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	<title>Comments on: Google Heckled at MIDEM Over YouTube Ripping &amp; Piracy</title>
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		<title>By: EpiK</title>
		<link>/google-heckled-at-midem-over-youtube-ripping-piracy-140203/#comment-1187728</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EpiK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do these retards really think they can do something about these ripping sites? Morons..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these retards really think they can do something about these ripping sites? Morons..</p>
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		<title>By: chichachachi</title>
		<link>/google-heckled-at-midem-over-youtube-ripping-piracy-140203/#comment-1186904</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 23:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes I used to do this, too. But it&#039;s a different age now. Another thing - I actually think the organizational nightmare that would come from building a music collection would deter most people from using youtube. 

Who actually has a collection of music that they created from youtube? The number has got to be tiny. I haven&#039;t heard of one person. Sometimes I will go on a soundcloud downloading spree when looking for audio textures to layer for video creation, but in that case I dump everything in one folder, use them for the project, and never return to that mess of a folder after it&#039;s finished.

Are you seriously worried about a few kids downloading a few songs from youtube to listen to? Dood. It&#039;s just as easy to GO TO YOUTUBE and listen to the song. These fears are simply political.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I used to do this, too. But it&#8217;s a different age now. Another thing &#8211; I actually think the organizational nightmare that would come from building a music collection would deter most people from using youtube. </p>
<p>Who actually has a collection of music that they created from youtube? The number has got to be tiny. I haven&#8217;t heard of one person. Sometimes I will go on a soundcloud downloading spree when looking for audio textures to layer for video creation, but in that case I dump everything in one folder, use them for the project, and never return to that mess of a folder after it&#8217;s finished.</p>
<p>Are you seriously worried about a few kids downloading a few songs from youtube to listen to? Dood. It&#8217;s just as easy to GO TO YOUTUBE and listen to the song. These fears are simply political.</p>
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		<title>By: youyou</title>
		<link>/google-heckled-at-midem-over-youtube-ripping-piracy-140203/#comment-1186736</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 04:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah. soundcloud.  bad example, prime example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah. soundcloud.  bad example, prime example.</p>
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		<title>By: meyou</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 03:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, its in US constitution.  it&#039;s not googles problem, but by pushing the envelope.  dont know the reference, but fukn still.  dude music getting downloads is offensive.  freedom of expression.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, its in US constitution.  it&#8217;s not googles problem, but by pushing the envelope.  dont know the reference, but fukn still.  dude music getting downloads is offensive.  freedom of expression.</p>
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		<title>By: teenygozer</title>
		<link>/google-heckled-at-midem-over-youtube-ripping-piracy-140203/#comment-1186529</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When we were kids, we used to tape music from the radio using our parents&#039; tape recorder (complete with DJ yammering at the beginning and end), or borrow our older siblings&#039; LPs and make scratchy little mix tapes for one another.  Frankly, a youtube audio rip is a higher quality than the noise we used to listen to!  Of course, when we loved an artist, we used to save up and buy their LPs, and when we got older, we went to concerts.  For disposable music, I assume dling from youtube is perfectly fine and quite enjoyable for today&#039;s kids.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we were kids, we used to tape music from the radio using our parents&#8217; tape recorder (complete with DJ yammering at the beginning and end), or borrow our older siblings&#8217; LPs and make scratchy little mix tapes for one another.  Frankly, a youtube audio rip is a higher quality than the noise we used to listen to!  Of course, when we loved an artist, we used to save up and buy their LPs, and when we got older, we went to concerts.  For disposable music, I assume dling from youtube is perfectly fine and quite enjoyable for today&#8217;s kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Timonsinger</title>
		<link>/google-heckled-at-midem-over-youtube-ripping-piracy-140203/#comment-1186154</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 11:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d gladly use something like iTunes, especially with the no-DRM route it&#039;s taken. Problem is the variety they have on it.

The music is in a lossy AAC format for the price of a CD. I don&#039;t have the choice of getting either the original CD rip, a 1969 vinyl rip, a 2004 Japan SACD, or whatever. I have one option: a crappy remastered version. For around $10. I might as well buy my music used off of eBay, where my money wouldn&#039;t even go to them so I might as well just pirate to begin with. 

When it comes to movies and TV shows, that&#039;s a different story. I&#039;m fine with purchasing movies off iTunes or whatever service.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d gladly use something like iTunes, especially with the no-DRM route it&#8217;s taken. Problem is the variety they have on it.</p>
<p>The music is in a lossy AAC format for the price of a CD. I don&#8217;t have the choice of getting either the original CD rip, a 1969 vinyl rip, a 2004 Japan SACD, or whatever. I have one option: a crappy remastered version. For around $10. I might as well buy my music used off of eBay, where my money wouldn&#8217;t even go to them so I might as well just pirate to begin with. </p>
<p>When it comes to movies and TV shows, that&#8217;s a different story. I&#8217;m fine with purchasing movies off iTunes or whatever service.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary_Devil_Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 09:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Quantum computing might do it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;


Not really, no.


Changing the fundamental laws by which the universe operates might do it. Not much else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Quantum computing might do it.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Not really, no.</p>
<p>Changing the fundamental laws by which the universe operates might do it. Not much else.</p>
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		<title>By: Scary_Devil_Monastery</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scary_Devil_Monastery]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 09:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another area in which the copyright cult adherents keep failing epically - keeping track of what they posted and under what nick.

Nejtillpirater used to be the past master of that sad clown act but bobfail/F**ta does come VERY close.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another area in which the copyright cult adherents keep failing epically &#8211; keeping track of what they posted and under what nick.</p>
<p>Nejtillpirater used to be the past master of that sad clown act but bobfail/F**ta does come VERY close.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian Wolff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sebastian Wolff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 07:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poor Tom. Yep, YouTube is continually in hot water with publishers and rights holders around the world.

It&#039;s a two way street though -- tech companies push the boundaries of content usage legalities, primarily since the music industry is set in its ways. The industry of the music business rarely see a need to innovate, as the old model has worked great in the past, so why would anyone ever change it, and want to infringe on all of our rights, and want to kill the music industry, etc. For a list of things that have killed the entire 10-billion-dollar music industry, see also: vinyl, cassettes, CDs, radio, Spotify, Pandora, ...

It honestly comes down to how the concept of copyright is perceived and implemented, given that the current state of copyright is still based on the revolutionary printing press.

Just before MIDEM, YouTube fixed the audio-ripping capability offered by third party sites by de-synchronizing the video from the audio. (Cue whole discussion over whether that makes synchronization rights and licenses still applicable).

People who actively **want** to rip and steal music and videos will always find a way to do so, regardless of potential legal repercussions, regardless of ethics, regardless of angry people at MIDEM angrily denouncing pirate platforms run by evil corporations who hide behind DMCA safe harbors. It&#039;s a service and delivery problem: if you make it easier for people to legally obtain or license content, and support composers, artists, creators, etc.; more people will be disinclined to pirate content.

That assumption is based on the idea that music companies and tech companies will one day collide in a positive manner; not in a scenario rivaling the cold war; in a location that is outside the courtroom.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Tom. Yep, YouTube is continually in hot water with publishers and rights holders around the world.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a two way street though &#8212; tech companies push the boundaries of content usage legalities, primarily since the music industry is set in its ways. The industry of the music business rarely see a need to innovate, as the old model has worked great in the past, so why would anyone ever change it, and want to infringe on all of our rights, and want to kill the music industry, etc. For a list of things that have killed the entire 10-billion-dollar music industry, see also: vinyl, cassettes, CDs, radio, Spotify, Pandora, &#8230;</p>
<p>It honestly comes down to how the concept of copyright is perceived and implemented, given that the current state of copyright is still based on the revolutionary printing press.</p>
<p>Just before MIDEM, YouTube fixed the audio-ripping capability offered by third party sites by de-synchronizing the video from the audio. (Cue whole discussion over whether that makes synchronization rights and licenses still applicable).</p>
<p>People who actively **want** to rip and steal music and videos will always find a way to do so, regardless of potential legal repercussions, regardless of ethics, regardless of angry people at MIDEM angrily denouncing pirate platforms run by evil corporations who hide behind DMCA safe harbors. It&#8217;s a service and delivery problem: if you make it easier for people to legally obtain or license content, and support composers, artists, creators, etc.; more people will be disinclined to pirate content.</p>
<p>That assumption is based on the idea that music companies and tech companies will one day collide in a positive manner; not in a scenario rivaling the cold war; in a location that is outside the courtroom.</p>
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		<title>By: Hogspace</title>
		<link>/google-heckled-at-midem-over-youtube-ripping-piracy-140203/#comment-1186021</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hogspace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 17:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TPB already help artists bring their music directly to the public. It&#039;s the future. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TPB already help artists bring their music directly to the public. It&#8217;s the future. </p>
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