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		<title>By: [TorrentFreak]Electronics Retailer Pirates Movies - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[TorrentFreak]Electronics Retailer Pirates Movies - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 06:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Miguel of a ?Cars? Blu-ray movie rip running on VLC Media Player, on a Macbook, in the store.      http://torrentfreak.com/electronics-...cbooks-090422/     __________________   British Overclockers Club  [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Miguel of a ?Cars? Blu-ray movie rip running on VLC Media Player, on a Macbook, in the store.      <a href="http://torrentfreak.com/electronics-" rel="nofollow">http://torrentfreak.com/electronics-</a>&#8230;cbooks-090422/     __________________   British Overclockers Club  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: theman</title>
		<link>/electronics-retailer-pirates-movies-to-sell-macbooks-090422/#comment-555488</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[theman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hilarious how disconnected the RIAA/MAFIAA are from reality. They think copyright infringement is the MINORITY ? Yeah right. It&#039;s bigger then EVER before thanks to fast internet and evolving technology like iPod, PMPs, ect. As everyone has said, it&#039;s here to stay. If you want people to pay for your products you should provide a service that is BETTER then piracy for a good price. For instance I am signed up at Netflix and I use it to stream movies that I&#039;d otherwise have downloaded with bit torrent. If they had a better selection of movies, television shows, and quality, I&#039;d use them ENTIRELY and not have to store all the crap on my hard drive. So, if you want Piracy to stop you have to give people a BETTER option then what they currently have, not a WORSE one! Get your head out of the clouds and get with the times. I actively spread knowledge about BT, public and private trackers, FTP, et all and this only creates a larger and stronger base for us.

Get with the times and deliver us something that we are WILLING to pay for!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hilarious how disconnected the RIAA/MAFIAA are from reality. They think copyright infringement is the MINORITY ? Yeah right. It&#8217;s bigger then EVER before thanks to fast internet and evolving technology like iPod, PMPs, ect. As everyone has said, it&#8217;s here to stay. If you want people to pay for your products you should provide a service that is BETTER then piracy for a good price. For instance I am signed up at Netflix and I use it to stream movies that I&#8217;d otherwise have downloaded with bit torrent. If they had a better selection of movies, television shows, and quality, I&#8217;d use them ENTIRELY and not have to store all the crap on my hard drive. So, if you want Piracy to stop you have to give people a BETTER option then what they currently have, not a WORSE one! Get your head out of the clouds and get with the times. I actively spread knowledge about BT, public and private trackers, FTP, et all and this only creates a larger and stronger base for us.</p>
<p>Get with the times and deliver us something that we are WILLING to pay for!</p>
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		<title>By: jag</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 18:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Common Sense:

No, that&#039;s bootlegging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Common Sense:</p>
<p>No, that&#8217;s bootlegging.</p>
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		<title>By: common_sense</title>
		<link>/electronics-retailer-pirates-movies-to-sell-macbooks-090422/#comment-553457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common_sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PIRACY is MAKING money from copying and SELLING copyright material.

SHARING Stuff does NOT make you a Pirate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PIRACY is MAKING money from copying and SELLING copyright material.</p>
<p>SHARING Stuff does NOT make you a Pirate.</p>
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		<title>By: eZee.se</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eZee.se]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Reasoned Mind

***********
    “Copyright infringement is not *stealing*”

    That’s all in the eye of the beholder. 
***********
Drinking a lot of the RIAA cool aid, are you?


*******
    “Yes, we are entitled to it.“

    You can tell that to the judge. 
*******
Dont need to, its not a crime to think so, and your buddies have not had success in making it into a crime... yet.



**** 
If you actually do want to dedicate yourself to a life of cat and mouse a step ahead of law enforcement
****

There is no cat and mouse...the mouse in a separate house as is the cat, you are the one still hiding behind a nick, while I am pretty open about who i am, what does that say?

As for your fantasies of a closed down internet, while it might be good and give you wet dreams... its never going to happen.
Governments will bend backwards due to corruption.. but they are not going to break their back for you.

And piracy is on the rise, not the decline... and has been for years, your dreams of pirates being an absolute minority are just that... dreams.


***
But your VPN’s and your proxies are temporary fixes and I know you realize this, too
***
Unlike the content industries we evolve immediately, *IF* one day VPNs are no longer the safest place to voice your opinion against oppression,corruption and injustice, it will be replaced by something else...which will be as good or better than how VPN is today, you do realize that dont you?


**
Once you are in perpetual hiding
**
Again you talk about hiding, and again i ask you.... who is really hiding, you or me?


**
 you’ll live your life on that proxy+VPN hoping no one has cracked it yet while rubbing elbows with every common VPN-using pedophile
**
HEHE, first people like tried to associate p2p with organized crime and terrorism (loved that video by the way) now its VPNs with pedos?
good luck with that.
I&#039;ll be sure to tell all the businesses and govt agencies using VPNs who they are &quot;rubbing elbows with&quot; :)


As for how hard it is to &quot;hide&quot; behind a VPN, here&#039;s how it works, double click VPN icon, click connect, heck... thats even easier than logging into my email account!

***
    Yeah, you’ll always be smarter than me.
***
If I was not, I would be behind bars (and you would have a big smile on your face)... thats where you want people &quot;like me&quot;, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Reasoned Mind</p>
<p>***********<br />
    “Copyright infringement is not *stealing*”</p>
<p>    That’s all in the eye of the beholder.<br />
***********<br />
Drinking a lot of the RIAA cool aid, are you?</p>
<p>*******<br />
    “Yes, we are entitled to it.“</p>
<p>    You can tell that to the judge.<br />
*******<br />
Dont need to, its not a crime to think so, and your buddies have not had success in making it into a crime&#8230; yet.</p>
<p>****<br />
If you actually do want to dedicate yourself to a life of cat and mouse a step ahead of law enforcement<br />
****</p>
<p>There is no cat and mouse&#8230;the mouse in a separate house as is the cat, you are the one still hiding behind a nick, while I am pretty open about who i am, what does that say?</p>
<p>As for your fantasies of a closed down internet, while it might be good and give you wet dreams&#8230; its never going to happen.<br />
Governments will bend backwards due to corruption.. but they are not going to break their back for you.</p>
<p>And piracy is on the rise, not the decline&#8230; and has been for years, your dreams of pirates being an absolute minority are just that&#8230; dreams.</p>
<p>***<br />
But your VPN’s and your proxies are temporary fixes and I know you realize this, too<br />
***<br />
Unlike the content industries we evolve immediately, *IF* one day VPNs are no longer the safest place to voice your opinion against oppression,corruption and injustice, it will be replaced by something else&#8230;which will be as good or better than how VPN is today, you do realize that dont you?</p>
<p>**<br />
Once you are in perpetual hiding<br />
**<br />
Again you talk about hiding, and again i ask you&#8230;. who is really hiding, you or me?</p>
<p>**<br />
 you’ll live your life on that proxy+VPN hoping no one has cracked it yet while rubbing elbows with every common VPN-using pedophile<br />
**<br />
HEHE, first people like tried to associate p2p with organized crime and terrorism (loved that video by the way) now its VPNs with pedos?<br />
good luck with that.<br />
I&#8217;ll be sure to tell all the businesses and govt agencies using VPNs who they are &#8220;rubbing elbows with&#8221; :)</p>
<p>As for how hard it is to &#8220;hide&#8221; behind a VPN, here&#8217;s how it works, double click VPN icon, click connect, heck&#8230; thats even easier than logging into my email account!</p>
<p>***<br />
    Yeah, you’ll always be smarter than me.<br />
***<br />
If I was not, I would be behind bars (and you would have a big smile on your face)&#8230; thats where you want people &#8220;like me&#8221;, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Turbis</title>
		<link>/electronics-retailer-pirates-movies-to-sell-macbooks-090422/#comment-553295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Turbis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d do the same thing if I owned a shop in spain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d do the same thing if I owned a shop in spain.</p>
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		<title>By: Reasoned Mind</title>
		<link>/electronics-retailer-pirates-movies-to-sell-macbooks-090422/#comment-553263</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reasoned Mind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Nub#49:
I appreciate a vote of confidence from one of the other good thinkers here. It’s always a chuckle when some braying moron accuses us of being one and the same, or paid by some government or industry to embody loyal opposition. We all love this network and we are all in this together. It’s just a fact that piracy has always existed, it’s always been wrong and it’s momentarily benefitting from a technical boost. The “revolutionists” here are just dumb. 

It would have been cool if we had organized and stopped buying long before the internet and effected genuine change to these exploitive industries. Instead, the TF fanbois approach this as a drunken smash-and-grab and then whine when they get precisely what they earn. I still say the jury is very out on whether this approach to business will gather much real traction. In the bigger picture, the industries go on as before with government and law enforcement at their side as always. Given the mindset of piracy, I predict this is going to get WAY MORE adversarial and insanely punitive before any real change occurs. A drunk---- intoxicated on his own self-importance and chestbumping the LEO rarely goes well for the drunk and that’s about where we are at the moment.

Your points are well considered as always but this time short sighted, perhaps. Pull back and see a larger, longer picture. 

The innovation cycle is 1000 times shorter than it was in the 18th century when the mere thought of radio was absurd. It won’t take long for VPN’s and proxy’s to be the cute tech equivalent of our old 14.4 baud dial-ups. The cat and mouse game never changes. I lol at the pathetic mouse self-image most pirates embody but they have that correct and they will live furtive, anxious online lives if they are dumbass enough to take a criminal path in pride. Serves each one right, in my view. Poor quality thinking leads no where worth going.

The growing misuse of any tech will only lead to the licensing and eventual public loss of that tech. It’s a fact of life that private online illegal activists have the VPN anonymizer in common, Nub, so the associations that I mentioned already exist. To remind me that “they all wear pants and drink coffee, too” is just sophism. Eventually VPN will be synonymous with criminal intent if this keeps going as it is. There is no “right” to privacy anywhere: the closest some countries founding documents get to that are the “right to the RESPECT” for privacy but not the privacy itself. Why? Because rights are RIGHTS and privacy evaporates in a finger snap when “reasonable suspicion” of wrongdoing does documentable harm to others. The reasonable suspicion doctrine--and the documentable harm--- has been on the table in online activity for almost a decade and I think a “right to privacy” is a non-starter in this issue. Personally, I don’t think government needs to know what I do in my cellar, either, but if similar trends around the world set up cellar counterfeiting operations or hashish manufacturing in these kinds of numbers, “Cellar Inspection Initiatives” would be instituted and carried out all over the globe and you know it. History shows this time and again, Nub. Weave on the highway? Take a breath test. Hide your bag from the camera? Get searched on the way out. You might as well argue for your “right” to illegal pharma manufacture or to posses an assault rifle. VPN privacy to demonstrable harm? Never gonna happen.  

So the bigger picture is what digital industry really wants but all they are actually entitled to is the same quid pro quo, “one product possession/one purchase”, that any other material industry is entitled to. You can bet governments want their cut in taxes, too. So my feeling is that this is all part of a very long term strategy that pushes to a breaking point of some sort and then governments grant digital creators the levies they need to keep going, imposed on all of us and permanently institutionalizing the entertainment cartels. And what an achievement! No more speculative risk or return on investment, now they just sit back fat and happy and collect their cut while we pay regardless of what they do or not.

And at that point they will have outmaneuvered every mouthbreather on the network, eZee and company included, too excited stealing the latest illegal copies of Wolverine and Demigod to think that far ahead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nub#49:<br />
I appreciate a vote of confidence from one of the other good thinkers here. It’s always a chuckle when some braying moron accuses us of being one and the same, or paid by some government or industry to embody loyal opposition. We all love this network and we are all in this together. It’s just a fact that piracy has always existed, it’s always been wrong and it’s momentarily benefitting from a technical boost. The “revolutionists” here are just dumb. </p>
<p>It would have been cool if we had organized and stopped buying long before the internet and effected genuine change to these exploitive industries. Instead, the TF fanbois approach this as a drunken smash-and-grab and then whine when they get precisely what they earn. I still say the jury is very out on whether this approach to business will gather much real traction. In the bigger picture, the industries go on as before with government and law enforcement at their side as always. Given the mindset of piracy, I predict this is going to get WAY MORE adversarial and insanely punitive before any real change occurs. A drunk&#8212;- intoxicated on his own self-importance and chestbumping the LEO rarely goes well for the drunk and that’s about where we are at the moment.</p>
<p>Your points are well considered as always but this time short sighted, perhaps. Pull back and see a larger, longer picture. </p>
<p>The innovation cycle is 1000 times shorter than it was in the 18th century when the mere thought of radio was absurd. It won’t take long for VPN’s and proxy’s to be the cute tech equivalent of our old 14.4 baud dial-ups. The cat and mouse game never changes. I lol at the pathetic mouse self-image most pirates embody but they have that correct and they will live furtive, anxious online lives if they are dumbass enough to take a criminal path in pride. Serves each one right, in my view. Poor quality thinking leads no where worth going.</p>
<p>The growing misuse of any tech will only lead to the licensing and eventual public loss of that tech. It’s a fact of life that private online illegal activists have the VPN anonymizer in common, Nub, so the associations that I mentioned already exist. To remind me that “they all wear pants and drink coffee, too” is just sophism. Eventually VPN will be synonymous with criminal intent if this keeps going as it is. There is no “right” to privacy anywhere: the closest some countries founding documents get to that are the “right to the RESPECT” for privacy but not the privacy itself. Why? Because rights are RIGHTS and privacy evaporates in a finger snap when “reasonable suspicion” of wrongdoing does documentable harm to others. The reasonable suspicion doctrine&#8211;and the documentable harm&#8212; has been on the table in online activity for almost a decade and I think a “right to privacy” is a non-starter in this issue. Personally, I don’t think government needs to know what I do in my cellar, either, but if similar trends around the world set up cellar counterfeiting operations or hashish manufacturing in these kinds of numbers, “Cellar Inspection Initiatives” would be instituted and carried out all over the globe and you know it. History shows this time and again, Nub. Weave on the highway? Take a breath test. Hide your bag from the camera? Get searched on the way out. You might as well argue for your “right” to illegal pharma manufacture or to posses an assault rifle. VPN privacy to demonstrable harm? Never gonna happen.  </p>
<p>So the bigger picture is what digital industry really wants but all they are actually entitled to is the same quid pro quo, “one product possession/one purchase”, that any other material industry is entitled to. You can bet governments want their cut in taxes, too. So my feeling is that this is all part of a very long term strategy that pushes to a breaking point of some sort and then governments grant digital creators the levies they need to keep going, imposed on all of us and permanently institutionalizing the entertainment cartels. And what an achievement! No more speculative risk or return on investment, now they just sit back fat and happy and collect their cut while we pay regardless of what they do or not.</p>
<p>And at that point they will have outmaneuvered every mouthbreather on the network, eZee and company included, too excited stealing the latest illegal copies of Wolverine and Demigod to think that far ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: akademos</title>
		<link>/electronics-retailer-pirates-movies-to-sell-macbooks-090422/#comment-553258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akademos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t find this surprising at all.
Infact i think it has just now been highlighted in a popular website.

London, New York or Taiwan..I have seen big electronic retail giants playing an amazing HD rip of The Bee Movie or Madagascar or Transformers in their Laptops...you can easily makeout..sometimes the file name shows up in the player with extension with the rippers name ..LOL !!!!

Fact is that they have such a huge inventory to display that it will cost a huge extra bucks to display each an every unit of laptops and desktops with HD content...And bear in mind they have LCD,Plasma,Home Theatre, big monitors for display..

This is nothing new...

And about IPod success...even Apple knows the truth !!!! This is just so fucking true...millions of 160 and 200 gigs ipods are sold each year all over the world...most of these countries does not even have itunes or any legal music download service in their region...don&#039;t tell me that the kids are all buying cd&#039;s and then ripping and stacking up their Ipods :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t find this surprising at all.<br />
Infact i think it has just now been highlighted in a popular website.</p>
<p>London, New York or Taiwan..I have seen big electronic retail giants playing an amazing HD rip of The Bee Movie or Madagascar or Transformers in their Laptops&#8230;you can easily makeout..sometimes the file name shows up in the player with extension with the rippers name ..LOL !!!!</p>
<p>Fact is that they have such a huge inventory to display that it will cost a huge extra bucks to display each an every unit of laptops and desktops with HD content&#8230;And bear in mind they have LCD,Plasma,Home Theatre, big monitors for display..</p>
<p>This is nothing new&#8230;</p>
<p>And about IPod success&#8230;even Apple knows the truth !!!! This is just so fucking true&#8230;millions of 160 and 200 gigs ipods are sold each year all over the world&#8230;most of these countries does not even have itunes or any legal music download service in their region&#8230;don&#8217;t tell me that the kids are all buying cd&#8217;s and then ripping and stacking up their Ipods :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>/electronics-retailer-pirates-movies-to-sell-macbooks-090422/#comment-553192</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They are using a blue-ray rip to show off the macBook, which is cool... 

Would they be leading consumers into believing that its a perfect piece of hardware to use for playing pirated movies? I don&#039;t believe that is their intention but it does smell funky!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are using a blue-ray rip to show off the macBook, which is cool&#8230; </p>
<p>Would they be leading consumers into believing that its a perfect piece of hardware to use for playing pirated movies? I don&#8217;t believe that is their intention but it does smell funky!</p>
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		<title>By: ju</title>
		<link>/electronics-retailer-pirates-movies-to-sell-macbooks-090422/#comment-553107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ju]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nothing new, we did this at dick smith electronics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nothing new, we did this at dick smith electronics.</p>
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