Oh.. motherfuckers…

Of course he can travel and work.

A bad settlement, but not so bad as you think.

It’s not just 6 months in at the pound you in the ass hotel, it’s a lifetime record. Travel, employment, it’s never ending what your caught off from.

After prison he won’t be the same.

His lawyer telling him this was a good thing is also, REALLY out there.

Can the big money greedy companies please get off their public!!!

I can easly post you a manifesto from a very similar site that offers a better data sharing community but that would put the community i’m currently in under threat which to me is a BIG no no….

Capitalism was a experiment tried tested and failed by the world goverments…

i’m sure i’m not the only one that knows this…

Were is all our money? in the banks… Who messed up managing our money??? the banks…

Who know own the banks??? the goverment…

I can’t begin to state my anger at these people and their dirty methods of FUD, intimidating an terrorising people like us who help others do file-sharing …

This shows how a judicial system can be set up in a way that poor people with little resources to endure years of trials de facto don’t get equal treatment before the law.

This stinks to high heaven.

Shame on the media industry for their bullying. May they realise how futile their FUD is on a big scale.

The only time they have ever won is when the defendant doesnt have any money or time to defend himself.

For proof, just google “La Excepción”, the spanish hip hop band that just left their big soul-sucking company precisely because of that. They’ve put their last CD for free on the internet, and they’re counting on concerts to earn real money.

So, uh, what exactly did happen here?

Hey “Judge Dredd”, by reading the above article and comments, the spanish criminal judges obviously doesn’t agree with you, so unless some divine entity made you jury, judge and executioner, why don’t you keep your fascist antisocial ranting to yourself asshole!!

No. He was running a non-profit service to provide free material to music consumers without any economic gain.

“that’s what the site was designed for.”

No. It was designed to offer people an easy method of finding digital files from an index.

“that’s why it was popular.”

A site is never popular because an owner makes money out of it. It is popular because the person who runs the site meets the demands of the consumer. Something that the entertainment industry has a lot to learn from.

“and that’s exactly what people did.”

Were the people making money? No. Nobody was making any money anywhere. Complete nonsense.

“the fact that it was only links and that he himself didn’t host any of the infringing content is nothing more than a technicality for cowards to hide behind.”

If for once in a while the law is on our side, you call us cowards? Heh, lol, an impressive display of hypocrisy for someone who is a member of a corporate organisation which resorts to paying off politicians to shape the law according to how they want.

“Intellectual property is as important as physical property and should be no less protected under the law.”

Nonsense. If I have the personal skill to reverse egineer my friend’s x-box to make one myself for €10,- it doesn’t show that I’m a thief but that the business model and product of microsoft is outdated and obsolete; it can be copied with ease by anyone with a low amount of resources. As long as I don’t sell the x-box to other people for €50,- I’m doing nothing wrong. Business models should never have to be protected against technological advances, that’s what innovation and meeting your stakeholder requirements is for and that is something that your industry is clearly lacking.

#9 There is nothing strange about the Spanish courts criminal cases are seen in criminal courts, civil cases in civil courts. This is was presented as a criminal case and seen in a criminal court. Although he could have been found innocent of a criminal offence that does not stop him for being found guilty of a civil one (in a separate trial, in a separate court, in the future). That is why he settled out of court by agreeing to plea guilty. Everybody has the right to a fair trial however you obviously forfeit that right by pleading guilty to the charges.

All of this is the same in Spain or in the US. Remember what happened to O.J??

And get you fact straight Franco died in 1975 there has been no fascist government in Spain ever since.

admission of liability in this criminal case does not provtect him from civil action from other copyright owners like Sony Columbia or Warner Bros.

what a silly defendant and even stupider lawyers for the defendant.

Spain is a “civil law” system, meaning they have roots in the legal system of ancient Rome. this is to be distinguished from the other meaning of civil, namely “civil suit” vs. “criminal suit”. A civil law system obviously still has criminal suits.

what does it matter? his point still stands. how does being anonymous have anything to do with it? get off your high horse idiot

Sorta like hiding behind the name “Anonymous”, right?

If you’re going to make accusations then don’t hide. It just makes you look scared and your point weak.

Most of us with names and pseudonyms can be found all over the internet. Just do a search to find out more about us. We don’t hide.

intellectual property is as important as physical property and should be no less protected under the law.

“I was born to be a pirate. It all started with the very first bit of information shared with me, “mama”. I am a pirate of all information. We are all pirates of information and we can never be stopped.”

LOL

ridiculous analogy…

Actually, on second thoughts it may not be toooo late.

Think about it, while its too late for poor Kuve of course, the main idea was they would intimidate others like him, now that the story has broken the sheeple of course are intimidated, but the sheeple dont really run torrent/link sites in the first place, its the more tech savvy and people who are willing to stand up to “the man”.

Now that they know the back story, they know its a load of BS and can actually plan ahead: if the scumbags target me… I’ll do this, these are my options etc.

Sheeple are the leachers (hit and runners), the “only rapidshare please” and kazaa crowd (“bit torrent is just too darn complicated… and dont even get me started on that usenet thingy” :D ) so no real loss there.

I know if I was in Spain this wouldnt phase me one bit now that i know the whole story.

All that has been accomplished is they have slowed their demise a little bit, maybe 1km less per hour… not that it matters coz the train is going at about 100 miles per hour… champaign all around when it reaches its destination! :D

Cheers!

Problem is all this publicity about the legal rogering he’s received is a bit late now… The publicity needs to come beforehand so the defence fund can happen before decisions are made that will effect the rest of somebody’s life… In this case, he’s made his deal and plead guilty in return for avoiding the civil process.

It’s a bitch but it’s to late.

It started when my mother shared the first bit of information with me. It was the word “mama” which was then uttered back to her. Since then I could not get enough information in the form of sounds, site, touch and taste. I then spent the rest of my life absorbing and sharing as much information as possible.

Everyone on this plan shares and receives information through words, images, sounds, motion and ideas.

I was born to be a pirate. It all started with the very first bit of information shared with me, “mama”. I am a pirate of all information. We are all pirates of information and we can never be stopped.

#9 In Spain a copyright infringement is a criminal one if it is a for-profit infringement. If not, it is a civil one.

Of course there are both, civil and criminal courts. Copyright holders tried criminal courts, they did loss. Now are trying civil courts (they will loss too). It is the smell of desperation.

He won’t serve the prison term.

The point of the courts, theoretically, is to find out whether or not he did something illegal.

“I would have loved to defend my interests to the end and it is for this that I wish all the people in my situation who can afford to stay and fight for something that affects us all, the best of luck.”’

And there we have the very definition of David vs. Goliath. Stuff like this makes me want to take a number one on some of those executives and other corporate nonamers.

I think what you’re failing to understand here is that NATO and the EU are fascist organizations. NATO is just the strong arm enforcement team for the UN, and the same elite families who set-up and run the UN also set-up and run the EU. As well as the IMF, BIS, WHO, CFR, RIIA, Rand Corp, Club of Rome and a whole plethora of other GO’s and NGO’s that are right now being merged into one Global Fascist Government.

Atleast it got reported – In England the news likes to pretend P2P doesn’t exsist. In the newspapers and on Tv they don’t mention anything :(

All you have to do in a civil court is make it /look/ like they did it, where as in a criminal court you have to prove that they /actually/ did it.

Incriminate yourself or we’ll sue you!

We do. You would be surprised.

So, how can one get a prison term from a civil lawsuit? Or am I all mixed up?

If he actually serves the prison term, then Franco never left.

This is what we come to expect from a Government that was up until the late 90′s was still controlled by the fascist party, and yet is somehow in NATO and the EU.

User, I deal with these cases with David Bravo in Spain.

Music industry begun in Spain to prosecute these websites alleging criminal offenses. After plenty of resolutions that make clear these websites do not constitute a criminal offense, industry is beginning with civil actions.

Although it is cristal clear that there is no criminal offense, we still do not have any final resolutions in civil jurisdiction.

So, the point is the industry would claim in civil courts a huge amount of money if the webmaster did not declare himself guilty of a criminal offense.