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How Long Does Your ISP Store IP-Address Logs?

The ongoing avalanche of mass-BitTorrent lawsuits reveal that IP-addresses can get people into a heap of trouble and it’s not unusual for Internet subscribers to be wrongfully accused of sharing copyrighted material. This begs the question, for how long are these IP-addresses stored? To find out, TorrentFreak asked some of the largest Internet providers in the US about their logging practices.

Currently there are no mandatory data retention laws in the United States. Unlike in Europe, Internet providers are not required to track IP-address assignments so these can be linked to specific subscriber accounts.

The question is, for how long will this remain the case, especially considering SOPA author Lamar Smith’s introduction of a new bill last year. Under his Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act, ISPs will be required to keep IP-address logs for a minimum of a year.

For now, however, no logs are required by law.

Earlier this week the CEO of Sonic called on fellow ISPs to protect the privacy of subscribers and purge logs after two weeks like his company does. One of the reasons cited was the massive amount of civil subpoenas that are, ironically enough, often sent by “Internet pornographers” in mass-BitTorrent lawsuits.

A refreshing stance, and one that makes users of other providers curious about the logging practices of their ISPs. Unfortunately, nearly all providers are very secretive about their data retention policies. Unlike VPN providers, all admit to logging IP-addresses, but how long they retain them remains a mystery.

In an attempt to find out more, TorrentFreak contacted several large ISPs with the seemingly simple question; How long does “company X” store IP-address assignment logs? Our findings are detailed below.

Those who value their privacy and hide their IP-address can of course always sign up with a VPN provider, one that doesn’t keep logs.

Time Warner Cable

Time Warner informed us that they store IP-address logs for up to 6 months.

Interestingly, the company is the only ISP we contacted that also posts information regarding its data retention on its website.

Comcast

Comcast did not respond to our inquiries but has mentioned a 180 day retention policy for IP-addresses in BitTorrent-related court documents. On some occasions cases have been dismissed because logs were no longer available, meaning that alleged infringers could not be identified.

The 180 day policy is also mentioned in the Comcast Law Enforcement Handbook that leaked in 2007.

Verizon

Verizon’s Privacy Office informed TorrentFreak by email that information about IP address assignments is retained for 18 months, the longest of all ISPs who responded to our request.

Qwest/Century

The Qwest/CenturyLink Law Enforcement Support Group informed us that IP-address logs are kept for approximately 1 year. As is also the case with other Internet Providers, Qwest/Century noted that personal details are only disclosed when the company receives a subpoena.

Cox

Cox failed to reply to our inquiry, but previously it has mentioned a 6 month retention policy for IP-address assignments in the press. In Cox’s “Lawful Intercept Worksheet” the company also mentions that logs are kept for “up to 6 months.”

AT&T

AT&T’s IP-address logging practices are not public. Initially the company did not reply to out inquiry, but upon publishing AT&T’s Privacy Policy Team promised to get back to us as soon as they find out how long logs are kept. We will update this article as soon as their response arrives.

Charter

Charter lists no information about their IP-address retention in its privacy policy. However, a reader alerted us to an answer on Charter’s website where it states that residential IP-addresses are retained for one year.

The ISPs below were added after publication.

- DSL Extreme says they retain radius IP logs for two weeks on their DSL service.
- Teksavvy (Canada) keeps IP-assignment logs for two years 90 days.
- Eastlink (Canada) keeps IP-assignment logs for one year

As far as we are aware, this is the first overview of IP-logging practices of the largest U.S. ISPs. However, we need help to make the list more complete as not all the providers we contacted replied.

We encourage all readers to tweet, mail or phone their Internet providers to get a more complete overview, including ISPs not listed above. This is not limited to providers in the U.S. Feel free to forward us the answers so we can expand this article.

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  • Master

    Comcast:
    Not bad.

    • Random American

       In AT&T’s defense, I never received a single DMCA notice while with them as a heavy pirate from ’07-’12. I’ve gotten 1 since switching to Comcast which arrived less than 2 weeks after starting their service. I got 5 from a VPN service I used for a short time while with AT&T. They have stated that only the courts can determine who is an offender, so they don’t seem to give a crap about sending the notices.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/L2FW55JCG4NNVE2CCP5336XJRE Cheese!

        I got one from AT&T, but it was after I stupidly took my PC to Best Buy to get fixed and was essentially, but unsuccessfully, blackmailed there. Shortly thereafter, I got the call, switched providers, and am now with Time Warner.

        • Laura

           taking your pc to best buy fager(geek) squad = worst thing you can do…. Do your research about it, as u obv didn’t. Geek squad = lea squad and they copy your data for their own purposes and call lea to arrest you. Unfortunately all the sheeple or tons use them, tis how they stay in business. I would be like “look you fucking idiots, I brought my pc for u to fix, not for u to dig in my shit and turn me in, I will publish this story on every newspaper and online in high traffic places, and I will also buy traffic to make sure the world knows about your shitty company. Geek squad my ass, more like lea squad.

        • http://nipp.me/089 Glenda N. Paez

          Throw the government down the well so my country can be free!! http://FreeLancerGetWork7.notlong.com

      • Laura(notSpammerLaura)

         5 while using a vpn service, what shitty service was this so we can tell them to fuck off and wtf are they doing sending notices when they are a vpn, we need to close them down as they suck!

        • FuckTheNsa

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          They Spy Files Map of Coutnries and Their Monitoring of Internet, Phone,/other survelance , How is your internet, phone, and other items Monitored in your country? USA (Nazi America is monitored by 16-32 different agencies for internet) If link is slow, try another time or look for mirror/host your own mirror, due to lack of time I do not have time to look at the moment for mirror or make one, but here is the info, torrentfreak why did you not cover this and ask for retention policies but leave this info out?
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        • watfordjc

          @e79cfcfecba60395d2a397d82477a6cc:disqus Oh my God! The BBC just did a story on bacon sandwiches and didn’t mention dolphins!

          IP retention policies and surveillance are as different as bacon sarnies and dolphins.

          The Daily Mail might try to clobber stories together because they come under “Internet stuff” or “poor people stuff” but don’t expect all news sites (especially those dedicated to a specific area of news) to lump disparate things together.

        • RonaldoGEne

          Laura… geek squad has no corporate policy of reporting users for piracy. you won’t find many cases of them blackmailing or reporting. In fact they themselves were in trouble over piracy. One time for using SpinRite without permission.

          Plus I would think they would put their efforts into trying to remove their pirated Geek Squad MRI from popular torrent websites…. also who the fuck is the LEA?

          I do admit its retarded to use geek squad as they are undereducated and WAY overpriced, the average american is not too smart though.

    • Peasant O’ CouncilHouse

      We all know what the fuck AT&T are up to….
      Anyone remember Mark Klein and the AT&T scandal?
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Klein 
      Let’s not forget the board-members…

    • Peasant O’ CouncilHouse
    • Latecia

       sprint/nextell corp, 90 days, however no idea how they can tell who is using the net as its not fixed ip when you get one,

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WKHPKJNAOKOKS24TNBNXHFO2BM Amun Ra

    Romanian law dictates that all traffic, internet or cellular, is to be logged for a period of 6months. With warrants the government can prolong this period. the logs are allegedly inaccessible by officials until a warrant is provided. But said restriction has been underhanded for political gain since b4 the law was implemented. 

    In my country there is Problem, and that problem is Boeing, selling advanced tracking systems, like the ones they gave 2 Mubarak… Throw the government down the well so my country can be free!!

    Joke aside, Boeing bought Narus Security Solutions in 2007, and Mubarak used Narus systems 2 spy on the Egyptians. . . in real time. . . 

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  • IvoPineda_ElCharroMexico

    looks like in US there are a group of terrorist among ISPs searching what are you doing? are the reading emails, looking up twitts? freedom!!!!!!

    • Violated0

      ISPs should only be storing your IP and connection dates and times. They should also only be looking closer at your data if needed for network maintainable when there are usually strong laws banning them or anyone else from general spying.

  • MrFuzzums

    Knowing how AT&T gives information to government agencies….probably years

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  • DutchGuest

    It’s about time Russia invades the U.S.A. to install a democracy…

    • NewClear

       Heck, we need a whole separate life form to invade earth and remove every government on earth and ensure fair government for all.

      • Bob FW

        In movies why is superman, x-men and other superheroes working for the corporate parasites? I mean aren’t they suppose to kill them all with their superpowers?

        • Asdf

           well, unlike in real life, in comic books the corporate parasites are nice guys and all that. I mean, the ones the superheroes of supergood and righteousness work for.

        • Comic Geek

          Clark Kent (Superman) works for the Daily Planet.  A new company.  About the most “evil” thing they could do is put a spin on the news.  And Superman doesn’t exactly care about politicians.  One of Supermans big enemies is Lex Luthor, CEO of LexCorp.

          The X-Men are part of Xavier’s School for Gifted Youngster(/Xavier Institute for Higher Learning/Jean Grey School for Higher Learning), not a company by any means, but more like a non-profit organization.  A Boys and Girls Club for mutants, if you will.  There are mentions of X-Corporation, but again, it sounds more non-profit than business.

          Infact the only two mainstream superheroes I can think of that are directly affiliated with a company are Bruce Wayne/Batman and Tony Stark/Ironman, each CEOs of their respective companies.

    • Adward

      yeah, russia is definitely the shining example of a democracy…

      • YourFriend

        That’s the joke guy!

        • DutchGuest

          Yeah YourFriend, i’m glad you and at least 23 others got it.

          @Adward : back away from the computer SLOWLY and WALK AWAY NOW.

  • Ishigidydigidy

    Having worked for AT&T for over a year, I can tell you that if it’s anything like cell phone logs, it’s kept for no more than 18 months.  It’s not flushed out completely, but rather pushed off a cliff.  Once data reached an age of 19 months, it disappeared completely.  I know internet services are much different, but I just thought I’d give a little insider information on SOME of the company’s many policies. (Even though I WORKED for them, I still couldn’t make heads or tails of some of them.  Most of our “notes” consisted of judgement calls).

  • Same IP… locale as is…..

    @Ernesto:disqus
    How long does TorrentFreak store IP addresses for comments ?
    Does disqus also get a copy automatically ?

    I have asked @BJonesTF:disqus before (twice) but got no reply.
    Now seems like a very good time to ask again.

    • Random American

      I don’t know if that is actually what happened, but I do agree that they should come clean about their own logging practices if they expect others to.

      • Same IP… locale as is…..

        Responding to a comment by BJonesTF is asking him……it comes up as a [reply to you] in the disqus panel.
        Maybe I should have emailed him …. besides the point.. it did happen.

        Even still….. It’s a relevant question.

        • BJonesTF

          Replying to a comment might show up in the disqus panel. I never look at that, and always go directly to the moderation panel. There are that many responses that trying to keep track of them is too difficult.

          As for your question, we will get back to you on that. But you could start by looking here (http://help.disqus.com/customer/portal/articles/466259-privacy-policy), and asking them, since they provide the basis for our comment system now.

        • Same IP… locale as is…..

          thanks, if it was a serious concern or a personal question, I would have emailed you btw, but it’s more of a “curiosity of a TorrentFreak user” than a concern, so please don’t think I am “gettin at ya” for it, that’s not my intention.
          (going straight to the mod panel makes sense)

          As for the ip logging…..
          I expected the ip’s to be logged forever by disqus, nested in with the comment info. Technically it’s a good idea to record them so you(mod) can ban, block spammers etc…. and deleting an individual comment “log” after a period of time would require actions secondary to the actual service (not gonna happen).

          A quick look at their Privacy Policy would states they record more than just the IP. (everything they can) Doesn’t say how long they keep their logs for, if it’s longer than an ISP keeps IP logs then it’s not really an issue for anonymous commentators as it’s the isp with possibly the users address.

          I speculate(me making shit up)  that they purge their internal (lets call it a database) “logs” after time, but the comment will still have a log of ip/username/email/time/comment forever.

          We should expect everything to be recorded.

    • Ad

      I imagine your IP address will be attached to your post which exists on the Disqus servers (U.S. based), and will be accessible to anyone here with moderator or greater powers working for TorrentFreak, and similarly to those with access to the Disqus servers.  You should probably assume that will remain the case at least until the post is flushed from the Internet, which could be many years.

      Go read the Disqus privacy policy for specific insight into what information they gather and store about you (it’s quite a lot).

      • Ad

        Oh and by the way, in case you ever did think that TorrentFreak and the Disqus service was free, it’s not.  Always remember that you’re the product being sold.  It costs you, and you pay for that in part by the information that you give them.

        You think TorrentFreak much care about being open and honest about that?

        • Same IP… locale as is…..

          Had a look at that… they record the colour of my underwear, and everything else they can mine.

          I know that the user is the commodity….so I try to avoid giving up info, as much as is convenient to me.( I know…. it should be “as much as I can”)….
          eg…
          having flash enabled for youtube etc.. is convenient , but then sites can read my system fonts and fingerprint me more accurately.
          That’s the issue, a “third party info orgy” with your collectable data.
          Best you can do is try to give out as little data as possible and fake the data you do give out.

          “You think TorrentFreak much care about being open and honest about that?”
          You have me stumped…IDK
          I don’t see TF being malicious in data harvesting it’s users for profit.
          I can see TF using any viable means to generate revenue for their traffic.

          Seeing that there is no disclaimer or warning about using the comments section and the implications of using third party comments when using TF….. IDK

        • Ad

          Well, regarding TorrentFreak here, I don’t see it likely them being too keen to inform their userbase of just how they’re making money out of them, just as one might expect from most businesses that derive an income from user data, especially so when dealing with a crowd as sensitive as this to issues of personal privacy.  Malicious? I don’t know about that – I guess that’ll come down to your own personal judgement on the matter as to whether you consider them as acting decently or not.

          Check this though.  How many people here do you suppose are aware of just how many third-party services gain information on them from their visiting this place?  When you opened this page alone at torrentfreak·com, your browser also contacted the following:

          disqus·com
          twitter·com
          googleadservices·com
          privateinternetaccess·com
          google-analytics·com
          flattr·com
          google·com
          facebook·com
          collective-media·net
          getclicky·com
          ytimg·com (youtube)
          quantserve·com
          scorecardresearch·com

          All of those services will have also logged you.  So in my mind, when you become aware of this, it kind of makes the OP question to Ben Jones regarding TorrentFreak’s logging policy seem pretty ridiculous when you consider just how many third-party sites are also involved.

          Personally, I think it’s pretty insidious what’s happening these days with people’s info.  It runs so deep into people’s lives (this post doesn’t even come close to describing the details of it), I don’t think that most can be that aware of it, as they would surely revolt.

          Privacy/anonymity/security is hard these days, if that’s what you desire.

        • EricPost

          Use Ghostery to find and block if needed who’s looking at the websites you visit

    • Guest

      You think TF’s gonna tell you that? They follow the Do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do mantra.

      • ndmushroom

        Well, if we’ve arrived to the point where we can be legally harassed for stuff we said on the TF discussion board, this is a very sad day. If not, I don’t see how the two (TF vs ISPs) can really compare.

        • Same IP… locale as is…..

          In the UK…
          Saying that you “hope he dies” on twitter can land you in prison.
          (that and racist words)

          So we have reached that day.

  • Same IP… locale as is…..

    copypasta http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12/33643734-virgin-media-data-retention-period.html

    The EU requires the following details of phone calls and emails to be kept for 6 months to 2 years:

    1. Source (originating number, from address)

    2. Destination (dialled number, to address)

    3. Date and time

    4. Identity of “communications device” (type of mobile phone, IP address maybe?)

    5. Location of any mobile equipment (what cell tower for mobiles)

    Here in Airstrip One, sorry the United Kingdom, they also have to log the following for 12 months:

    1. Subscriber details include name, date of birth, installation and
    billing address, payment method, bank account/credit card details,
    customer reference number

    2. Services subscribed to

    3. For phones the phone number, IMEI, IMSI, serial number etc

    4. Email addresses (remember to use a fake name when signing up for gmail/hotmail)

    5. IP addresses associated with your account

    6. Instant Messenger name/handle

    7. Any log-in details

    8. MAC addresses associated with your account

    9. Any other identifying numbers/names for your account

    For your mobile phone they keep the following for 12 months:

    1. Log of all calls made, including both phone numbers

    2. Time/date of call

    3. Both phones IMEI/serial numbesr

    4. Location of both parties in a call, in latitude/longitude format

    5. Length of call

    6. IP address (maybe for VOIP?)

    7. Type of call if applicable

    They also have the ability to determine the phones location to within a
    few meters using triangulation (like the iPhone does) and on some phones
    to install covert bugging software that turns the phone into a
    microphone for them when it’s turned on (as reported by the Financial
    Times)

    For 6 months they keep the following data about text and multimedia messages:

    1. Calling / destination number

    2. Phone IMEI/serial

    3. Date and time

    4. Delivery receipt, if available

    5. Location of both phones in lat/long format

    They keep the following data on email for 6 months:

    1. Time of log in / log out to webmail

    2. From address

    3. To address

    4. Any CC/BCC addresses

    5. Time of sending a message

    6. Time of receiving messages

    7. IP address at time of sending/receipt/logon/logout

    8. User name

    9. MAC address

    The following ISP data is kept for 6 months:

    1. IP addresses

    2. MAC addresses

    3. Username

    4. Time of access

    Web activity is kept for 4 days:

    1. Domains visited (so if you visit “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ninteen Eighty Four” they just log en.wikipedia.org)

    2. Time of visit

    3. Any services used

    4. IP address of access

    They also keep certain other data, if available, like IM usernames and
    dates of access/sending/receiving messages. They can also keep any other
    data they think is important for undisclosed amounts of time.

    They keep postal data (what is written on the outside of the envelope) for an unknown amount of time. Bank data is 7 years.

    Plans are afoot to record vehicle movement data via automatic numberplate recognition cameras for up to 2 years as well.

    They almost certainly keep newsgroup access logs too. Even worse, it
    seems that lawyers can get access to this data for civil copyright
    suits, when originally it was only supposed to be security services, the
    tax office and the police.

    Basically, the only way to protect yourself is to use a VPN service like
    Relakks, sign up for gmail with a fake name or even better run your own
    email server with no logging, and use TrueCrypt to encrypt your entire
    PC, preferably with a hidden OS too. Otherwise, expect to have a log of
    everything you do kept.

    • Violated0

      This does remind me to soon VPN encrypt my butt 24/7 when they collect far more details than I released. It is concerning to think that they are tracking all your communication and it only take a little interest push to open the content.

      Yes best avoid using your real name most places and using webmail looks a very bad idea to me. It is indeed much better to keep your private email offline on your own computer and to use some mail server that does not do any long term tracking. Not that the email system has ever been secure but all about protecting your end point.

      My current issue doing that is that it seems BT does not operate an SMTP server for sending email. They used to but it seems they now want everyone to use bloody webmail.

  • Beatles Suck

    None of those companies practice where I am at. Try to find out Windstream and Insight.

  • http://notandor.wordpress.com/ Ole Juul

    This whole IP address thing is a red herring. Since many ISPs use NAT several times over, there are more than IP records needed to identify users. My whole town (and the neighbouring one) has only one IP address.  Welcome to the real world.

  • Anonymous

    There were quite a few articles over the past few weeks as Sonic.net cut its retention policies to delete logs after 14 days.  Even if they aren’t a “major provider,” I’d say that deserves an honorable mention on this article.

    • Anyone

      it’s the very first mention and the reason for this article

  • Iydi

    indefinitely

  • Sanity_Vocal

    Perhaps someone should sue the telcos for invasion of privacy, because by keeping the logs for more that neccessary, your privacy is violated. Why can’t the ISPs also have immediate deletion of Logs settings?

  • BW2Colour

    Can someone find out the time for
    “Wide Open West” aka WOW
    &
    “Direct Tv”

  • Asdf

    “Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act”

    man, I had to stop reading there to do some laughing

    • Guestual

      It’s true though.

      It’s not advertising on TF on how strong there anti-child protection schemes are. In the UK they have a layer to go through before accessing the website after the ISP layer … this layer is called the blacklist. They block access to child p0rn. A few years ago there was a report about it going wrong and they accidently blocked wikipedia for an album cover with a naked child on the cover. I’ve never heard of them abusing that power to delete any piracy sites though.

  • Kool

    going to contact philippines ISPs for this

    hope it goes well

  • Chilly8

    Once logs are purged, the ISPs ned to use something like KillDisk or Evidence Eliminator to make sure that logs cannot be recovered through forensics, once they are erased.

    And as far as Sonic deleting logs after two weeks. That will not work if you are on a Static IP plan, as the IP address itself will still point to you. However, if you run a website and want to protect your users privacy, an ISP like Sonic would be the way to go, as the ISP level data on who accessed your site will be gone once the logs are purged.

  • Chilly8

    Since HR 1981 is on the Union Calendar, I think this might get voted on during the Lame Duck session after the election.

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    What I don’t understand is why they keep this information at all. Is there some kind of federal mandate that makes them have to keep all this data?

    • http://notandor.wordpress.com/ Ole Juul

      They need to keep the information on how to get to your computer so that when you make an http request (for example) they know where to send the result. You wouldn’t be able to use the web otherwise. How long is a practical and efficient time to keep the information is another story.
       

      • Sam

        They only need your current information for that, once you reconnect and get a new IP the old one has no use to them anymore, putting that in a log serves no purpose.

      • Same IP… locale as is…..

        ?
        These are LOG files they are keeping.
        (this.customers.modem = this.IP at this.time)

        You may have 365 different IP addresses in a year.

        These LOGS are the history files.

        • Ole Juul

          Thanks for the clarification. I thought it was the same thing. :) What’s interesting where I live is that everybody has the same outward facing IP and it doesn’t change. They probably don’t keep any logs then. That could be fun if there was an attempt to prosecute somebody. I’ll have to ask them about that.

  • john doe

    What was that ISP that “forgot” to delete logs for YEARS?

    • DW

       NSA

  • sankotanko

    Man thats jsut downright scary stuff when you think about it dude. Wow.
    Mostly-Anon.tk

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  • Guest

    Could you guys check into how long Shaw Cable retains IP address info? I have to head off to work or would myself:

    http://www.shaw.ca/privacy-policy/ 

  • Rodrigo2kpereira

    In China, mandatory data retention is for up 30 days.

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  • Neb12

    The question here is how long does the complaintant keep ip address for furthur spying? I have had at least 7 complaints from Holywood chopshops aka internet snoops and Verizon tells me that unless there is a court order the information is only between myself and Verizon. These movie moguls have hired an army of spies to further their determination for world wide domination and control of the internet.

    Personally, if I had known what lengths these folks would go to to make me a criminal, I would never have helped build such systems.

    The funny thing is these are corporate allegations being administered through a court of law.

    If a human has retention problems they can take a pill. Otherwise, just turn off your machine.

    Bottom line, I will use my machine within the capabilities allowed and I don’t need snoop dog to tell me what to do.

    neb

  • fffrrr

    Hi Ernesto, maybe in USA exist similar laws as the Latin America laws in this topic. My question is what was your metodology to request the time retention logs to the companies? How did you contact them?
    Literally did you make the next question: How long does “company X” store IP-address assignment logs? Maybe the same argument work for request it to the Latin Americ ISP´s. Thx.

  • Hollll

    “IP Address Assignment Logs: Up to 6 months 
    Connection Logs: We do not maintain information regarding connection logs or start/stop times for internet use.”

    I don’t speak english very well but it seems contradictory to me.
    What’s the point of logging the IP address without the start/stop times information ?

    In the case of dynamic IP adress, you have to log something like :
    “John Doe’s IP Adress was
    - 8.8.8.8 the 01/01/2011 from 8am to 8pm;
    - 6.6.6.6 the 02/01/2011 from 7am to 5pm;
    - 5.5.5.5 the 03/01/2011 from 10am to 6pm;”

    You can’t just log :
    “John Doe’s IP Adress was
    - 8.8.8.8
    - 6.6.6.6
    - 5.5.5.5″

    Did I miss something ?

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  • http://aqfl.net Ant

    What about Adelphia’s? :P

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    Copyright Act Bill C-11 has just passed Senate and awaiting Royal Assent.

  • Neb12

    No Holllll, Background. W used to have dynamic ip adresses. Whitch means the ip changes every time you log on. Now we have static ip adresses which means the ip is assigned. Like your post box.  That way, if I am a snoop, I can use something like uTorrent to see your ip adress and allege you are a pirate. Then I go to whois and find out thier isp. Now I eme the isp and tell them that neb has been dl Tom and Jerry.
    Then I get a bitch in an eme account that the isp uses to overcome any kind of security I may have on my “Verizon” account…………

    • Hollll

      Ok thanks.
      I didn’t know every customers had static ip. Now it makes sense.

      Thanks for the clarification.

  • Neb12

    Dear Verizon Online Customer:

    We are writing to advise you that Verizon recently received a notification from
    a copyright owner of a possible copyright violation that appears to involve
    your Verizon Online account (the “Complaint”). The work(s) identified
    by the copyright owner in its Complaint are listed below.

    We are contacting you because our records indicate that the Internet protocol
    (IP) address provided to us by the copyright owner was assigned to your service
    on the date and time identified by the copyright owner. While this activity may
    have occurred without your permission or knowledge by an unauthorized user, or
    perhaps by a minor who may not fully understand the copyright laws, as the
    primary account holder, you are legally responsible for all activity
    originating from your account.

    Copyright work(s) identified in the Complaint:

    Copyright infringement level: 1
    Notice ID: 14-36578229
    Title: Snow White and the Huntsman
    Protocol: BitTorrent
    IP Address: 173.51.60.45
    DNS: pool-173-51-60-45.lsanca.fios.verizon.net
    File Name: Snow.White.and.the.Huntsman.2012.CAM.READNFO.XviD-26k
    File Size: 1480162841
    Timestamp: 06-14-2012 13:15:01 UTC

    Copyright infringement is a serious matter that violates U.S. copyright law and
    subjects infringers to criminal and civil liability. It also violates our
    Acceptable Use Policy (http://www2.verizon.net/policies/acceptable_use.asp)
    and Terms of Service (http://www2.verizon.net/policies/tos.asp).
    If you, or someone using your Internet connection, are engaged in the conduct
    alleged by the copyright owner, we urge you to stop (and ensure that anyone
    else who might have access to your Internet connection also stops).

    Protecting Your Privacy: The copyright owner has not asked Verizon to identify
    you, and Verizon will NOT provide your identity without a lawful subpoena or
    other lawful process. However, if the copyright owner does issue a lawful
    subpoena or other lawful process that seeks information about your identity or
    account, Verizon will be legally required to provide the requested information
    to the copyright owner.

    If you have questions regarding this notice or would like to view Frequently
    Asked Questions about copyrights and piracy please visit us at http://www.verizon.net/copyrightfaq.

    We appreciate your cooperation on this matter.

  • Neb12

    A that is the rest of the story…………………….

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  • Det427

    DSL Extreme: only 2 weeks just like Sonic.net!
    :)

  • Eike

    man, i thought germany is bad… but this article disabuses me… my ISP is allowed to log for a maximum of 7 days altohough its an unlimited plan (verdict by the oberlandesgericht frankfurt)… but there are some ISPs that delete IP logs at the moment you disconnect (usually this happens once a day)…

  • Dan_Neely

    Atlantic Broadband:  6 months.

    Scroll to “IP Address Information”
    http://www.atlanticbb.com/LE%20Supeona%20and%20Procedures.htm

  • Tmech81

    It doesn’t. Matter if you use a fake name or address that’s ridiculous your generating a signal from a continuesly fixed location they already know who you. Are. And your real I.D.

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  • Eh?

    I know this is Canadian, but any idea on telus?

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  • Ophelia Millais

    A copyright troll case in New York was just dismissed by the plaintiffs because 2 ISPs, Verizon and Optimum Online, didn’t have records anymore. The alleged offenses of those ISPs’ customers were dated Nov. 2011-Feb. 2012, and now it’s early July. This suggests that Verizon may actually only be keeping records for much less than the 18 months they stated…

    • Cmccubbin89

      its possible the person who responded confused IP logs with phone records, those are generally retained 18 months by most companies, even ones with short IP rendition policies. Its not like a cable company never had someone working for them that doesn’t really know what there doing.

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  • The Spork

    Insight Communications stores logs for 6months. (it is now owned by Time Warner as of May 2012)

    • anon

      you should contact time warner to be sure( they have email on the supoena page), Insight is still apparently operating under its own name so you don’t really know how much of insight is migrated into TW until the company is gone.

      I told Ernesto about this very thing and he says while it seems likely he will need some offical statement to put it on the list.

  • Chameleon87

    Arcor (now part of Vodafone Germany) doesn’t store IP addresses, as they’re “not relevant for billing” (their words) :)

    Here’s the email I got from them


    Sehr geehrter Herr ***,

    die IP-Adressen werden am Ende der jeweiligen Online-Session verworfen, da diese nicht relevant für die Abrechnung sind. Die Speicherung der sonstigen Verkehrsdaten richtet sich nach den Vorgaben des Telekommunikationsgesetztes. (§§ 96 – 99 TKG). Die Auskunft über Verkehrsdaten an Kunden ist in § 99 TKG geregelt und wird in Form eines Einzelverbindungsnachweises erteilt. 
    Sollten sie einen Einzelverbindungsnachweis wünschen, beantragen Sie diesen bitte im Online-Portal oder bei der Kundenbetreuung. 

    Mit freundlichen Grüßen”

    Which translates into :P


    Dear ***,

    IP addresses are discarded at the end of each online session, as these are not relevant for billing. The storage of other data traffic is governed by the provisions of the Telecommunications Act. (§§ 96 – 99 TKG). The information on traffic data to customers is regulated in § 99 TKG and in the form of an itemized bill is issued.
    If you want an itemized bill, please apply for it in the online portal or in customer service.

    Yours sincerely”

    everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg :3

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