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By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:55:29 +0000

I actually do read the reviews to make sure that a game is even worth downloading. And lately, I have been finding that a lot of games that seem all nice and pretty on the outside are actually shitty on the inside. I'm not finding this out from pirating the games but from the reviews. If I find a review for a game I might want to try, I download the game, try it out for a little while and eventually buy the game, usually from Steam because downloading a game is so much more convenient than buying a box. I know that I'm definitely not the only one who does this and I don't even have a bandwidth cap on my connection, which would be a major reason for people to do that.

By: spyware

spyware — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 07:41:53 +0000

By the looks of it it's a single-player game that "phones home" with a "free" version which is adware. And most_uniQue did an incomplete job of unprotecting it, the spyware functions remained. If you can't remove those functions, at least change them to "phone home" more often and faster! "After discovering the game had been cracked and made available for free download, they didn’t take the usual stance of setting the legal dogs on the culprits." Spyware is also illegal in some countries. Nice work enigmax at promoting adware and spyware!

By: santoscrew

santoscrew — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:47:24 +0000

i just posted a reply……. and i lied…. :-(

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AppStore-Trend? Kostenlos, dafür mit Werbung und Donations — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:46:50 +0000

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... ... ... ... ... — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:24:37 +0000

What's wrong is your abuse of ellipses.

By: How Piracy Can Boost iPhone App Sales « "Everything iPhone"

How Piracy Can Boost iPhone App Sales « "Everything iPhone" — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:35:46 +0000

[...] How Piracy Can Boost iPhone App Sales We recently reported the story of the pirated iPhone game ‘Whack em All’, where the developer actually engaged the game’s cracker instead of taking an aggressive stance. The dialogue had a surprising effect. Sales increased 100%, pirates donated and the game is now available free of charge. Whack ‘em All is a game for iPhone and iPod Touch, based on the ‘Whack-a-Mole’ idea. The creators are married couple Constance and James Bossert, who together form Fairlady Media. After discovering the game had been cracked and made available for free download, they didn’t take the usual stance of setting the legal dogs on the culprits…full story. [...]

By: imudius

imudius — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:30:18 +0000

this is so dumb pirating apps is WRONG! people spend a lot of time and money making apps and you try to steal them thats what your doing… its not the app store either… if the developers wanted to give you a free demo they can…. or full featured add supported app too… there are many lite and beta apps for free, apple has nothing to do with the price… but they don't charger developers for free apps… and developers can charge what they want for the apps so the prices aren't apples fault… besides the apps are cheaper then what there worth… compared to other platforms…. drm is pretty loose on apps… you just cant copy them… but apps are better then any other games for any platform…. you can have 1 game on multipule iphones and itouches all at the same time… lose your phone just re sync to your computer…. you guys are try to make stealing sound like a good thing this is wrong……

By: How Piracy Can Boost iPhone App Sales « Internet Making Money

How Piracy Can Boost iPhone App Sales « Internet Making Money — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:16:55 +0000

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By: Apper

Apper — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:10:52 +0000

Ghost, you must be pretty young, since you don't remember a few years back with the older handhelds with no wifi, such as all the gameboy's up to the advance. People had no trials but they bought games. Back in the day of original gameboy very few people used the internet and there were no review sites, so what did people do then?

They bought the game based off of the box. Now with the advent of the internet there are these things called 'review sites' which review almost every game that is worth anything. But I guess you pirates don't like to read and think about things before you do them.

In the case of this game, how many times did the pirated copy get downloaded? At least a few hundred, maybe even a few thousand. Seeing an increase of 10 sales on a 99 cent game is negligible, the app store fluctuates like that on a daily basis. If 1000 people pirated the game then 10 people bought it that is a 1% conversion ratio, which is quite crap for shareware. But the reality is probably more than 1000 people pirated it and under 10 of those people actually bought the game because of the pirated version.

Also, are the crackers going to take down the pirated version with no ads? Of course not, because they are full of shit.

By: JOhn East

JOhn East — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:47:55 +0000

I hijacked my IPhone…….now it dont work no more…. :-(

By: man

man — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:45:13 +0000

I wish I had a iphone, i would buy that game right now.

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makin257 - How Piracy Can Boost iPhone App Sales — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:28:36 +0000

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By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:33:42 +0000

Wow, you come across as really intelligent. Really, you've just nailed it with your poorly thought out ideas and catch-phrases such as "monopoly" and your references to trademarks that exist in your own imagination.

By: noneofyourbusiness

noneofyourbusiness — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:15:59 +0000

the iphone sucks, like everything apple (infrigment of the tm of the beatles btw) does, apple exists only to make m$ monopoly legal, although going to intel with zero excuse leads to intel monopoly…

By: ctrlaltdelete

ctrlaltdelete — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:28:07 +0000

apple is innovating by providing a platform.

By: Nokio

Nokio — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:55:34 +0000

well. i think this is a good thing. it shows how things should be done. the developers responded in the right way and did the right thing in the end. hopefully some of the major developers and entertainment industries can learn from this…

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:46:01 +0000

This article is so poorly put together and lays out such ridiculopus assumptions that I'm surprised even considering TF usual one-sided bias.

"Before Whack ‘em All was reported pirated, the game was getting around 10 sales each day. Now, with all the extra publicity, sales are up to 20 a day, a nice 100% increase."

Considering the application has been available for 1 whole month the reasons for that increase could be due to many things – the point is to attribute it to publicity has no reasonable basis. I'm certain I could find many other applications that have had similar increases without any piracy related publicity whatsoever. Considering the absolutley tiny numbers being dealt with here – from 10 to 20 per day – it's also stupid to think that meaningful conclusions can be drawn here from stats.

The title "How Piracy Can Boost iPhone Sales" is also misleading. If sales indeed increased it was not piracy that boosted sales here: it was publicity or simply the fact that people knew about the product. If the application is going to be read about on here by 500,000+ readers and then the article propagated through though Digg & SU then people know about it.

If piracy helps sales then please show another example where an IPhone application has been pirated and sales increased because of it – without the associated publicity.

By:

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 06:05:02 +0000

The game itself may be good or bad, depending on people's opinions, but at least the creators did the right thing, and that's what's most important.

By:

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:55:39 +0000

Daniel donated because they are pioneers, and because they have been good people. Daniel is not an idiot.

By: really now

really now — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:13:42 +0000

got yourself a nifty iPhone and you wanna play whack a mole… not sure what's worse, the lame game or the lamer who'd play it?

By: blart

blart — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 05:07:06 +0000

just pay the dollar help them out

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:57:56 +0000

Your an idiot! Can you donate money to me as well?

By: NubCakes

NubCakes — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:52:36 +0000

Are you really so deeply entrenched into your "Apple Fandom" that you think Apple is innovating by wrapping mp3 players and mobile phones in shiny packaging and advertising to the hipster set?

By: Bill G.

Bill G. — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:38:10 +0000

are you stupid?

Apple provides incredible amounts of innovative technology. Why down with Apple? Are you really so deep;y entrenched into your "PC Fandom" that you think Apple is the root of all evil?

By:

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:35:28 +0000

They'll lose that power in, like, what, 50 years? We'll be very old or dead by then.

By: Four20

Four20 — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:58:25 +0000

That's right! I am Four20 and all the data in the games, all of it, it is mine! Even if it is on your computer, and not on my computer, it is mine! I have all the rights to it, even if it is not on my computer! I have the right to impose what other people do with their own computers! And remember: none of it is yours! You have NO RIGHTS to it whatsoever even if you have bought it! Because I own the "rights" to it, I have the right to impose on other people what they can and can't do with their own copies because it isn't actually theirs, it is actually mine! Don't think about doing anything with it that I don't approve of, because if you do, the police will get ya! I have the total and complete right to impose my ideas of what is acceptable to do with the product. It doesn't matter what other people think is good for it, even if it is a better idea, because it is mine and mine only, and I decide what is to be done with it. Because it is mine and mine only and everyone else can just screw off.

By: chronoss

chronoss — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:55:53 +0000

well rose your right but also take diablo 2
i pirated it YES and guess what i liked it so much i went out and bought the boxset
with the expansion disk etc.
NOW i wasnt rich at that time so im very picky now you have to be very good and have some i can try caus ei cant afford to spend on everything hoping its a good game.

By: chronoss

chronoss — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:54:10 +0000

oh and yah why should i be expected to pay for your product then and why should i buy your product …just cause you say things …oh we trust you

SONY ROOT KIT COMES TO MIND

By: chronoss

chronoss — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:52:38 +0000

Actually if you wante dto break into the market of both pepsi and coke you might be giving away free samples ot get people liking your drink, ive seen beer companies do it at bars, ive seen other products do that….its called marketing.
You give some samples away and let some measure of word of mouth to build a market.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:49:54 +0000

Just donated $7 and don't even own an iPhone. Love them guys! Pioneers and good people should be rewarded, I hope their donations explode! Who's with me??

By: Doug

Doug — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:44:39 +0000

I am Doug, and I think that the DRM and TOS are awesome and that to break either of them is a very serious crime – everyone who does so ought to go to prison for life or executed!

By: chronoss

chronoss — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:44:20 +0000

its easy if you use a app commercially , pay for it , if you dont and what you did is a hobby for fun or play then free.

Take graphics design or auto cad , sure you can get a pirated copy of autocad but if they stamp the serial on your work and its pirated then whose stupid, this allows you to get familiar with the software so that if you do work you can then buy and use it properly, if you cant afford it work for someone else and save till you can afford or get invest ment into your own company to use autocad.

that's the only manner proprietary works.
Then there is open source……

By: Flandre Scarlet

Flandre Scarlet — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:23:01 +0000

Once again, proving that MAFIAA advocates have no brains. Why don't you just kill yourself now? Humanity would be better off without you. Fuck off and die.

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:19:50 +0000

Dont think apple are fools
It is exactly foolish when they create a TOS like that.

Also, no TOS dictates property rights. Here is a question for you: do you think that Apple "owns" the data on other people's computers, and thus has the "right" to dictate what other people do with this data?

By:

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:11:34 +0000

I hold the opinion that you would be more valuable dead rather than alive. Go jump off a cliff, why don't you?

By: Doug

Doug — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:05:09 +0000

You know these apps are DRM'd and I would assume(I haven't checked), that in the TOS that you agree to when you create your account(like the one they just updated recently) that says you cant' 'share' this product, or this product is only able to be used on the device registered to this account. Dont think apple are fools

By: Roze

Roze — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:58:31 +0000

But one does have a right to share one's own things with others. And that portion of "pirates" would not have bought that game anyways.

By: Four20

Four20 — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:54:25 +0000

Maybe you're right that 'humans have a need to trial before they buy'. . .but that's just now how commerce works. Just because you have a need doesn't mean you have the /right/ take what isn't yours. You don't get to open a 2 liter of pepsi, or gallon of milk or apple, etc, etc, etc.

And you know damn well 99.9% of the pirates out there pirate and have no intention of buying it. Whether they liked the game or not.

By: cawlin

cawlin — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:42:30 +0000

I would say it was more the publicity from blogs that upped the sales of this app. However the publicity only helped because the developer took the correct steps in approaching a problem. Not enough credit is being given to a the developer for genuine understanding and present minded business skills.

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By: Ernie Oporto

Ernie Oporto — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:48:10 +0000

Any word on whether those donations will keep rolling in so that he can eat?

By: Larry Rhodes

Larry Rhodes — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 00:31:39 +0000

We wrote on Apple's removal of the serial code requirement from iWork '09, indirectly promoting piracy as an exceptional marketing move. There is some strength behind a bit more open distribution model of software, and it would be wise for companies to pay attention to stories like this. Great article!

By: JOhn West

JOhn West — Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:10:30 +0000

I hijacked my IPhone and I just LOVE it!

RT
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