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		<title>By: Chameleon87</title>
		<link>/how-long-does-your-isp-store-ip-address-logs-120629/#comment-949330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chameleon87]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2012 10:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arcor (now part of Vodafone Germany) doesn&#039;t store IP addresses, as they&#039;re &quot;not relevant for billing&quot; (their words) :)

Here&#039;s the email I got from them

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Sehr geehrter Herr ***,

die IP-Adressen werden am Ende der jeweiligen Online-Session verworfen, da diese nicht relevant für die Abrechnung sind. Die Speicherung der sonstigen Verkehrsdaten richtet sich nach den Vorgaben des Telekommunikationsgesetztes. (§§ 96 - 99 TKG). Die Auskunft über Verkehrsdaten an Kunden ist in § 99 TKG geregelt und wird in Form eines Einzelverbindungsnachweises erteilt. 
Sollten sie einen Einzelverbindungsnachweis wünschen, beantragen Sie diesen bitte im Online-Portal oder bei der Kundenbetreuung. 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen&quot;
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Which translates into :P

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Dear ***,

IP addresses are discarded at the end of each online session, as these are not relevant for billing. The storage of other data traffic is governed by the provisions of the Telecommunications Act. (§§ 96 - 99 TKG). The information on traffic data to customers is regulated in § 99 TKG and in the form of an itemized bill is issued.
If you want an itemized bill, please apply for it in the online portal or in customer service.

Yours sincerely&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arcor (now part of Vodafone Germany) doesn&#8217;t store IP addresses, as they&#8217;re &#8220;not relevant for billing&#8221; (their words) :)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the email I got from them</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Sehr geehrter Herr ***,</p>
<p>die IP-Adressen werden am Ende der jeweiligen Online-Session verworfen, da diese nicht relevant für die Abrechnung sind. Die Speicherung der sonstigen Verkehrsdaten richtet sich nach den Vorgaben des Telekommunikationsgesetztes. (§§ 96 &#8211; 99 TKG). Die Auskunft über Verkehrsdaten an Kunden ist in § 99 TKG geregelt und wird in Form eines Einzelverbindungsnachweises erteilt. <br />
Sollten sie einen Einzelverbindungsnachweis wünschen, beantragen Sie diesen bitte im Online-Portal oder bei der Kundenbetreuung. </p>
<p>Mit freundlichen Grüßen&#8221;<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>Which translates into :P</p>
<p>&#8212;<br />
Dear ***,</p>
<p>IP addresses are discarded at the end of each online session, as these are not relevant for billing. The storage of other data traffic is governed by the provisions of the Telecommunications Act. (§§ 96 &#8211; 99 TKG). The information on traffic data to customers is regulated in § 99 TKG and in the form of an itemized bill is issued.<br />
If you want an itemized bill, please apply for it in the online portal or in customer service.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely&#8221;<br />
&#8212;</p>
<p>everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg :3</p>
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		<title>By: Cmccubbin89</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[its possible the person who responded confused IP logs with phone records, those are generally retained 18 months by most companies, even ones with short IP rendition policies. Its not like a cable company never had someone working for them that doesn&#039;t really know what there doing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its possible the person who responded confused IP logs with phone records, those are generally retained 18 months by most companies, even ones with short IP rendition policies. Its not like a cable company never had someone working for them that doesn&#8217;t really know what there doing.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>/how-long-does-your-isp-store-ip-address-logs-120629/#comment-949184</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 20:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you should contact time warner to be sure( they have email on the supoena page), Insight is still apparently operating under its own name so you don&#039;t really know how much of insight is migrated into TW until the company is gone.

I told Ernesto about this very thing and he says while it seems likely he will need some offical statement to put it on the list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you should contact time warner to be sure( they have email on the supoena page), Insight is still apparently operating under its own name so you don&#8217;t really know how much of insight is migrated into TW until the company is gone.</p>
<p>I told Ernesto about this very thing and he says while it seems likely he will need some offical statement to put it on the list.</p>
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		<title>By: The Spork</title>
		<link>/how-long-does-your-isp-store-ip-address-logs-120629/#comment-948816</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Insight Communications stores logs for 6months. (it is now owned by Time Warner as of May 2012) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insight Communications stores logs for 6months. (it is now owned by Time Warner as of May 2012) </p>
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		<title>By: ?? ISP ???????? IP Logs - 2012 &#124; Tsung&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: RonaldoGEne</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laura... geek squad has no corporate policy of reporting users for piracy. you won&#039;t find many cases of them blackmailing or reporting. In fact they themselves were in trouble over piracy. One time for using SpinRite without permission.

Plus I would think they would put their efforts into trying to remove their pirated Geek Squad MRI from popular torrent websites.... also who the fuck is the LEA?

I do admit its retarded to use geek squad as they are undereducated and WAY overpriced, the average american is not too smart though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura&#8230; geek squad has no corporate policy of reporting users for piracy. you won&#8217;t find many cases of them blackmailing or reporting. In fact they themselves were in trouble over piracy. One time for using SpinRite without permission.</p>
<p>Plus I would think they would put their efforts into trying to remove their pirated Geek Squad MRI from popular torrent websites&#8230;. also who the fuck is the LEA?</p>
<p>I do admit its retarded to use geek squad as they are undereducated and WAY overpriced, the average american is not too smart though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ophelia Millais</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A copyright troll case in New York was just &lt;a href=&quot;http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2012/07/malibu-media-v-does-1-20-voluntarily.html &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dismissed&lt;/a&gt; by the plaintiffs because 2 ISPs, Verizon and Optimum Online, didn&#039;t have records anymore. The alleged offenses of those ISPs&#039; customers were dated Nov. 2011-Feb. 2012, and now it&#039;s early July. This suggests that Verizon may actually only be keeping records for much less than the 18 months they stated...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A copyright troll case in New York was just <a href="http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2012/07/malibu-media-v-does-1-20-voluntarily.html " rel="nofollow">dismissed</a> by the plaintiffs because 2 ISPs, Verizon and Optimum Online, didn&#8217;t have records anymore. The alleged offenses of those ISPs&#8217; customers were dated Nov. 2011-Feb. 2012, and now it&#8217;s early July. This suggests that Verizon may actually only be keeping records for much less than the 18 months they stated&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Lifehacker, I&#039;ve read that my ISP keeps logs of my activity and I&#039;m concerned that private data is being saved on their servers. How concerned should I be, and [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Eh?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 03:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know this is Canadian, but any idea on telus?]]></description>
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