Bravo pour cette victoire épique!

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Blogs and websites like numerama, pcimpact, ecrans.fr and fr.readwriteweb.com have been batteling for months, giving the opposition all the necessary details and explanations for anti-Hadopi deputies to perfectly master their argument during the debate.

Yes we can!

The call for quorum is in fact used to avoid a case like that (when a majority party leader realise there is more opposition’s members than it’s own troops present to vote he has to call it to gain time to go rally some).
That’s why I wouldn’t be in the shoes of the UMP group leader right now (who was absent during the vote and therefore let this happen).

36 out of 577 voting is NOT democracy, it is disgraceful.

This might be why it could come up for a vote again.

Don’t hold your breath!

Then the text is talk about and modified (or not) in the National Assembly, then it goes to the Senate where is talk about and modified (or not) then it goes back to the National Assembly etc… until the Senate will vote the law without modifying it.

They usually agree on it at the first time because the text is worked before be put to vote in various “work comities” (wich is also why there is nearly nobody during the votes, most of the work is already done, the representatives are in the building but there working on other texts).

When it goes to the National Assembly for the second time (NA->S->NA) the government can call a “mix parity commission” with 7 deputies & 7 senators who have to work a common version of the law. This version only have to be voted by the National Assembly.
This is an exceptional procedure to be used in case the law is urgent matter (or to free schedule when the Parliament is overwhelmed).

The main difference between the National Assembly and the Senate is that the deputies are elected directly by the citizens (district based) when the senators are elected indirectly (by mayors, county’s representatives, etc…). The Senate is therefore supposed to be less “passionate” since it avoid pressure of a pending re-election, acting like a “council of the elders” (since you have to be very well connected to be elected, the average senate member is quite old).

Pirates and ninjas united can’t be stopped.

France are still the surrender monkeys of Europe

The law got first approved by the Sénat, then approved by the Assemblée Nationale (but in a modified form). Since the 2 assemblies did not agree on the same exact text, the final version of the text was made by the Commission Mixte Paritaire (made of people chosen by the government).

This final version of the law must then be approved by the Sénat and the Assemblée Nationale. The Sénat approved it earlier in the morning, but the Assemblée Nationale rejected it.

Usually, the majority has twice more hidden voters than the opposition. But this time it seems that the representatives from the majority were afraid to lose the support of their electors.

Anyway, you can bet that Sarkozy will do everything in his power to pass this text, even if he has to use dirty tricks.

Very few people in France know the reality of this law, because Sarkozy controls all the media. When the first version of the text was voted by 16 representatives in the middle of the night, the TVs showed an assembly filled with hundreds of representatives praising the government.
And this is how it works for every law passed in France.

No, it won’t. That’s why they’ve been trying to pass HADOPI in the middle of the night, so to speak.

If they hadn’t resorted to dirty tricks, it wouldn’t have even made it past the Senate.

I said HADOPI wouldn’t last through April, but I didn’t expect it to get struck downthis quickly. Sarkozy must be sweating like a pig right about now.

It isn’t going to pass on the 27th, by the way. So there’s no sense worrying that HADOPI will ever materialize, because it seriously doesn’t have a prayer.

“France’s Minister of Culture Christine Albanel was shocked by the rejection and said it was a “trap” set up by the Socialist opposition.”

A trap?

The reason only 36 National Assembly members were present for the vote is because
Sarkozy and Albanel have been trying to pass HADOPI while Parliament, the Senate, and the National Assembly had their backs turned. Yes, it was a trap – but luckily the Socialist party got there in time to dismantled it.

Yes, this is France, but sleazy politicians are universal.

Epic Fail: IFPI, Sarkozy, the Big 4, MAFIAA, anti-piracy trolls/tards/shills.

Assuming of course that when it does come back up again later this year as one comment has said, opposition is as strong as it is now.

You make it sound funny, I lol’d. We need more Ninjas in the French political scene.
Those politicians are like NINJAS man…

Politicians should be more concerned with passing laws that would protect people FIRST, and then worry about passing laws that protect people’s money (ie: MPAA) later when everything else is functioning correctly.

They lose track of the issues that matter and get all wound up about this kind of nonsense.

viva la révolution

Good about bloody time let all those who believe in imaginary property feel the boot up there arse. for now is the time for them pay,there lies will be seen and law breaking will be punished.

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Now theres a first :)!

A law that states that you can only try to push through your unpopular legislation 3 times and then your out of government.