Ive heard this a before aswell. What they need, is a big name in the music industry to step in and say this on record. Someone iconic! Just make sure its not MJ.

This is like trying to sue a piece of paper for what was written on it. The prosicution will lose, just bringing more attention to the pirates and torrents themselves. They took on a handful of people to make a statement to the wider world and this has backfired on them, because they had no idea what they were doing.

Next time, try something slightly easier, like suing the millions of people using torrents. but we know they won’t do that either.

Na idade média, a ICAR detinha o controle sobre o conhecimento e aqueles que tentavam transmití-lo contra os seus interesses, ou que de qualquer forma poderiam ameaçar sua supremacia, acabavam assando em alguma fogueira santa.
Atualmente, os exercem…

If someone orders child porn from somewhere and it is delivered through the mail… do you take the postal service to court for transporting it? or in this case “making availiable” the pirate bay is basicaly the postal service but not even to the same extent. they dont even deliver it… the post office should be held liable for what they send from door to door more so then the pirate bay should.

you never go after the middle man but in this case you cant very well take 22 million people to court. its just unrealistic. so they are just going to have to adapt… like they did with tapes and VCR’s… get used to it you cant stop it…
Viva La Pirate Bay

LMAO. Now whose fault is that?

Interestingly i was reading the other day that bands dont give a sh1t about piracy as they make all their money from concerts. So the more downloads, the more people go to their gigs. THey make more money and their greeedy labels get bypassed.The only c*nts that are losing money are the money grabbing record labels who have been robbing artists for years.

Good luck with the trial boys!

You clearly don’t understand how bands make money. 99% of bands make their money from TOURING and from merch sales, not from album sales. Album sales revenue is a small drop in the bucket for most professional acts. The record industry happily pockets that money.

This is common knowledge among the music community. I’m guessing you are not a musician.

I can’t help but think what Bill Hicks would have to say about this and countless other f$#ked up sh!t going on in the world today.

For those interested, user ‘godcanjudgeme’ has been kind enough to ‘make available’ (?!) some of Bill’s finest material:

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4675814/Bill_Hicks_-_3_Shows__1_Doc__amp__more_-_AVI_-_Godcanjudgeme

and what would life be without TPB?

actually there’s always tvfreeload and google ($whatiamlookingfor.’rapidshare’) (that’s php syntax), I’ve managed to get things that weren’t on torrents that way.

(millions of happy people, that is =D )

Plus, even if there is a loss of money to these companies… It just means some celebrity will have to buy a million dollar car instead of a 2 million dollar car… As SAD as I feel for them, I think they’ll survive.

1) Not stopping a crime is not assisting the crime. If someone is using their free service to commit a crime and they don’t stop it, they’ve done nothing wrong – they just haven’t done the “moral” thing. Saying they took criminal part in it would be like saying a cashier is guilty of being an accomplice to theft if they see someone in their workplace being robbed, but don’t stop the person. The company provided the place for it to happen, the cashier keeps it running, but the robbery would be no fault of the cashier’s.

2) Yes, they are saying it’s the users who are committing illegal acts – that’s because they are. TPB doesn’t host the copyrighted material, and they don’t initiate any transfers of it. All of that is done by users, and users are the ones guilty of these so called crimes.

3) “Good bands need the income to survive.” There are two kinds of bands out there: Those who are big (in terms of living well of the proceeds), and those who haven’t made it yet because they aren’t known. Those who are big already don’t need the income they’re supposedly losing, and those who are trying to get their names out there are only benefiting from the ultimate in free advertising. Music lovers talk about the music they like, they don’t just download stuff to huddle in a corner and listen to… They discuss their interests with other music lovers to find more to listen to! A lot of musicians have embraced this, and are doing well for themselves. One example is Jonathan Coulton… He has a donation link specifically for people who already downloaded his music elsewhere :) (He’s a really nice guy about it, too.)

4) “If it’s crap, you wouldn’t be downloading it!” Just because it’s not worth $15 for someone to go to a movie showing doesn’t mean it’s crap. If theaters charged $5 for tickets, they’d see an INCREDIBLE increase in sales. It’s just a matter of how much it’s worth to a person, and most of the crap ( ;) ) put out by the entertainment industry these days isn’t worth nearly as much as they’re trying to charge for it. The world’s got money issues right now, America especially – demand is going down, and the quality of the “supply” is, too. While you would think that piracy would be decimating the entertainment industry, that’s just not true. I forget the source on this, but a couple years ago when there was another major p2p news series (I think it was when they started suing 13 year olds for millions of dollars), the plaintiffs were actually reporting record profits and could cite no factual point where they had lost revenue because of filesharing, and that all losses were implied – which is still true.

There are two more things I’d like to say.

The first is that if the service provided by TPB is guilty of facilitating crime, then the industry itself is, as well. They put out media that can be copied and have the protection removed from it! If they didn’t do this, there would be no illegal copies of said media. By putting it out there, they’re just encouraging it to be pirated!

The second is simply this: There’s been a lot of referring to these greedy bastards as America. America hates these greedy bastards as well, and is very much looking forward to their downfall.

Viva TPB!