Forced Exodus of BitTorrent Sites Is Imminent
Written by Ernesto on November 23, 2007The Dutch ISP LeaseWeb can’t take the pressure from BREIN anymore. As a preliminary measure they have now ordered dozens of BitTorrent sites - including some big-shots - to pack their stuff before December 1st, leave LeaseWeb and find a new home.
Last week we reported that LeaseWeb forced SumoTorrent to move to another ISP due to pressure from BREIN. In that article we published a list of other potential BRIEN targets hosted by LeaseWeb (we left out dozens of other sites) including mybittorrent.com, btmon.com, btjunkie.org, seedpeer.com, what.cd and waffles.fm.
Over the past few days several admins of the sites in this list confirmed to TorrentFreak that they indeed got a letter from LeaseWeb in which they were asked to move their websites before the end of the month. At this point it is not sure whether the dozens of other, mostly smaller private BitTorrent communities, received a similar letter. A questionable request since BitTorrent sites are not considered to be illegal according to Dutch law.
However, it seems that LeaseWeb has succumbed to BREIN’s pressure as it orders its clients to take all BitTorrent related material from their servers before December 1st. LeaseWeb takes this proactive measure to protect their clients they say, but it’s not needed since the court order that BREIN has applies ONLY to everlasting.nl and not to all other BitTorrent sites
One of the biggest mistakes they made in the process is to hand over the personal details of the SumoTorrent administrator. Somehow LeaseWeb was under the impression that they had to give this information to BREIN, thereby violating the privacy of one of their clients. This mistake also contradicts a statement LeaseWeb gave earlier this week to ISPam.nl, where they said that they are not allowed to give customer information to a third party without a funded request.
One of the big questions right now is where on earth all the BitTorrent sites will go now that LeaseWeb is a no-go. There are still some other options in The Netherlands and countries like Canada and Sweden, but they are slowly running out of alternatives.
LeaseWeb announced that it will appeal the decision in the everlasting.nl case, “LeaseWeb has filed an appeal and will keep fighting for its client’s privacy and right of freedom of expression up to the highest court.” We wish them well.
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There’s always freenet…
Hahaha. Mexico. I’ve had a Mexican ISP for 15 years. You’ll have the least reliable trackers ever. No mames.
To the commenter on TPB:
They can’t be removed, because they host their own servers, and have their own secure connection for internet service.
MUTE
at least for us elite mac users who use bs, it’s hosted in china!! :) bs forever
Comment to James and anyone who think the pirate bay is immune:
Only a year ago the police kicked down the door of PRQ and took their servers, the police investigation is ongoing and the American government is piling pressure on them.
I’ll wager they don’t see much of the new year. And good riddance, given the adverse attention theyve attracted
[quote comment="221324"]Mexico[/quote]
No good… way too easy for the US gov’t to take Mexico to the WTO under the terms of NAFTA. Russia (or Iran, ROFL) is about the only truly safe bet.
[quote comment="222225"][quote comment="221324"]Mexico[/quote]
No good… way too easy for the US gov’t to take Mexico to the WTO under the terms of NAFTA. Russia (or Iran, ROFL) is about the only truly safe bet.[/quote]
Reading all these posts about where the next great tracker movement might take up residence reminds me of roaches scurrying for dark corners when you turn on the lights.
word
All of these attacks are directed against trackers. Now trackers are technically legal (though they often assist in copyright infringement). All they really do is list available torrents. They don’t host them or anything. I mean, you can find lots of illegal stuff using google, but nobody sues google. They are just a search engine, right?
Why the double standard? Google is a prosperous corporation with great influence and enough money to fight lawsuits.
What if we figured out a way to hijack google for our ends? Hide links to torrents around various places on the net and use google to search for them - kind of like using google to search for rapidshare downloads.
Or has this been done before. I’m sorry, I’m kind of an idiot.
Maybe Bit Torrent dying will be a blessing in disguise. I mean, if we’re not all at home downloading/watching/listening to stuff at home on our PCs’, we’ll get out and socalise more. Thus beginning a whole new age of social interaction in a post 9/11 enviroment. Upon this Global awakening the realisation of a Christian heaven here on Earth is all the more attainable, and…AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Malaysia is still an under-publicised option.
If Brein has so much power every foundation can have so much force. They are a very little foundation here in Holland but with almost every thing they said the Dutch government agreed.
List the file names one place, put the file trackers another. That will make the job of the anti-pirate harder.
Use the search engines to find the files…
^^ oops! seems you messed up your link there somehow.
i’ll help!
http://tracker-invites.org
[quote comment="222454"]If Brein has so much power every foundation can have so much force. They are a very little foundation here in Holland but with almost every thing they said the Dutch government agreed.[/quote]
First of all, they are NOT small.
THey are backed by HUGE company’s like the MPAA.
Second, not all the politicians agreed.
what about venezuela -chavez would probably help personally….
While some “copyrighted” content is put on torrent trackers and other p2p networks, it is not the entirety… What this is really about is a corporate military industrial complex where the world is ran by one fascist entity and all freedom of press, religion, speech and information is crushed and we only see, hear, or say what the fascist entity wants or we disappear off the planet… These corporate fascists are dangerous and need to be fought using any means necessary…
[quote comment="221314"]Because let me tell you, not too many countries are allowing grey torrent sites to exist, and the organized music cartel is going after those few, one at a time. Denmark will fall. Canada will fall. Sweden will fall.
The industry will take over the world of bittorrent if we remain so centralized; we MUST evolve!!![/quote]We are evolving. That’s the stupid thing of it all; All they are doing is chasing the uploaders towards better techniques, and peers towards high grade anonimity. Internet speeds are rising, still, we’re awaiting VDSL2, Fiber To The Home, worldwide. Do they really think 9 Gigabytes will be safe *anywhere* when 100 Mbit/s upstream is a common standard? You must be insane to think that.
Plus, because CPU-speeds for the common man are rising too, realtime encryption is no biggy anymore.
One word: RandPeer (google it) ;-)
Or already actively in use: Stealthnet.
pr1m3 r00t: You’re beautiful.
Sorry, having a good night:)
But thank you for the info, I was really losing hope in the state of BT and , well, even p2p.
PS - awesome name (taking a relevent class now:)
I don’t know how many users of torrent tehnology are out there but what if we finance a base in international teritory, or even the Moon? I’d throw in a few hundreds…
[quote comment="223813"]I don’t know how many users of torrent tehnology are out there but what if we finance a base in international teritory, or even the Moon? I’d throw in a few hundreds…[/quote]We don’t need a base anymore. The base is the swarm and the medium itself. Thrown your hundreds at the developers of for example randpeer; http://securep2p.net/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page
I think that hosting torrents in countries like Russia, China, Cuba, etc. are terrible ideas. They should only be hosted in places where there is free speech, because the point of file-sharing is freedom, and the absence of freedom of speech obviously undermines that.
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