Comments on: Day 3 – The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/ Torrent News, Torrent Sites and the latest Scoops Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:02:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.3 hourly 1 By: The Pirate Bay Trial Coverage - dBlogIt | Dustin Boston http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-537893 The Pirate Bay Trial Coverage - dBlogIt | Dustin Boston Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:06:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-537893 [...] Day 3 - The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense [...] [...] Day 3 – The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense [...]

]]> By: ingen http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-537107 ingen Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:03:33 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-537107 "Interestingly i was reading the other day that bands dont give a sh1t about piracy as they make all their money from concerts. So the more downloads, the more people go to their gigs. THey make more money and their greeedy labels get bypassed.The only c*nts that are losing money are the money grabbing record labels who have been robbing artists for years." Ive heard this a before aswell. What they need, is a big name in the music industry to step in and say this on record. Someone iconic! Just make sure its not MJ. “Interestingly i was reading the other day that bands dont give a sh1t about piracy as they make all their money from concerts. So the more downloads, the more people go to their gigs. THey make more money and their greeedy labels get bypassed.The only c*nts that are losing money are the money grabbing record labels who have been robbing artists for years.”

Ive heard this a before aswell. What they need, is a big name in the music industry to step in and say this on record. Someone iconic! Just make sure its not MJ.

]]> By: Caffeine High » Blog Archive » News http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-535687 Caffeine High » Blog Archive » News Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:08:09 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-535687 [...] Pirate Bay Trial Day 3 - The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense [...] [...] Pirate Bay Trial Day 3 – The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense [...]

]]> By: Could Brands take on The Pirate Bay? « Trendplanner http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-535352 Could Brands take on The Pirate Bay? « Trendplanner Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:33:08 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-535352 [...] owners of a site called the Pirate bay, which helps people to make use of BitTorrent technology are being taken to court by the media companies which own the original content. It appears these media companies think this [...] [...] owners of a site called the Pirate bay, which helps people to make use of BitTorrent technology are being taken to court by the media companies which own the original content. It appears these media companies think this [...]

]]> By: Mitsubishi Motors signs MoU with Hong Kong Surroundings Writing-desk concerning testing of i MiEV charged conveyance | Autosnewspaper.com http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-535350 Mitsubishi Motors signs MoU with Hong Kong Surroundings Writing-desk concerning testing of i MiEV charged conveyance | Autosnewspaper.com Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:29:39 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-535350 [...] Day 3 - The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense | TorrentFreak [...] [...] Day 3 – The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense | TorrentFreak [...]

]]> By: Retssagen mod the Pirate Bay | Jesper Jarlskov http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-534722 Retssagen mod the Pirate Bay | Jesper Jarlskov Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:25:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-534722 [...] Opsummering af tredjedagen [...] [...] Opsummering af tredjedagen [...]

]]> By: Bloggando.org » Blog Archive » Pirate Bay: terzo giorno, arriva l’utente KingKong dalla Cambogia http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-534570 Bloggando.org » Blog Archive » Pirate Bay: terzo giorno, arriva l’utente KingKong dalla Cambogia Tue, 24 Feb 2009 10:59:42 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-534570 [...] processo comincia con il procuratore Håkan Roswall che presenta la nuova nota delle spese per il procedimento [...] [...] processo comincia con il procuratore Håkan Roswall che presenta la nuova nota delle spese per il procedimento [...]

]]> By: Überraschende Wende im Prozess gegen “The Pirate Bay” | Asynchron http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-534338 Überraschende Wende im Prozess gegen “The Pirate Bay” | Asynchron Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:14:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-534338 [...] Day 3 - The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense [...] [...] Day 3 – The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense [...]

]]> By: Pirate Bay Support-Site: This is what a Criminal looks like… (UPDATE) « World Blog http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-534275 Pirate Bay Support-Site: This is what a Criminal looks like… (UPDATE) « World Blog Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:00:00 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-534275 [...] Man beachte auch Herrn Schäuble (nicht reingephotoshopt! Echt jetz!) und King Kong, passend zur King Kong-Defence der Pirate Bay-Verteidigung. File-sharing is good, allowing people to share music, movies and [...] [...] Man beachte auch Herrn Schäuble (nicht reingephotoshopt! Echt jetz!) und King Kong, passend zur King Kong-Defence der Pirate Bay-Verteidigung. File-sharing is good, allowing people to share music, movies and [...]

]]> By: Week-In-Review – Week 8, 2009 | Sbytes http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533941 Week-In-Review – Week 8, 2009 | Sbytes Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:23:26 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533941 [...] Day 3 - The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense [...] [...] Day 3 – The Pirate Bay’s ‘King Kong’ Defense [...]

]]> By: speeling http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533933 speeling Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:57:35 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533933 'cheque' not 'check' :-/ ‘cheque’ not ‘check’ :-/

]]> By: Book Bookington http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533906 Book Bookington Sun, 22 Feb 2009 03:16:37 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533906 Whence cometh data? Whence cometh data?

]]> By: The Best Pirate Bay Wallpaper! King Kong :P | The Blog Pirate http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533876 The Best Pirate Bay Wallpaper! King Kong :P | The Blog Pirate Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:50:36 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533876 [...] “EU directive 2000/31/EG says that he who provides an information service is not responsible for the information that is being transferred. In order to be responsible, the service provider must initiate the transfer. But the admins of The Pirate Bay don’t initiate transfers. It’s the users that do and they are physically identifiable people. They call themselves names like King Kong. According to legal procedure, the accusations must be against an individual and there must be a close tie between the perpetrators of a crime and those who are assisting. This tie has not been shown. The prosecutor must show that Carl Lundström personally has interacted with the user King Kong, who may very well be found in the jungles of Cambodia.” - from TorrentFreak [...] [...] “EU directive 2000/31/EG says that he who provides an information service is not responsible for the information that is being transferred. In order to be responsible, the service provider must initiate the transfer. But the admins of The Pirate Bay don’t initiate transfers. It’s the users that do and they are physically identifiable people. They call themselves names like King Kong. According to legal procedure, the accusations must be against an individual and there must be a close tie between the perpetrators of a crime and those who are assisting. This tie has not been shown. The prosecutor must show that Carl Lundström personally has interacted with the user King Kong, who may very well be found in the jungles of Cambodia.” – from TorrentFreak [...]

]]> By: FriBit » Positivt og problematisk forslag fra Solhjell http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533793 FriBit » Positivt og problematisk forslag fra Solhjell Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:13:23 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533793 [...] slik løsning er at vi har veldig liten innsikt i hvem det er som laster opp musikken. Som vi nylig hørte i rettssaken i Sverige har de fleste brukere på The Pirate Bay brukernavn som “KingKong”, uten videre [...] [...] slik løsning er at vi har veldig liten innsikt i hvem det er som laster opp musikken. Som vi nylig hørte i rettssaken i Sverige har de fleste brukere på The Pirate Bay brukernavn som “KingKong”, uten videre [...]

]]> By: ?The Pirate Bay? autoriai ragina nustoti trikdyti j? kaltintoj? svetaini? darb? - CyberLords.lt http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533667 ?The Pirate Bay? autoriai ragina nustoti trikdyti j? kaltintoj? svetaini? darb? - CyberLords.lt Sat, 21 Feb 2009 07:08:43 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533667 [...] pakeitimu?, jau buvo prabilta apie visi?k? kaltinim? atmetim?. Kaip ra?oma ?TorrentFreak? ?TorrentFreak? tinklara?tyje, ?The Pirate Bay? advokatas Peras E. Samuelsonas teig?, kad kaltintojams taip ir nepavyko [...] [...] pakeitimu?, jau buvo prabilta apie visi?k? kaltinim? atmetim?. Kaip ra?oma ?TorrentFreak? ?TorrentFreak? tinklara?tyje, ?The Pirate Bay? advokatas Peras E. Samuelsonas teig?, kad kaltintojams taip ir nepavyko [...]

]]> By: Bile http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533608 Bile Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:22:27 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533608 Hope those poor kids soon get out of this. Hope those poor kids soon get out of this.

]]> By: They will lose http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533558 They will lose Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:39:22 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533558 Did they really know who they were messing with? They wern't messing with some backyard pirating organisation, with the pirates copying films and selling them. They took on a website which has been running for years, legally, under the knowlage that there was nothing that anyone could do about it. This is like trying to sue a piece of paper for what was written on it. The prosicution will lose, just bringing more attention to the pirates and torrents themselves. They took on a handful of people to make a statement to the wider world and this has backfired on them, because they had no idea what they were doing. Next time, try something slightly easier, like suing the millions of people using torrents. but we know they won't do that either. Did they really know who they were messing with? They wern’t messing with some backyard pirating organisation, with the pirates copying films and selling them. They took on a website which has been running for years, legally, under the knowlage that there was nothing that anyone could do about it.

This is like trying to sue a piece of paper for what was written on it. The prosicution will lose, just bringing more attention to the pirates and torrents themselves. They took on a handful of people to make a statement to the wider world and this has backfired on them, because they had no idea what they were doing.

Next time, try something slightly easier, like suing the millions of people using torrents. but we know they won’t do that either.

]]> By: GLARFACE http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533351 GLARFACE Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:20:14 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533351 THE PROSECUTION HAS PUT FORWARD AN AMENDED CHARGE. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THE NEW CHARGE WOULD HAVE BEEN DEEMED SERIOUS ENOUGH TO WARRANT A COURT TRIAL UNDER SWEDISH LAW, OR, WAS IT A CASE OF THE PROSECUTION HAVING TO RAMP\SEXYFY UP THE ORIGINAL CHARGES TO CIRCUMVENT THE EXISTENT SWEDISH COPYRIGHT AND INTERLECTUAL PROPERTY LAWS? KNOWING THAT THE NEW CHARGES WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED SERIOUS ENOUGH TO INITIATE A COURT ACTION. BASICALLY THE INITIAL CHARGE WAS CRIMINAL: THE THEFT BY PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT, CONCERNING, AND IN CONTRAVENTION OF SWEDISH COPYRIGHT AND INTERLECTUAL PROPERTY LAW, AND PROFFITEERING FROM THESE ACTIONS. THE AMENDED CHARGES: THE ENABLING OF THEFT BY NON-PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT, NOT CONCERNING, AND IN NO WAY TO BE CONSIDERED AS IN CONTRAVENTION OF SWEDISH COPYRIGHT AND PROPERTY LAW,(A COMPARISON WOULD BE TO CHARGE GOOGLE WITH ASSISTING A BURGLAR BECAUSE THE BURGLAR CONSULTED THE RELEVANT GOOGLE MAP BEFORE SETTING OUT TO COMMIT THE CRIME, AND THEREBY INDIRECTLY PROFFITEERING FROM THESE CRIMINAL ACTIONS BECAUSE THEY HAD PLACED ADVERTISEMENTS ON TNE WEB PAGE USED. P.S. FOR THOSE YOUTUBE PATRONS WHO ARE TO NOW FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE PHOTO'S ETC FROM YOUR RESPECTIVE WEB PAGE, HA HA HA HA HA LANGLEY\QUANTICO HAS IT ALL AND THEY THANK YOU FOR THE FREELY SUBMITTED PERSONAL INFORMATION. BUT BE NOT CONCERNED BY THIS AS THE U.S. HAS A SOLID REPUTATION FOR ENSURING ACTION ONLY AGAINST THOSE IT CAN INCONTRAVERTABLY (BY USE OF AGREEABLE DOCTORATE THESIS, UNSUPPORTED AND MIS-REPRESENTED EVIDENCE ETC') PROVE BY PRE-JUDGEMENT AS GUILTY OF ANY CRIME THEY OR THEIR CORPORATE SPONSORS CAN IMAGINE. BUT THAT'S ONLY AN OPINION HELD BY SOME AND MAY BE BEING RECTIFIED BY THE NEW ADMINISTRATION. BUT I WOULDN'T HOLD BREATH WHILST WAITING, QUI TAM FOREVER THE PROSECUTION HAS PUT FORWARD AN AMENDED CHARGE. I’M JUST WONDERING IF THE NEW CHARGE WOULD HAVE BEEN DEEMED SERIOUS ENOUGH TO WARRANT A COURT TRIAL UNDER SWEDISH LAW, OR, WAS IT A CASE OF THE PROSECUTION HAVING TO RAMP\SEXYFY UP THE ORIGINAL CHARGES TO CIRCUMVENT THE EXISTENT SWEDISH COPYRIGHT AND INTERLECTUAL PROPERTY LAWS? KNOWING THAT THE NEW CHARGES WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED SERIOUS ENOUGH TO INITIATE A COURT ACTION. BASICALLY THE INITIAL CHARGE WAS CRIMINAL: THE THEFT BY PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT, CONCERNING, AND IN CONTRAVENTION OF SWEDISH COPYRIGHT AND INTERLECTUAL PROPERTY LAW, AND PROFFITEERING FROM THESE ACTIONS. THE AMENDED CHARGES: THE ENABLING OF THEFT BY NON-PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT, NOT CONCERNING, AND IN NO WAY TO BE CONSIDERED AS IN CONTRAVENTION OF SWEDISH COPYRIGHT AND PROPERTY LAW,(A COMPARISON WOULD BE TO CHARGE GOOGLE WITH ASSISTING A BURGLAR BECAUSE THE BURGLAR CONSULTED THE RELEVANT GOOGLE MAP BEFORE SETTING OUT TO COMMIT THE CRIME, AND THEREBY INDIRECTLY PROFFITEERING FROM THESE CRIMINAL ACTIONS BECAUSE THEY HAD PLACED ADVERTISEMENTS ON TNE WEB PAGE USED.
P.S. FOR THOSE YOUTUBE PATRONS WHO ARE TO NOW FIND IT IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE PHOTO’S ETC FROM YOUR RESPECTIVE WEB PAGE, HA HA HA HA HA LANGLEY\QUANTICO HAS IT ALL AND THEY THANK YOU FOR THE FREELY SUBMITTED PERSONAL INFORMATION. BUT BE NOT CONCERNED BY THIS AS THE U.S.
HAS A SOLID REPUTATION FOR ENSURING ACTION ONLY AGAINST THOSE IT CAN INCONTRAVERTABLY (BY USE OF AGREEABLE DOCTORATE THESIS, UNSUPPORTED AND MIS-REPRESENTED EVIDENCE ETC’) PROVE BY PRE-JUDGEMENT AS GUILTY OF ANY CRIME THEY OR THEIR CORPORATE SPONSORS CAN IMAGINE. BUT THAT’S ONLY AN OPINION HELD BY SOME AND MAY BE BEING RECTIFIED BY THE NEW ADMINISTRATION. BUT I WOULDN’T HOLD BREATH WHILST WAITING,
QUI TAM FOREVER

]]> By: Kuca Moraes http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533298 Kuca Moraes Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:35:11 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533298 <strong>A Revolução Pirata Contra a Inquisição Contemporânea...</strong> Na idade média, a ICAR detinha o controle sobre o conhecimento e aqueles que tentavam transmití-lo contra os seus interesses, ou que de qualquer forma poderiam ameaçar sua supremacia, acabavam assando em alguma fogueira santa. Atualmente, os exercem... A Revolução Pirata Contra a Inquisição Contemporânea…

Na idade média, a ICAR detinha o controle sobre o conhecimento e aqueles que tentavam transmití-lo contra os seus interesses, ou que de qualquer forma poderiam ameaçar sua supremacia, acabavam assando em alguma fogueira santa.
Atualmente, os exercem…

]]> By: bajungadustin http://torrentfreak.com/g-defense-090218/#comment-533234 bajungadustin Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:47:05 +0000 http://torrentfreak.com/?p=9981#comment-533234 ************* If someone orders child porn from somewhere and it is delivered through the mail... do you take the postal service to court for transporting it? or in this case "making availiable" the pirate bay is basicaly the postal service but not even to the same extent. they dont even deliver it... the post office should be held liable for what they send from door to door more so then the pirate bay should. you never go after the middle man but in this case you cant very well take 22 million people to court. its just unrealistic. so they are just going to have to adapt... like they did with tapes and VCR's... get used to it you cant stop it... Viva La Pirate Bay *************

If someone orders child porn from somewhere and it is delivered through the mail… do you take the postal service to court for transporting it? or in this case “making availiable” the pirate bay is basicaly the postal service but not even to the same extent. they dont even deliver it… the post office should be held liable for what they send from door to door more so then the pirate bay should.

you never go after the middle man but in this case you cant very well take 22 million people to court. its just unrealistic. so they are just going to have to adapt… like they did with tapes and VCR’s… get used to it you cant stop it…
Viva La Pirate Bay

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