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		<title>By: dole</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-446924</link>
		<dc:creator>dole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idealistically, it shouldn&#039;t be about the money, but Jviddy is right. The producing companies behind these shows - which cost millions per episode to produce - need to find an efficient and viewer attractive way to distribute shows online or cross platform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idealistically, it shouldn&#8217;t be about the money, but Jviddy is right. The producing companies behind these shows &#8211; which cost millions per episode to produce &#8211; need to find an efficient and viewer attractive way to distribute shows online or cross platform.</p>
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		<title>By: sinner</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-444289</link>
		<dc:creator>sinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>review and guide at



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>review and guide at</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-442679</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 14:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not very good at website design, but I have attempted to create a pledge for people who are willing to struggle for a cause, so that there might be a chance that we could take action collectively.

    It is at http://www.28chan.org/pledge.php

    What do you people think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not very good at website design, but I have attempted to create a pledge for people who are willing to struggle for a cause, so that there might be a chance that we could take action collectively.</p>
<p>    It is at <a href="http://www.28chan.org/pledge.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.28chan.org/pledge.php</a></p>
<p>    What do you people think?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-442154</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The future of TV will be more international, with real interaction, and shows will be more and more integrated into the core part of an online community&quot;


No way! TV and Tv shows sucks.Just stop downloading the shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The future of TV will be more international, with real interaction, and shows will be more and more integrated into the core part of an online community&#8221;</p>
<p>No way! TV and Tv shows sucks.Just stop downloading the shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Fan financed TV series</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-441383</link>
		<dc:creator>Fan financed TV series</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ads in TV shows and movies will be edited out mercilessly and ad-less fan versions released on file sharing networks.  

Ads make a product worse - the TV show sponsored torrents will lose to the better ad-free fan torrents.


What could work is easy micropayments or microsubscriptions - subscribe for a minimum of 1 dollar / episode on the official site of a TV show, and you get access to their faster seeded tracker, mail notification when a new episode is out, and the knowledge that you support the series.  

Offer different subsciption rates, allow people to subscibe for more than 1 dollar if they want to show stronger support, and give some goodies at some thresholds, e.g. keychain at $5/episode, T-shirt and DVD:s at $20/episode, etc.

Another possibility, allow watchers to vote for alternative plot developments, or which character to follow in next episode, and such, with text messages that you charge a few dollars for.

This way a TV show would not depend only on the opinion of a few TV company executives to survive, instead it would get direct support from its fan base (e.g. Firefly could still be alive with this kind of business model).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ads in TV shows and movies will be edited out mercilessly and ad-less fan versions released on file sharing networks.  </p>
<p>Ads make a product worse &#8211; the TV show sponsored torrents will lose to the better ad-free fan torrents.</p>
<p>What could work is easy micropayments or microsubscriptions &#8211; subscribe for a minimum of 1 dollar / episode on the official site of a TV show, and you get access to their faster seeded tracker, mail notification when a new episode is out, and the knowledge that you support the series.  </p>
<p>Offer different subsciption rates, allow people to subscibe for more than 1 dollar if they want to show stronger support, and give some goodies at some thresholds, e.g. keychain at $5/episode, T-shirt and DVD:s at $20/episode, etc.</p>
<p>Another possibility, allow watchers to vote for alternative plot developments, or which character to follow in next episode, and such, with text messages that you charge a few dollars for.</p>
<p>This way a TV show would not depend only on the opinion of a few TV company executives to survive, instead it would get direct support from its fan base (e.g. Firefly could still be alive with this kind of business model).</p>
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		<title>By: track3r</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-440603</link>
		<dc:creator>track3r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That reminds me,

Check out the preair of Fringe when you get a chance. It will definately a big show. Done by J.J. Abrams - the creater of Lost and Alias. 
The show.. IMO is a cross between Alias and the X-Files. I don&#039;t know if it was a deliberate leak to gauge up and comming populatity - but who knows.

I am kind of surprised it did not make the top 10 TF tv list as it was released around the same time as the other preairs and it was huge on our site. Internal reviews - Reviewing all the up and comming shows are giving it an A-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That reminds me,</p>
<p>Check out the preair of Fringe when you get a chance. It will definately a big show. Done by J.J. Abrams &#8211; the creater of Lost and Alias.<br />
The show.. IMO is a cross between Alias and the X-Files. I don&#8217;t know if it was a deliberate leak to gauge up and comming populatity &#8211; but who knows.</p>
<p>I am kind of surprised it did not make the top 10 TF tv list as it was released around the same time as the other preairs and it was huge on our site. Internal reviews &#8211; Reviewing all the up and comming shows are giving it an A-</p>
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		<title>By: Phiphi</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-440527</link>
		<dc:creator>Phiphi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really can&#039;t wait for this to happen, I don&#039;t mind having the contents embedded with ads if they really make file sharing legal.

&gt;I&#039;m sure most people would just download the official one and skip the commercials when they come up if they want. There will be a minority of people who will wait for the inevitable commercial-free version, but they won&#039;t be the majority. Most people are more impatient than that. 

My suggestion is, you could download the latest episode with ads and lower grade of quality or you could wait a month or two for the ad free version.

Think about it, here comes the time for TV revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really can&#8217;t wait for this to happen, I don&#8217;t mind having the contents embedded with ads if they really make file sharing legal.</p>
<p>&gt;I&#8217;m sure most people would just download the official one and skip the commercials when they come up if they want. There will be a minority of people who will wait for the inevitable commercial-free version, but they won&#8217;t be the majority. Most people are more impatient than that. </p>
<p>My suggestion is, you could download the latest episode with ads and lower grade of quality or you could wait a month or two for the ad free version.</p>
<p>Think about it, here comes the time for TV revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-440379</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally if I could go &quot;legit&quot; I would go for it for the peace of mind and to support shows I enjoy.

My biggest problem with Ads is that 99% of ads are for products I&#039;m not interested in. If I had to register to download my tvs shows for free and legit I would. I would maybe have to enter in my top 10 interests and they could insert commercials for me specifically.

Ads for video games, cars, or whatever. I might even watch them! Not ads for tampons or dish washer soap :)

Of course I live in Canada. Here they like to delay shows. They delayed BSG season2 by over 6 months from the American channels! Idiots. Also we don&#039;t have access to good shows because we have Canadian content laws. Which basically means we have to watch crap Canadian shows before we are &quot;allowed&quot; to watch American ones. UGH.

I also got sick of paying over $100 a month just to watch 5 showsâ€¦.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally if I could go &#8220;legit&#8221; I would go for it for the peace of mind and to support shows I enjoy.</p>
<p>My biggest problem with Ads is that 99% of ads are for products I&#8217;m not interested in. If I had to register to download my tvs shows for free and legit I would. I would maybe have to enter in my top 10 interests and they could insert commercials for me specifically.</p>
<p>Ads for video games, cars, or whatever. I might even watch them! Not ads for tampons or dish washer soap :)</p>
<p>Of course I live in Canada. Here they like to delay shows. They delayed BSG season2 by over 6 months from the American channels! Idiots. Also we don&#8217;t have access to good shows because we have Canadian content laws. Which basically means we have to watch crap Canadian shows before we are &#8220;allowed&#8221; to watch American ones. UGH.</p>
<p>I also got sick of paying over $100 a month just to watch 5 showsâ€¦.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-440226</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just have the add poping up while your watching the show, but no brakes [sic]I could live with that.&quot;

Oh. God. No.

Keep the adverts in their own little timeslot at the beginning, end or the middle of the show, whatever, I might even watch them if it&#039;s too short a break to be worth my while jumping out of full-screen view to fast forward.

But keep them right the fuck out of the show. I&#039;m fucking sick of all the stuff that overlays the picture in US shows. I download Lost, and get &quot;WATCH THIS OTHER SHOW AT 10&quot; plastered across the bottom of the show for half the time.

It&#039;s nothing besides obnoxious, I don&#039;t mind adverts when they know their place and stay out of the way, when they interfere with my watching they can go die in a fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just have the add poping up while your watching the show, but no brakes [sic]I could live with that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh. God. No.</p>
<p>Keep the adverts in their own little timeslot at the beginning, end or the middle of the show, whatever, I might even watch them if it&#8217;s too short a break to be worth my while jumping out of full-screen view to fast forward.</p>
<p>But keep them right the fuck out of the show. I&#8217;m fucking sick of all the stuff that overlays the picture in US shows. I download Lost, and get &#8220;WATCH THIS OTHER SHOW AT 10&#8243; plastered across the bottom of the show for half the time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing besides obnoxious, I don&#8217;t mind adverts when they know their place and stay out of the way, when they interfere with my watching they can go die in a fire.</p>
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		<title>By: UraPhake</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-440177</link>
		<dc:creator>UraPhake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8 Jul 03, 2008 at 00:11 by ghost 
&quot;i don&#039;t watch tv, and didn&#039;t watched before bittorent and never will.&quot;
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You forgot to mention that you&#039;ve never used Microsoft Windows before and never will; just linux. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8 Jul 03, 2008 at 00:11 by ghost<br />
&#8220;i don&#8217;t watch tv, and didn&#8217;t watched before bittorent and never will.&#8221;<br />
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<p>You forgot to mention that you&#8217;ve never used Microsoft Windows before and never will; just linux. :D</p>
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		<title>By: TehStalker</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439527</link>
		<dc:creator>TehStalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if it wasn&#039;t for piracy, I would probably not be watching those shows :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if it wasn&#8217;t for piracy, I would probably not be watching those shows :P</p>
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		<title>By: Bazwalt</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439481</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazwalt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Todays TV is filled with entire junk. You watch maybe 15-20 mins of a show followed by 4-6 Ad-break commercials. Some of these commercials are Adult Based match making crap. It goes on and on and on and on and on and on.......... its just a pile of garbage. Bittorent is a convenient way of watching your favorite show wherever you like WHENEVER you like. You dont have to put off seeing your girlfriend or studies in order to watch the things you want. I think the 2 main keywords is freedom and convenience.TV networks and film/tv producers need to realise this and reap the benefits. Im sure that are plenty of ways that you can gain revenue whilst not interrupting or disturbing that same freedom and convenience Bittorent has to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Todays TV is filled with entire junk. You watch maybe 15-20 mins of a show followed by 4-6 Ad-break commercials. Some of these commercials are Adult Based match making crap. It goes on and on and on and on and on and on&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. its just a pile of garbage. Bittorent is a convenient way of watching your favorite show wherever you like WHENEVER you like. You dont have to put off seeing your girlfriend or studies in order to watch the things you want. I think the 2 main keywords is freedom and convenience.TV networks and film/tv producers need to realise this and reap the benefits. Im sure that are plenty of ways that you can gain revenue whilst not interrupting or disturbing that same freedom and convenience Bittorent has to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Aninhumer</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439474</link>
		<dc:creator>Aninhumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing that&#039;s interesting to note, anime cappers and fansubbers tend to leave sponsor messages in videos. Obviously they&#039;re in Japanese, and they don&#039;t bother subbing them, but they&#039;re basically a big logo on-screen for 5 seconds and a voice saying &quot;Thanks sponsors&quot; so it&#039;s not hard to work it out.
I think if they released files with minimal advertising on bittorrent, it would be more effort than it&#039;s worth to strip them out. Especially if they were entertaining in some way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing that&#8217;s interesting to note, anime cappers and fansubbers tend to leave sponsor messages in videos. Obviously they&#8217;re in Japanese, and they don&#8217;t bother subbing them, but they&#8217;re basically a big logo on-screen for 5 seconds and a voice saying &#8220;Thanks sponsors&#8221; so it&#8217;s not hard to work it out.<br />
I think if they released files with minimal advertising on bittorrent, it would be more effort than it&#8217;s worth to strip them out. Especially if they were entertaining in some way.</p>
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		<title>By: Aninhumer</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439470</link>
		<dc:creator>Aninhumer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;That would require reencoding the video (loosing quality) and it would take time.&quot;
It&#039;s possible to split and merge streams in mkv files, which would preserve the original datastream, but lose the adverts.
Even if there was a datastream format which didn&#039;t split well, I think it&#039;s possible to put metadata in the files to tell it to skip between timecodes, which means we still have to download a few megs of useless video but it&#039;s still better than watching adverts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That would require reencoding the video (loosing quality) and it would take time.&#8221;<br />
It&#8217;s possible to split and merge streams in mkv files, which would preserve the original datastream, but lose the adverts.<br />
Even if there was a datastream format which didn&#8217;t split well, I think it&#8217;s possible to put metadata in the files to tell it to skip between timecodes, which means we still have to download a few megs of useless video but it&#8217;s still better than watching adverts.</p>
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		<title>By: Pallab</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439455</link>
		<dc:creator>Pallab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The drive home the point, Prison Break S1 started on India on July 1st this year.
Lost S4 will probably come in late august or early september.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The drive home the point, Prison Break S1 started on India on July 1st this year.<br />
Lost S4 will probably come in late august or early september.</p>
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		<title>By: commercials SuCK..!!!</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439437</link>
		<dc:creator>commercials SuCK..!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I pay for TV.... no problem...  
But they can shove their Crappy commercials where the sun don&#039;t shine....!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pay for TV&#8230;. no problem&#8230;<br />
But they can shove their Crappy commercials where the sun don&#8217;t shine&#8230;.!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439434</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either that or cut back on ad content by 50%. 20 mins of ads with 40 min show? C&#039;mon that turns anyone off if there&#039;s any alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either that or cut back on ad content by 50%. 20 mins of ads with 40 min show? C&#8217;mon that turns anyone off if there&#8217;s any alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Jviddy</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439431</link>
		<dc:creator>Jviddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, as much as we all hate adverts in the middle of shows, we need them to pay for the production. 

No Adverts = No shows</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, as much as we all hate adverts in the middle of shows, we need them to pay for the production. </p>
<p>No Adverts = No shows</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Choquel</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439401</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Choquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to the unbearable airing delays, add the fact that it&#039;s almost impossible to see original versions of shows on TV in France, they are all dubbed in French and personally I can&#039;t stand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to the unbearable airing delays, add the fact that it&#8217;s almost impossible to see original versions of shows on TV in France, they are all dubbed in French and personally I can&#8217;t stand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Idealist</title>
		<link>http://torrentfreak.com/heroes-producer-recognizes-benefits-of-bittorrent-080702/#comment-439399</link>
		<dc:creator>Idealist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 02:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And most of all, we need to support the shows, producers and studios that are embracing free, non-commercial distribution.  They might be lower budget, lacking all the glitz and glam of network or cable tv, but if the support for their work is there then new infrastructure can be built around them.  Now is the time to recreate the industry in the manner which WE choose!</description>
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