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		<title>By: Penycuic &#8211; Tune Bandits</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] the now infamous Pirate Bay, the courts are not being quite so lenient.  Last month the case of a 58 year old woman accused of sharing 45,000 recordings was closed with a guilty verdict.  The Stockholm woman was sentenced to probation and issued with [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alyssa, your belief (or hope?) that the internet represents &quot;a second world&quot; where human nature will not prevail is naive and profoundly so, and you are inevitably to deal with crushing disappointment as maturity and a broader world view of true understanding manifests in your life. You have my respect for your fruitless idealism and my sympathy for the painful adjustments to reality that lie ahead for you. Be well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alyssa, your belief (or hope?) that the internet represents &#8220;a second world&#8221; where human nature will not prevail is naive and profoundly so, and you are inevitably to deal with crushing disappointment as maturity and a broader world view of true understanding manifests in your life. You have my respect for your fruitless idealism and my sympathy for the painful adjustments to reality that lie ahead for you. Be well.</p>
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		<title>By: Ven</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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I don&#039;t know who said it, she may have admitted to it before ever seeking legal council. Most people who aren&#039;t familiar with the legal systems of the world rarely understand how and where being completely truthful and honest can bite them in the ass.]]></description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know who said it, she may have admitted to it before ever seeking legal council. Most people who aren&#8217;t familiar with the legal systems of the world rarely understand how and where being completely truthful and honest can bite them in the ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 05:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alyssa Blindy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Change can and may easily occur in society. The internet is a second world, whether we like it or not. Or, maybe, that is where the debate really comes in, where differences in views and differences in estimates of society come in. Many people on your side do not see what the inter webs are. The internet is completely new, a world where bits make up a bite, instead of atoms making up particles. The internet is a world which works because we invented it, all other &quot;worlds&quot; so to speak, have come by biological factors, or maybe even quantum factors. there are many ways at which the internet is a different world, where values of marketing and capitalism can change. See the book, &quot;The Pirate&#039;s Dilemma,&quot; by Matt mason.
Piracy is not all about getting free things, as much as you may think that is all it is about. It is a new way for people to express a need for change. There is something much deeper than just &quot;free stuff&quot; in the movement.
I used to feel the same way you did, I used to, but that changed. I almost feel for you, the same way at which you feel for me. I feel as if you can not except changes which are coming, and you feel that I can not accept the way it is is how it is is how it is, and so on, so forth.
That&#039;s where things get so heated, and it saddens me to see that have to happen.
You would think that if &quot;piracy&quot; is so big, copyright holders would look to negotiate laws which would help them; they would look for a compromise.
But no.
You can&#039;t argue that piracy is so small that no change to laws is needed, that would be hypocrisy.
You are trying to preserve your views by passing things like s. 968, s. 978, H.R. 3261, and even H.R. 1981.
All things which I have signed petitions against.
There is a difference between the physical model which is made up of atoms, and the virtual model which is made up of bits.
If you can&#039;t even see me on that, then there is no reason to even continue this debate because I predict it will get hostile. I don&#039;t need anymore of that energy at the moment.
Thank you.
~Alyssa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change can and may easily occur in society. The internet is a second world, whether we like it or not. Or, maybe, that is where the debate really comes in, where differences in views and differences in estimates of society come in. Many people on your side do not see what the inter webs are. The internet is completely new, a world where bits make up a bite, instead of atoms making up particles. The internet is a world which works because we invented it, all other &#8220;worlds&#8221; so to speak, have come by biological factors, or maybe even quantum factors. there are many ways at which the internet is a different world, where values of marketing and capitalism can change. See the book, &#8220;The Pirate&#8217;s Dilemma,&#8221; by Matt mason.<br />
Piracy is not all about getting free things, as much as you may think that is all it is about. It is a new way for people to express a need for change. There is something much deeper than just &#8220;free stuff&#8221; in the movement.<br />
I used to feel the same way you did, I used to, but that changed. I almost feel for you, the same way at which you feel for me. I feel as if you can not except changes which are coming, and you feel that I can not accept the way it is is how it is is how it is, and so on, so forth.<br />
That&#8217;s where things get so heated, and it saddens me to see that have to happen.<br />
You would think that if &#8220;piracy&#8221; is so big, copyright holders would look to negotiate laws which would help them; they would look for a compromise.<br />
But no.<br />
You can&#8217;t argue that piracy is so small that no change to laws is needed, that would be hypocrisy.<br />
You are trying to preserve your views by passing things like s. 968, s. 978, H.R. 3261, and even H.R. 1981.<br />
All things which I have signed petitions against.<br />
There is a difference between the physical model which is made up of atoms, and the virtual model which is made up of bits.<br />
If you can&#8217;t even see me on that, then there is no reason to even continue this debate because I predict it will get hostile. I don&#8217;t need anymore of that energy at the moment.<br />
Thank you.<br />
~Alyssa</p>
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		<title>By: Alyssa Blindy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Change can and may easily occur in society. The internet is a second world, whether we like it or not. Or, maybe, that is where the debate really comes in, where differences in views and differences in estimates of society come in. Many people on your side do not see what the inter webs are. The internet is completely new, a world where bits make up a bite, instead of atoms making up particles. The internet is a world which works because we invented it, all other &quot;worlds&quot; so to speak, have come by biological factors, or maybe even quantum factors. there are many ways at which the internet is a different world, where values of marketing and capitalism can change. See the book, &quot;The Pirate&#039;s Dilemma,&quot; by Matt mason.
Piracy is not all about getting free things, as much as you may think that is all it is about. It is a new way for people to express a need for change. There is something much deeper than just &quot;free stuff&quot; in the movement.
I used to feel the same way you did, I used to, but that changed. I almost feel for you, the same way at which you feel for me. I feel as if you can not except changes which are coming, and you feel that I can not accept the way it is is how it is is how it is, and so on, so forth.
That&#039;s where things get so heated, and it saddens me to see that have to happen.
You would think that if &quot;piracy&quot; is so big, copyright holders would look to negotiate laws which would help them; they would look for a compromise.
But no.
You can&#039;t argue that piracy is so small that no change to laws is needed, that would be hypocrisy.
You are trying to preserve your views by passing things like s. 968, s. 978, H.R. 3261, and even H.R. 1981.
All things which I have signed petitions against.
There is a difference between the physical model which is made up of atoms, and the virtual model which is made up of bits.
If you can&#039;t even see me on that, then there is no reason to even continue this debate because I predict it will get hostile. I don&#039;t need anymore of that energy at the moment.
Thank you.
~Alyssa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change can and may easily occur in society. The internet is a second world, whether we like it or not. Or, maybe, that is where the debate really comes in, where differences in views and differences in estimates of society come in. Many people on your side do not see what the inter webs are. The internet is completely new, a world where bits make up a bite, instead of atoms making up particles. The internet is a world which works because we invented it, all other &#8220;worlds&#8221; so to speak, have come by biological factors, or maybe even quantum factors. there are many ways at which the internet is a different world, where values of marketing and capitalism can change. See the book, &#8220;The Pirate&#8217;s Dilemma,&#8221; by Matt mason.<br />
Piracy is not all about getting free things, as much as you may think that is all it is about. It is a new way for people to express a need for change. There is something much deeper than just &#8220;free stuff&#8221; in the movement.<br />
I used to feel the same way you did, I used to, but that changed. I almost feel for you, the same way at which you feel for me. I feel as if you can not except changes which are coming, and you feel that I can not accept the way it is is how it is is how it is, and so on, so forth.<br />
That&#8217;s where things get so heated, and it saddens me to see that have to happen.<br />
You would think that if &#8220;piracy&#8221; is so big, copyright holders would look to negotiate laws which would help them; they would look for a compromise.<br />
But no.<br />
You can&#8217;t argue that piracy is so small that no change to laws is needed, that would be hypocrisy.<br />
You are trying to preserve your views by passing things like s. 968, s. 978, H.R. 3261, and even H.R. 1981.<br />
All things which I have signed petitions against.<br />
There is a difference between the physical model which is made up of atoms, and the virtual model which is made up of bits.<br />
If you can&#8217;t even see me on that, then there is no reason to even continue this debate because I predict it will get hostile. I don&#8217;t need anymore of that energy at the moment.<br />
Thank you.<br />
~Alyssa</p>
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		<title>By: Alyssa Blindy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Change can and may easily occur in society. The internet is a second world, whether we like it or not. Or, maybe, that is where the debate really comes in, where differences in views and differences in estimates of society come in. Many people on your side do not see what the inter webs are. The internet is completely new, a world where bits make up a bite, instead of atoms making up particles. The internet is a world which works because we invented it, all other &quot;worlds&quot; so to speak, have come by biological factors, or maybe even quantum factors. there are many ways at which the internet is a different world, where values of marketing and capitalism can change. See the book, &quot;The Pirate&#039;s Dilemma,&quot; by Matt mason.
Piracy is not all about getting free things, as much as you may think that is all it is about. It is a new way for people to express a need for change. There is something much deeper than just &quot;free stuff&quot; in the movement.
I used to feel the same way you did, I used to, but that changed. I almost feel for you, the same way at which you feel for me. I feel as if you can not except changes which are coming, and you feel that I can not accept the way it is is how it is is how it is, and so on, so forth.
That&#039;s where things get so heated, and it saddens me to see that have to happen.
You would think that if &quot;piracy&quot; is so big, copyright holders would look to negotiate laws which would help them; they would look for a compromise.
But no.
You can&#039;t argue that piracy is so small that no change to laws is needed, that would be hypocrisy.
You are trying to preserve your views by passing things like s. 968, s. 978, H.R. 3261, and even H.R. 1981.
All things which I have signed petitions against.
There is a difference between the physical model which is made up of atoms, and the virtual model which is made up of bits.
If you can&#039;t even see me on that, then there is no reason to even continue this debate because I predict it will get hostile. I don&#039;t need anymore of that energy at the moment.
Thank you.
~Alyssa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change can and may easily occur in society. The internet is a second world, whether we like it or not. Or, maybe, that is where the debate really comes in, where differences in views and differences in estimates of society come in. Many people on your side do not see what the inter webs are. The internet is completely new, a world where bits make up a bite, instead of atoms making up particles. The internet is a world which works because we invented it, all other &#8220;worlds&#8221; so to speak, have come by biological factors, or maybe even quantum factors. there are many ways at which the internet is a different world, where values of marketing and capitalism can change. See the book, &#8220;The Pirate&#8217;s Dilemma,&#8221; by Matt mason.<br />
Piracy is not all about getting free things, as much as you may think that is all it is about. It is a new way for people to express a need for change. There is something much deeper than just &#8220;free stuff&#8221; in the movement.<br />
I used to feel the same way you did, I used to, but that changed. I almost feel for you, the same way at which you feel for me. I feel as if you can not except changes which are coming, and you feel that I can not accept the way it is is how it is is how it is, and so on, so forth.<br />
That&#8217;s where things get so heated, and it saddens me to see that have to happen.<br />
You would think that if &#8220;piracy&#8221; is so big, copyright holders would look to negotiate laws which would help them; they would look for a compromise.<br />
But no.<br />
You can&#8217;t argue that piracy is so small that no change to laws is needed, that would be hypocrisy.<br />
You are trying to preserve your views by passing things like s. 968, s. 978, H.R. 3261, and even H.R. 1981.<br />
All things which I have signed petitions against.<br />
There is a difference between the physical model which is made up of atoms, and the virtual model which is made up of bits.<br />
If you can&#8217;t even see me on that, then there is no reason to even continue this debate because I predict it will get hostile. I don&#8217;t need anymore of that energy at the moment.<br />
Thank you.<br />
~Alyssa</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you’ll forgive the presumption, Alyssa, the mistake you are making is one all young people make. Society as it is, is the perfect reflection of our values and our true nature. Some will exploit and prevail, some will be exploited and fail. This reaches back to the beginning of human time because it is who we are.

You appear to honestly believe that a new format, a digital format, can wipe clean thousands of years of history and more importantly, hundreds of years of near universally agreed upon values about business, fair play, the inherent human rights of the creator (codified by the United Nations, not incidentally.)

Civil Rights embraced an honor that nothing was in it for those who were not black and yet stood up for it. Pirates preach altruism but in the end, always evidence they are in this for free stuff, whether it takes a vpn or encryption, spoofing and blaming it on someone else, it’s always about avoiding payment and getting something free for THEM. There is no altruism in piracy because without the free entertainment, your cause withers.

You’d get a lot more respect if you ran the risk with nothing in it for yourself. THAT’s what civil rights were all about. Risk with no personal reward. THAT’s why it is so cheap for pirates to wrap themselves in that noble cause. The black man couldn’t do it on his own. It required non-blacks (who already HAD their rights) to stand up FOR him. That’s not what pirates do. If they don’t get free stuff one way, they will find (technically) another. THAT, Alyssa, is what pirates do. Getting stuff remains the point. Pirates take free stuff every second.

It’s cheap and disrespectful on so many levels of historical significance, respect for the creator and payment as evidence of that respect or just leave it alone and do without and let the market simply take the creator away. Thousands of years of barter is the basis for this. Piracy is piracy. Call it “sharing” and it’s still ripping off the one who actually did the work for you.

I feel for you in some ways. I remember when my ideals so clouded my eyes I struggled with reality until reality, as it always does and always will, won. Reality IS. It always prevails because it’s real. But this time is different. You’ve been given profound tools, trusted to you with no lawful right to them at all, just a global agreement that if you don’t abuse them to much, you can keep and use and enjoy them.

You are too young to understand this. You keep pushing as if your ideals might trump the truth of human nature. You, too, will be lost if you don’t mature and gain wisdom before it is too late.

We all lived where you do, Alyssa, but we didn’t have your technology. Silly you to believe that mere tech can change who we are. We’ve been here before. We’ll be here always because this is who we are. Storm the portals of your government or sit down, Alyssa. Your pointless support of unlawful infringement agitation only strips the rest of us of our rights and when you gain some vantage, you’ll see the damage you’ve done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you’ll forgive the presumption, Alyssa, the mistake you are making is one all young people make. Society as it is, is the perfect reflection of our values and our true nature. Some will exploit and prevail, some will be exploited and fail. This reaches back to the beginning of human time because it is who we are.</p>
<p>You appear to honestly believe that a new format, a digital format, can wipe clean thousands of years of history and more importantly, hundreds of years of near universally agreed upon values about business, fair play, the inherent human rights of the creator (codified by the United Nations, not incidentally.)</p>
<p>Civil Rights embraced an honor that nothing was in it for those who were not black and yet stood up for it. Pirates preach altruism but in the end, always evidence they are in this for free stuff, whether it takes a vpn or encryption, spoofing and blaming it on someone else, it’s always about avoiding payment and getting something free for THEM. There is no altruism in piracy because without the free entertainment, your cause withers.</p>
<p>You’d get a lot more respect if you ran the risk with nothing in it for yourself. THAT’s what civil rights were all about. Risk with no personal reward. THAT’s why it is so cheap for pirates to wrap themselves in that noble cause. The black man couldn’t do it on his own. It required non-blacks (who already HAD their rights) to stand up FOR him. That’s not what pirates do. If they don’t get free stuff one way, they will find (technically) another. THAT, Alyssa, is what pirates do. Getting stuff remains the point. Pirates take free stuff every second.</p>
<p>It’s cheap and disrespectful on so many levels of historical significance, respect for the creator and payment as evidence of that respect or just leave it alone and do without and let the market simply take the creator away. Thousands of years of barter is the basis for this. Piracy is piracy. Call it “sharing” and it’s still ripping off the one who actually did the work for you.</p>
<p>I feel for you in some ways. I remember when my ideals so clouded my eyes I struggled with reality until reality, as it always does and always will, won. Reality IS. It always prevails because it’s real. But this time is different. You’ve been given profound tools, trusted to you with no lawful right to them at all, just a global agreement that if you don’t abuse them to much, you can keep and use and enjoy them.</p>
<p>You are too young to understand this. You keep pushing as if your ideals might trump the truth of human nature. You, too, will be lost if you don’t mature and gain wisdom before it is too late.</p>
<p>We all lived where you do, Alyssa, but we didn’t have your technology. Silly you to believe that mere tech can change who we are. We’ve been here before. We’ll be here always because this is who we are. Storm the portals of your government or sit down, Alyssa. Your pointless support of unlawful infringement agitation only strips the rest of us of our rights and when you gain some vantage, you’ll see the damage you’ve done.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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