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		<title>By: France Tracks Down 18 Million File-Sharers &#124; DigitFreak</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 10:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: France Tracks Down 18 Million File-Sharers &#124; Torrents &#38; File Sharing News</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t hate me because I am beautiful.]]></description>
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		<title>By: France tracks 18 million file sharers</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Torrent Freak)  Sameer ManasHi, I am Sameer Manas. I am B.tech graduate and a computer junkie interested in [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Momo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Herpaderp&lt;/blockquote&gt;
lol]]></description>
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<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: Momo</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[hur durr
Indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hur durr<br />
Indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Momo</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[hur durr
Indeed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hur durr<br />
Indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Momo</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Derp&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Derp</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Scary Devil Monastery</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Ven

&lt;i&gt;&quot;and I think the future I mentioned above is a potential reality.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Not unless you radically alter the entire infrastructure of the internet from the ground up - in a way which assumes that &quot;wild leap in DRM technology&quot; you refer to has taken place without any corresponding development for the other side.

A 30-second google search can indeed put most of the copyrighted material you like at your fingertips - but so can any search made by a bittorrent client using DHT or PEX these days. &lt;b&gt;Any&lt;/b&gt; file transfer protocol can accomodate indexing and we already see working prototypes of clients capable of hiding and anonymizing both transfers and requests.

No, I think I stand by my conclusion - in order to even put a stopper on filesharing the internet needs to be abolished first. As long as anyone can write a protocol allowing for encrypted intra-user proxying there is no possibility to stop a darknet.

Unlike a determined protocol you can in most cases not even throttle an encrypted connection as there is no recognizeable protocol to tag it as at the relevant layer.

Here are the absolute minimum requirements for stopping filesharing - every accessible site needs to be on a distributed whitelist. No other connections to be allowed. And every computer needs to be sold with every administrative user privilege abolished from the hardware side. I can&#039;t see that happening and even if the attempt was made (and it has, see &quot;trusted computing&quot; and &quot;green dam&quot;) it can only succeed if literally everyone accepts it.

In that respect copyright is much like communism. You need absolute control over dissidents and their ability to distribute information in order to uphold it, at a fairly terrible cost to society. I don&#039;t see that happening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ven</p>
<p><i>&#8220;and I think the future I mentioned above is a potential reality.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Not unless you radically alter the entire infrastructure of the internet from the ground up &#8211; in a way which assumes that &#8220;wild leap in DRM technology&#8221; you refer to has taken place without any corresponding development for the other side.</p>
<p>A 30-second google search can indeed put most of the copyrighted material you like at your fingertips &#8211; but so can any search made by a bittorrent client using DHT or PEX these days. <b>Any</b> file transfer protocol can accomodate indexing and we already see working prototypes of clients capable of hiding and anonymizing both transfers and requests.</p>
<p>No, I think I stand by my conclusion &#8211; in order to even put a stopper on filesharing the internet needs to be abolished first. As long as anyone can write a protocol allowing for encrypted intra-user proxying there is no possibility to stop a darknet.</p>
<p>Unlike a determined protocol you can in most cases not even throttle an encrypted connection as there is no recognizeable protocol to tag it as at the relevant layer.</p>
<p>Here are the absolute minimum requirements for stopping filesharing &#8211; every accessible site needs to be on a distributed whitelist. No other connections to be allowed. And every computer needs to be sold with every administrative user privilege abolished from the hardware side. I can&#8217;t see that happening and even if the attempt was made (and it has, see &#8220;trusted computing&#8221; and &#8220;green dam&#8221;) it can only succeed if literally everyone accepts it.</p>
<p>In that respect copyright is much like communism. You need absolute control over dissidents and their ability to distribute information in order to uphold it, at a fairly terrible cost to society. I don&#8217;t see that happening.</p>
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