Comments on: Economy Profits From File-Sharing, Report Concludes

By: Show - Episode 14 - Apple's Up To It Again | MyGeekWeek

Show - Episode 14 - Apple's Up To It Again | MyGeekWeek — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:48:39 +0000

[...] Economy benefits from file sharing [...]

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Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:08:35 +0000

"Everyone is allowed their opinion."
That also includes the opinion that some other "human" is a scum of the earth and that humanity would be better without him/her.

By: Älymystö » Give Stuff for Free - Increase Your Sales By 23 000%

Älymystö » Give Stuff for Free - Increase Your Sales By 23 000% — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:55:16 +0000

[...] What happened was that their DVD sales rose by a measly 23 000%. At the same time a major study done in Netherlands revealed that file sharing actually helps the Dutch economy by 100 million euros per year, file [...]

By: Estudio del gobierno holandés concluye que el P2P es bueno para la economía « Movimiento Anti NWO

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:20:08 +0000

[...] esas ventajas está el hecho de que el intercambio de archivos proporciona a la gente el acceso a un amplio rango [...]

By: Economia lucra com a partilha de ficheiros, afirma relatório « O Vigia

Economia lucra com a partilha de ficheiros, afirma relatório « O Vigia — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:30:39 +0000

[...] com a partilha de ficheiros, afirma relatório Publicado em Janeiro 22, 2009 por ovigia Um relatório patrocinado pelo governo Holandês recentemente publicado conclui que a partilha de ficheiros em redes P2P beneficia a economia, no [...]

By: poor industry

poor industry — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:42:44 +0000

I have yet to see the MAFIAA prove in court that they are “losing” any money at all. And the simple fact that they are making more PROFIT then ever, according to their own figures even, doesn’t really help their case.

By: n3l87

n3l87 — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:05:20 +0000

Hey hey. Be nice. Everyone is allowed their opinion.

I do agree with Roze, though. If one group has to get hurt, I'd rather it be the minority rather then all of us. And what they are doing right now is hurting the majority, with all their bullshit lawsuits.

Think about it: Clogging the courts with these civil proceedings about copyright infringement, when the courts are already clogged with other types of proceedings (in-trading stock holders, murderers, etc…. you know, the important stuff)… well that there just seems damn foolish… Kind of like sending more shit down the toilet when it's already clogged with shit. Guess what happens? It overflows and everyone loses. Especially you.

By: n3l87

n3l87 — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:58:29 +0000

Exactly right. If the book doesn't exist, how will the judge be able to throw it at the RIAA/MPAA reps?

By: Après, ils se demandent pourquoi on télécharge… « Le Bagel Blog

Après, ils se demandent pourquoi on télécharge… « Le Bagel Blog — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:18:20 +0000

[...] elle avance même le fait que le téléchargement stimulerait l’économie néerlandaise en rapportant plus de 100 millions d’euros par année!!! L’équation est toujours la même: Ceux qui téléchargent sont parmi ceux qui consomment le [...]

By: Hans

Hans — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:43:37 +0000

The guys that wrote this report need a few lessons on P2P. The report refers to scamsites like emule.com and fake sites like torrentspy.nl. And eMule the second most used P2P-program? Every torrentfreak knows this can't be right! Check http://www.digimuziek.nl/nieuws/?p=101(Dutch)

By: John Savage

John Savage — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:32:37 +0000

Sounds justified to me it does! LOL

RT
http://www.web-privacy.pro.tc

By: justapoint

justapoint — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:27:20 +0000

Of course it's great for the economy. The Netherlands isn't an entertainment machine: the Dutch are ripping media that would have profited artists/companies in Other countries.

Of course sales are lost. Just about the time file-sharing became user-friendly via Napster (1999-2001), physical CD sales peaked and started declining. While online digital sales have climbed rapidly, they really don't make up for declining CD sales.

I download free music and would stop if the consequences were harsh enough, which they never will be because the there's too many 'of us'. Cops don't go after drivers that speed about 5 miles an hour: it would be prohibitively burdensome. When the concepts of digital file as individual product (as opposed to a harmless copy) penetrates our moral compass, we might care to stop illegally downloading. That I can't see happening however

By: [ El P2P es bueno para la economía en MAKARRAS.org con k de kinki ]

[ El P2P es bueno para la economía en MAKARRAS.org con k de kinki ] — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:33:41 +0000

[...] esas ventajas está el hecho de que el intercambio de archivos proporciona a la gente el acceso a un amplio rango [...]

By: Estudio del gobierno holandés concluye que el P2P es bueno para la economía | Notix.com.mx

Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:14:19 +0000

[...] Un estudio encargado por el gobierno holandés ha demostrado que la compartición de ficheros en Internet tiene un efecto positivo para la economía, tanto a corto como a largo plazo. Y eso a pesar de las críticas de la industria musical, que sigue luchando con todas sus armas contra servicios y entidades que promocionan o facilitan este tipo de actividades. El caso holandés es interesante por ser muy similar al de España. Original en ENG torrentfreak.com/economy-profits-from-file-sharing-report-concludes-09/ [...]

By: links for 2009-01-20 « Clint’s blog

links for 2009-01-20 « Clint’s blog — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:45:24 +0000

[...] P2P: Economy Profits From File-Sharing, Report Concludes Nice. (tags: politics intellectualProperty corporations p2p studies economics RIAA copyright GeekPolitics Dutch reports fileSharing benefits) [...]

By: Lorsque le piratage est bénéfique pour l’économie | Mind Overflow

Lorsque le piratage est bénéfique pour l’économie | Mind Overflow — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 13:19:44 +0000

[...] Sur Torrentfreak : economy profits from file-sharing, report concludes. [...]

By: Estudio del gobierno holandés concluye que el P2P es bueno para la economía

Estudio del gobierno holandés concluye que el P2P es bueno para la economía — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:05:12 +0000

[...] de actividades. El caso holandés es interesante por ser muy similar al de España. Original en ENG torrentfreak.com/economy-profits-from-file-sharing-report-concludes-09/ sin comentarios en: tecnología, internet karma: 98 etiquetas: p2p votos negativos: [...]

By: Estudo holandês conclui que a partilha de ficheiros é boa para a economia | Remixtures

Tue, 20 Jan 2009 11:20:06 +0000

[...] de 142 páginas encontra-se disponível apenas em holandês mas tanto a Ars Technica como o TorrentFreak publicaram resumos das principais conclusões do estudo. Os investigadores realizaram um inquérito [...]

By: Merlin

Merlin — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 04:27:25 +0000

Hey, you RIAA advocate, why don't you do humanity a favor and jump off a cliff? Humanity clearly doesn't need any more pieces of shit like you.

By: alice

alice — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:58:40 +0000

Care to cite any data that shows that any sales were lost, hmm?

By: flandre

flandre — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:56:01 +0000

Eat shit and die, you MAFIAA fuck.

By: Roze

Roze — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:11:20 +0000

You mean, more like abolitionism. Abolitionism harmed the slave owners who lost their slaves, but all the slaves became free, which was, in general, good for the economy of the south.

What do you suggest anyway? Harming the majority (almost everyone) to benefit one group of people (the MAFIAA &c.)?

By: Roze

Roze — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:10:31 +0000

You mean, more like abolitionism. Abolitionism harmed the slave owners who lost their slaves, but all the slaves became free, which was, in general, good for the economy of the south.

By: Roze

Roze — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:09:55 +0000

You mean, more like abolitionism. Abolitionism harmed a whole lot of slave owners who lost their slaves, but all the slaves became free, which was, in general, good for the economy of the south.

By: yhj

yhj — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 01:39:49 +0000

"While it is recognized that the entertainment industry suffers some losses, these don’t outweigh the positive effects of file-sharing."

So, hurting one group of people so it benefits the majority is good, right?

Slavery, anyone?

By: hellochris

hellochris — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 23:55:02 +0000

For those of you who can read Dutch, I downloaded the report and am willing to e-mail it to you. You can reach me at: hellochris@live.nl for a request.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:51:52 +0000

Were you joking? Because, if you weren't, remember!!! How are poor artists supposed to make money through selling CDs in the first place, especially if they sign on with a recod label?

By: asdjkl

asdjkl — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:20:17 +0000

in3rtia, you forgot all those poor artists who can't make any money… and further on, think about all the JOBS that will be lost!!!

By: mafiaas death rattle

mafiaas death rattle — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:10:54 +0000

We all new this already, the whole "try before you buy" thing is one of reasons why most people torrent, torrenting helps weed out the companies releasing crappy content so our money is well spent & not wasted. Best thing the dutch gov could've done to show what liars the mpaa/riaa are, great to see their reputation is just getting worse, soon they will be extinct so then artists & consumers will be truly free

By: in3rtia

in3rtia — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:31:22 +0000

*whoosh*

Was being facetious. :p

By: Economy Profits From File-Sharing, Report Concludes | TorrentFreak | Business and Financial Blog

Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:27:27 +0000

[...] Here is the original post: Economy Profits From File-Sharing, Report Concludes | TorrentFreak [...]

By: RoestVrijStaal

RoestVrijStaal — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:23:08 +0000

Here is another mirror of the report.
For this mirror you shouldn't have a account (in compare with the link in the blogpost).
http://www.ez.nl/dsresource?objectid=161961&t…

Shame that Kazaa and TorrentSpy were mentioned in the report. They are both dead.

I hope the Dutch gov take the report serious and change the rules of file sharing on base of the report.

By: » Il file sharing è positivo, secondo una ricerca olandese

» Il file sharing è positivo, secondo una ricerca olandese — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:15:13 +0000

[...] Via | Torrentfreak.com [...]

By: Fancy Pants

Fancy Pants — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:58:30 +0000

This should teach the (non-) organisations like RIAA, MPAA, BRIEN, etc, etc to look before they leap, they might find they've actually walked the plank of their own accord.

By: Johan Ronström » Blog Archive » Fler undersökningar och rapporter

Johan Ronström » Blog Archive » Fler undersökningar och rapporter — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:23:30 +0000

[...] holländsk rapport konstaterar att fildelning har positiva ekonomiska effekter. Emma skriver även om [...]

By: dxtr

dxtr — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:06:09 +0000

Wow! I never knew that I had been contributing to the growth of my country's economy since age 10! That is so cool! http://stuckinframes.blogspot.com

By: » It’s official: file sharing is good for us

» It’s official: file sharing is good for us — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 18:02:16 +0000

[...] Read the original Torrentfreak post on the report by clicking here. [...]

By: Oli

Oli — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:54:55 +0000

i dunno.
in my opinion they don't lost anything because those 30% who downloaded that stuff wouldn't buy it if they couldn't download it.

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:39:58 +0000

Now, after the study is concluded, there ought to be a book published (written by someone more knowledgeable than myself, preferably) to make the case for file-sharing, so that there will be a definitive case for file-sharing.

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:38:02 +0000

Now, all that is needed is for a book to be published that will argue the case for file-sharing. No such book exists yet, and it is important that one does exist because otherwise, there will be no case made for file-sharing. Preferably, this book would be written by someone who is more knowledgeable than myself.

By: EZEE

EZEE — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:24:23 +0000

Bet the outcome of this study had morons from the MAFIAA reaching for anti-acid pills,
all their hard work of spin and lies officially debunked not by some 'terrorist funded breakaway free thinkers' but by the very govt that they are so desperately bribing and lobbying.

Guys, if you can… take autographs and pictures of these people working at anti-piracy organizations, they are going to be worth quite a bit soon… they always do when a particular segment has gone extinct!

Say hello to the Dodo for us Mr. MAFIAA man!

Cheers!
http://www.eZee.se

By: mister_playboy

mister_playboy — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:19:45 +0000

Glad to hear some people are interested in actually studying the filesharing community and that they have motives other than maximizing profit and maintaining the status quo at all costs.

By: Scene Blog.info » Blog Archive » Wirtschaft profitiert von Filesharing

Scene Blog.info » Blog Archive » Wirtschaft profitiert von Filesharing — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:40:13 +0000

[...] Quelle: torrentfreak [...]

By: Spanky69

Spanky69 — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:35:03 +0000

It's the same link that's posted at the beginning of the article.

By: santoscrew

santoscrew — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:16:01 +0000

the report (http://tno.nl/content.cfm?context=markten&con...looks interesting. im gonna have to read it

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:00:52 +0000

One of the main reasons for the loss in sales for the music industry, is competition with other forms of entertainment.
By the industry's logic, they should also outlaw those other forms of entertainment because it is making them "lose sales."

The fact is that this report right now is not well-known, so it might be good to publicize it, for people who are able to do such a thing. So far, I have not yet seen a single book that argues that file-sharing is positive.

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:59:58 +0000

Perhaps it is time for the current legislature of the Netherlands to pay attention to this report and propose/introduce legislation in this direction?

Perhaps it might be good to create some manifesto and petition the government with it.

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:57:56 +0000

Perhaps it is time for the current legislature of the Netherlands to pay attention to this report and propose/introduce legislation in this direction?

Perhaps it might be good to create some manifesto and petition the government with it.

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:57:29 +0000

Perhaps it is time for the current legislature of the Netherlands to pay attention to this report and propose/introduce legislation in this direction?

Perhaps it might be good to create some manifesto and petition the government with it.

The fact is that this report right now is not well-known, so it might do some good for people who are able to do such a thing to publicize it. So far, I have not yet seen a single book that argues that file-sharing is positive.

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:57:05 +0000

Perhaps it is time for the current legislature of the Netherlands to pay attention to this report and propose/introduce legislation in this direction?

Perhaps it might be good to create some manifesto and petition the government with it.