#039;t live of that - but what&#039;s up with that thing they call &quot;day jobs&quot;?
Oh right - I&#039;m currently on educating myself to become an electrician.

I don&#039;t know if my name are on a &quot;thank you page&quot; somewhere, and I don&#039;t really care. My ideas are being used and are helping people. If I would demand money for everything they would never have been used.

If everybody would have been that &quot;territorial&quot; about &quot;their&quot; ideas (a lot of my &quot;original&quot; ideas have already been thought of), then I wouldn&#039;t have an entire operating system on my computer where I can do ANYTHING I want - I can get the latest kernel&#039;s source whenever I want, I can create my own file systems, I can replace the GUI, and whatever I want.

Do you know an OS where that is illegal? I do, and you probably have it on your computer (88% chance, ir rather &quot;risk&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Remember, without patents &#8211; what is the incentive to innovate/invent?&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever heard about open source? It has already been mentioned several times.</p>
<p>Linux, OpenOffice, Firefox, etc&#8230; They all live on donations &#8211; and they get plenty.<br />
Want to clone their products?<br />
Feel free to, as long as you follow the license.<br />
If you take Firefox&#8217;s codebas you can even keep your modifications secret if you want (MPL), or you can publish it and demand that others publish their modifications (GPL).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of open source, and contribute everything I can think of. I&#8217;ve already gotten a shirt sent home to me as thanks without asking for it. The idea has already been implemented. (www.openlina.org)</p>
<p>Sure, I can&#8217;t live of that &#8211; but what&#8217;s up with that thing they call &#8220;day jobs&#8221;?<br />
Oh right &#8211; I&#8217;m currently on educating myself to become an electrician.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if my name are on a &#8220;thank you page&#8221; somewhere, and I don&#8217;t really care. My ideas are being used and are helping people. If I would demand money for everything they would never have been used.</p>
<p>If everybody would have been that &#8220;territorial&#8221; about &#8220;their&#8221; ideas (a lot of my &#8220;original&#8221; ideas have already been thought of), then I wouldn&#8217;t have an entire operating system on my computer where I can do ANYTHING I want &#8211; I can get the latest kernel&#8217;s source whenever I want, I can create my own file systems, I can replace the GUI, and whatever I want.</p>
<p>Do you know an OS where that is illegal? I do, and you probably have it on your computer (88% chance, ir rather &#8220;risk&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: How to lose millions of friends in 10 years &#171; Soundness in a soundless world</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to lose millions of friends in 10 years &#171; Soundness in a soundless world]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] de immaterialrättsliga monopolen skadar både ekonomin och kulturutvecklingen. Det behövs en digital intellektuell [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 01:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patents need to satisfy the &quot;patent bargain&quot; to be worthwhile economically:

(1) The inventor should be perfectly capable of keeping the product a trade secret and profiting from it anyway.

(2) In order to get a patent, the inventor should be obligated to release complete specs so that any idiot could completely clone the product.

That way, the patent provides monopolistic benefits which would have been obtained anyway by trade secret without the patent, but gives the public information for later use.  (The patenter benefits by not having to guard his secret.)

Other than that patents are worthless.  If you have no right to patent your work, but you can&#039;t keep it secret while selling it, you&#039;ll share it anyway -- you&#039;ll advertise as &#039;The Original&#039; and &#039;The Inventor&#039; and make money.  If you don&#039;t share it you make nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patents need to satisfy the &#8220;patent bargain&#8221; to be worthwhile economically:</p>
<p>(1) The inventor should be perfectly capable of keeping the product a trade secret and profiting from it anyway.</p>
<p>(2) In order to get a patent, the inventor should be obligated to release complete specs so that any idiot could completely clone the product.</p>
<p>That way, the patent provides monopolistic benefits which would have been obtained anyway by trade secret without the patent, but gives the public information for later use.  (The patenter benefits by not having to guard his secret.)</p>
<p>Other than that patents are worthless.  If you have no right to patent your work, but you can&#8217;t keep it secret while selling it, you&#8217;ll share it anyway &#8212; you&#8217;ll advertise as &#8216;The Original&#8217; and &#8216;The Inventor&#8217; and make money.  If you don&#8217;t share it you make nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Idea Man</title>
		<link>/economists-abolish-copyrightpatents-save-the-economy-090310/#comment-540315</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve got an idea!  Patents and copyrights should have a cap.  What I mean is, if the owner of the patent or copyright is able to report a cumulative profit within one taxable year of, let&#039;s say, over $10 US million, then the patent or copyright becomes open to the public.  This also helps with the socialist &quot;share the wealth&quot; message (if that&#039;s your thing).  The only people who would obviously oppose this idea are the greedy individuals and corporations who feel as if $10 million isn&#039;t enough for their genius/innovation.  Flame away!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got an idea!  Patents and copyrights should have a cap.  What I mean is, if the owner of the patent or copyright is able to report a cumulative profit within one taxable year of, let&#8217;s say, over $10 US million, then the patent or copyright becomes open to the public.  This also helps with the socialist &#8220;share the wealth&#8221; message (if that&#8217;s your thing).  The only people who would obviously oppose this idea are the greedy individuals and corporations who feel as if $10 million isn&#8217;t enough for their genius/innovation.  Flame away!</p>
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		<title>By: [TF] Economists: Abolish Copyright &#38; Patents to Save the Economy - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[TF] Economists: Abolish Copyright &#38; Patents to Save the Economy - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the system to be reformed.    I found this one to be an interesting read, along with the video.  SOURCE    __________________ We Are Gr33n [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Antinomian</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@58

The reason open source organizations utilize a form of copyright is that under current law if you don&#039;t copyright your work someone else can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@58</p>
<p>The reason open source organizations utilize a form of copyright is that under current law if you don&#8217;t copyright your work someone else can.</p>
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		<title>By: Tekniken snabbare än lagstiftarna &#171; Tomas sida</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tekniken snabbare än lagstiftarna &#171; Tomas sida]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] dock om två intressanta, och mer positiva, nyheter i sammanhanget. Den första, att upphovsrätten inte är särskilt bra var egentligen ingen nyhet, men det är bra att det kommer från flera håll, för ju fler [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] dock om två intressanta, och mer positiva, nyheter i sammanhanget. Den första, att upphovsrätten inte är särskilt bra var egentligen ingen nyhet, men det är bra att det kommer från flera håll, för ju fler [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting ideas. The way I see it patents should be completely abolished globally. They are bad for innovation and they are bad
for the world in general. As for copyright most Free Software/
Open Source uses copyright but the terms on copyright are absurd.

They should be reduced drastically. And the one thing that copyright
should be limited to is to people... Human beings NOT corporations
it should be not transferable to corporations, companies and so forth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting ideas. The way I see it patents should be completely abolished globally. They are bad for innovation and they are bad<br />
for the world in general. As for copyright most Free Software/<br />
Open Source uses copyright but the terms on copyright are absurd.</p>
<p>They should be reduced drastically. And the one thing that copyright<br />
should be limited to is to people&#8230; Human beings NOT corporations<br />
it should be not transferable to corporations, companies and so forth.</p>
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